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	<title>Comments on: Nancy Pelosi Blames Bush for &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; Failure</title>
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		<title>By: LiberalsEqualCrap</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-533238</link>
		<dc:creator>LiberalsEqualCrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully the unemployment claims will increase by 1 after the November elections. (that being one Nancy Pelosi)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully the unemployment claims will increase by 1 after the November elections. (that being one Nancy Pelosi)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518884</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tano thinks that insurance companies physically prevent you from accessing non-covered care like Gandalf at the Bridge of Kazad Dum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Heh :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tano thinks that insurance companies physically prevent you from accessing non-covered care like Gandalf at the Bridge of Kazad Dum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518841</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now, NDT, lets give chad the benefit of the doubt.

It could be that posters like Chad and Tano aren&#039;t just Obama cheerleaders.  I mean lets look at the evidence.

Tano &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/05/state-still-wrong-on-honduras/comment-page-1/#comment-473168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;doesn&#039;t understand&lt;/a&gt; Honduras.

Tano thinks that insurance companies physically prevent you from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=19913#comment-518061&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accessing non-covered care&lt;/a&gt; like Gandalf at the Bridge of Kazad Dum.

He thinks that rather than giving hope to our allies (Poland, Georiga, Israel, et al) The previous administration&#039;s policy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=19881#comment-517265&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alienated them&lt;/a&gt;.

Tano doesn&#039;t even show understanding of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/08/15/ronald-reagan-speaks-out-against-socialized-medicine/#comment-460924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;basic history&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh wait, never mind.  No one could be &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; consistently wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now, NDT, lets give chad the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>It could be that posters like Chad and Tano aren&#8217;t just Obama cheerleaders.  I mean lets look at the evidence.</p>
<p>Tano <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/09/05/state-still-wrong-on-honduras/comment-page-1/#comment-473168" rel="nofollow">doesn&#8217;t understand</a> Honduras.</p>
<p>Tano thinks that insurance companies physically prevent you from <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=19913#comment-518061" rel="nofollow">accessing non-covered care</a> like Gandalf at the Bridge of Kazad Dum.</p>
<p>He thinks that rather than giving hope to our allies (Poland, Georiga, Israel, et al) The previous administration&#8217;s policy <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=19881#comment-517265" rel="nofollow">alienated them</a>.</p>
<p>Tano doesn&#8217;t even show understanding of <a href="http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/08/15/ronald-reagan-speaks-out-against-socialized-medicine/#comment-460924" rel="nofollow">basic history</a>.</p>
<p>Oh wait, never mind.  No one could be <i>that</i> consistently wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharp Right Turn</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518832</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharp Right Turn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Pelosi is finally admitting that the Stimulus is a failure. I never thought I&#039;d ever live to see the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Pelosi is finally admitting that the Stimulus is a failure. I never thought I&#8217;d ever live to see the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Casualty of Hope and Change</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518663</link>
		<dc:creator>Casualty of Hope and Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a job every year that George Bush was President but unemployed under almost all of Obama&#039;s administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a job every year that George Bush was President but unemployed under almost all of Obama&#8217;s administration.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518639</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, &quot;questioned and discredited&quot;, chad, just like your Barack Obama&#039;s claim that he &quot;created jobs&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/16/that-stimulus-is-so-freaking-a?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+(Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog)&amp;utm_content=Bloglines&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in congressional districts that don&#039;t exist&lt;/a&gt; and which in other cases were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2009/11/11/stimulus_fund_job_benefits_exaggerated_review_finds/?page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;exaggerated by enormous proportions&lt;/a&gt;.

