And the simple fact is, ID is NOT science, by definition. That’s not meant to be insulting, it’s just not science. So of course, it has no support. The math department has teachers who teach math, not english. It’s the same way for science deparments. They don’t teach other subjects. All the “holes” are already taught in class anyway, where are we, where are we going, what do we know.

But back to the matter at hand: scientists do have emotions and cling to their pet theories, something Tano cannot admit. This is any scientist, whether it’s AGW or string theory. Plate tectonics took a long time to catch on, so did the big bang theory.

These “scientists” want to force AGW on people instead of letting the natural way of building consensus run its course: by convincing people. The only way to convince anyone is to share data, to allow peer reviews by skeptics, to support diverse opinions and attack the data, not each other. But I read one quote by a prominent researcher (it’s buried in a book here) that said “it’s ok to exagerate because the issue is so important”. no, it’s never ok, not in science.

These people have hung up their scientist coats and put on their high priest robes, placed the data in some holy sanctum no one is allowed to enter, and claim they are the only ones who can interpret the truth for others.

….the mentality of you deniers is similar to the creationists. I wasted far too much of my life arguing with people like that – its clear that they are beyond reason …. (Tano #41.)

Let me get this straight: Creationists are stupidly stuck in their ignorant religion and you just can’t reason with them ….but… those who accept the man made global warming theory supported by a “consensus of scientists” who mainly have faith in their belief are …….

Well, wait, ….. I forget, who is stupidly stuck again……?

the mentality of you deniers is similar to the creationists….Y’all fantasize that you have a scandal – hey, the scandal of the century – its just downright hilarious.

Tano, the only one denying science is YOU. You deny the science that calls AGW into question, falsely claiming there is some “consensus” — which in itself shows your outright rejection of the scientific method. You deny the emails, confirmed by the source as accurate, that illustrate the corruption of the major proponents of AGW. You deny anything and everything that calls your “god” into question.

I’m embarrassed FOR you.

I’m not wasting my time Livewire. I said my piece and repeated it several times. As Ashpenaz makes clear in his comment above, the mentality of you deniers is similar to the creationists. I wasted far too much of my life arguing with people like that – its clear that they are beyond reason, as are you guys. Y’all fantasize that you have a scandal – hey, the scandal of the century – its just downright hilarious. I am just going to sit back and watch y’all make even bigger fools of yourselves.