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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; AGW Guru Pachauri is Economist, not Climate Scientist</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; AGW Guru Pachauri is Economist, not Climate Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So you’ll be calling for the resignation of any elected official who wants abstinence taught in the schools when, exactly?&lt;/i&gt;

So you oppose teaching children under the age of consent that they should not be having sex with adults?

Figures. Why is it that gay liberals demand that underage children be taught sexual techniques in schools? Is it because you think it&#039;s not rape if they&#039;ve been &quot;informed&quot; in advance when you force yourself on them? 

And of course, since you can&#039;t answer, you try smearing those who point out what you and your fellow NAMBLA supporters like Jennings do to children.

&lt;i&gt;Citing Gateway Pundit and Mass Resistance as your unimpeachable sources might impress the rubes who follow your every word, but in the real world, the world in which actual evidence and not mere claims count for something, your post here rates a fail.&lt;/i&gt;

And there has been ample evidence provided of how Jennings and the gay left believe in sexualizing underage children through the schools.

You simply are incapable of condemning pedophilia. That&#039;s your problem. One would think that you wouldn&#039;t have any trouble doing it if pedophilia weren&#039;t inherent to your sexual orientation, but the fact that liberal gays like yourself not only teach pedophilia, but demand that sexual techniques be taught to underage children, adamantly oppose teaching children not to have sex with adults, and refuse to report to the law cases in which gay people are having sex with underage children, makes it obvious that pedophilia and its support are inherent to being a gay liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So you’ll be calling for the resignation of any elected official who wants abstinence taught in the schools when, exactly?</i></p>
<p>So you oppose teaching children under the age of consent that they should not be having sex with adults?</p>
<p>Figures. Why is it that gay liberals demand that underage children be taught sexual techniques in schools? Is it because you think it&#8217;s not rape if they&#8217;ve been &#8220;informed&#8221; in advance when you force yourself on them? </p>
<p>And of course, since you can&#8217;t answer, you try smearing those who point out what you and your fellow NAMBLA supporters like Jennings do to children.</p>
<p><i>Citing Gateway Pundit and Mass Resistance as your unimpeachable sources might impress the rubes who follow your every word, but in the real world, the world in which actual evidence and not mere claims count for something, your post here rates a fail.</i></p>
<p>And there has been ample evidence provided of how Jennings and the gay left believe in sexualizing underage children through the schools.</p>
<p>You simply are incapable of condemning pedophilia. That&#8217;s your problem. One would think that you wouldn&#8217;t have any trouble doing it if pedophilia weren&#8217;t inherent to your sexual orientation, but the fact that liberal gays like yourself not only teach pedophilia, but demand that sexual techniques be taught to underage children, adamantly oppose teaching children not to have sex with adults, and refuse to report to the law cases in which gay people are having sex with underage children, makes it obvious that pedophilia and its support are inherent to being a gay liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-2/#comment-521786</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I had a kid, gay or straight, he would be homeschooled. I don’t want any stranger teaching my children about sexual matters. That’s my business.&quot;

So you&#039;ll be calling for the resignation of any elected official who wants abstinence taught in the schools when, exactly?  

Furthermore, when we follow the links from this site, to Gateway Pundit, to their ultimate source, we find Mass Resistance and Mass News, two organizations with a history of lies and deceit at their core.  Anyone remember Brian Carmenker&#039;s immortal &quot;a kid got beat up on the playground because his parents are anti-gay activists&quot; routine?  Of course not.  The irony is that the &quot;fisting&quot; kit portrayed at Mass News has an illustration showing its use as a dental dam for oral sex between lesbians.  The &quot;fisting&quot; claim is made up by those wishing to sensationalize this matter--&quot;ohhh...look at what those icky gays do!&quot;  But that&#039;s par for the conservative course.  Lie, lie, lie, sensationalize, demonize.  Citing Gateway Pundit and Mass Resistance as your unimpeachable sources might impress the rubes who follow your every word, but in the real world, the world in which actual evidence and not mere claims count for something, your post here rates a fail.  Nice work though, trying to get some of the crumbs from the wingnut gravy train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I had a kid, gay or straight, he would be homeschooled. I don’t want any stranger teaching my children about sexual matters. That’s my business.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;ll be calling for the resignation of any elected official who wants abstinence taught in the schools when, exactly?  </p>
<p>Furthermore, when we follow the links from this site, to Gateway Pundit, to their ultimate source, we find Mass Resistance and Mass News, two organizations with a history of lies and deceit at their core.  Anyone remember Brian Carmenker&#8217;s immortal &#8220;a kid got beat up on the playground because his parents are anti-gay activists&#8221; routine?  Of course not.  The irony is that the &#8220;fisting&#8221; kit portrayed at Mass News has an illustration showing its use as a dental dam for oral sex between lesbians.  The &#8220;fisting&#8221; claim is made up by those wishing to sensationalize this matter&#8211;&#8221;ohhh&#8230;look at what those icky gays do!&#8221;  But that&#8217;s par for the conservative course.  Lie, lie, lie, sensationalize, demonize.  Citing Gateway Pundit and Mass Resistance as your unimpeachable sources might impress the rubes who follow your every word, but in the real world, the world in which actual evidence and not mere claims count for something, your post here rates a fail.  Nice work though, trying to get some of the crumbs from the wingnut gravy train.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m a straight guy with three kids who works with lots of young people, and I can name one and probably two who are dead because of this attitude. Dead.
That’s on you.&lt;/i&gt;

Really?

