Carruthers is a defender of Leonard Jeffries, professor in the department of black studies at City College in Harlem, infamous for his black supremacist and anti-Semitic views. Jeffries sees whites as oppressive and violent “ice people,” in contrast to peaceful and mutually supportive black “sun people.” The divergence says Jeffries, is attributable to differing levels of melanin in the skin. Jeffries also blames Jews for financing the slave trade. Carruthers defends Jeffries and excoriates the prestigious black academics Carruthers views as traitorous for denouncing their African brother, Jeffries. Carruthers’s vision of the superior and peaceful Kemetic philosophy of Ptahhotep triumphing over Greco-Euro-American-white culture obviously parallels Jeffries’ opposition between ice people and sun people.

According to Chicago Annenberg Challenge records, Carruthers’s training session on African-centered curricula for SSAVC teachers was a huge hit: “As a consciousness raising session, it received rave reviews, and has prepared the way for the curriculum readiness survey….” These teacher-training workshops were directly funded by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Another sure sign of the ideological cast of SSAVC’s curriculum can be found in Annenberg documents noting that SSAVC students are taught the wisdom of Ptahhotep. Carruthers’s concerns about “menticide” and “genocide” at the hand of America’s white supremacist system seem to be echoed in an SSAVC document that says: “Our children need to understand the historical context of our struggles for liberation from those forces that seek to destroy us.”

heliotrope,

I am familiar with the situation with the “Iquitos Jews” (they are, in fact, ethnic Sephardi Jews who came from Morocco AFAIK). And though there has been, and continue to be tensions between the Ashkenazim and other Jews, I know that the Israeli government has reached out to these Sephardi Jews and many have made Aaliyah. I never denied that there were problems with the Ashkenazi Jews (mainly stemming from the fact that Ashkenazi Jews were white and were thus able to prosper in America after they fled Germany and Poland in the late 30s and early 40s while Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews were not white and therefore unable to prosper in Jim Crow-era America). Also, the Ashkenazi Jews were the subjects of the Holocaust and so that created a (silly) feeling of singular entitlement to the state of Israel.

“Race” is not an Ashkenazi concept. What on Earth are you talking about. The government of Ireland, for example, recognises that there is an Irish race. The Russian government invaded Georgia last year to protect ethnic Russians. I don’t understand your problem with the concept of a race of people, or your idea that “race” is something only racists and Nazis are interested in

The 2800 or so Ashkenazi Jewish collective in Lima, Peru have nothing to do with the Iquitos Jews because they don’t meet the rules of Jewish law (halakha.) The Iquitos Jews were Jewish men who came to Iquitos in the late 1800′s from Morocco and intermarried with local intermixed and native Indian women. Jewish Law (halakha) rules that being authentically Jewish requires the lineage to pass through the mother. Hence, the Iquitos Jews are not Jews in the eyes of the Ashkenazi.

You may contact Israel to find out if the Iquitos Jews are automatically qualified for citizenship. I, for one, have no idea. I do know that the tension between the Ashkenazi Jews and other Jews present at the creation of Israel was enormous. It continues to this day. Perhaps “race” is a particular Ashkenazi concept. I will have to research that a bit.

I suggest you bring yourself up to speed on the whole concept of race. Because some still prefer to use outmoded and discarded concepts which once defined race does not make it valid for use today.

As to my background, it is of little importance. Logic, rhetoric and ethics are not changed a whit if being employed by either a prince or a pauper. Nor is anyone’s argument supplemented in any way by misery, strife, kind fortune, luck or good looks. Unless, of course, you view the world through affirmative action lenses.

That would be because you support the Nazi tactics of silencing your opponents like Goebbels and declaring those who disagree with you insane in a perversion of medicine and science.

What makes the latter particularly hilarious is your hypocritical blabbering about Jindal putting ideology ahead of science. No legitimate medical agency says that those who disagree with you politically are insane, but you and your Barack Obama do. You are a blind ideologist who has no idea of science and who is willing to pervert science to support your twisted social theories, just like the Nazis.

And then, here’s the hilarious rejoinder from the blackmailing thug.

There’s a reason Hispanics, blacks, gays and Asian-Americans don’t vote for your party. Just think about that.

