Margot Abels led the workshop, “What They Didn’t Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class: Workshop for Youth Only, Ages 14-21. “During the session she praised the homosexual practice of ‘fisting’”–widely condemned by medical authorities as dangerous–saying that, “It often gets a bad rap.”

“[W]e flew sort of below the radar screen for a long time,” Margot Abels told Boston’s homosexual newspaper, Bay Windows. She taught them sex because she thought she knew better than the parents what should be taught to the children.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080319151225.htm

http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/study-comprehensive-sex-ed-helps-reduce-pregnancies.aspx?googleid=30228

here is one supporting the AE crowd: (doing your work for you)
http://thesop.org/education/2009/11/07/study-data-does-not-show-comp-sex-ed-reduces-pregnancy-or-stds

I never learned fisting or “how to have sex” in my sex ed class. Just as V the K believes “absitenence only” is a myth, why do you believe these other ideas are not also myths, except for a few extreme examples such as Jennings (there are extremes of abstinence “only” I’m sure, since I’ve met plenty of people that believe in it).

That is not exactly the best plan.

I’ll tell you what exactly they grasp: Adults are telling me how to have sex. I can have sex.

Any point finer than that is lost in translation.

Thread winner.

Any point finer than that is lost in translation.

What in the world makes you think their grasp of sex education is any better?

Parents can teach morality and responsibility. But as someone said sex ed is really part of biology. There are plenty of issues related to sex my parents would simply not be qualified to teach. I can imagine 20 years ago the average parent telling his kid only gay people or drug addicts get AIDS, and the kid would have thought “I don’t need to worry.” Kids are certainly no more guaranteed to get good advice from their parents as they are from a teacher.

People may worry about what a school will teach, but the parent who worries about that certainly should be engaged enough to discuss these things with their kids. So i don’t see what’s wrong with arming kids with information to benefit those whose parents aren’t as involved or caring.

But the problem is she doesn’t. Her husband doesn’t. Republicans don’t. She supported her husband’s “ABC” policy, where A is, yes, for “abstinence” and B is for “be faithful” (in your marriage), but where C is for *gasp* condoms which are for use when one is, *gasp*, not abstaining.

Its just more liberal lies and demagoguery.

I agree that the abstinence only approach is foolish, but the fact that teens are having sex, still getting pregnant and getting STDs at higher rates than ever just proves that these classes are a waste of time. And in the meantime, they can’t read, and are lagging behind other countries in test scores.

How ’bout we forgetthe sex-ed and give ‘em an extra hour of real education?

Out of curiosity, why would you even comment on Adam Lambert? I kind of get sick of the media and people commenting on things they aren’t at all involved in. I don’t give a shit who Tiger Woods is fucking and the only people who Adam Lambert’s performance really affects are his fans. Maybe my Grandpa was right, opinions really are like assholes…

I fundamentally disagree with that. Sex education will increase awareness that safe sex is possible, then inevitably in real life, sex is not conducted safetly. The only way to be safe is not to have sex.

Also, sex education in a liberal educational environment will not decrease bad behavior. Only with like-minded parents and peers will result in moral behavior.

the past 2 centuries of prohibition should have proven to everyone that hiding facts, banning behavior, and similar tactics, does not work at keeping people from participating in that behavior. And in fact makes life more dangerous and worse for those that do than it would have been otherwise.

Mark Noonan points out teens are saturated with advice to engage in risky behavior, but that’s already the problem. Sex education won’t increase that problem, but rather decrease it.

When I was in school in the late 80s, it was not abstinence oriented, but we spent lots of time on STDs, on pregnancy, etc. Plenty of information to scare kids into being careful. While at the same time giving kids who will engage in sex information they need to increase their safety.

I thought there was not an actual thing as “abstinence only” also, until I met people who think it’s a good idea to not teach kids about sex at all, so I can imagine there are parents and teachers who do, in fact, teach just that.

It is sad that the average animal is better prepared for the risk of sex than our teenage kids. Female animals know what can happen and will resist sex and be extremely picky. Teenagers who are taught abstinence only do not get the same education and don’t know the risks.

Yes, we need to fight against all this going on almost all over Africa and the MidEast. But does anyone think our current President will?

This is the President who betrayed Poland to Russia. The President who refused to meet with the Dali Lama. Sure Bush was against gay marriage, but on the issues of human rights to life and liberty, he is far ahead of Obama. At least Bush didn’t make it a regular practice to screw over friends and allies and people in need in order to “reach out” to tyrants.

So what’s the deal, Tardo? Fishing for the gay Ugandan-American vote to help fill in for the folks preferring the Republican party?

He understands (but doesn’t want to admit) that he’s on the side of those who oppress freedom.

The current Adminsitration, which Tano supports, has supported the terrorists over the freedom loving people in the middle east, embraces dictators in central America, and wouldn’t get involved in Uganda anyway, since “No nation can dominate another” and human rights don’t matter.

Like I said here, the President promotes peace. “The peace of the opressor over the oppressed, the peace that comes from the death of liberty, the peace of the grave.”