First Shots of a Civil War Among Democrats?
For all the talk from the MSM about a “civil war” in the GOP, it would appear that there are quite a number of “angry” liberals in the Democrat Party too. The liberal America Blog is calling for a boycott, or “pause” as they prefer to call it, of the DNC, Organizing for America and the Obama campaign due to broken promises on gay rights:
We are asking voters to pledge to withhold contributions to the Democratic National Committee, Organizing for America, and the Obama campaign until the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) is passed, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT) is repealed, and the so-called Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is repealed -– all of which President Obama repeatedly promised to do if elected.
America Blog’s “pause” is being echoed by other prominent liberal blogs and bloggers, including: Daily Kos, Dan Savage, David Mixner, FireDogLake, Michelangelo Signorile, Pam’s House Blend & Towleroad.
It’s not just a failure on gay rights by Obama/Pelosi/Reid that has liberal Democrats upset, the Stupak amendment to the recently-passed House version of ObamaCare has angered the prominent Open Left blog enough to likewise call for a boycott of the DCCC:
It is time for progressives to pass a Stupak amendment of our own. We need to stop giving money to organizations that spend money on John Boccieri, Bobby Bright, Travis Childers, Parker Griffith, and Harry Teague. We are better off without spending a single dime on most, if not all, of these 23 Democrats.
Their call to boycott the DCCC is being echoed by DailyKos.
With all the angst out there on both sides of the political spectrum it appears that we do indeed live in “interesting times“. How’s that hopeychangeyness coming along, Mr. President?
– John (Average Gay Joe)
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Yeah. Democratic lawmakers will be sooooo afraid of the boycott. They know gays are submissive little chihuahuas . They will make alot of noise and threats but come re-election time, they will vote Democrat again and give them their money again. So why would ANY Democrat in Washington take this “boycott” seriously?
Democratic Gays are masochists. I think they secretly love the humiliation of getting played for decades on end by Democrats in office. The are as stupid as Charlie Brown is when facing Lucy, being told “I won’t pull the football away this time. I mean it”.
Their threats are empty and everyone knows it
Comment by bg — November 9, 2009 @ 6:57 pm - November 9, 2009
I saw that post and have to admit, as a social/fiscal/almost everything conservative, I am stymied.
A “pause?” … ok.
I keep saying it 2010 and 2012 are going to be shockers for both parties. All the false ground claimed in being a moderate has watered down both parties to create one big lie.
Say what you mean, do what you say is what the American people are looking for. Unfortunately there are few in either party who believe that transparency and being a person of your “word” means anything anymore.
I think that those who are only seeking power and re-election will be shocked in 2010 and 2012.
Comment by Randy — November 9, 2009 @ 7:50 pm - November 9, 2009
“Their call to boycott the DCCC is being echoed by DailyKos.”
I echo it too!
Comment by American Elephant — November 9, 2009 @ 8:54 pm - November 9, 2009
The “evil” fundamentalist “Christianist” hard right is offset by the liberal reconstruction moonbats. I will defer to the experts to judge the relative size of each splinter section. Beyond these extremes are liberals who see government as the great equalizer in the quest for egalitarianism and conservatives who want government as scare as practical in dictating the affairs of citizens. “Moderates” are the squishy middle who may have a few pet causes, but mostly want to be liked by as many people as possible.
The Democrats (liberals) warn with a mighty trumpet that Sarah Palin will bring the Republican party to ruin. (Which, as a contradiction of their heralded concern, is their ultimate aim.) Meanwhile, Obama, who is as far left as rub up against the border with Marx, Che, Mao, Fidel, and Hugo is sold as a “moderate.” Nonetheless, the Democrat left is passionately dissing Obama as being weak on socialism.
Yes, the Democrats may have internal wars, but it makes no real difference. You see Democrats are all about obtaining and exercising power at any price. This includes open duplicity.
Republicans, on the other hand, are wedded to principle. When you take and hold a principled stand, you impose strict limitations upon yourself. Democrats do not worry about lying and cheating, because it is expected of gangs. Republicans who lie and cheat are unprincipled and therefore unfit. The Democrats are usually the very first to call out the Republican who strays from his principles.
One of the reasons the Democrats endlessly smear Palin is because they know she will call them out and tar them with their own duplicity. It is not a matter of civil wars within the parties as it is open combat between the parties. Reagan laughed at the Democrat monkey shines and the voters laughed with him. Bush I, Bush II and McCain all tried to make nice and the Democrats crapped on them and threw them aside like so much bird cage liner.
Al Gore, John Kerry and Barak Obama together do not make one decent candidate of trust and honor for the Presidency. That is why the Democrats so fear Palin.
Comment by heliotrope — November 9, 2009 @ 9:26 pm - November 9, 2009
Isn’t it great how Obama has LED us to all get along and comprimise and give and take? Isn’t it excellent how Obama has gotten us all to avoid extreme positions? Nice job Mr President. Boob.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — November 9, 2009 @ 9:50 pm - November 9, 2009
Puhleez.
All this is about is empty posturing on the fact of the completely amoral. Barack Obama need no more fear that Pam Spaulding, John Aravosis, Kos, Savage, Signorile, Towleroad, and others will stop giving him money and votes than he needs to fear waking up six inches shorter tomorrow morning.
As far as civil wars go, this is at best a re-enactment — without any gunpowder.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 10, 2009 @ 12:10 am - November 10, 2009
Re: Savege:
It really speaks volumes about the Democrat party and liberalism in general that a man who tells people how to stick dildos up their ass for a living is a major power player.
