Seems the folks at Hillbuzz are learning a lesson familiar to those of us gays on the right side of the political aisle, that when you challenge the left-wing orthodoxy, you face the wrath of its self-proclaimed guardians. Now they’re receiving threats worse that any of those we have yet faced. According to that lesbian diva Cynthia Yockey:
The Daily Kos and Democratic Underground have outed Kevin Dujan as the owner of the blog, Hill Buzz. They are smearing him with the false charge that that he is a racist. They are urging their readers to destroy his career and attack him physically.
Now, we don’t always agree with the folks at Hillbuzz, but do support their spunk. Gay, like us, they were big supports of a woman we have long derided, but, in the course of the 2008 campaign, came to appreciate for her tenacity, defying the prognosticators and keeping up her campaign even as the media were trying to bring her down. Even with the media working against her, Hillary Clinton won the better part of the Democratic primaries in the concluding months of the race for her party’s nomination.
And Hillbuzz stood with her, even as she (and they) faced the wrath of the PC gays, eager to rally behind the choice of their party’s left-wing.
Unlike some Democrats, these folks didn’t fall into line once Mrs. Clinton conceded. They continued to raise questions about the Democratic nominee. And many of their questions and concerns have proven prescient in the past year. They may, as most bloggers do, go over the top from time to time, but they do not merit the kind of abuse they have been taking in the wake of the Scott Brown campaign:
We have never in our lives seen the Left this crazed – and these are people who are crazy on an average Sunday, let alone a Sunday just days away from the biggest political earthquake of our generation.
The hatemail we get every day at this site has increased dramatically . . . . The attacks have actually crossed a few new lines, too, with a few of the Kossacks now attacking some of us here on a personal level.
Read the whole thing. We also experienced an uptick in hate comments in the wake of the Brown victory.
So, join Cynthia and us in supporting the folks at Hillbuzz. (She offers some suggestions of how you can help.) We don’t always agree with them, but do welcome their voice in the blogsophere.
Oh the heady days of the 08 primary, do I know what that was like and helped to push me out of the Democratic Party. I am, obviously, more left of center than most on here but I really did find this place to be a nice sanctuary when it got insane at my old liberal haunts. I totally stand with them, not all Democrats are left wingers or socialists.
Its nice to see this post and be reminded of some of the better times of 08 primary. I hope things work out for them but that Daily Kos place is insane, the comments are beyond over the top. I might have seen some comments here that I find to be out of place but nothing has been like it was over there. I would never want to be lumped in with them or be a part of that political spectrum again.
On a gay blog, that phrase may be ill-chosen.
*snort* @ ILC.
The Kossacks are trying to “Sullivan” the Hillbuzz guys, eh? Well, that which does not kill you et cetera and so forth.
Let’s hope they stay firm and don’t lose their spunk.
Best wishes,
-MFS
I just donated the cost of 3 days’ lunch. Not bragging, just want to show an example and remind people that every little bit helps. The Hillbuzz guys are apparently having to call in lawyers to protect themselves. I can flip them 3 days’ lunch money and if dozens or hundreds of others do the same, that helps a tiny bit with their bills.
I just wanted to tell everyone out there that these guys stand on principals when the going gets real shi77y, and boy it’s going to get bad for all of us conservatives. I am so PROUD of Hillbuzz!!!! I for one will donate to their fund and will rally the troops to support them. Thank you Hillbuzz for your service to this country because I know they love it more than themselves. I have admit I had a little bit of doubt as I stated yesterday and I feel bad for thinking it but trust is hard to come by in this day and age. I pray for ALL our safety and especially Obama because we do not need anything to happen to him! Hang in there Gay Patriot and keep up the great work!
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2009/12/rumor-source-is-lifelong-democrat-and-burris-fundraiser.html
from the Illinois Review back on 12/20/09. . .
Considering the political persuasion of DuJan, his recent threats and salacious rumor-mongering should only be taken seriously in as far as they come from a Democrat who found himself welcomed into the Republican camp. It’s too bad foolish GOP leaders once again allowed themselves to be taken in because they lack any principles other than victory at all costs. Shame on them and shame on those that continue to propagate DuJan’s opinions, innuendos, and Democrat intimidation.
I am a straight person for Hillbuzz. I have been reading them for more than a few months. They are funny and very witty most of the time. I might not agree with some of the things that they do, but they know how to write about their life, and it is not up to me to put them down.