I can name at least twenty people who are dead, twenty who are seriously disabled, and fifty who are medication-dependent for life due to HIV infection that they acquired through promiscuous sexual activity with older men during their teens.

That&#039;s on you.

But you don&#039;t care about those kids because you can&#039;t blame their deaths on conservatives, Republicans, and religious people. in fact, you openly state that you don&#039;t care if promiscuous pedophiles and child-sexualizers like Jennings damage children.

&lt;i&gt;The charge that Jennings is doing damage to kids isn’t real, &lt;b&gt;or if it is real it is vastly exaggerated as a tool for political gain&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://advocate.com/article.aspx?id=39985&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Oh, it&#039;s real all right&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;New HIV diagnoses for gay and bisexual men under the age of 30 have increased by one third over the past six years in New York City, according to the city&#039;s health department. Furthermore, new diagnoses have doubled among gay and bisexual men between the ages of 13 and 19, while the rate has declined by 22% for men over 30. &lt;/i&gt;

And this is in New York City, a liberal bastion in which GLSEN and their promiscuous-sex curriculum teaching gay teens how to fist, have sex with adults, and &quot;use a condom&quot; has been in place for years.

In short, you don&#039;t care that kids are being damaged by Jennings&#039;s behavior. You are dead-set on supporting Jennings, no matter what happens. You blabber about pedophiles being &quot;criminals&quot;, but when confronted with clear examples of gay pedophiles and pedophile supporters like Jennings, you refuse to criticize them or condemn their behavior, even as your support of sexualizing and preying on children leaves more and more of them dead, disabled, and drug-dependent.

Indeed, one wonders if the only thing that troubles you and Jennings about gay teens killing themselves is that it takes another trick out of your pool. You certainly don&#039;t seem to care about the ones you kill through your promotion and support of promiscuity; maybe it&#039;s because you were able to use them for your own gratification before they died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m a straight guy with three kids who works with lots of young people, and I can name one and probably two who are dead because of this attitude. Dead.<br />
That’s on you.</i></p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>I can name at least twenty people who are dead, twenty who are seriously disabled, and fifty who are medication-dependent for life due to HIV infection that they acquired through promiscuous sexual activity with older men during their teens.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s on you.</p>
<p>But you don&#8217;t care about those kids because you can&#8217;t blame their deaths on conservatives, Republicans, and religious people. in fact, you openly state that you don&#8217;t care if promiscuous pedophiles and child-sexualizers like Jennings damage children.</p>
<p><i>The charge that Jennings is doing damage to kids isn’t real, <b>or if it is real it is vastly exaggerated as a tool for political gain</b>.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://advocate.com/article.aspx?id=39985" rel="nofollow"> Oh, it&#8217;s real all right</a>.</p>
<p><i>New HIV diagnoses for gay and bisexual men under the age of 30 have increased by one third over the past six years in New York City, according to the city&#8217;s health department. Furthermore, new diagnoses have doubled among gay and bisexual men between the ages of 13 and 19, while the rate has declined by 22% for men over 30. </i></p>
<p>And this is in New York City, a liberal bastion in which GLSEN and their promiscuous-sex curriculum teaching gay teens how to fist, have sex with adults, and &#8220;use a condom&#8221; has been in place for years.</p>
<p>In short, you don&#8217;t care that kids are being damaged by Jennings&#8217;s behavior. You are dead-set on supporting Jennings, no matter what happens. You blabber about pedophiles being &#8220;criminals&#8221;, but when confronted with clear examples of gay pedophiles and pedophile supporters like Jennings, you refuse to criticize them or condemn their behavior, even as your support of sexualizing and preying on children leaves more and more of them dead, disabled, and drug-dependent.</p>
<p>Indeed, one wonders if the only thing that troubles you and Jennings about gay teens killing themselves is that it takes another trick out of your pool. You certainly don&#8217;t seem to care about the ones you kill through your promotion and support of promiscuity; maybe it&#8217;s because you were able to use them for your own gratification before they died.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#53: &quot;By the way, I don’t split hairs over Jennings’ famous moment with the drivers-license kid. Faced with an individual actual human being in that situation, you would do the same thing, or you’re a bastard.&quot;

