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Major Shift in Political Winds in USA

Why would this be happening?  Ya think maybe the Era of “hopeandchange” is wearing thin?

GALLUP.com:  Conservatives continue to outnumber moderates and liberals in the American populace in 2009, confirming a finding that Gallup first noted in June. Forty percent of Americans describe their political views as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 20% as liberal. This marks a shift from 2005 through 2008, when moderates were tied with conservatives as the most prevalent group.

And how’s that healthcare reform persuasion goin’ for ya, Mr. President?

In a recent Rasmussen tracking poll, opposition to health care reform as proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats had risen to 54 percent. Support dropped to 42 percent.

The bill recently endorsed by the Senate Finance Committee was hailed by some as more reasonable than the House versions, yet all these bills share provisions that will dramatically raise costs.

There is a growing disconnect between the Washington Elite Class and the Outside The Beltway Normals.   It makes me wonder where we are with our “low grade civil war” these days?

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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  1. How many Obamacons hung their hat on the issue of deficits? If the question is restricted to practical matters as opposed to (ugh) making history, nearly all of them. Obama stated ad nauseum that he would not add one thin dime to the deficit with any of this program we observe. Even after the election he declared that he would not sign any healthcare bill that increased the deficit AT ALL. AT ALL! We see what this means in reality as the costs of the bill are stripped out of the bill we shall call the healthcare bill, and added into a separate bill that will be considered and passed in as close to secrecy as can be managed. On more than one occassion and more than one issue, Obama was explicitly conservative… during the campaign. The Lefty cultural issues were soft-pedaled, Barry is of course publicly against gay marriage although no one believed it then or now. His horrifying abortion record was treated as a state-secret by the Obies and the press, but also by the McCainiacs for whatever neurotic reasons of their own. We can be certain much of Barry’s conservative support would have evaporated otherwise. The recurring story is of the unavoidable abrasion that fantasy must suffer in the company of reality. Barry and other Dems are actually allying themselves rhetorically with Ronald Reagan on occassion. He remains nearly the only political entity whose estimation rises in the polls over the decades and so is an irresistable target for scavengers but merely saying “Reagan” in an approving tone does not a tax-cutter or reformer make. Reality Therapy reveals this.

    Comment by megapotamus — October 26, 2009 @ 1:07 pm - October 26, 2009

  2. Considering what a fiasco the H1N1 and season flue vaccine immunization programs have been so far, is it any wonder that more and more independents, moderate and “right-minded” conservatives are suspicious or disenchanted with MORE governmental interference in the admittedly-busted health care system?

    Fortunately here in NJ we haven’t had any major breakouts (so far) since there’s no vaccines of either type available for at-least another month or maybe two….

    Comment by ted B. — October 26, 2009 @ 2:15 pm - October 26, 2009

  3. I’d like to interject national security into this thread if I can.
    Today we lost another 14 servicemen in Afghanistan. While the President is off golfing and dithering on whether to send re enforcements to the Afghan war our men and women are dying. This is life and death stuff people. We are asking the community organizer to get trained up on natl security and the middle east in particular. Shame on those who put this inexperienced naive man in this position. Pray for the families of those that serve and die for our country.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 2:33 pm - October 26, 2009

  4. http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/obama_ties_bush_on_golf.html#

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BITQ3G0&show_article=1

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 2:35 pm - October 26, 2009

  5. opposition to health care reform as proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats had risen to 54 percent. Support dropped to 42 percent.

    Who the heck knows what Obama or the Congressional Democrats have proposed?

    All we know is that they promise us that they will give us superior quality health care for every American and illegal alien at no cost to us or increase to the deficit.

    At least 54% of us are insulted that professional government weasels think we are drooling, stumbling, falling down idiots who will lap up their blatant lies and ask eagerly for more government help in running our lives.