But of course, as a good Obama shill, just like those &quot;economists&quot; quoted, and just like your fellow paid propagandist Tano, you will sit there and tell us that those jobs exist, that those congressional districts are really there, that giving a person a pay increase counts as a job &quot;created or saved&quot;, and that all of us are racists for not agreeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, &#8220;questioned and discredited&#8221;, chad, just like your Barack Obama&#8217;s claim that he &#8220;created jobs&#8221; <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/16/that-stimulus-is-so-freaking-a?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+(Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog)&amp;utm_content=Bloglines" rel="nofollow"> in congressional districts that don&#8217;t exist</a> and which in other cases were <a href="http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2009/11/11/stimulus_fund_job_benefits_exaggerated_review_finds/?page=1" rel="nofollow">exaggerated by enormous proportions</a>.</p>
<p>But of course, as a good Obama shill, just like those &#8220;economists&#8221; quoted, and just like your fellow paid propagandist Tano, you will sit there and tell us that those jobs exist, that those congressional districts are really there, that giving a person a pay increase counts as a job &#8220;created or saved&#8221;, and that all of us are racists for not agreeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518511</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>questioned and discredited? lets look at how althouse&quot;discredits the nytimes: she links it to &quot;climategate&quot;. so althouse tenuously links the stimulus studies to a completely unrelated controversy, and you find that convincing? wow. what a triumph of ideology over reason. just because you disagree with it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>questioned and discredited? lets look at how althouse&#8221;discredits the nytimes: she links it to &#8220;climategate&#8221;. so althouse tenuously links the stimulus studies to a completely unrelated controversy, and you find that convincing? wow. what a triumph of ideology over reason. just because you disagree with it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Kalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518457</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven E. Kalbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this funny: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tomgpalmer.com/2009/12/05/our-hero/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Our Hero&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this funny: <a href="http://tomgpalmer.com/2009/12/05/our-hero/" rel="nofollow">Our Hero</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven E. Kalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518398</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven E. Kalbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Kodak is laying off again on 12/15/2009.  My neighbor works for Kodak, so this has been confirmed.  This is the second layoff this year for this company.  I suspect there will be others.  Hey, but you have a Merry Christmas Policy Failure lovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Kodak is laying off again on 12/15/2009.  My neighbor works for Kodak, so this has been confirmed.  This is the second layoff this year for this company.  I suspect there will be others.  Hey, but you have a Merry Christmas Policy Failure lovers.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518346</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 Tano writes:&lt;blockquote&gt;“And revenue legislation is exactly that, legislation. It originates in congress not on Pennsylvania Avenue.”

The Capitol is also on Pennsylvania Avenue (ever hear the phrase “both ends of Pennslyvania Avenue?) – and, if you think that revenue legislation starts in Congress (except in the purely technical sense of where a bill is formally introduced), then you know nothing about how Washington works.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Capitol Building Address:       
East Capitol Street, NE and 1st Street, NE      
Washington, DC 20002

White House Address:
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 456-1111

Pennsylvania Avenue terminates at the foot of the Capitol grounds. Hence, the Capitol is at the end of Pennsylvania Avenue, but not ON Pennsylvania Avenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 Tano writes:<br />
<blockquote>“And revenue legislation is exactly that, legislation. It originates in congress not on Pennsylvania Avenue.”</p>
<p>The Capitol is also on Pennsylvania Avenue (ever hear the phrase “both ends of Pennslyvania Avenue?) – and, if you think that revenue legislation starts in Congress (except in the purely technical sense of where a bill is formally introduced), then you know nothing about how Washington works.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Capitol Building Address:       <br />
East Capitol Street, NE and 1st Street, NE      <br />
Washington, DC 20002</p>
<p>White House Address:<br />
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW<br />
Washington, DC 20006<br />
(202) 456-1111</p>
<p>Pennsylvania Avenue terminates at the foot of the Capitol grounds. Hence, the Capitol is at the end of Pennsylvania Avenue, but not ON Pennsylvania Avenue.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518186</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, just new analysts. It was Republican as well as Democratic, and all the private-sector analysts as well who underestimated the effect of the crash.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh of course! Chairman Obama&#039;s shit smells like cinnamon rolls, I forgot. It&#039;s everybody else&#039;s fault and not the man who signed his name to massive debt and job destroying slush funds for his buddies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, just new analysts. It was Republican as well as Democratic, and all the private-sector analysts as well who underestimated the effect of the crash.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh of course! Chairman Obama&#8217;s shit smells like cinnamon rolls, I forgot. It&#8217;s everybody else&#8217;s fault and not the man who signed his name to massive debt and job destroying slush funds for his buddies.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518182</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, chad, that article isn&#039;t from earlier this week, it&#039;s more than two weeks old, has already been &lt;a href=&quot;http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-consensus-sees-stimulus-package-as.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;questioned&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2009/11/21/nyt-new-concensus-sees-stimulus-package-working rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discredited&lt;/a&gt;.  I mean, shouldn&#039;t the first clue be where it was published.

