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Why Won’t Al Gore Debate Lord Monckton?

At least one conservative blogger is making much of CBS’s Charles Cooper’s promotion of a debate between former Vice President Al Gore and former Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin on global warming.

Personally, I think Sarah should do it.  Her increasingly improving ability to withstand ridicule will stand in stark contrast to the self-righteous Democrat.  And while Cooper (as fits the bias of his network) explores the charismatic Republican’s apparent reluctance to debate the pompous Democrat, he all but assumes that the man, who has heretofore refused to debate his pet issue, will, all of a sudden, shift course should Mrs. Palin prove willing.  Perhaps Katie Couric’s sidekick thinks Gore will readily accede to the clamor for such a debate just ’cause he’s so smart and she’s so dumb.

But, he forgets what a “quick study” this accomplished reformer truly is.

The real question, however,  should not be whether or not Palin will debate Gore, but why Gore won’t respond to Lord Monckton’s repeated invitations to debate.

Please note that the British peer issued this challenge before the publication of the Climategate e-mails.

Monckton and Gore have much in common, both born to prominent fathers and educated at prestigious universities.  While living on opposite side of “the pond,” they find themselves on opposite sides of the global warming debate.  Neither is a trained scientist.  Both have a background in journalism. It seems a perfect pairing, one that a thinking man’s thinking man should eagerly embrace.

Wonder why the mainstream media isn’t making much of Lord Monckton’s challenge, choosing instead to focus on Sarah Palin’s hesitation.



  1. OK Dan. I think your train has left the tracks! Palin Delusion Syndrome has definitely set in!

    There is no way in hell that Sarah Palin could be on stage with Al Gore and discuss this subject. This is a complex subject, and requires a tremendous amount of time to really get your head around the stats and metrics that are involved. Lord Mnkton has had years of studyto come to his conclusion, and has a deft and detailed knowledge of the both the pro and con arguments concerning anthropogenic global warming. He was there from the beginning, so has a long familiarity with AGW. Monkton knows the details. Palin is not a details oriented person. Gore would eat her for lunch.. and not in a good way. A Gore / Palin debate on the subject would be a total disaster for Palin.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 12, 2009 @ 10:54 pm - December 12, 2009

  2. Maybe because the guy is a total nutjob with the intellect and rhetorical style of lonely blog-commenter?
    And whats with this “Lord” crap? His name is Christopher. A useless elitist pretentious snob to boot….

    Comment by Tano — December 12, 2009 @ 11:11 pm - December 12, 2009

  3. Tano, the guy is a British nobleman. It’s their history. He can’t help it he’s a lord. He makes fun of himself. He is not pretentious about it.

    Comment by Amy K. — December 12, 2009 @ 11:31 pm - December 12, 2009

  4. I though Tano was referring to AlGore.

    Comment by JP — December 12, 2009 @ 11:36 pm - December 12, 2009

  5. I thought Tano was referring to himself.

    Comment by Sean A — December 13, 2009 @ 12:30 am - December 13, 2009

  6. Tano, a simple question – How do reconcile the fact that it is Gore who over and over refuses to debate Monkton? And Gore’s not the only one; add Schmidt, and Mann, and Jones, and Briffa, and Osborne, and Esper, and Wigley to the list. To top it off, one of the e-mails proves that Schmidt did indeed flat out lie about CO2 stats in a post at RealClimate to try and prove Monkton wrong.

    I’ll post it tomorrow. Must sleep now.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — December 13, 2009 @ 2:36 am - December 13, 2009

  7. Tano, so if Monckton is a nutjob, Al Gore should dispatch him as easily as that other nutjob he debated.

    Sixteen years ago, he didn’t have a problem debating “nutjobs.” Why does he now?

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — December 13, 2009 @ 3:06 am - December 13, 2009

  8. Oh, and Thompson, who was an adviser to AIT. He was a party to the falsified Thompsom Treemometer in the video, which they claimed to NOT be Mann’s Hockey Stick, but was, in fact, Mann’s Hocley Stick, lifted right from one of Thompson’s own papers.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — December 13, 2009 @ 4:15 am - December 13, 2009

  9. Ok. So they figured out how to make fuel out of CO2. Will they leave us alone, let us keep our money and quit making 9/11ish adds with polar bears falling out of the sky?

    Can we have real light bulbs and self-defrosting traffic lights?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 13, 2009 @ 6:49 am - December 13, 2009

  10. 9/11ish adds

    ads, rather.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 13, 2009 @ 6:49 am - December 13, 2009

  11. File this under stupidity:

    “Wonder why the mainstream media isn’t making much of Lord Monckton’s challenge, choosing instead to focus on Sarah Palin’s hesitation”

    I would guess that its because 95% of Americans don’t know who Monckton is. Debating Monckton would do nothing but giving a denier more pub than he deserves, while a Gore v Palin debate would be headline news for weeks.
    Heavyweights fight Heavyweights.

    Comment by gillie — December 13, 2009 @ 9:56 am - December 13, 2009

  12. I have 2 questions for all you deniers out there:
    1. Do you agree that humans are increasing the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide chiefly by burning fossil fuels and forests?
    2. Do you acknowledge the basic physics behind the greenhouse effect?
    (taken from somewhere else but apt here)

    Comment by gillie — December 13, 2009 @ 9:58 am - December 13, 2009

  13. Gillie,

    Well since the Global Warming fraudsters are refusing to debate, I’d guess they’d have to honestly answer ‘no’ to both of your questions too.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 13, 2009 @ 10:19 am - December 13, 2009

  14. By simply promoting the concept of a debate between Gore and Palin, Charles Cooper reveals himself as just another entrenched congregant in the church of man-made global warming because he has implicitly moved past the real issue (which was unmistakably teed-up by the Climate-gate e-mails): an essential feature of the man-made climate change theory is SILENCING DEBATE. Of course Cooper wants to prattle on about some silly concept of a Gore/Palin match-up that will never happen because then he doesn’t have to report on the Left’s verified strategy to suppress all debate.