So, a 15-year-old boy informs a teacher that he was picked up in a bus station restroom by an adult man who took him home and had sex with him and the only non-bastard way to deal with that scenario is to say to the kid, &quot;I hope you used a condom&quot;?  Fascinating.  Since you &quot;work with lots of young people,&quot; what&#039;s the non-son-of-a-bitch way of handling it, ice9?  Handing the kid a pack of Trojans and a bottle of poppers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53: &#8220;By the way, I don’t split hairs over Jennings’ famous moment with the drivers-license kid. Faced with an individual actual human being in that situation, you would do the same thing, or you’re a bastard.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, a 15-year-old boy informs a teacher that he was picked up in a bus station restroom by an adult man who took him home and had sex with him and the only non-bastard way to deal with that scenario is to say to the kid, &#8220;I hope you used a condom&#8221;?  Fascinating.  Since you &#8220;work with lots of young people,&#8221; what&#8217;s the non-son-of-a-bitch way of handling it, ice9?  Handing the kid a pack of Trojans and a bottle of poppers?</p>
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		<title>By: ice9</title>
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		<dc:creator>ice9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a straight guy with three kids and no fisting, though I&#039;m flattered that I came off as gay.  I vote for some republicans (though not lately since my choices have been pretty scary crazy death-to-fags types.)  I favor honest political arguments over hatred, especially when the dishonest ugly hatred has real consequences upon innocent folk.  I waste my time in these jabbery forums because I frequently find myself involved in this conundrum with real people and real, often life-or-death problems around homosexuality, and this is good practice at working through the logic and testing it against principle.  
To be clear:  I don&#039;t care a bit about whether your panties are bunching over being called a self-hating gay.  That&#039;s your lookout, and as a rather active participant in your own comment thread you can take care of your own delicate structures of opinion.  PS your demands for being shown things remind me of the playground at Wakefield Forest, where as a third grader I was more than once called “gay” by Christians.   Didn’t understand it then but it still hurt.
I care about dead kids, and this conversation is a symptom of the disease that kills them.  Get that?  Ken Jennings may somewhere have increased the chance that a high school boy has at this moment a fist up his ass.  Stipulated.  Jennings is gay in a position of authority; he helps kids come out.  You and your commenters don’t like that; the argument seems to (or should) be whether that is permitted or discouraged.  Getting Jennings fired is the scalp-collecting tactic of the moment in your insurgency against the Obama administration; I think it’s cowardly and ugly and I think folks who do it are dicks.
To get Jennings fired and rack up your victory, you have to edge fairly close to being an out-and-out gay hater; that leads to the sideshow about whether our host hates himself.  Who cares; that’s secondary to the fact that gay haters kill kids.  This is obvious to me, but conflicts rather dramatically with your logic that Jennings hurts kids by gaying them up.  And conflicts with your alleged attraction to Jesus, but the hypocrisy there is foundational and can wait.   
I’d guess Jennings himself has made a calculation that fist-in-ass beats suicide, or something like that, but again, he’s just one person, so it’s both irrelevant and unimportant.  My interest is in calling gay haters bigots and proving the point, and when possible pointing out to the most rational and attentive of them that they are a party to suicides that look a lot like murders .  This may be hyperbole but is not false.  Gay haters such as the people in this thread kill kids by confining them to a closed space where there are only three exits--become comfortably gay, stop being gay, or shoot yourself in the head with Dad&#039;s second-amendment pistol.  In each individual’s case—there’s that individual vs. group thing again—we can’t exactly know what’s best.  Stipulated.  Sometimes the best thing for a kid is being gay; sometimes not.  Never the bullet, though.  Nevertheless,  there’s a lot of death going on.  I&#039;m a straight guy with three kids who works with lots of young people, and I can name one and probably two who are dead because of this attitude.  Dead.
That&#039;s on you.
By the way, I don’t split hairs over Jennings’ famous moment with the drivers-license kid.  Faced with an individual actual human being in that situation, you would do the same thing, or you’re a bastard.  Kids in distress don’t do preaching; usually preaching has already not worked.   Sexual uncertainty is a powerful engine.  Leviticus don’t stop a bullet, or a fist for that matter.  The rampant, oblivious hypocrisy of anti-gay arguments is a grotesque crime against the three gay-confused-uncertain kids who kill themselves for every one kid who kills himself for other reasons (and gay fear, of course, figures secretly in many of those ones.)  In other words, your much-vaunted principle is a crap argument when confronted with a kid whose parents are, well, you, and who has no exit.  I have been in that situation a time or two, but I can report happily that, at least on the real kid/real parent level, that isn’t happening as much these days; fewer parents are, well, you when the actual situation arises; they go to love over hate.  All the more reason to call out the haters when they make their masturbatory declarations in forums such as this one, which are comfortably removed from real decisions.  I only hope that we can reduce the suicide rate, and bring the more grotesquely benighted regions of the nation into a more rational way of thinking before many more die.  Jennings, and Milk, and Dan Savage, are in large part responsible for the more love/less hate problem solving going on.  Jennings’ firing  would therefore  hinder my hope to keep a bunch of real live kids alive.
So, to review for the slower students:  when you aim at one person and derive a rationale for bigotry against a group on that basis you are making a parody of logic, of a rule of law, of journalism, or of an entire politic based on equality and liberty.  If you happen to be attacking yourself in that process, that&#039;s a second level of bonus parody (I&#039;d call it irony, but we settled on parody so there it is.)  
If what you derive is built on shaky grounds, that&#039;s a third level.  Not saying Jennings or somebody somewhere didn&#039;t do something inappropriate--folk got fired, after all--but that&#039;s still shaky grounds to condemn a whole program, a whole idea, a whole class of people that seem to keep appearing, unrecruited, in the same proportions, no matter what you do.  
But you do derive, and condemn; so what do we get, what exactly?  Fire Jennings before he uses his position to do some unspecified damage to kids who are already at deep risk of etc. etc. etc.  Clear and present threats--the right is seldom so shy about acting on them, law-and-ordering stuff three deep.  But now why so coy?
Fire Jennings, then, and appoint someone else.  Jennings was the problem, you say.  The most sanitized, straight-acting gay guy in that same position is still going to face ginned-up charges and conflation of icky gay stuff with every move he ever made and every move he makes.  Why indeed?  
The charge that Jennings is doing damage to kids isn&#039;t real, or if it is real it is vastly exaggerated as a tool for political gain.  Just like in the abortion debate, the idea of the threat is a political weapon, but if we&#039;re actually going to, say, criminalize abortion or fire gay schoolteachers then the reduction to absurdity you are guilty of will look fairly pathetic in the light of the voting booth so you don’t do that, do you.  It’s a loser.  So you split hairs and try to hang individuals to claim the same effect.  Makes you dishonest bastards, not just bastards.  (you’d be more honest to call for their stoning deaths, and there’s no shortage of people doing that.  But that would be impolitic! )
“Pedophiles who want to sexualize elementary school kids”—I could not have created a better example in my wildest fevered imagination.  Pedophiles are criminals; no pedophiles have been mentioned in this discussion.  You mean, of course, all or some mysterious proportion of regular gay people.  Under the hyperbole regular gay persons who are nothing like what you describe, who are quite normal in all respects, who are completely deserving of freedom from your (the entire right wing, choose any politician, you-you, all of you) character assassination, who pay taxes and don’t want to sexualize anybody because they understand that human beings sexualize themselves.  
