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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; By Sponsoring CPAC, GOProud Helps Gays</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/10/whose-side-is-david-frum-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-521543</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; By Sponsoring CPAC, GOProud Helps Gays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] much to correct those prejudices still present in pockets of that movement.  Indeed, some groups, as one of our readers points out, who continue to promote such prejudices are also cosponsoring the conference.  Let us hope the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] much to correct those prejudices still present in pockets of that movement.  Indeed, some groups, as one of our readers points out, who continue to promote such prejudices are also cosponsoring the conference.  Let us hope the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Does David Frum Have a Problem with the &#8220;Little People&#8221;?</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Does David Frum Have a Problem with the &#8220;Little People&#8221;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Whose Side is David Frum on, anyway? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot negotiate with liberal fascists any more than you can negotiate with Stalin, Mao or Ho Chi Minh.  They won&#039;t negotiate unless they know they have you in a losing position.  Frum is too stupid to get this.  As are GOP leaders. The entire history of the GOP after Franklin Delano Stalin is one long series of negotiations over surrender terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot negotiate with liberal fascists any more than you can negotiate with Stalin, Mao or Ho Chi Minh.  They won&#8217;t negotiate unless they know they have you in a losing position.  Frum is too stupid to get this.  As are GOP leaders. The entire history of the GOP after Franklin Delano Stalin is one long series of negotiations over surrender terms.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frum is a laughingstock in conservative circles. He&#039;s dangerous only to those that follow his confused counsel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frum is a laughingstock in conservative circles. He&#8217;s dangerous only to those that follow his confused counsel.</p>
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		<title>By: OldNuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldNuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Frum is a conservative progressive and that makes him very dangerous to the Republican party and conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Frum is a conservative progressive and that makes him very dangerous to the Republican party and conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So I guess some folk are willing to work with those who might have conflicting views of points.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean like the gay left supporting the DNC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So I guess some folk are willing to work with those who might have conflicting views of points.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like the gay left supporting the DNC?</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Supreme Court of the United States or say the population of the State of California and Maine are anti-gay groups, &#039;cus they opposed gay marriage too. 

Amazing how if you dont agree to everything a victim group wants, you immediately become a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc...

Gawd it just makes me embarrassed to be gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Supreme Court of the United States or say the population of the State of California and Maine are anti-gay groups, &#8216;cus they opposed gay marriage too. </p>
<p>Amazing how if you dont agree to everything a victim group wants, you immediately become a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Gawd it just makes me embarrassed to be gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon387823</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon387823</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Frum is the straight Andrew Sullivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Frum is the straight Andrew Sullivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok  do you think Frum, Andrew Sullivan and the likes of David Brooks are invited to NYT fancy dinners and DC events? I do, thus their &quot;woo is the republican party&quot; mantra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok  do you think Frum, Andrew Sullivan and the likes of David Brooks are invited to NYT fancy dinners and DC events? I do, thus their &#8220;woo is the republican party&#8221; mantra.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frum&#039;s one of those Republicans who cares mostly about getting the right invites from people whom, for reasons that escape me, he sees as superior.

Tano - when the Dems squeeze out these monstrosities behind closed doors, change the locks, call us Nazis or &quot;deniers&quot;, and refuse to make 2,000 page bills available for evaluation until a few hours before a vote (and then in a form that&#039;s unreadable), I don&#039;t see a party interested in any good faith negotiation.

I don&#039;t want the GOP &quot;reaching across the aisle&quot;. They&#039;ve been reaching for years only to find a bloody stump remaining.

In my benighted way of thinking, some things just aren&#039;t negotiable. 

&lt;em&gt;I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!&lt;/em&gt; - Barry Goldwater

The GOP has not always been on the right side of things but, for now, it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frum&#8217;s one of those Republicans who cares mostly about getting the right invites from people whom, for reasons that escape me, he sees as superior.</p>
<p>Tano &#8211; when the Dems squeeze out these monstrosities behind closed doors, change the locks, call us Nazis or &#8220;deniers&#8221;, and refuse to make 2,000 page bills available for evaluation until a few hours before a vote (and then in a form that&#8217;s unreadable), I don&#8217;t see a party interested in any good faith negotiation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want the GOP &#8220;reaching across the aisle&#8221;. They&#8217;ve been reaching for years only to find a bloody stump remaining.</p>
<p>In my benighted way of thinking, some things just aren&#8217;t negotiable. </p>
<p><em>I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!</em> &#8211; Barry Goldwater</p>
<p>The GOP has not always been on the right side of things but, for now, it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Scherie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scherie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get over Frum&#039;s remark about Sarah Palin&#039;s popularity.  He said something to effect that she gives off sexual vibes.  What kind of sexist bullsh** is that?  Although I&#039;m not a Republican, if that&#039;s the best the party has to offer, they are in serious trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get over Frum&#8217;s remark about Sarah Palin&#8217;s popularity.  He said something to effect that she gives off sexual vibes.  What kind of sexist bullsh** is that?  Although I&#8217;m not a Republican, if that&#8217;s the best the party has to offer, they are in serious trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty,

What constitutes an &quot;anti-gay&quot; group? Are they single issue groups organized to undermine gays or incarcerate gays or exterminate gays or what? Or are they multi-faceted groups who do not, say, support gay marriage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>What constitutes an &#8220;anti-gay&#8221; group? Are they single issue groups organized to undermine gays or incarcerate gays or exterminate gays or what? Or are they multi-faceted groups who do not, say, support gay marriage?</p>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GoProud is a co sponsor of CPAC. . .Among the other co-sponsors are anti-gay groups Concerned Women for America, Focus on the Family, the Alliance Defense Fund, and the National Organization for Marriage.