Mainly because bigot liberals like yourself call those members of a minority who dare deviate from Party norms hateful names like “Uncle Toms”, “Sambos”, “house slaves”, “mashed-up bags of meat with lipstick”, and “oreos”, and then set out to destroy them. It is the height of hilarity to watch gay liberals like yourself who get all tied up in knots about Nazi terminology scream “kapo” at gays who dare to vote Republican.

You are a bigot and a worthless thug, DavyJG, just like your Nazi forbears. And unfortunately for you, people are starting to realize the racism and hate that lies at the core of your Obama Party and of liberalism as a whole. You whine and scream about religion, but you support and endorse antireligious bigotry. You claim others are “racist” even as you call black conservatives “Sambos”. You babble about how hurt you are by Holocaust references even as you call others “Jewish Nazis”.

Also, I don’t need to spend time with a Rabbi to know who my people are. Why are so intent on telling me, an actual Jew, how to be Jewish? I’m very proud of who I am; I don’t need Judaism for that, thank you very much. What’s your background, heliotrope?

The fact that heliotrope continues to lecture me and question me on the the collectivity I feel with other Jews, suggesting it is ill-informed or Nazi-like is just obscenely insensitive.

“Collectivity” is a long way from where you started when you clearly used the word “race.”

I know of two “tribes” who wander the world dragging their identity conflicts with them: Jews and Gypsies. (To my knowledge, there is no Gypsy religion or fundamental body of religious works.)

Many people gather together in ethnic enclaves. But the Jew is bound up in the ancient tribes of Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph (subdivided into the tribes of Manasseh and Ephriam) and Benjamin.

Jews are tied by lineage, their diaspora and the histories of the tribes that spring from the Torah, the Old Testament and Talmud and Midrash.

The agnostic or atheist Jew has the complex problem of divorcing himself from religion while still cleaving to what is undeniably an ancient religious culture that defines the tribes and the lineage and, to the extent that it exists, the Jewish culture and personality.

Most anti-semites just hate Jews. Religion has nothing much to do with it. Therefore, DavyJG, if you were to suddenly decide to accept Radical Islam and its beliefs, would you still be a Jew?

My ” obscenely insensitive” lecturing and questioning is pretty fundamental to your self identification. And I do find it passing strange that you use Hitler’s language of “race.” I would think that for all your sensitivity and the horrors in your family history that you would assiduously avoid using the anti-semites tricks of logic.

Good luck to you. Perhaps a little time with a Rabbi would help you discover who your people are. And may I suggest that if my grilling has been hard on your fragile psyche that it is because you have been badly mistreated by overexposure to cotton candy and cuddly kitten education.

Jindal signed a bill passed by the legislature. In your case, that makes him a moron. In my case, it makes him controversial and the people of Louisiana will have to decide what they think of the whole matter.

I am a conservative. I want to see the issues, examine the facts and draw my own conclusions.

What makes Jindal’s education bill so sinister is that he is obviously not doing it to strengthen scientific discourse but to appease religious types. Do you deny this?

I don’t care if you choose to believe that 6000 years ago, some deity created this 4.5 billion year old planet. I don’t care if you believe that the Flinstone’s is historically accurate or that Noah’s Ark just hasn’t been found yet. I don’t even care if you think that the billions of failed galaxies and imploding stars and the fact that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed on Earth are now extinct are in fact evidence of some kind of “intelligent design”. But I do start caring when a person with executive power attempts to undermine actual science because of religious convictions which are based on absolutely nothing (nothing at all!).

Just because we don’t have all the answers for the various intricacies and nuances of evolution DOES NOT mean it’s an even playing field where even zany ideas about supernatural “designers” ought to be considered. It means we don’t have all of the answers but we have a great deal more any other theory. Bobby Jindal is a bad politician for undermining science in the interests of his own religious zealotry.

The Discovery Institute in Seattle is an “Intelligent Design” think tank. It sent out this “press release” concerning the Louisian Science Education Act. (I have not been successful in locating a rebuttal from the “Evolution is Settled Science So Get With the Program” acolytes.)