Comment by American Elephant — November 10, 2009 @ 1:09 am - November 10, 2009
I’m still laughing AE. . .your commentary about Savage. Beautiful.
Comment by rusty — November 10, 2009 @ 8:46 am - November 10, 2009
When your opponent party is largely marginalized and ineffective, the major part always begins fighting within itself. It happened before with Republicans several times between 2002-2006, when they had one party rule. The unhappiness of Gays with Obama has been going on for awhile, I would have thought the passing of the Matthew Shepard Act would have soothed some of those feelings. I really don’t get why they keep punting on DADT, when it seems to be less controversial of most of the gay rights issues.
The health care bill will not have that Stupak Amendment in it when it comes out of conference. Its going to be too bitter of a pill for pro choice democrats in the end, so it will be interesting to see how they work out that piece of political theater.
Comment by Darkeyedresolve — November 10, 2009 @ 9:25 am - November 10, 2009
Everything I think about voting for a republican, Dobson and the FOF crew come out and remind me why voting republican is a very bad idea.
Comment by gillie — November 10, 2009 @ 10:25 am - November 10, 2009
gillie, that seems like a queer reason not to vote Republican. But somehow, I place voting Republican on your list well below undertaking a self-conducted root canal using a jack hammer.
Comment by heliotrope — November 10, 2009 @ 10:37 am - November 10, 2009
3: As do I, for two reasons: 1. It’s the principled thing to do – I urge Republicans and other partisans believing they are being betrayed by their politicians to do likewise. Of course, it may not be practical or politically strategic to do so. 2. I’m opposed to most of the Democrat agenda, though not regarding ENDA, DADT & DOMA in general, and have no problems getting out of the way whilst they eat their own.
5: That’s President “Shout-Out” to you, bub. Now if only he could learn the difference between the Congressional Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom…
6: Indeed, most partisans on both sides will bitch and moan but end up voting for their preferred party regardless. Of course, sometimes that doesn’t happen as we’ve seen in recent elections. Ooooh, can’t wait for the “pro-choice” side to weigh in on 2010 should the Stupak amendment remain in place regardless of whether the health care bill passes or not. Such fun!
9: Hate crimes was a sop, something I could take or leave. This was the least important of the promises Obama made and Democrats relying on this to quell anger among their ranks would be fools. It’s not just liberal gays he has problems with now, so-called progressives are up in arms over a number of things. Absolutely delicious to watch!
10: Understandable. Yet I’m reminded of NARAL, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, Algore, ACORN, SEIU, etc. whenever I think about voting Democrat. Nope, I’d like a third alternative but don’t expect one anytime soon…
Comment by John — November 10, 2009 @ 11:13 am - November 10, 2009
I am a conservative lesbian, who would like to see DADT repealed only because too many good soldiers are being canned for the wrong reason, and scum like the killer in Ft Hood stay on because of PC fear.
On Gay Marriage, it really is not necessary, however, we do need guarantees in our relationships and protections such as hospital visitations, end of life decisions, etc. Without changing society norms those things could be simplified with a Domestic Partner license.
I for sure don’t want to see my tax dollars go for Abortions, unless it is to save the life of the mother. In fact, I think after the initial 12 weeks, there should be restrictions on all abortions. Such as to save life of mother, etc. I wish the AMA would police themselves on this and refuse to perform abortions after 12 weeks unless it is medically necessary.
In any case, I hope the Dems implode, but I hope the Republicans don’t get to cocky and realize they have work to do to take back the legislature and presidency. They need to offer more than insults and offer solutions.
Comment by Libertygal — November 10, 2009 @ 12:00 pm - November 10, 2009
“Pause” is indeed the right word, but not in the same context. What we’re seeing is simply a “pause” in the longer war within the Democratic Party.
If you recall, it was the Dems who were in some disarray even as we entered the new decade. They chose weak candidate Kerry, and when he lost to Bush in 2004, the party went completely batty for a while. We all wrote about the glee of watching the Dems fall over each other as a result of this defeat and the difficulties of responding in any coherent fashion to the war. The chaos broke when the public turned away from Bush and the Republicans, and the Dems stated winning. Obama was to be the shining light, the “New Hope” – JFK and MLK all rolled into one. Of course, he isn’t living up to expectations… who could… and now that Dems realize everyone watching can see that they are no better than Bush and the republican congress (potentially worse by large measures), the armistice has ended,
Hey, this point could make a great blog post somewhere.
Comment by Sonicfrog — November 10, 2009 @ 1:19 pm - November 10, 2009
Everything I think about voting for a republican, Dobson and the FOF crew come out and remind me why voting republican is a very bad idea.
Why? You support and endorse state and Federal constitutional amendments banning gay marriage. You support and endorse people like Barack Obama who state that marriage is between a man and a woman because, quote, “God’s in the mix”.
You simply are trying to come up with a rational-sounding reason for what is clearly irrational bigotry on your part. It’s no surprise that you support the Obama Party; Republicans don’t much care for people like you who use their sexual orientation as an excuse for being bigots.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 10, 2009 @ 3:47 pm - November 10, 2009
FINALLY — Gays unite to withhold donations to Democrats until DADT and DOMA are repealed while pro-choice Democratic women threaten mutiny or something…
Well, well, well!
Since Sunday, two groups that Democrats have gleefully exploited and abused and held hostage — because what are they going to do? become Republicans? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! — have finally figured out that they must unite and ri…
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