So I guess some folk are willing to work with those who might have conflicting views of points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GoProud is a co sponsor of CPAC. . .Among the other co-sponsors are anti-gay groups Concerned Women for America, Focus on the Family, the Alliance Defense Fund, and the National Organization for Marriage.</p>
<p>So I guess some folk are willing to work with those who might have conflicting views of points.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Fifties &quot;liberals&quot; (i.e., State-fellators)  used to call people like Brooks &quot;responsible conservatives.&quot; &quot;Responsible&quot; meant &quot;no threat to us.&quot; In honor of Brooks and Frum, I call &#039;em &quot;Uncle Daves&quot; --polite, deferential, well-mannered &quot;house&quot; conservatves, who love their &#039;Massa &#039;Bama and would never think of doing anything to harm the Plantation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Fifties &#8220;liberals&#8221; (i.e., State-fellators)  used to call people like Brooks &#8220;responsible conservatives.&#8221; &#8220;Responsible&#8221; meant &#8220;no threat to us.&#8221; In honor of Brooks and Frum, I call &#8216;em &#8220;Uncle Daves&#8221; &#8211;polite, deferential, well-mannered &#8220;house&#8221; conservatves, who love their &#8216;Massa &#8216;Bama and would never think of doing anything to harm the Plantation.</p>
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		<title>By: j4140</title>
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		<dc:creator>j4140</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these bills are awful and detrimental to our country.  No amount of &quot;negotiation&quot; is going to improve or change anything.  They need to be killed not tweaked.  They are the dictators; our side is allowed to carry their water if we like.  Anything more than that and let the attacks (racist, sexist, homophobe, mean-spirited) begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these bills are awful and detrimental to our country.  No amount of &#8220;negotiation&#8221; is going to improve or change anything.  They need to be killed not tweaked.  They are the dictators; our side is allowed to carry their water if we like.  Anything more than that and let the attacks (racist, sexist, homophobe, mean-spirited) begin.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Livewire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Livewire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy to understand.

We may disagree with David Frum, but we still count him as &#039;one of ours&#039; and accept he has the occasional good idea.

Now look at the left&#039;s respect of Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy to understand.</p>
<p>We may disagree with David Frum, but we still count him as &#8216;one of ours&#8217; and accept he has the occasional good idea.</p>
<p>Now look at the left&#8217;s respect of Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/10/whose-side-is-david-frum-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-520652</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is it that you are so manifestly unable to accord anyone, who happens to disagree with you on something, the basic level of respect that you demand for yourself – that they might well be a serious thinker, a person of integrity, and one who comes to their opinions sincerely.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What kind of serious though is required for, essentially, &quot;&lt;i&gt;bend over and bite on a pillow.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;? How much &quot;integrity&quot; is required for that?

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you look at all of the polling on this, a very strong majority of Americans beleive that Obama and the Dems reached out to Republicans and were met with absolute opposition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For example.....?

&lt;blockquote&gt;If that means failure for America, so be it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Liberal policies are, and for the most part, always have meant failure for America and her people. Slavery, segregation, poverty, economic depression etc. Now, they want to add another failure in health careless, massive debt, massive taxes etc. etc. etc.

He&#039;s doing a damn fine job of it on his own.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Some of the braver souls in your camp even said so publically.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Such as.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is it that you are so manifestly unable to accord anyone, who happens to disagree with you on something, the basic level of respect that you demand for yourself – that they might well be a serious thinker, a person of integrity, and one who comes to their opinions sincerely.</p></blockquote>
<p>What kind of serious though is required for, essentially, &#8220;<i>bend over and bite on a pillow.</i>&#8220;? How much &#8220;integrity&#8221; is required for that?</p>
<blockquote><p>If you look at all of the polling on this, a very strong majority of Americans beleive that Obama and the Dems reached out to Republicans and were met with absolute opposition.</p></blockquote>
<p>For example&#8230;..?</p>
<blockquote><p>If that means failure for America, so be it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Liberal policies are, and for the most part, always have meant failure for America and her people. Slavery, segregation, poverty, economic depression etc. Now, they want to add another failure in health careless, massive debt, massive taxes etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s doing a damn fine job of it on his own.</p>
<blockquote><p>Some of the braver souls in your camp even said so publically.</p></blockquote>
<p>Such as&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say it another way: Poison is always in favor of &#039;negotiating&#039; or &#039;compromising&#039; with food.  Because the end result will still be poison.

Case in point: The &#039;public option&#039; as the Left&#039;s ruse for destroying the private insurance industry and forcing our society, over time, to single payer.  Of course the Left wants to &#039;negotiate&#039; over that.  Of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say it another way: Poison is always in favor of &#8216;negotiating&#8217; or &#8216;compromising&#8217; with food.  Because the end result will still be poison.</p>
<p>Case in point: The &#8216;public option&#8217; as the Left&#8217;s ruse for destroying the private insurance industry and forcing our society, over time, to single payer.  Of course the Left wants to &#8216;negotiate&#8217; over that.  Of course.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Does anybody seriously believe the Democrats wanted to negotiate?”

Well, actually, yes&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ah.  Something where Tano and I can agree.  You see, I do believe the hard Left wants to &#039;negotiate&#039; (scare quotes).  They want to negotiate whenever, wherever, and because it will mean that THEY WIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Does anybody seriously believe the Democrats wanted to negotiate?”</p>
<p>Well, actually, yes</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah.  Something where Tano and I can agree.  You see, I do believe the hard Left wants to &#8216;negotiate&#8217; (scare quotes).  They want to negotiate whenever, wherever, and because it will mean that THEY WIN.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find it amusing when Tano, often one of the blog&#039;s elite screeching name-callers, prattles on about respect and adult conduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find it amusing when Tano, often one of the blog&#8217;s elite screeching name-callers, prattles on about respect and adult conduct.</p>
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