Governor Bobby Jindal Signs Historic Science Education Act On Evolution and Education

Baton Rouge – Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal signed into law the Louisiana Science Education Act, ensuring the state’s teachers their right to teach the scientific evidence both for and against Darwinian evolution.

“The bill is a bold statement protecting the freedom of teachers to discuss both the scientific evidence for and against Darwinian evolution and other controversial scientific theories,” said Casey Luskin, an attorney and program officer for public policy and legal affairs at Discovery Institute. “The bill does exactly what it says, which is to allow teachers and school districts to ‘use supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner.’”

Here are some key facts about the new law.

Teachers are still required to teach according to state and local science standards. But under the law, a school district could permit a teacher to present additional scientific evidence, analysis, and critiques regarding topics already in the approved curriculum.

Teachers are still required to follow the standard curriculum, and school districts would still need to authorize what teachers are doing in order for the law to come into operation. Moreover, any teaching or supplemental instructional materials would have to be consistent with the prohibition of the promotion of religion in Section 1D of the bill. Finally, any inappropriate instructional materials could be disallowed under the bill by the State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education.

Upon the request of a local school board, the State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education will be required to “allow and assist teachers, principals, and other school administrators to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.” Assistance from the State Board in this area now will “include support and guidance for teachers regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review scientific theories being studied.”

Teachers will be permitted to “use supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner.” But teachers using supplemental resources must first “teach the material presented in the standard textbook supplied by the school system,” and the State Board of Education reserves the right to veto any inappropriate supplemental materials.

The law is needed for two reasons. First, around the country, science teachers are being harassed, intimidated, and sometimes fired for trying to present scientific evidence critical of Darwinian theory along with the evidence that supports it. Second, many school administrators and teachers are fearful or confused about what is legally allowed when teaching about controversial scientific issues like evolution. The Louisiana Science Education Act clarifies what teachers may be allowed to do.

The law will not allow for inclusion of religion. Section 1D of the law clearly states that the law “shall not be construed to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion.”

I repeat: I have not been successful in locating a rebuttal from the “Evolution is Settled Science So Get With the Program” acolytes.

But it has always been curious to me why some scientists get so annoyed with people who don’t fall in line with the conclusions they derive from their theories. Isn’t it important to show the strengths and weaknesses of theories? Darwin himself assumed that massive fossil evidence would flesh out his theory of evolution. To some extent it has, but so far, there has been no discovery of that layer of fossils that map the “origin of the species.” It is not for the want of trying.

I was taught that Pluto is a planet and that oil was the product of dinosaurs all getting squished together. Both were theories presented as scientific fact. Neither is currently considered scientific fact.

Evolution covers a lot of territory. But biological evolution is where the action is and the science for it is shot through with theories and explanations and scant evidence. It is compelling and I am inclined to subscribe to many aspects of it. But like the man made global warming crowd, the evolution fan club is far too much like the eugenics crowd for my tastes.

I am not sure that the Louisiana Bill that Jindal signed into law is proof positive that he is a moron and anti-science. Perhaps DavyJG or some other Charles Johnson type might be able to turn down the blow torch and have a sensible debate on the topic.

In any case, I hope GayPatriot is happy with his disgusting commenters. Just a few posts after I reveal I’m descended from German Jews, I’m called “Goebbels” and accused of Nazi talk for the third or fourth time in this thread, this time by North Dallas Thirty. I’m quite seriously shocked. The fact that heliotrope continues to lecture me and question me on the the collectivity I feel with other Jews, suggesting it is ill-informed or Nazi-like is just obscenely insensitive. This is, of course, what I have to expect from the Republicans of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, however.

I am not hiding behind my heritage at all. By all means, continue as you are referring to me as some kind of Nazi (and it doesn’t look like you most of you need my invitation to continue with that) even though you know I’m a Jew – that’s your entitlement, but to suggest that my expressing disgust at the sheer grotesqueness of using that kind of language when referring to an actual Jew who’s actual relatives were gassed to death in Poland is hardly “hiding” behind anything.