This fantasy of gay danger has been gospel standard for centuries now, but it is still fake and ugly; you who purvey it benefit from a general trend to accept it because it’s been gospel standard for so long.  I certainly see why you feel aggrieved as the nation moves past it, but that doesn’t excuse the weaseling and caviling, the parody of a civil discussion, the pretension to honesty and logic and proof.  
Salud
Ice9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a straight guy with three kids and no fisting, though I&#8217;m flattered that I came off as gay.  I vote for some republicans (though not lately since my choices have been pretty scary crazy death-to-fags types.)  I favor honest political arguments over hatred, especially when the dishonest ugly hatred has real consequences upon innocent folk.  I waste my time in these jabbery forums because I frequently find myself involved in this conundrum with real people and real, often life-or-death problems around homosexuality, and this is good practice at working through the logic and testing it against principle.<br />
To be clear:  I don&#8217;t care a bit about whether your panties are bunching over being called a self-hating gay.  That&#8217;s your lookout, and as a rather active participant in your own comment thread you can take care of your own delicate structures of opinion.  PS your demands for being shown things remind me of the playground at Wakefield Forest, where as a third grader I was more than once called “gay” by Christians.   Didn’t understand it then but it still hurt.<br />
I care about dead kids, and this conversation is a symptom of the disease that kills them.  Get that?  Ken Jennings may somewhere have increased the chance that a high school boy has at this moment a fist up his ass.  Stipulated.  Jennings is gay in a position of authority; he helps kids come out.  You and your commenters don’t like that; the argument seems to (or should) be whether that is permitted or discouraged.  Getting Jennings fired is the scalp-collecting tactic of the moment in your insurgency against the Obama administration; I think it’s cowardly and ugly and I think folks who do it are dicks.<br />
To get Jennings fired and rack up your victory, you have to edge fairly close to being an out-and-out gay hater; that leads to the sideshow about whether our host hates himself.  Who cares; that’s secondary to the fact that gay haters kill kids.  This is obvious to me, but conflicts rather dramatically with your logic that Jennings hurts kids by gaying them up.  And conflicts with your alleged attraction to Jesus, but the hypocrisy there is foundational and can wait.<br />
I’d guess Jennings himself has made a calculation that fist-in-ass beats suicide, or something like that, but again, he’s just one person, so it’s both irrelevant and unimportant.  My interest is in calling gay haters bigots and proving the point, and when possible pointing out to the most rational and attentive of them that they are a party to suicides that look a lot like murders .  This may be hyperbole but is not false.  Gay haters such as the people in this thread kill kids by confining them to a closed space where there are only three exits&#8211;become comfortably gay, stop being gay, or shoot yourself in the head with Dad&#8217;s second-amendment pistol.  In each individual’s case—there’s that individual vs. group thing again—we can’t exactly know what’s best.  Stipulated.  Sometimes the best thing for a kid is being gay; sometimes not.  Never the bullet, though.  Nevertheless,  there’s a lot of death going on.  I&#8217;m a straight guy with three kids who works with lots of young people, and I can name one and probably two who are dead because of this attitude.  Dead.<br />
That&#8217;s on you.<br />
By the way, I don’t split hairs over Jennings’ famous moment with the drivers-license kid.  Faced with an individual actual human being in that situation, you would do the same thing, or you’re a bastard.  Kids in distress don’t do preaching; usually preaching has already not worked.   Sexual uncertainty is a powerful engine.  Leviticus don’t stop a bullet, or a fist for that matter.  The rampant, oblivious hypocrisy of anti-gay arguments is a grotesque crime against the three gay-confused-uncertain kids who kill themselves for every one kid who kills himself for other reasons (and gay fear, of course, figures secretly in many of those ones.)  In other words, your much-vaunted principle is a crap argument when confronted with a kid whose parents are, well, you, and who has no exit.  I have been in that situation a time or two, but I can report happily that, at least on the real kid/real parent level, that isn’t happening as much these days; fewer parents are, well, you when the actual situation arises; they go to love over hate.  All the more reason to call out the haters when they make their masturbatory declarations in forums such as this one, which are comfortably removed from real decisions.  I only hope that we can reduce the suicide rate, and bring the more grotesquely benighted regions of the nation into a more rational way of thinking before many more die.  Jennings, and Milk, and Dan Savage, are in large part responsible for the more love/less hate problem solving going on.  Jennings’ firing  would therefore  hinder my hope to keep a bunch of real live kids alive.<br />
So, to review for the slower students:  when you aim at one person and derive a rationale for bigotry against a group on that basis you are making a parody of logic, of a rule of law, of journalism, or of an entire politic based on equality and liberty.  If you happen to be attacking yourself in that process, that&#8217;s a second level of bonus parody (I&#8217;d call it irony, but we settled on parody so there it is.)<br />
If what you derive is built on shaky grounds, that&#8217;s a third level.  Not saying Jennings or somebody somewhere didn&#8217;t do something inappropriate&#8211;folk got fired, after all&#8211;but that&#8217;s still shaky grounds to condemn a whole program, a whole idea, a whole class of people that seem to keep appearing, unrecruited, in the same proportions, no matter what you do.<br />
But you do derive, and condemn; so what do we get, what exactly?  Fire Jennings before he uses his position to do some unspecified damage to kids who are already at deep risk of etc. etc. etc.  Clear and present threats&#8211;the right is seldom so shy about acting on them, law-and-ordering stuff three deep.  But now why so coy?<br />
Fire Jennings, then, and appoint someone else.  Jennings was the problem, you say.  The most sanitized, straight-acting gay guy in that same position is still going to face ginned-up charges and conflation of icky gay stuff with every move he ever made and every move he makes.  Why indeed?<br />
The charge that Jennings is doing damage to kids isn&#8217;t real, or if it is real it is vastly exaggerated as a tool for political gain.  Just like in the abortion debate, the idea of the threat is a political weapon, but if we&#8217;re actually going to, say, criminalize abortion or fire gay schoolteachers then the reduction to absurdity you are guilty of will look fairly pathetic in the light of the voting booth so you don’t do that, do you.  It’s a loser.  So you split hairs and try to hang individuals to claim the same effect.  Makes you dishonest bastards, not just bastards.  (you’d be more honest to call for their stoning deaths, and there’s no shortage of people doing that.  But that would be impolitic! )<br />
“Pedophiles who want to sexualize elementary school kids”—I could not have created a better example in my wildest fevered imagination.  Pedophiles are criminals; no pedophiles have been mentioned in this discussion.  You mean, of course, all or some mysterious proportion of regular gay people.  Under the hyperbole regular gay persons who are nothing like what you describe, who are quite normal in all respects, who are completely deserving of freedom from your (the entire right wing, choose any politician, you-you, all of you) character assassination, who pay taxes and don’t want to sexualize anybody because they understand that human beings sexualize themselves.<br />
This fantasy of gay danger has been gospel standard for centuries now, but it is still fake and ugly; you who purvey it benefit from a general trend to accept it because it’s been gospel standard for so long.  I certainly see why you feel aggrieved as the nation moves past it, but that doesn’t excuse the weaseling and caviling, the parody of a civil discussion, the pretension to honesty and logic and proof.<br />
Salud<br />
Ice9</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-2/#comment-521064</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;For those of you who operate under the assumption that homosexuality is strange, bizarre, or unnatural, it is clear that any “measured” discussion is impossible.&lt;/i&gt;