These Hillbuzz young men are really very good people. They have moral values that are not seen at sites such as DailyKos. They are the ones who tend to the needs of others and they encourage others to get involved and do the same. Their Catholic upbringing is not lost upon them at least at the social level. I feel very proud to know them.
Not only did they stand up for Hillary, and they have enough material about what took place in those primaries to write a book about the corruption of the DNC, but they campaigned for McCain/Palin when Hillary dropped out of the race. They will not let anyone say anything about Trig Palin. They stand on good principles.
The majority of the regular readers consist of similar folk. Many of these readers are straight folk just like me, and they love the boyz.
These young men have provided us with an education on how to defeat those who use the Saul Alinsky playbook. They helped with the push for the money bomb for Brown and they co-ordinated a lot of other things that helped Brown’s campaign. It was good solid instruction.
I am personally not in a position to help them because I live in a foreign country and have no income of my own.
“And Hillbuzz stood with her, even as she (and they) faced the wrath of the PC gays, eager to rally behind the choice of their party’s left-wing.”
This is so weird. I don’t know these HillBuzz people, but I certainly followed that 08 primary season. And most all of the die-hard Hillary supporters I ran into, including the PUMA people, were all totally convinced that Hillary was the true voice of the left, and Obama was a centrist sell-out. All his airy-fairy talk of bipartisanship, his admiration for the political skill and style of Reagan (how many times I had to argue so long and hard that that did not mean support for Reagan policies!), their constant view that Obama’s health care plan, lacking an individual mandate, was nothing but Republicanism-lite.
I remember there were some PUMA types who were so embittered that they kept up all the Obama hatred even after the convention – that was what PUMA meant, after all. Were these people some of those who actually went over and supported Palin ( I remember it was she, not McCain, that seemed to attract them). Is that who these people are?
And have they now changed their tune and characterize Obama as the real lefty? Or were they occupying such a position all along – I certainly never ran into any Hillary supporters who argued that she was the real centrist.
Tres strange…..
(and what can you say about someone who supports Hillary and Sarah….confused?)
Tano,
I do not believe the Hill Buzz boyz ever thought of Obama as a centrist. They live in Chicago and have dirt on him going back several years, so he is not able to deceive them.
Although the Hill Buzz boyz love Hillary and are loyal to her, the last I recall is that if there were a presidential race of Hillary versus Sarah Palin, they would choose Sarah because they are so horrified at what the Democratic Party has become.
Readers who cannot donate to Hill Buzz also can express their support by making a positive comment there and getting to know them. Their instructions on how to campaign are excellent. And the reports from PFLAG mom, Pattymelt, are a hoot.
Love the boyz, and have donated several times, but I must say, my memory is that they’d support Hillary over Palin, not that I care….but I am curious as to how the site will turn if they both run in 2012!
Yikes! Yet more ugly brownshirt thuggery.
Good for you Cynthia and Dan for sticking up for them. I’m not very familiar with them, so I probably would never have heard about this otherwise. But even though I dont frequent their blog, I will be happy to support them against such vile tactics.
“I do not believe the Hill Buzz boyz ever thought of Obama as a centrist.”
So they were on their own bizarre trip, supporting a candidate because they saw her as being fundamentally different from how she, and her supporters saw themselves?
Since everyone here seems so supportive of these people, maybe y’all can explain something to me.
I know most everyone here recoils in horror at what you call identity politics – you would never, for instance, support someone just because they were gay, irrespective of their stand on other issues. I assume the same would hold for supporting someone because they were, or were not black, or a woman.
So what to make – really – of people who would enthusiastically support Hillary, and then, a few weeks later, Sarah Palin? What, besides their sex, do these two politicians have in common? And lets remind ourselves, irrespective of what these HillBuzz people might claim, that Hillary herself, and all her followers built their campaign around an image of her being to the left of Obama.
If you were enmeshed in the Hillary campaign, and totally bought into her policy positions, then, once she lost, you would have to jump waaaaaaay over Obama, and over McCain for that matter, to get to the political ground that Sarah stood on. How does that work?
Help me out here. Are these HillBuzz people just totally off the wall goofs who understand nothing about politics and just follow weird voices in their heads? Are they supporting “strong” women because they are “strong” women, irrespective of what those women actually believe in? Are they just fundamentally Obama haters who will throw their hearts behind anyone who happens to be his main opponent of the day?