Anyway, at least I now know that even the gay Republicans are just as hateful as the rest of the collective that makes up the modern GOP. Good luck with that in 20 years when racial minorities (oops, using such a term makes me Adolf Hitler, right?) are the majority in this country. There’s a reason Hispanics, blacks, gays and Asian-Americans don’t vote for your party. Just think about that.

And then he goes right on lying.

I’m really not being “paranoid” when I say there are Evangelicals out there who would put homosexuals to death and install theocracy in this nation.

No, you’re frothing moonbatshitcrazy and a despicable hate-filled SOB who gets off on defending his hatred and hiding behind his family’s heritage and religion when it suits him.

How is anyone supposed to have a decent conversation with that kind of talk?

Indeed. How does one have a conversation with a POS who finds nothing wrong with tossing out inconvenient children?

But Republicans never were good at being decent and respectful.

Yeah. Remember all those McCain supporters who demanded Jews get in the ovens a few months ago? And how about all those Republicans who mocked Lieberman a few years ago. And who could forget all those Republicans bowing and scraping to make sure the UN loves us when they blame Israel for all the world’s ills?

Also, heliotrope, I’m pretty sure accusing a Jew whose grandparents fled the Holocaust and whose grandaunts and uncles actually died in gas chambers at Stutthof of wilfully using “Hitler’s language” is entirely appropriate.

I expect you mean that it is inappropriate.

But, DavyJG, you are the one who insists:

6 million Jews were murdered in the holocaust because of their race, not their religion.

In all this back and forth, you worm around the whole Jewish race nomenclature.

Now you try to shame me with the horror of your predecessors. Whether you realize it or not, your insistence on the Jew as a race or ethnic group separated from religion is the old anti-semitic game:

The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Perhaps you have an inner struggle with the concept of a Jew without religion.

the fragile minds of the incredibly (and it really is beyond belief) stupidity of the modern GOP…

Every now and then I need to remind myself that there exists in our society a community of people so desperate for relevance that they literally cannot stomach the existence of dissent. Awash in their delusions of sanctimony and moral superiority, to disagree with them renders one stupid.

You cannot reason with such people, as that is the first thing to be cast aside in the modern liberal utopia; without reason, independent thought seems to be happily sacrificed for the “good of the many.”

Isn’t it amusing to hear a pseudo-Jew spew his Goebbels talk about the danger that those who disagree with him present to “fragile minds”?

You are clearly part of the insane populist right who is freaking out because there isn’t an inane Republican president in office who will placate you any more with rhetoric and mere platitudes.

Another typical maneuver of the Nazis; declare your political opponents and those who disagree with you “insane”.

Are you a psychologist? If so, you will be reported to your board for diagnosing and trying to use your professional position to smear a person who you have never met, which usually results in suspension of your medical license. If you aren’t, than you are making a medical judgment without qualification — not atypical for an Obama Party liberal, but only a demonstration of how even science and medicine are subverted to the ideology of Obama worship.

It certainly is, given how you support and endorse its use in your Obama Party.

When you decide to condemn these supporters of Barack Obama and Barack Obama’s spiritual mentor and father figure who rant about Jew conspiracies, then you might actually demonstrate that you really care about hateful language. But until then, just as with your gay identity, you’re nothing more than a hypocrite who is attacking Republicans and conservatives for behavior he fully supports and endorses in his Obama Party.

Okay, so there’s “good abortion” and “bad abortion,” DavyJG? If that’s true then why did all of the pro-abortion and women’s rights organizations oppose the ban on partial birth abortion when it was before the Supreme Court and subsequently condemn the decision upholding the law as constitutional? And what do you mean by “graphic”? Would that be yet another leftist euphemism for “gruesome”? “Grotesque”? And why does it matter that it’s “graphic”? Afterall, as I understand the position of the pro-abortion lobby, it’s just a bunch of cells and organic medical waste. What’s the big deal?

“What makes YOU think that you can coerce a woman into going through with a pregnancy against her will? The very thought is disgusting.”

“Disgusting”? Really, DavyJG? How disgusting? As disgusting as the contents of a dumpster behind Planned Parenthood being written off in favor of women having the freedom to fu*k whomever they want, whenever they want without inconvenience? Oh, that’s right. You’re not “religious,” so why on Earth would you trouble yourself thinking about such things?