When gay liberals like yourself argue that it is synonymous with teaching fisting to underage children, &lt;a href=&quot;http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/news/004352.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; taking children to sex fairs dressed as sexual slaves for an &quot;educational experience&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; demanding that children as young as five be taught gay sex&lt;/a&gt;, then yes, it IS &quot;strange, bizarre, or unnatural&quot;.

The problem here, ice9, is that gays like yourself, Jennings, and your friends over at Media Matters simply can&#039;t bring themselves to be open about their need to sexualize and have sex with underage children, and instead need to try to smokescreen it by claiming that all homosexuals do this. Then, in a charming attempt to make sure that no one disagrees with you, you&#039;ve started this whole screaming fit that, if you object, self-loathing gay. Not unlike how your fellow liberals insist that, if you don&#039;t support government-controlled health care, you&#039;re not really black, or if you don&#039;t worship Barack Obama, you&#039;re an &quot;oreo&quot;, &quot;house slave&quot;, and &quot;Uncle Tom&quot;. In the world of liberal bigotry, homosexuality isn&#039;t confined to simply to whom you&#039;re attracted; it&#039;s an all-over experience that dictates what you breathe, wear, eat, support, endorse, spend your money on, and vote.

The amusing thing is that gays like yourself and Dr Zen insist that we turn the other way and not judge pedophiles who want to sexualize elementary-school kids, but then wonder why people don&#039;t think gays should teach in schools, adopt children, be in law enforcement, or hold elective office. You simply are making it clear that your sexual orientation is incompatible with life in a civilized society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For those of you who operate under the assumption that homosexuality is strange, bizarre, or unnatural, it is clear that any “measured” discussion is impossible.</i></p>
<p>When gay liberals like yourself argue that it is synonymous with teaching fisting to underage children, <a href="http://xpress.sfsu.edu/archives/news/004352.html" rel="nofollow"> taking children to sex fairs dressed as sexual slaves for an &#8220;educational experience&#8221;</a>, and <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay" rel="nofollow"> demanding that children as young as five be taught gay sex</a>, then yes, it IS &#8220;strange, bizarre, or unnatural&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem here, ice9, is that gays like yourself, Jennings, and your friends over at Media Matters simply can&#8217;t bring themselves to be open about their need to sexualize and have sex with underage children, and instead need to try to smokescreen it by claiming that all homosexuals do this. Then, in a charming attempt to make sure that no one disagrees with you, you&#8217;ve started this whole screaming fit that, if you object, self-loathing gay. Not unlike how your fellow liberals insist that, if you don&#8217;t support government-controlled health care, you&#8217;re not really black, or if you don&#8217;t worship Barack Obama, you&#8217;re an &#8220;oreo&#8221;, &#8220;house slave&#8221;, and &#8220;Uncle Tom&#8221;. In the world of liberal bigotry, homosexuality isn&#8217;t confined to simply to whom you&#8217;re attracted; it&#8217;s an all-over experience that dictates what you breathe, wear, eat, support, endorse, spend your money on, and vote.</p>
<p>The amusing thing is that gays like yourself and Dr Zen insist that we turn the other way and not judge pedophiles who want to sexualize elementary-school kids, but then wonder why people don&#8217;t think gays should teach in schools, adopt children, be in law enforcement, or hold elective office. You simply are making it clear that your sexual orientation is incompatible with life in a civilized society.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-2/#comment-521061</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The same people never notice the frequent parallel outrages committed in the heterosexual population.&lt;/i&gt; 