That&#039;s old news, very old news.

Ok, so you say, the stimulus is working, then where are the jobs?  How come economic growth is still well below the level that we normally see after a recession?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, chad, that article isn&#8217;t from earlier this week, it&#8217;s more than two weeks old, has already been <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-consensus-sees-stimulus-package-as.html" rel="nofollow">questioned</a> and <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2009/11/21/nyt-new-concensus-sees-stimulus-package-working rel="nofollow">discredited</a>.  I mean, shouldn&#8217;t the first clue be where it was published.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s old news, very old news.</p>
<p>Ok, so you say, the stimulus is working, then where are the jobs?  How come economic growth is still well below the level that we normally see after a recession?</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518117</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan, apparently you missed this article in the NY Times earlier this week. not that it will change your mind, but i&#039;ll pass it along anyway... 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/business/economy/21stimulus.html?_r=2&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1259092912-RtoLmvJIzy7nvx609EXwUg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan, apparently you missed this article in the NY Times earlier this week. not that it will change your mind, but i&#8217;ll pass it along anyway&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/business/economy/21stimulus.html?_r=2&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1259092912-RtoLmvJIzy7nvx609EXwUg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/business/economy/21stimulus.html?_r=2&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1259092912-RtoLmvJIzy7nvx609EXwUg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Shouldn’t that mean that we need new “analysts” and a new administration?&quot;

No, just new analysts. It was Republican as well as Democratic, and all the private-sector analysts as well who underestimated the effect of the crash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Shouldn’t that mean that we need new “analysts” and a new administration?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, just new analysts. It was Republican as well as Democratic, and all the private-sector analysts as well who underestimated the effect of the crash.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518048</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from the video I linked, 1:08:53 - spoken November 2006, yes 2006:&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We are way out of balance.  We&#039;re not going to have a little mild recession.  This is a major economic contraction that&#039;s coming.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from the video I linked, 1:08:53 &#8211; spoken November 2006, yes 2006:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;We are way out of balance.  We&#8217;re not going to have a little mild recession.  This is a major economic contraction that&#8217;s coming.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TGC #16 - Tano&#039;s comment is also a falsehood.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8rMwdQf6k&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not all analysts underestimated the impact that the financial crisis would have&lt;/a&gt; on our economy.  Some looked at our government&#039;s awful policies (yes SCR, under Bush-Greenspan as well as Obama-Pelosi-Bernanke) and predicted our current problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGC #16 &#8211; Tano&#8217;s comment is also a falsehood.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8rMwdQf6k" rel="nofollow">Not all analysts underestimated the impact that the financial crisis would have</a> on our economy.  Some looked at our government&#8217;s awful policies (yes SCR, under Bush-Greenspan as well as Obama-Pelosi-Bernanke) and predicted our current problems.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano - since my arguments are mere rants appropriate for little more than a fringe group, this is probably a waste of time.

The report you refer to says &quot;between 600,000 and 1.6 million jobs&quot; so there&#039;s a lot of uncertainty in that.

The fact remains that government spending at all levels has been wildly out of control. Spending in Collyfornia has grown at rates far higher than population and inflation would explain (40 percent since Ahnold assumed office).

