Comments on: GALLUP: Majority of Americans Say Healthcare Is NOT the Government’s Reponsibility

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:27:16 +0000

Also – as I suspected, you’ve brought your nasty dishonesty into the wrong thread. This thread has nothing to do with marriage.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:25:19 +0000

Of course, what I actually did was: use the phrases like “gay nuclear family” or “gay-headed nuclear family”, neologisms along the lines of “gay marriage”. So sorry you can’t accept that.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:41 +0000

No actually, you got very huffy and demanded that gays couples ARE nuclear families too, and then you bitched and moaned when I posted a dozen dictionary definitions proving you wrong yet again.

Indeed, you tried to use a dictionary definition of extended family to show that nuclear families really meant gay people too, except the very dictionary you were quoting defined a nuclear family as a mom a dad and their children.

Once again you lie your ass off.

You truly are pathetic. Please stop humiliating yourself.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:00:58 +0000

when you claimed that the phrase “nuclear family” does not mean a mother and father and their children,

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:59:08 +0000

When YOU claimed that “dyads” were the “essential purpose” of marriage

But that has nothing to do with whether Americans are allowed to define marriage. I think they should be allowed to, and have said so time and again.

Also – as I suspected, you’ve brought your nasty dishonesty into the wrong thread. This thread has nothing to do with marriage.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:55:19 +0000

Also, when you claimed two men can reproduce with each other.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:54:57 +0000

Also, when you claimed that the phrase “nuclear family” does not mean a mother and father and their children, but includes gay couples despite being contradicted by a dozen dictionaries which explicitly defined a nuclear family as a mother, father and their children.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:39:49 +0000

When YOU claimed that “dyads” were the “essential purpose” of marriage, but were unable to cite ANY marriage statute that said so.

ILC = “I Lie Constantly”

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:32:49 +0000

Also, kindly point out where I have ever said, thought or suggested that “the American people do not get to define the purposes of their own institutions”.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:32:08 +0000

AE, are you trying to suggest, in your roundabout twisted way, that health care *is* a legitimate purpose of the federal government? Or did you simply attach your comment to the wrong thread?

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:29:09 +0000

Unfortunately for all of us, as ILC has pointed out, the American people do not get to define the purposes of their own institutions, so the fact that the majority of Americans dont think it is governments role to provide health care to everyone is irrelevant. The fact that the constitution limits the powers of government is irrelevant. Only ILC can define institutions’ purposes, with his omnipotent understanding of “reality”

ILC, would you please enlighten the American people to what the purpose of government is in this regard? And please define all relevant terms for us so that we may understand their REAL meaning, since we now know, once again thanks to you, that dictionaries lie.

By: Steven E. Kalbach

Steven E. Kalbach — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:59:22 +0000

ROFL@TGC, I was going to say something similar the other day, “Oh, it’s gonna be a short-short decade for the delusional demon-rat democrats”

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:24:56 +0000

Oh it’s gonna be a long, long bloodbath for the OhioPoopScooper and his ilk.

By: straightAussie

straightAussie — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:42:13 +0000

It does not work anyway. My Australian experience has been an increase in the out of pocket expenses to more than 100% since this horrid scheme was introduced.

By: Sean A

Sean A — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:49:19 +0000

#2: “I suspect many (thinking) people are looking at the mess the Guv’ment’s made of the Seasonal and H1N1 Flu vaccine program and don’t want that same level of ‘efficiency’ applied to their family’s health care. **shudder**”

All any thinking person has to do to know that government (particularly Obama’s government) shouldn’t have anything to do with healthcare is remember three words: cash for clunkers. I wouldn’t let Obama, Pelosi, Reid, or any of those other f-ing clowns program my DVR.

By: PatriotMom

PatriotMom — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:33:03 +0000

Speaking as someone who probably a cadillac plan, I worked hard for that plan.
I do not want anyone taking it away or fining me for having it. Hard work is what got me this plan. Others who do not have a good healthcare should try it.

By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:21:40 +0000

I suspect many (thinking) people are looking at the mess the Guv’ment’s made of the Seasonal and H1N1 Flu vaccine program and don’t want that same level of ‘efficiency’ applied to their family’s health care. **shudder**

Plus, I think the ever-escalating cost-projections are spooking the public…especially facing the already massive deficits projects for the next several years.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:30:38 +0000

Bruce, that is huge!

Two-thirds thinking healthcare coverage was the federal government’s responsibility? A sign of disaster, what I call “America’s date with socialism”.

Support coming down to 47% (or 50% against)? A sign of hope. You could say, Obama has brought us hope.

I think the economy has something to do with it. We have been living in a dreamworld economically speaking, the last 10-11 years with the dot-com bubble and then the real estate bubble. Support for Democrats and socialism (which never work in reality) are part of that. Perhaps some people now are figuring out that in fact, they are lucky just to have jobs and to be living in a rich country. And we haven’t even had the second wave of the financial crisis yet. (coming, probably in 2010)