Feel free to point out these outrages, and watch how quickly you find out that condemnation of pedophiles is universal regardless of their sexual orientation -- except among gay liberals, of course. But for some reason, poor Media Matters is never able to do that; instead, they sit there like a whining child who is claiming that everyone else&#039;s mother lets them smoke crack.

Meanwhile, as for Media Matters, the simple fact is that Media Matters is paid to lie about and propagandize against conservatives, just as they did when they publicized and pushed the forged Bush ANG documents, just as they did when they spread the Barack Obama lie that Trig Palin is not Sarah Palin&#039;s son, and that Kevin Jennings was &quot;proved&quot; right when they produced a photo of a fake ID with no picture, no name, no address, no number, and a random birth date with no ability to link it to any specific person, living or dead. It&#039;s not the facts; it&#039;s the need to attack and try to destroy conservatives over imaginary slights, while ignoring the real behaviors their fellow Bushitler screamers are doing, that makes them such a laughably-hilarious modern counterpart of Goebbels and Baghdad Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The same people never notice the frequent parallel outrages committed in the heterosexual population.</i> </p>
<p>Feel free to point out these outrages, and watch how quickly you find out that condemnation of pedophiles is universal regardless of their sexual orientation &#8212; except among gay liberals, of course. But for some reason, poor Media Matters is never able to do that; instead, they sit there like a whining child who is claiming that everyone else&#8217;s mother lets them smoke crack.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, as for Media Matters, the simple fact is that Media Matters is paid to lie about and propagandize against conservatives, just as they did when they publicized and pushed the forged Bush ANG documents, just as they did when they spread the Barack Obama lie that Trig Palin is not Sarah Palin&#8217;s son, and that Kevin Jennings was &#8220;proved&#8221; right when they produced a photo of a fake ID with no picture, no name, no address, no number, and a random birth date with no ability to link it to any specific person, living or dead. It&#8217;s not the facts; it&#8217;s the need to attack and try to destroy conservatives over imaginary slights, while ignoring the real behaviors their fellow Bushitler screamers are doing, that makes them such a laughably-hilarious modern counterpart of Goebbels and Baghdad Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-521060</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Amy, guess I wasn&#039;t the only one.  :-)

Thanks!</description>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Zen and ice9, great parodies of liberals.  You almost had me convinced.  You might tone it down just a little.  It was just a little too over the top to be completely believable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Zen and ice9, great parodies of liberals.  You almost had me convinced.  You might tone it down just a little.  It was just a little too over the top to be completely believable.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, ice, so if my blog post is a parody, as you claim, please show how this is so.  You&#039;ve posted to my blog and leveled an accusation, so back it up.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, ice, so if my blog post is a parody, as you claim, please show how this is so.  You&#8217;ve posted to my blog and leveled an accusation, so back it up.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ice9</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-521024</link>
		<dc:creator>ice9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD--he didn&#039;t call you a self-hating gay.  He described your parody, the doubly dishonest process of feeding the great Troll of other-hatred that powers the right, while at the same time offering yourself as a true believer of some miracle of bothness, both conservative and gay.  The math suggests self-hatred, since conservatives hate gays and you are gay.  That&#039;s neither here nor there to me, since my philosophy is (as I suggest it should be for all) to leave folk alone to their own business.  But if you feed that Troll its best dish, that concoction of fearmongering and titillation that won the 2004 election and continues to cause mayhem and pain among reasonable and worthy American citizens, then the only question is why you would do it.  It&#039;s obvious that it&#039;s contemptible.

Two options suggest themselves.  One of course is the idea that you are above the fray, an idealist (a Patriot, perhaps? Oh, how hot!)  That suggests principle, altruism, etc.  I suppose it&#039;s a possibility, but your foamy exgurgitations and malleable logic suggest otherwise.  the good Dr. and I think another option is more likely--that you are a limited person who sees no contradiction in these views, and so contorts freely and happily toward the conclusion that will keep the commenters, who by the way hate and fear you according to their doctrine, happily though cautiously approving.  See, in ConservativeLand, one counterexample is sufficient to void an entire class of people into second-class anything.  

That&#039;s not &quot;showing how&quot;--a childish demand anyway.  Show me how you&#039;re not a Dick--That&#039;s just Occam.  You&#039;re hopeless.  If you tomorrow strip your gears and come across to Code Pink, I wouldn&#039;t care, because it&#039;s not about individuals.  It&#039;s about community, country, and law.  In a judicious discussion of reversing a multimillenial injustice, you&#039;re the person who argues for maintaining that injustice, and does it with inflammatory, hairsplitting character assassination based on wrong facts.  That you are yourself gay is simply irrelevant.  It&#039;s not that you hate yourself; it&#039;s that you hate other people who are evidently more deserving than yourself of unqualified membership in our society.