    Comment by heliotrope — October 26, 2009 @ 6:06 pm - October 26, 2009

  6. Can “moderate” (read: fiscally left-wing) Republicans win elections and inspire our nation to its former greatness? Over at Powerline, former Bush speechwriter Matt Latimer says no.

    A small teaser. Speaking of Rove and his operatives, Latimer says:

    So now we are supposed to GAG RUSH, BECK, SAVAGE AND LAURA AND hide THEM in a corner somewhere while the “pragmatists” guide us to victory. Maybe it’s just me, but I think I’ll pass on taking advice from the group that guided President Bush to a 22 percent approval rating and aided the rise of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama.

    RTWT.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — October 26, 2009 @ 6:26 pm - October 26, 2009

  7. (Small correction. I’m not certain Rove himself has called for Rush, Beck etc. to be gagged. I should have written above, “Speaking of some former Rove operatives and other ‘moderates’, Latimer said…”)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — October 26, 2009 @ 6:28 pm - October 26, 2009

  8. So twice as many Americans identify as conservatives as liberals. No shock there. Think the MSM could throw that in Obamas face everytime he sits down for softball questions? Obamateleprompter has had 9 months to turn the majority of Americans against the Democrat left. We should be very thankful. It’ s something the atrophied Republican leadership couldn’t do. The people owe a great deal to the voices of Beck Limbaugh Ingramm Humme Washington and S Adams.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 8:01 pm - October 26, 2009

  9. The Conservative-Moderate-Liberal breakdown has been 40-40-20 for a very long time. The numbers flitter around a little, as much from sample error as anything else, but the trend is dead consistent. Liberals are, and always have been, in this and every society, the leading edge of progress. We may win majority support sometimes, but we are never, by outselves, the majority.

    The Rasmussen poll is, as ever, more Republican fairy tales.
    CNN//ORC poll has Obamacare at 49-49, with public option supported 61-38.
    ABC has OBamacare at 45-48, with a public option supported 57-40.
    USAToday/Gallup has the public option supported at 50-46.

    Note – the Obamacare disapproval numbers include some number of lefties who do not support it because it fails to go nearly as far as they want.

    “There is a growing disconnect between the Washington Elite Class and the Outside The Beltway Normals.’

    Gallup tracking today has Obama support at 53%. That is EXACTLY the percentage he recieved in the election one year ago. Chew on that for a while. Obama is as popular, and has as much political support today as he did on Election day.
    The disconnect is between you rabid Obama trashers and the real world out here.

    Comment by Tano — October 26, 2009 @ 10:02 pm - October 26, 2009

  10. Holy cow Tardo, you really need mental help if you believe your own propaganda.

    The most accurate pollster, according to a Fordham University study, has Obama’s approval at 47%, and 52% disapproval. I suspect his disapproval numbers are even higher, but people are afraid to say so because they know if they criticize Obama, liberals will scream that they are racists.

    Americans now prefer Republicans on EVERY ONE of the top 10 issues facing the country, and prefer Republicans on the generic ballot by 7 points. It wasnt even that high in 1994 when Republicans took control of both houses of congress.

    And just as happened the last time Democrats controlled congress and the WHite House, AMERICA HATES IT, and cannot WAIT to vote you out of office.

    Face it. America loathes “progressives” and “progressivism”.

    Comment by American Elephant — October 26, 2009 @ 10:27 pm - October 26, 2009

  11. What does it mean if the Democrat in VA gets routed next week and the corrupt Democrat in dark blue NJ wins with 34% of the vote. Guess it’s all good news for the Democrats. The MSM will spin it to mean Obama and Pelosi crap gold nuggets.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 10:40 pm - October 26, 2009

  12. Could we get Obama to meet with and apoligize to the families of the 14 new soldiers slaughtered in Afghanistan today? More die as Obama dithers in sending in re inforcements. Criminal.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 10:42 pm - October 26, 2009