    Meanwhile, the actions of SustainUS (a Hitler Youth-styled environmental group) in Copenhagen yesterday to shut down an Americans For Prosperity event where Christopher Monckton was speaking, reveals that a whole new generation of brainwashed, eco-fascists are completely on board with the strategy of suppression and intimidation of the movement’s critics.

    Add this incident to the towering pile of videos depicting Leftist advocacy groups and undergraduates proudly demonstrating their contempt for free speech for anyone who disagrees with them. The video is prominently featured on SustainUS’s YouTube page–they are actually PROUD of successfully preventing one of their ideological opponents from even stating his point of view at a meeting organized for that purpose. In their warped minds, this was a job well-done. It’s unbelievable.

    Comment by Sean A — December 13, 2009 @ 10:42 am - December 13, 2009

  15. gillie, like the other Global Warmist religious believers, seems to lack the slightest understanding of “the basic physics behind the greenhouse effect” as he puts it.

    – CO2 is measured in parts per million and humans have only increased it by a hundred or two ppm.
    – Other gases – such as water vapor – are vastly larger contributors to the Earth’s ongoing (and natural) greenhouse effects.
    – If the Earth’s warming has anything to do with an increased greenhouse effect, there should be a ‘signature’ in the troposphere. And there isn’t. It’s missing.

    Conclusion: gillie, as a believer in a kooky, demented Left religion, denies science.

    P.S. I could also talk about how all the planets in the solar system are experiencing their own form of global warming – which should give you a big, big hint about where it’s really coming from. But again, that will probably be too real and scientific for gillie.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 13, 2009 @ 11:03 am - December 13, 2009

  16. Gillie, your questions are very third grade, but I’ll answer them:

    1. Do you agree that humans are increasing the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide chiefly by burning fossil fuels and forests?

    Yes, our activities have increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere from 0.04 percent, to 0.04105 percent. Yes.

    2. Do you acknowledge the basic physics behind the greenhouse effect?

    Of course. The basic equation is ΔF = α ln(C/C0). Experiments by both Arrhenius (basic radiative absorption) and Angstrom (the first to show the dual band nature of CO2 absorption), have TTBOMK not been refuted. Though Angstrom ‘s work suggested that Arrhenius overstated his absorption rate per molecule, his formula is the accepted one used by climate modelers.

    Now I have a question – Do you have any clue about the difficulties and uncertainties involved in the process of trying to model a complex dynamic system, where many of the variables and parameters are either not known, or even if they are, are so unpredictable than they can’t be modeled????

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 13, 2009 @ 12:07 pm - December 13, 2009

  17. …And since you asked two questions, I’ll ask a second:

    What is the measured radiative flux of Earths atmosphere? Is it positive or negative, and what is the amount of energy that seeps from the atmosphere into space as global warming occurs?

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 13, 2009 @ 12:23 pm - December 13, 2009

  18. sonicfrog,

    No fair using all those big words on gillie.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 13, 2009 @ 12:29 pm - December 13, 2009

  19. Christopher Monckton became 3rd Viscount Monckton of Benchley when his father, the 2nd Viscount, died in 2006. The proper form of address, whether Tano and even Christopher Monckton himself like it or not, is “Lord Monckton.” It’s not like Christopher Monckton invented that for himself.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — December 13, 2009 @ 2:51 pm - December 13, 2009

  20. Then again, Marxists have always loathed a hereditary nobility.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — December 13, 2009 @ 3:01 pm - December 13, 2009

  21. Then again, Marxists have always loathed a hereditary nobility.

    Which is kind of funny, when you look at examples like the nepotism within the Soviet Politburo, the other Eastern Bloc countries at the time, Cuba, Chicago politics, Al Gore himself, Jesse Jackson Senior and Junior, and now the Congressional Black Caucus and Barack Obama.

    For people who are supposedly against position by virtue of birth and skin color, they certainly practice a lot of it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 13, 2009 @ 4:07 pm - December 13, 2009

  22. sonicfrog:

    gillie just called and said you are making stuff up and your feet are too big.

    Comment by heliotrope — December 13, 2009 @ 4:58 pm - December 13, 2009

  23. Readers of Ace and HotAir will have already seen this:

    If you do nothing else, just view the second video in the link. It’s only about 3 minutes and makes clear that the Earth’s recent warming is (1) well in line with natural cycles – Well short of them, in fact; and (2) a very, very, very good thing.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 13, 2009 @ 9:18 pm - December 13, 2009

  24. Actually, I have tiny Hobbit feet!!! 🙂

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 13, 2009 @ 9:43 pm - December 13, 2009

  25. Where did gillie go?

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 14, 2009 @ 2:30 am - December 14, 2009

  26. whack-a-mole and his proxies, having been made fools of (again) have now ducked their heads down and popped up in other threads.

    “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan.

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 14, 2009 @ 6:41 am - December 14, 2009

  27. Looks like gillie isn’t the only one who’s hiding down there in the hole. Link

    Comment by The_Livewire — December 14, 2009 @ 10:45 am - December 14, 2009

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