Comments on: On the Kevin Jennings’ Kerfuffle & the Silence of the MSM http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:32:12 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Seane-Anna http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-522874 Seane-Anna Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:43:36 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-522874 Ashpenaz, nobody who's entire life is lived in contradiction to the standards of God is a Christian. Period. Can a Christian occasionally fall from grace? Yes. But habitual defiance of God's standards and commands is not how the true Christian lives, regardless of what your denomination teaches. Ashpenaz, nobody who’s entire life is lived in contradiction to the standards of God is a Christian. Period. Can a Christian occasionally fall from grace? Yes. But habitual defiance of God’s standards and commands is not how the true Christian lives, regardless of what your denomination teaches.

]]> By: Ashpenaz http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-521913 Ashpenaz Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:26:09 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-521913 Here's Doug Giles' latest column which is on this issue: http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2009/12/12/kevin_jennings_and_%E2%80%9Cfistgate%E2%80%9D_should_make_parents_furious Other than finding Giles incredibly attractive, I also agree with him on most things. He is, however, one of those Christian conservatives who don't know that gay Christians exist. If we are going to get him past the stereotypes, we need to stop acting like stereotypes. Here’s Doug Giles’ latest column which is on this issue:

http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2009/12/12/kevin_jennings_and_%E2%80%9Cfistgate%E2%80%9D_should_make_parents_furious

Other than finding Giles incredibly attractive, I also agree with him on most things. He is, however, one of those Christian conservatives who don’t know that gay Christians exist. If we are going to get him past the stereotypes, we need to stop acting like stereotypes.

]]> By: Matt from California http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-521345 Matt from California Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:20:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-521345 As soon as the children are graduated from high school or age 18 they should be free to read whatever they want. I am taking a different view than what the traditionalists who want the youth to know nothing and the leftists who want to sexualize the children at age 5 or earlier. We dont live in a liberal culture. Middle America is becoming more aware of what is going on and will retaliate against Kevin Jennings and company big time. Maybe as queer conservatives and pragmatic straight allies we can create a new social culture that is not as radical as it used to be. As soon as the children are graduated from high school or age 18 they should be free to read whatever they want. I am taking a different view than what the traditionalists who want the youth to know nothing and the leftists who want to sexualize the children at age 5 or earlier.

We dont live in a liberal culture. Middle America is becoming more aware of what is going on and will retaliate against Kevin Jennings and company big time.

Maybe as queer conservatives and pragmatic straight allies we can create a new social culture that is not as radical as it used to be.

]]> By: DRH http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-521271 DRH Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:15:59 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-521271 A few observations: All teens are embarrassed to talk about sex with their parents. That embarrassment may mutate into fear when the teen is not traditionally heterosexual and the parents are not accepting of it. So perhaps a parent-free zone is appropriate. But I can see how it could easily become incredibly inappropriate. Regarding parents giving feedback to the curriculum for the conferences: I'm horrified to think what sort of feedback my parents would have given! They would have flatly denied that gays could have emotional relationships. There is no complexity to human sexuality in their minds. Of course, this was their view ten years ago, and dealing with me has given them new insights. The tension between what is good for the teen and how much control parents should have seems the core of the problem. Lastly, when I consider what life is like in more less-gay-friendly societies, I wonder what the reaction would be to giving out the "Little Black Book" in them. Would we collectively cheer that on as providing important information to closeted gays? A few observations:

All teens are embarrassed to talk about sex with their parents. That embarrassment may mutate into fear when the teen is not traditionally heterosexual and the parents are not accepting of it. So perhaps a parent-free zone is appropriate. But I can see how it could easily become incredibly inappropriate.

Regarding parents giving feedback to the curriculum for the conferences: I’m horrified to think what sort of feedback my parents would have given! They would have flatly denied that gays could have emotional relationships. There is no complexity to human sexuality in their minds. Of course, this was their view ten years ago, and dealing with me has given them new insights. The tension between what is good for the teen and how much control parents should have seems the core of the problem.

Lastly, when I consider what life is like in more less-gay-friendly societies, I wonder what the reaction would be to giving out the “Little Black Book” in them. Would we collectively cheer that on as providing important information to closeted gays?

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-520995 ThatGayConservative Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:40:59 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-520995 Kodak has thus far ignored me. Kodak has thus far ignored me.

]]> By: John http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-520989 John Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:24:00 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-520989 Don't expect one, Leah, unless the stink made about this becomes too big to ignore. GLSEN is ignoring the first rule of damage control: NEVER ignore a problem, hoping it will go away. If it were me I'd tackled this head-on and rebutt every credible-sounding charge, probably in a comprehensive press release. Don’t expect one, Leah, unless the stink made about this becomes too big to ignore. GLSEN is ignoring the first rule of damage control: NEVER ignore a problem, hoping it will go away. If it were me I’d tackled this head-on and rebutt every credible-sounding charge, probably in a comprehensive press release.

]]> By: Leah http://www.gaypatriot.net/2009/12/11/on-the-kevin-jennings-kerfuffle-the-silence-of-the-msm/comment-page-1/#comment-520799 Leah Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:32:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=20143#comment-520799 I hope GLSEN repsonds to you, since I sent them an angry email, and nothing, no response whatsoever. I hope GLSEN repsonds to you, since I sent them an angry email, and nothing, no response whatsoever.

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