Zen--how&#039;d I do?

ice9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD&#8211;he didn&#8217;t call you a self-hating gay.  He described your parody, the doubly dishonest process of feeding the great Troll of other-hatred that powers the right, while at the same time offering yourself as a true believer of some miracle of bothness, both conservative and gay.  The math suggests self-hatred, since conservatives hate gays and you are gay.  That&#8217;s neither here nor there to me, since my philosophy is (as I suggest it should be for all) to leave folk alone to their own business.  But if you feed that Troll its best dish, that concoction of fearmongering and titillation that won the 2004 election and continues to cause mayhem and pain among reasonable and worthy American citizens, then the only question is why you would do it.  It&#8217;s obvious that it&#8217;s contemptible.</p>
<p>Two options suggest themselves.  One of course is the idea that you are above the fray, an idealist (a Patriot, perhaps? Oh, how hot!)  That suggests principle, altruism, etc.  I suppose it&#8217;s a possibility, but your foamy exgurgitations and malleable logic suggest otherwise.  the good Dr. and I think another option is more likely&#8211;that you are a limited person who sees no contradiction in these views, and so contorts freely and happily toward the conclusion that will keep the commenters, who by the way hate and fear you according to their doctrine, happily though cautiously approving.  See, in ConservativeLand, one counterexample is sufficient to void an entire class of people into second-class anything.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not &#8220;showing how&#8221;&#8211;a childish demand anyway.  Show me how you&#8217;re not a Dick&#8211;That&#8217;s just Occam.  You&#8217;re hopeless.  If you tomorrow strip your gears and come across to Code Pink, I wouldn&#8217;t care, because it&#8217;s not about individuals.  It&#8217;s about community, country, and law.  In a judicious discussion of reversing a multimillenial injustice, you&#8217;re the person who argues for maintaining that injustice, and does it with inflammatory, hairsplitting character assassination based on wrong facts.  That you are yourself gay is simply irrelevant.  It&#8217;s not that you hate yourself; it&#8217;s that you hate other people who are evidently more deserving than yourself of unqualified membership in our society.</p>
<p>Zen&#8211;how&#8217;d I do?</p>
<p>ice9</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Zen, please show me how I&#039;m a self-hating gay.  Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-520993</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *love* your ongoing parody of homophobes in your character as the self-hating gay. It&#039;s hilarious! I particularly enjoyed this post. You know that the assorted homophobes and ninnies who take you seriously will lap up the concept that all gays are obsessed with sex and think it&#039;s all about fisting and buttbanging rather than kissing and flowers and nice wine, like we all know it is. The idea of a gay man who spends hours of his life reinforcing hatred of gay men is hilarious, and you&#039;re to be commended for the lengths you have gone to to parody the homophobia that poisons American discourse. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *love* your ongoing parody of homophobes in your character as the self-hating gay. It&#8217;s hilarious! I particularly enjoyed this post. You know that the assorted homophobes and ninnies who take you seriously will lap up the concept that all gays are obsessed with sex and think it&#8217;s all about fisting and buttbanging rather than kissing and flowers and nice wine, like we all know it is. The idea of a gay man who spends hours of his life reinforcing hatred of gay men is hilarious, and you&#8217;re to be commended for the lengths you have gone to to parody the homophobia that poisons American discourse. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: ice9</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-520935</link>
		<dc:creator>ice9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Variety of idiocies.

For those of you who operate under the assumption that homosexuality is strange, bizarre, or unnatural, it is clear that any &quot;measured&quot; discussion is impossible.  That goes for the host of the blog, who by his acquiescence to the claim disqualifies himself from any journalism about it.  This is logical by the same mechanics  you use to condemn Jennings himself.  If gay people are dangerous, we must act.  If they are in any way or in any proportion a threat to, say young children or livestock or patriotic statuary, then you should promulgate a law to jail or execute them or otherwise curb that awful behavior.  Instead we see this middle road, where gay activists are pilloried for various minor infractions or faked-up outrages.  The same people never notice the frequent parallel outrages committed in the heterosexual population.  Why such an interest in gay people? Why the histrionics?  Answer:  the people you despise as individuals are proxies for the class or group.  That is bigotry, by definition.  You are bigots.

&quot;Media Matters is unreliable.&quot;  So too must be any source which contradicts the pattern of wisdom?  All, or just one?  Because Media Matters is not alone in, for example, demonstrating that the Jennings allegations are hairsplitting at the very worst, and complete BS in average. 
No, what you mean is Media Matters stings.  It&#039;s perfectly reliable, though like many news organizations its articles create controversy and they are not always (nor do they ever claim to be) the arbiters of perfect truth.  MM makes a convincing case that you (ie archetypal archconservative haters) live in a strange world clogged with biases, claims, and assumptions that are materially and obviously false.  (that, by the way, is also a kind of bigotry if we call it bigotry to despise people who lie and quibble to destroy reputations and therefore create political power.)   If you don&#039;t think or &#039;believe&#039; that you are operating on lies, then MM is going to need to be ignored or explained away.  Easily done in a closed chamber such as a minor political blog with a sycophantic comment line. 
MM does feature commentary, but most entries are documented and sourced and consist of the presentation of two simple pieces of information--typically a clip or excerpt from a show or article placed next to evidence of some weakness or fault.  It takes a major leap of arrogance to wave that away as unreliable; it&#039;s quite simple.  If you believe fundamentally that, say, Glenn Beck is always right, then MM is either unreliable or you are a psychopath.  A simple evaluation of fact renders the &quot;MM is unreliable&quot; claim not just false, but clear evidence that you are unhinged.  
If you don&#039;t want to be contradicted by Media Matters, then I suggest you avoid subscribing to concepts, like the Jennings smear or &quot;death panels&quot; or the like, that are so easily and completely debunked.