  13. For the liberal toadies, to repeat…..the most accurate pollster in 2004 and 2008 was Rasmussen.
    Independent Fox News quotes Rasmussen frequently. The state run media who are in the tank for the Obamaphiles use tainted and squewed polling using heavily weighted Democrat samples that have been discredited by serious thinking non Obamaphiles.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 26, 2009 @ 10:48 pm - October 26, 2009

  14. More “fake, but accurate” reporting from Tardo.

    Nice.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 27, 2009 @ 2:42 am - October 27, 2009

  15. Actually, the ideological polling result just highlights how badly the Republicans are doing as the official opposition. Obama’s position is going to remain much stronger than critics give him credit for while Republicans continue to not understand where their past successes have come from.

    Comment by Lorenzo from Oz — October 27, 2009 @ 3:25 am - October 27, 2009

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  17. Gallup tracking today has Obama support at 53%. That is EXACTLY the percentage he recieved in the election one year ago. Chew on that for a while. Obama is as popular, and has as much political support today as he did on Election day.

    Maybe he will not get the ACORN delivered wino, homeless, comatose, dead, senile, illegal alien, fantasy votes next time.

    It is also possible that the voters will not feel so motivated to vote against George Bush in 2012. They might wonder how such a stoooopid frat boy could have screwed things up so badly that even the genius of the Messiah has been brought to constant whining and complaining.

    Liberals are, and always have been, in this and every society, the leading edge of progress.

    Why do liberals think that bankrupting the society is progress?

    Freddie/Fannie+ACORN houses for people who can’t make the payments is bankrupt.

    Social Security is rapidly approaching bankruptcy.

    Medicare is bankrupt.

    Medicaid is bankrupt.

    The “war on poverty” is bankrupt and the poor among us is growing.

    Unions killed GM and Chrysler and even the unions don’t want to own them. They know they can’t maintain their own saprophytic contracts.

    The Obamessiah has turned to printing money for short turn gain and a long term economic banana republic joke economy.

    “Progress” is made of sterner stuff. Liberals are the leading edge of radical change. Radical change is the ideology of the cancer cell.

    Tano: I would be fascinated to know where you think the end game of being liberal leads. If your definition of progress is your motivation, at what point is your Elysian Fields reached and how will it all look?

    Before you try to brickbat me with conservatism being all status quo and stodgy, may I remind you that a robust free market economy has created more progress than all the other forces combined. Liberals hate the free market. They see it as something that must be controlled, managed and directed. (Listen to anything Barney Frank has to say. Look at all the czars with extra-Constitutional muscle.)

    Comment by heliotrope — October 27, 2009 @ 11:12 am - October 27, 2009

  18. Liberals are, and always have been, in this and every society, the leading edge of progress.

    OH MY GOD. Really, Tano? Really?

    I nearly choked on my tongue over that line of bullcrap.

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — October 27, 2009 @ 12:57 pm - October 27, 2009

  19. Tano -

    You mean like eugenics, euthanasia, communism pogroms? Things like that?

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — October 27, 2009 @ 12:58 pm - October 27, 2009

  20. If you define “progress” as suppression of business, capitalism, and entrepreneurship, subversion of thought, and enforcement of a rigid conformist ideology that subordinates the individual to the state, then Tano is right; he and his “progressives” have led the way.

    What we should remember, though, is that silly Tano doesn’t expect to ever have to live under anything that he implements. Just like the Soviet Politburo, the idea in the tiny little mind of Tano and the Obama syncophants is that they will get to live like royalty off everyone else’s labor in the name of “equality”. Take for example Charles Rangel, who raises taxes regularly and whines about people hiding income while refusing to pay a single dime himself or disclose what he actually makes.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 27, 2009 @ 3:49 pm - October 27, 2009

  21. Republicans are winning now because Democrats look bad. Now Republicans have to start do stuff to look good.

    Comment by Mitchell Blatt — October 28, 2009 @ 10:16 am - October 28, 2009

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