<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Carly Fiorina Opposed &#8220;Stimulus,&#8221; Opposes &#8220;Card Check&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/</link>
	<description>The Internet home for American gay conservatives.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:02:55 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-512552</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-512552</guid>
		<description>&quot;Sounds like you’re saying private citizens shouldn’t speak out on such issues&quot;

THats the dumbest interpretation I have ever heard.
Ain&#039;t I a private citizen speaking out on issues?

&quot;I think you may have meant “authority” instead of “responsiblity.”&quot;

No, I meant responsibility. She had no responsibility for making public policy, so she was completely free to make irresponsible statements geared to cultivating a political following.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sounds like you’re saying private citizens shouldn’t speak out on such issues&#8221;</p>
<p>THats the dumbest interpretation I have ever heard.<br />
Ain&#8217;t I a private citizen speaking out on issues?</p>
<p>&#8220;I think you may have meant “authority” instead of “responsiblity.”&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I meant responsibility. She had no responsibility for making public policy, so she was completely free to make irresponsible statements geared to cultivating a political following.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-512280</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-512280</guid>
		<description>I sure hope she wins next year. Boxer is the worst Senator in the entire country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure hope she wins next year. Boxer is the worst Senator in the entire country.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-512223</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-512223</guid>
		<description>It would seem to me a mistake to vote against or for a candidate for governor based on that person&#039;s Prop 8 position.  I can understand frustration when that candidate doesn&#039;t share one&#039;s views on the issue (whether it&#039;s candidate for/voter against or candidate against/voter for), but given the way California&#039;s government works with ballot initiatives and constitutional amendments, it seems that a governor&#039;s power to affect the issue one way or another is limited.  Much more important, it seems to me, is to vote for someone based on taxation and government spending.  CF will undoubtedly be a lot better than any California Democrat.  The main issue is whether she will be solid against big government and not give in like Arnold did.  At this point, it seems like she&#039;d be a huge improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem to me a mistake to vote against or for a candidate for governor based on that person&#8217;s Prop 8 position.  I can understand frustration when that candidate doesn&#8217;t share one&#8217;s views on the issue (whether it&#8217;s candidate for/voter against or candidate against/voter for), but given the way California&#8217;s government works with ballot initiatives and constitutional amendments, it seems that a governor&#8217;s power to affect the issue one way or another is limited.  Much more important, it seems to me, is to vote for someone based on taxation and government spending.  CF will undoubtedly be a lot better than any California Democrat.  The main issue is whether she will be solid against big government and not give in like Arnold did.  At this point, it seems like she&#8217;d be a huge improvement.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-512035</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-512035</guid>
		<description>Dan, I think Tano meant that anybody who was actually in office would naturally come around to the left-liberal position on Porkulus.  It&#039;s a way of discounting our opposition to it.  &quot;They don&#039;t really mean it.  Or if they do, they&#039;re just stupid because  because Porkulus is &lt;em&gt;The Only Way&lt;/em&gt; and if they were in office, they would of course recognize it and cave in.&quot;

That kind of thinking is true... &lt;em&gt;of left-liberals and Gitmo&lt;/em&gt;.  Keeping a couple hundred terrorists locked up in Gitmo is the only way.  In the last year, Obama and other lefties have been forced to recognize that.  In a strange, twisted way, as reality teaches our leftie friends various hard lessons, their minds produce a defensive projection that is it somehow libertarians/conservatives that are being forced to learn various hard lessons - or who would be so forced, if they held office.  Thus they can avoid seeing the fact that libertarian-conservative ideas, unlike leftist ideas, actually work in reality and don&#039;t need to be drastically altered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think Tano meant that anybody who was actually in office would naturally come around to the left-liberal position on Porkulus.  It&#8217;s a way of discounting our opposition to it.  &#8220;They don&#8217;t really mean it.  Or if they do, they&#8217;re just stupid because  because Porkulus is <em>The Only Way</em> and if they were in office, they would of course recognize it and cave in.&#8221;</p>
<p>That kind of thinking is true&#8230; <em>of left-liberals and Gitmo</em>.  Keeping a couple hundred terrorists locked up in Gitmo is the only way.  In the last year, Obama and other lefties have been forced to recognize that.  In a strange, twisted way, as reality teaches our leftie friends various hard lessons, their minds produce a defensive projection that is it somehow libertarians/conservatives that are being forced to learn various hard lessons &#8211; or who would be so forced, if they held office.  Thus they can avoid seeing the fact that libertarian-conservative ideas, unlike leftist ideas, actually work in reality and don&#8217;t need to be drastically altered.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-512000</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-512000</guid>
		<description>Tano, it&#039;s how I reply to this statement, &quot;Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter&quot;.

Sounds like you&#039;re saying private citizens shouldn&#039;t speak out on such issues.  I think you may have meant &quot;authority&quot; instead of &quot;responsiblity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano, it&#8217;s how I reply to this statement, &#8220;Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;re saying private citizens shouldn&#8217;t speak out on such issues.  I think you may have meant &#8220;authority&#8221; instead of &#8220;responsiblity.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511993</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511993</guid>
		<description>&quot;now suggests private citizens shouldn’t speak out on public matters&quot;

Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;now suggests private citizens shouldn’t speak out on public matters&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511987</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511987</guid>
		<description>As per #4, it seems poor Tano, ever looking for a nit to pick with us, now suggests private citizens shouldn&#039;t speak out on public matters and about things of which he is most ignorant.  In January 2009, shortly after Obama took office, Fiorina spoke out against the &quot;stimulus.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per #4, it seems poor Tano, ever looking for a nit to pick with us, now suggests private citizens shouldn&#8217;t speak out on public matters and about things of which he is most ignorant.  In January 2009, shortly after Obama took office, Fiorina spoke out against the &#8220;stimulus.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511966</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511966</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter, and was not an out-front political figure at the time it passed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So why the purple-plexia over whether or not Palin supported it?