ice9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Variety of idiocies.</p>
<p>For those of you who operate under the assumption that homosexuality is strange, bizarre, or unnatural, it is clear that any &#8220;measured&#8221; discussion is impossible.  That goes for the host of the blog, who by his acquiescence to the claim disqualifies himself from any journalism about it.  This is logical by the same mechanics  you use to condemn Jennings himself.  If gay people are dangerous, we must act.  If they are in any way or in any proportion a threat to, say young children or livestock or patriotic statuary, then you should promulgate a law to jail or execute them or otherwise curb that awful behavior.  Instead we see this middle road, where gay activists are pilloried for various minor infractions or faked-up outrages.  The same people never notice the frequent parallel outrages committed in the heterosexual population.  Why such an interest in gay people? Why the histrionics?  Answer:  the people you despise as individuals are proxies for the class or group.  That is bigotry, by definition.  You are bigots.</p>
<p>&#8220;Media Matters is unreliable.&#8221;  So too must be any source which contradicts the pattern of wisdom?  All, or just one?  Because Media Matters is not alone in, for example, demonstrating that the Jennings allegations are hairsplitting at the very worst, and complete BS in average.<br />
No, what you mean is Media Matters stings.  It&#8217;s perfectly reliable, though like many news organizations its articles create controversy and they are not always (nor do they ever claim to be) the arbiters of perfect truth.  MM makes a convincing case that you (ie archetypal archconservative haters) live in a strange world clogged with biases, claims, and assumptions that are materially and obviously false.  (that, by the way, is also a kind of bigotry if we call it bigotry to despise people who lie and quibble to destroy reputations and therefore create political power.)   If you don&#8217;t think or &#8216;believe&#8217; that you are operating on lies, then MM is going to need to be ignored or explained away.  Easily done in a closed chamber such as a minor political blog with a sycophantic comment line.<br />
MM does feature commentary, but most entries are documented and sourced and consist of the presentation of two simple pieces of information&#8211;typically a clip or excerpt from a show or article placed next to evidence of some weakness or fault.  It takes a major leap of arrogance to wave that away as unreliable; it&#8217;s quite simple.  If you believe fundamentally that, say, Glenn Beck is always right, then MM is either unreliable or you are a psychopath.  A simple evaluation of fact renders the &#8220;MM is unreliable&#8221; claim not just false, but clear evidence that you are unhinged.<br />
If you don&#8217;t want to be contradicted by Media Matters, then I suggest you avoid subscribing to concepts, like the Jennings smear or &#8220;death panels&#8221; or the like, that are so easily and completely debunked.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; On the Kevin Jennings&#8217; Kerfuffle &#38; the Silence of the MSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; On the Kevin Jennings&#8217; Kerfuffle &#38; the Silence of the MSM</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] other night, when finishing this post, I wanted to confirm two things I had seen on the web earlier in the day.  For one, the question [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-520296</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, when I see Britney Spears, I think &quot;I can kinda, sorta, maybe see a tiny little bit of Osama bin Laden&#039;s point.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: OldNuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldNuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The root cause of this little &quot;problem&quot; is the original decision that the public schools should be teaching sex education.  It is the responsibility of the parents to teach this.  Sex education is not a valid function of the public school system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The root cause of this little &#8220;problem&#8221; is the original decision that the public schools should be teaching sex education.  It is the responsibility of the parents to teach this.  Sex education is not a valid function of the public school system.</p>
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		<title>By: FEDupwithhypersexualizationofourkids</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-520237</link>
		<dc:creator>FEDupwithhypersexualizationofourkids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on ANYONE who thinks GLSEN&#039;s curriculum in our schools is in anyway appropriate for children. It is our moral obligation to protect the innocence of our children, to preserve their right to a childhood, no matter WHAT their orientation. Get these lunatics away from our kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on ANYONE who thinks GLSEN&#8217;s curriculum in our schools is in anyway appropriate for children. It is our moral obligation to protect the innocence of our children, to preserve their right to a childhood, no matter WHAT their orientation. Get these lunatics away from our kids!</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/09/20024/comment-page-1/#comment-520235</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s worse, Trish, is that so many gay activists are like Tim, and won&#039;t even say to themselves, &quot;Gosh, maybe those people have a point. Maybe we shoudn&#039;t be discussing all that gross stuff in public; let alone teaching it to middle schoolers.&quot; They&#039;ll just dig in their little heels and scream, &quot;Back off hater! We do what we want!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s worse, Trish, is that so many gay activists are like Tim, and won&#8217;t even say to themselves, &#8220;Gosh, maybe those people have a point. Maybe we shoudn&#8217;t be discussing all that gross stuff in public; let alone teaching it to middle schoolers.&#8221; They&#8217;ll just dig in their little heels and scream, &#8220;Back off hater! We do what we want!&#8221;</p>
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