But I welcome another run from Hoffman, because that 55% will hold next time too — in fact he’ll do worse when people know more about him. That 55% is no delusion.

Oh,……wow….!!!! It turns out Doug Hoffman is not the messiah. Wow!!!!, just …… Wow!!!!

So, pray tell me, just how did the nerd incarnate come within millimeters of smashing both liberal Sozzafava and Owens?

I am not a part of the welfare teat sucking NY-23, but you might be surprised how many principled people still live in the district.

Nope.

But you did state that your showing up here has nothing to do with making any substantive points and is primarily about being a troll.

I was really just being a troll, to some degree.

Which is all that liberals are good for, and what Americans are figuring out — that liberals offer no solutions or intelligent thought, and are little more than hypocritical trolls.

We know that since you shriek that anyone who says that marriage is between a man and a woman based on their religious beliefs is an awful, evil homophobe.

Except when you’re worshiping the ones who say it as your Messiah.

“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian … it’s also a sacred union. You know, God’s in the mix.”

As I Democrat, I am in complete agreement with this statement.

Of course I read the context. The statement is pure BS. Owens election means one more vote for Obama than we would have had, and the results in NJ and VA don’t change that one little bit.

Look, cool down, take a week off and do a reality check. Your choice to back Hoffman may have been a feel-good thing, but it was really silly when considered in any serious light. And I think, as to the gay thing, given Hoffman’s closeness to Beck and Limbaugh, that the many reports of his anti-gay views are absolutely correct.

As the neutered arrival of Owens, let me ask you if you even read my comments in context. The concluding sentence of the very paragraph you quote makes my point, “His victory, in short, does nothing to advance the Obama agenda.”

He’s neutered in the sense that his election doesn’t nothing to advance the Obama agenda.

Yes, I know I’m repeating my point which is sometimes necessary when communicating with liberals who seem determined to miss the points of conservative arguments.

Can’t let this little delight pass, either! He was a right-wing extremist as are the reality-devoid half of your commentators, and maybe, given your estimate of Hoffman, you yourself.

As I said a day or two ago, thanks for the additional seat in Congress.

And that this is just plain wrong: “And as to Nick’s point, I’ll just say that I think Congressman-elect Owens arrives neutered by the results in the Garden State and the margin in the Old Dominion.” How does that “neutering” work, exactly — do knives flash out from Trenton and Richmond all the way to the US Capitol? (I don’t mean to suggest, by negative implication, that anything else above was right.)

And, finally, as I understand it, Hoffman got involved in this all because he’s incredibly anti-gay, so you really ought to be pleased by his loss.

Dede may have been too-liberal, and then the fault’s with the local GOP committee who sanctioned her candidacy. But to concede the GOP-slot in the voting machine to the Social-right Christianst agenda is one reason there are so few elected-Republicans in the Northeast. And the Social-right has as little interest in fiscal responsibility and small government as the liberals in the Democratic Party. Both want an all-powerful Nanny-state telling people what they can and can’t do in-public and in-private….while feed the pig-trough for their political friends.

Oh, and Heliotrope – Doug Hoffman is a loser!!!!

I could care less about NY-23. If dairy subsidies (welfare) from the federal government were to be shut off and if Fort Drum were to be closed, NY-23 would be an unemployment, welfare dependent disaster area. A very slim majority of NY-23 voters opted for the welfare teat over the free market and personal responsibility.

The Democrats now have to up the pumping of federal juice in NY-23 to keep nerdy no-name people with principles running as independents from winning.

NY-23 welfare voters, Owens and the Democrats have just one year to make this election stick.

Anyone who calls Doug Hoffman a loser is whistling past the graveyard.

How’s that sky high taxing and emigration from the state working out for you New York?

Being dismissive of the Northeastern GOP moderates just plays into the hands of those of the Social-right who support the small-tent and don’t care about winning elections withot waving the blood-stained shirt of anti-abortion and anti-gay Christianist politics.

Owens was the perfect fit given the mentality for the people living there to sit back and take it or should I say give it, the Republicans caught a huge break in not having Ms. S sabotage the parties principles simply by having a (R) next to her name to wipe through the mud so the main stream media could continue to define a dyed in the wool liberal as a moderate.
I for one am thankful that Owens got the job being Hoffman did not.And it was an exciting,razor thin race in a place where a no name Republican should’t stand a prayer but things may be changing even for our NY brothers and sisters with the ultra radical changes that very few wanted that are being hatched by this administration.

Did ACORN pay you for this treasured gift or are you just that freakin’ stupid?

No, Democrats pay ACORN, ACORN registers dead people and fills out ballots for them. Thats how that works.

Republicans dont have anything to do with ACORN, or Black Panthers, SEIU, gangs or any of the many other Democrat criminal enterprises.

Their candidate was practically run out of town and I’m hoping they got the message loud and clear that we don’t want Republican “light”, we want conservatives with a message that offer a clear choice during elections.

I agree, Dave B. The problem is that we expect them to get the message. Many of them dont WANT to get the message. Many in the party leadership are liberals and RINOS themselves. People who WANT the Republican party to become more like the Democrats. We cannot wait for them to get that message, because they never will. They dont want to hear it. We have to get involved in our local parties and replace liberal Republicans with conservatives.

There is a mistaken belief that we have a two party system in America. We dont. Within the Republican party alone there are several groups all trying to control it. If we want conservative candidates, it means taking control from the Frumpys who want us to become Democrat-lite.

Unions? Whining about unions? New York is a strong union state!!! Why in the hell would you send an anti union candidate to hope to win in a strong union state? Who’s fault’s that? Unions? Or stupid people who hope an anti-union candidate can win in a strong union state? It’s naturally somebody else’s fault that people are this stupid! Did you graduate from the Sarah Bara-quitter’s school of professional whining and playing victim school?

Oh…it’s the mainstream media!!! WAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Freakin’ GROW UP! It has nothing to do with the fact that he simply lost the election because a majority of people here in NY-23 didn’t like the guy. NOOOOOOOO….couldn’t possibly be that!!! It’s the MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!! Yes…that’s it! The people of NY-23 didn’t go out an vote today but instead, the NY Times and MSNBC went and voted. The people of NY-23 couldn’t possibly be intelligent enough to vote for themselves. Nope…the people of NY-23 are too stupid to vote for themselves and it must be the MAINSTREAM MEDIA’S FAULT!!! WAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I got news for ya…Hoffman didn’t win today because of stupidity like this! We don’t want this bulls##t representing us!

It certainly doesn’t help that part of Doug “Rock Star” Hoffman’s entourage labeled us and our issues “parochial”. We’re too stupid to be insulted by that considering none of you people are smart enough to be insulted by it so it must be A-OK! Well it wasn’t!

Opinion generators and their obedient acolytes such as yourselves labeled Scozzafava the “candidate of the Workers Family Party” and campaigned to cost her as many votes as possible. The truth was, Owens was the candidate of the Workers Family Party and you comfortably took a seat that was a sure Republican seat 4 weeks ago (and since the Civil War) and handed it over to the Workers Family Party candidate. Did ACORN pay you for this treasured gift or are you just that freakin’ stupid?

Stay out of NY-23!

they are not poll quesitons about support for the president.

And even Snufflupagus said it was a referendum on Chairman Obama. If I’m not mistaken, the CBS poll I mentioned in the other thread said that, if anything, Obama’s stumping in NJ hurt Corzine.

In what alternate universe do you reside, Tardo?