&lt;blockquote&gt;And card check? Isn’t that a totally dead issue by now?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope:
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/61049-sen-brown-decent-chance-for-a-card-check-deal-to-pass

Perhaps you and the other a-hole liberals would like it to be forgotten so it can be sprung on us later, but it&#039;s not dead. Not as long as liberals are still rewarding the unions for their &lt;strike&gt;kickbacks&lt;/strike&gt; er....&quot;campaign contributions&quot; (yeah, that&#039;s the ticket).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter, and was not an out-front political figure at the time it passed.</p></blockquote>
<p>So why the purple-plexia over whether or not Palin supported it?</p>
<blockquote><p>And card check? Isn’t that a totally dead issue by now?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope:<br />
<a href="http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/61049-sen-brown-decent-chance-for-a-card-check-deal-to-pass" rel="nofollow">http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/61049-sen-brown-decent-chance-for-a-card-check-deal-to-pass</a></p>
<p>Perhaps you and the other a-hole liberals would like it to be forgotten so it can be sprung on us later, but it&#8217;s not dead. Not as long as liberals are still rewarding the unions for their <strike>kickbacks</strike> er&#8230;.&#8221;campaign contributions&#8221; (yeah, that&#8217;s the ticket).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511905</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511905</guid>
		<description>And card check? Isn&#039;t that a totally dead issue by now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And card check? Isn&#8217;t that a totally dead issue by now?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511861</guid>
		<description>&quot;Fiorina was against the stimulus&quot;

Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter, and was not an out-front political figure at the time it passed. As a result, her &quot;position&quot; speaks only to the question of which constituency she is seeking to win over, not on how she would have voted if the responsibility were on her shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fiorina was against the stimulus&#8221;</p>
<p>Fiorina had no responsibility whatsoever on the matter, and was not an out-front political figure at the time it passed. As a result, her &#8220;position&#8221; speaks only to the question of which constituency she is seeking to win over, not on how she would have voted if the responsibility were on her shoulders.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511838</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511838</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To be sure, I’m not on board with Carly on every issue.  She, for example, supported Prop 8. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Agreed.  (I voted against Prop 8; although I do not fault Prop 8 supporters / gay marriage opponents, because they had a valid point that SCOCA was wrong to have imposed gay marriage on CA by judicial fiat.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To be sure, I’m not on board with Carly on every issue.  She, for example, supported Prop 8. </p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.  (I voted against Prop 8; although I do not fault Prop 8 supporters / gay marriage opponents, because they had a valid point that SCOCA was wrong to have imposed gay marriage on CA by judicial fiat.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511836</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511836</guid>
		<description>Dan, thanks for carrying forward my question!

With Fiorina&#039;s answer, we&#039;ve arrived in territory where the only way to accuse her of supporting the stimulus is to simultaneously accuse her of being a ridiculous liar.  Which I do *not* accuse her of; quite the contrary.  I&#039;ve been impressed with her recent appearances.  I asked the question because others have asked the question of me, and I couldn&#039;t find anything definitive on google, but I will take this latest answer as definitive, that Fiorina was against the stimulus.  (The right position, IMHO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, thanks for carrying forward my question!</p>
<p>With Fiorina&#8217;s answer, we&#8217;ve arrived in territory where the only way to accuse her of supporting the stimulus is to simultaneously accuse her of being a ridiculous liar.  Which I do *not* accuse her of; quite the contrary.  I&#8217;ve been impressed with her recent appearances.  I asked the question because others have asked the question of me, and I couldn&#8217;t find anything definitive on google, but I will take this latest answer as definitive, that Fiorina was against the stimulus.  (The right position, IMHO)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/23/carly-fiorina-opposed-stimulus-opposes-card-check/comment-page-1/#comment-511816</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19523#comment-511816</guid>
		<description>Congrats on the interview. Are you going to interview her Republican opponent?

I&#039;d love to ask her how she would shrink, not slow the growth of, but shrink government. I&#039;ve found thats a good way to weed the real fiscal conservatives out from the rhetorical ones. The former will have concrete answers because they have actually thought about the issue, the latter will hem and haw because they have no real interest in shrinking govt. 

I readily admit I know little of Fiorina, and am just beginning to learn about her -- will be interested to hear about the rest of the interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the interview. Are you going to interview her Republican opponent?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to ask her how she would shrink, not slow the growth of, but shrink government. I&#8217;ve found thats a good way to weed the real fiscal conservatives out from the rhetorical ones. The former will have concrete answers because they have actually thought about the issue, the latter will hem and haw because they have no real interest in shrinking govt. </p>
<p>I readily admit I know little of Fiorina, and am just beginning to learn about her &#8212; will be interested to hear about the rest of the interview.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

