Comments on: MSM’s masquerade of objectivity http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/29/msms-masquerade-of-objectivity/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:12:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: eaglewingz08 http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/29/msms-masquerade-of-objectivity/comment-page-1/#comment-516054 eaglewingz08 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:35:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19696#comment-516054 Their time will only be up if Mr. Obama and the American taxpayers aren't conned into 'bailing them out' as they requested in a sit down with the current socialist FTC Commissioner. Imagine if Pres. George W. Bush had requested a bailout and/or supervision of newsmedia to strengthen them or increase their marketability, the left would be throwing a tizzy. But when the left proposes fascism its nothing to report on, no problems. I still can't see how they believe, that with all the controls they'd impose on newspapers (and that darned First Amendment the left is always yappin about), that they would never ever lose any further congressional or presidential elections and then have the newmedia fall into evillllll rethuglican conservative knuckle crawling hands. Also the newsmedia already suffers mightily in the public mind because of its unadorned alignment with the leftwing of the DNC. Imagine if it accepted Washington largesse and therefore control, they would have no credibility left in their reportage. Their time will only be up if Mr. Obama and the American taxpayers aren’t conned into ‘bailing them out’ as they requested in a sit down with the current socialist FTC Commissioner. Imagine if Pres. George W. Bush had requested a bailout and/or supervision of newsmedia to strengthen them or increase their marketability, the left would be throwing a tizzy. But when the left proposes fascism its nothing to report on, no problems. I still can’t see how they believe, that with all the controls they’d impose on newspapers (and that darned First Amendment the left is always yappin about), that they would never ever lose any further congressional or presidential elections and then have the newmedia fall into evillllll rethuglican conservative knuckle crawling hands.
Also the newsmedia already suffers mightily in the public mind because of its unadorned alignment with the leftwing of the DNC. Imagine if it accepted Washington largesse and therefore control, they would have no credibility left in their reportage.

]]> By: Madalyn http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/29/msms-masquerade-of-objectivity/comment-page-1/#comment-515392 Madalyn Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:08:32 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19696#comment-515392 It used to be the only liars on TV were the ones in the TV show "To Tell the Truth" or "The Liars Club". Now, all the news media are the liars. I get my news from blogs. Can't trust the media. I do watch Fox News, but even there, Bill O'Reilly caves in to some of the liberal crap. Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are more truthful than any type of news show out there. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Madalyn It used to be the only liars on TV were the ones in the TV show “To Tell the Truth” or “The Liars Club”. Now, all the news media are the liars. I get my news from blogs. Can’t trust the media. I do watch Fox News, but even there, Bill O’Reilly caves in to some of the liberal crap. Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are more truthful than any type of news show out there.
Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
Madalyn

]]> By: American Elephant http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/29/msms-masquerade-of-objectivity/comment-page-1/#comment-514836 American Elephant Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:41:53 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19696#comment-514836 The false assumption here is that liberals ever intended to present their views honestly, and would do so again if only circumstances were different. The reality is that advancing liberalism <i>requires</i> deceit. The false assumption here is that liberals ever intended to present their views honestly, and would do so again if only circumstances were different.

The reality is that advancing liberalism requires deceit.

]]> By: Jim Hlavac http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/11/29/msms-masquerade-of-objectivity/comment-page-1/#comment-514785 Jim Hlavac Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:21:19 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=19696#comment-514785 Back in the "bad" old days, newspapers had a viewpoint. There were three and four per city even. Each espousing its views based on principles and biases they thought were correct. Then TV came along and the air waves were said to be "owned" by the "people" (and are forests for paper owned by the people? No, so why ions and electrons in the air?) and so we had to have "objectivity" so that none of the "owners" would be "offended." Then the print media went "objective" and lo, they failed and fell by the hundreds. "Objectivity" always decays to "subjectivity" because human principles and biases, such as you have them, do not go away. Then it was a matter of who would control what was "objective." Which is why I have always advocated against "objective" thought and said let the media be as subjective, biased, opinionated and for or against something as they want -- and the debate would be a lot healthier. Objectivity is like grits, it's all mush. Subjectivity is a steak, you can chomp down and decide if it is rare, medium, well done, marbled, beefy or whatever enough for you and which sauce to put on it if any. And few people would ask for mush over steak. In fact, only the left asks, nay, demands, mush over steak. And mush for all, instead of steak for whomever and however they want it. Back in the “bad” old days, newspapers had a viewpoint. There were three and four per city even. Each espousing its views based on principles and biases they thought were correct. Then TV came along and the air waves were said to be “owned” by the “people” (and are forests for paper owned by the people? No, so why ions and electrons in the air?) and so we had to have “objectivity” so that none of the “owners” would be “offended.” Then the print media went “objective” and lo, they failed and fell by the hundreds. “Objectivity” always decays to “subjectivity” because human principles and biases, such as you have them, do not go away. Then it was a matter of who would control what was “objective.” Which is why I have always advocated against “objective” thought and said let the media be as subjective, biased, opinionated and for or against something as they want — and the debate would be a lot healthier. Objectivity is like grits, it’s all mush. Subjectivity is a steak, you can chomp down and decide if it is rare, medium, well done, marbled, beefy or whatever enough for you and which sauce to put on it if any. And few people would ask for mush over steak. In fact, only the left asks, nay, demands, mush over steak. And mush for all, instead of steak for whomever and however they want it.

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