Comments on: AP Reports Democratic Talking Points in Health Care Debate

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:42:44 +0000

(continued) Man, that guy is smart:

My Republican friends often seem to miss the point in this debate: The so-called “public option” is not Page 3,079, Section (f), Clause VII. The entire bill is a public option — because that’s where it leads, remorselessly. The so-called “death panel” is not Page 2,721, Paragraph 19, Sub-section (d), but again the entire bill — because it inserts the power of the state between you and your doctor, and in effect assumes jurisdiction over your body. As the savvier Dems have always known, once you’ve crossed the Rubicon, you can endlessly re-reform your health reform until the end of time, and all the stuff you didn’t get this go-round will fall into place, and very quickly.

RTWT.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:38:26 +0000

The incomparable Mark Steyn, on government run health-care – which turns out, surprise surprise, to be “all government and no health care”: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjU5OTJmODE4MGM5YmNiZDEyZDU5ZWU3NThhYjdmNGY=

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:09:50 +0000

A propos of both the "health care debate" and Christmas: Jesus was not a socialist.

By: B. Daniel Blatt

B. Daniel Blatt — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:22:06 +0000

DRH, yeah, but if we try to “bego” with the GOP right now, a split on the right gives up more of the DNC.

By: DRH

DRH — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:49:01 +0000

Honestly, I’m troubled by the inconsistency from both parties. Let’s begone with both of them.

By: John in Dublin CA

John in Dublin CA — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:06:45 +0000

How about we turn that headline around? “Democratic Inconsistency: Opposed expansion of Medicare under Bush, But Now Willing to Spend Trillions on Socialized Medicine”

By: heliotrope

heliotrope — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:24:44 +0000

Well, shoot! Never had I considered that prescriptions for seniors was foreplay for Obamacare.

While I would flog Bush incessantly for his drugs for old cranks stupidity, I never, ever thought the democrats would claim that his stupidity enticed them to boldly bankrupt the country and destroy ourselves and our posterity.

Geez, is there no end to the “blame George Bush” excuse making?

Tano is beginning to look like some sort of brain dead Einstein.

By: Joe Noory

Joe Noory — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:54:45 +0000

That’s okay, introducing law that has embedded clauses making them irrevokable by a subsequent congress doesn’t count as “shredding the constitution”, a lefty favorite.

By: MFS

MFS — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:43:58 +0000

I think the best headline has to be Tim Cavanaugh's over at Reason with "Health Care Bill That Is Hated by Liberals, Conservatives, Libertarians, Socialists, Christians, Feminists, the Media and the American People Passes Senate" Best wishes, -MFS

By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:42:00 +0000

The MSM and the “ordinary people” just don’t understand that the Guv’mint’s money is “our money”…not that of some amorphous and ambiguous pot of unlimited gold. “Taxing the rich” sounds good, but the math doesn’t work…it’s the middle class that pays, and they’rte doing the bitching.

Political education and awareness is at an all time low…..

By: Sharp_Right_Turn

Sharp_Right_Turn — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:39:33 +0000

How dare the Republicans try to stonewall the Dems’ grossly unpopular healthcare plan.

By: Dave_62

Dave_62 — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:50:31 +0000

What I’m seeing is the American left wanting to have it both ways. They want credit for doing something the left considers monumental. At the same time they’re trying to cover themselves when it fails. Either making it to the Presidents desk an becoming law then crashing or dying in conference committee.

The fact of the matter, they, Democrats own this bill and some of them are all readying bailing!

By: SoCalRobert

SoCalRobert — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:36:18 +0000

I highly recommend Mark Steyn’s column today. This is more than your ordinary boondoggle or pork bill. It’s a calamity; a nation-as-we-know-it ender.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/columncolumn-225898-mark-steyn.html

PS: read the comment by “grunt41″.

By: The_Livewire

The_Livewire — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:08:45 +0000

Hmm, should we not then be confused that the democrats opposed the Medicare d boondoggle but want to devistate the health care and health insurance industries?

By: Kurt

Kurt — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:28:45 +0000

I saw this headline last night and couldn’t be bothered to click through to see what talking points they were referring to. Thanks for checking it out.

Of course, even though the Medicare expansion was an expensive boondoggle, I don’t recall many Democrats up in arms over the increased costs. Furthermore, this article refers to tens of billions of increased costs (which is probably a conservative estimate), but that’s a FAR cry from the trillions which the health care deform monstrosity is going to add to the budget and the deficit.