San Diego is facing insolvency due to public employee pensions (given the number of cities with unfunded pension liabilities, it seems to me that public pensions are another shoe to drop). The USA Today article quotes Howard Jarvis as saying that if California was a fically prudent as San Diego, there&#039;d be no need for Prop. 13. That was then.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-10-24-sandiego-_x.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano &#8211; since my arguments are mere rants appropriate for little more than a fringe group, this is probably a waste of time.</p>
<p>The report you refer to says &#8220;between 600,000 and 1.6 million jobs&#8221; so there&#8217;s a lot of uncertainty in that.</p>
<p>The fact remains that government spending at all levels has been wildly out of control. Spending in Collyfornia has grown at rates far higher than population and inflation would explain (40 percent since Ahnold assumed office).</p>
<p>San Diego is facing insolvency due to public employee pensions (given the number of cities with unfunded pension liabilities, it seems to me that public pensions are another shoe to drop). The USA Today article quotes Howard Jarvis as saying that if California was a fically prudent as San Diego, there&#8217;d be no need for Prop. 13. That was then.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-10-24-sandiego-_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-10-24-sandiego-_x.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;All analysts, including the administration, underestimated the extent that the financial crisis would, in combination with the recession, so severely impact employment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shouldn&#039;t that mean that we need new &quot;analysts&quot; and a new administration? Only on the left is FAILURE rewarded with more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All analysts, including the administration, underestimated the extent that the financial crisis would, in combination with the recession, so severely impact employment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that mean that we need new &#8220;analysts&#8221; and a new administration? Only on the left is FAILURE rewarded with more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518025</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And revenue legislation is exactly that, legislation. It originates in congress not on Pennsylvania Avenue.&quot;

The Capitol is also on Pennsylvania Avenue (ever hear the phrase &quot;both ends of Pennslyvania Avenue?) - and, if you think that revenue legislation starts in Congress (except in the purely technical sense of where a bill is formally introduced), then you know nothing about how Washington works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And revenue legislation is exactly that, legislation. It originates in congress not on Pennsylvania Avenue.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Capitol is also on Pennsylvania Avenue (ever hear the phrase &#8220;both ends of Pennslyvania Avenue?) &#8211; and, if you think that revenue legislation starts in Congress (except in the purely technical sense of where a bill is formally introduced), then you know nothing about how Washington works.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/05/nancy-pelosi-blames-bush-for-stimulus-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-518024</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That being said, the “stimulus” is little more than another scam to shovel money into a government out of control. &quot;

You were going good for a while there, SoCal, but here you just fall back into the rant mode. No, the non-partisan CBO, whose objectivity has been heralded by the Republicans all autumn, they are the ones whose analysis said that the stimulus created upward of 1.6 million jobs. And the stimulus is obviously not a system to shovel money into government, but rather to shovel money out of government into the hands of companies that build our infrastructure - saving those companies from bankruptcy. 

&quot;The objection most conservatives have ... is that double-digit growth in spending is not sustainable.&quot;

And Obama would agree with you, in normal times. He believes that deficit spending, in a deadly recession such as this one, is necessary, and trumps the normal concern for deficits. In this, he is in agreement with most every economist in the country - including conservative ones. SUre, maybe a Republican president would have tried to weight the bill a bit more toward giving tax breaks to the wealthy, but massive deficit spending geared toward stimulating the economy, would have been carried out by any responsible administration.

Which is why the arguments that you make fall so flat, except with the fringe groups like the tea party people, or the pure GOP propagandists who value having talking points above having any sort of a coherent policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That being said, the “stimulus” is little more than another scam to shovel money into a government out of control. &#8221;</p>
<p>You were going good for a while there, SoCal, but here you just fall back into the rant mode. No, the non-partisan CBO, whose objectivity has been heralded by the Republicans all autumn, they are the ones whose analysis said that the stimulus created upward of 1.6 million jobs. And the stimulus is obviously not a system to shovel money into government, but rather to shovel money out of government into the hands of companies that build our infrastructure &#8211; saving those companies from bankruptcy. </p>
<p>&#8220;The objection most conservatives have &#8230; is that double-digit growth in spending is not sustainable.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Obama would agree with you, in normal times. He believes that deficit spending, in a deadly recession such as this one, is necessary, and trumps the normal concern for deficits. In this, he is in agreement with most every economist in the country &#8211; including conservative ones. SUre, maybe a Republican president would have tried to weight the bill a bit more toward giving tax breaks to the wealthy, but massive deficit spending geared toward stimulating the economy, would have been carried out by any responsible administration.</p>
<p>Which is why the arguments that you make fall so flat, except with the fringe groups like the tea party people, or the pure GOP propagandists who value having talking points above having any sort of a coherent policy.</p>
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