And what exactly is the source of your admiration for these guys? That they are gay? Even if they are prone to support someone like Hillary?
Or do you guys love Hillary too, and I should just ignore all the policy pronouncements y’all have made all along?
Inquiring minds would love to know…..
#14: I hope to God no one is actually inclined to respond to Talking Points Tano’s questions above. In light of the fact that every time TPT is asked a question that, if answered with intellectual honesty, would incinerate his entire world view, he either disappears or responds with some pathetic tripe about a response being beneath his dignity, I would encourage everyone to treat TPT’s curious inquiries as purely rhetorical and ignore them.
Of course, this should not apply where TPT simply posts some idiotic argument that he ripped off from Bawney Fwank or some other Leftist imbecile. Obviously, the fish-in-a-barrel intellectual poundings should continue unabated.
Thank you.
You got it, Sean A.
I supported Hllary very strongly and did not see her as “left” but more the centrist…and definately saw obie as very much to the left..in fact the joke was that the left had gone so far to the left that they ran right into the ass of the far right…!
AS for being able to support McCAin/Palin which in the end I did…it was not a difficult decision…damn shame some of you cannot give those of us who did much credit…you just continue to build our argument against you…thick headed and not very open … the left and the far left trolls were viciously nasty…we saw it on a regular basis…there was no way I was going to put that energy in the Oval Office… I have yet to see any of your guys stand as strong against the msm the sexism and all of the other buillshit that went on from the dems…and probably since it would seem your heads are pretty far up your own butts you failed to see as much as many of the rest of us did…..NOPE ..NOT a single one of your folks put up with as much as she and the 18 + million Americans who voted for her did … Paolics is one thing but what went on was something unheard of in this country…something more from a third world country….but hey glad to see you all treat women so well… just another reason why the gop gets such a bad rap….
Yeah, Sarahcudda, Condi Rice, Ellen Chao…
Jsut off the top of my head three women demonstrating the long record of abuse of women by the Republican Party.
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.
LLL,
I guess there is an infinite range of human perspectives. But anyone who saw Hillary and her campaign as “centrist’ – when that campaign itself and all its supporters did everything they could to pin that label on Obama – well I guess we are all entitled to our own little universes….
“the joke was that the left had gone so far to the left that they ran right into the ass of the far right”
Huh? Speaking of being in your own private universe…..I never heard any joke like that. What is it supposed to mean? That Obama was the far-leftist converging on being a far-rightist? Is this a joke or something?
“damn shame some of you cannot give those of us who did much credit…”
For what? Please explain. How can you enthusiastically support Hillary – with all her emphasis on running as a proud leftist (including the more-lefty-than-Obama health care reform package), and then turn around and support McCain/Palin? What were the similarities you saw? How was the latter team a credible second choice for you? What issues drove you? Or did you just totally change your political philosophy between June and August?
“NOT a single one of your folks put up with as much as she and the 18 + million Americans who voted for her did..”
This is just pathetic. Ya such a victim, all a ya….
Meanwhile back on planet Earth, everyone else is perfectly aware of how it was Hillary and her crew who played the political game to the hilt – to such an extent that it backfired on them
“what went on was something unheard of in this country…”
May I suggest curling up with a good book (or 10) about American political history….
I guess there is an infinite range of human perspectives. But anyone who saw Hillary and her campaign as “centrist’ – when that campaign itself and all its supporters did everything they could to pin that label on Obama – well I guess we are all entitled to our own little universes….
Which is why, of course, “progressives” were screaming about Hillary labeling Obama as “the most liberal Senator”.
For what? Please explain. How can you enthusiastically support Hillary – with all her emphasis on running as a proud leftist (including the more-lefty-than-Obama health care reform package)
Which was why Obama had to scream and run away when Hillary pointed out his goal to force single-payer health insurance on Americans.
Perhaps if you were not so blinded by your ideology, Tano, you could make intelligent contributions to the conversation. But as you continually show, you simply lack the knowledge and intellectual curiosity to investigate whether or not the talking points handed to you at your illegally-funded job to propagandize for Obama are truthful.
Let’s see..now just how is opening up state lines to purchase health insurance and NO gov’t intervention oh and opening up what congress has for healthcare to the rest of us left…I’m sorry did I miss something..in fact it’s pretty much the same thing many of your own are offering up…wow..talk about living on a different planet…
Ahh yeah and let’s please not forget the whiners from the GOP who sat at home throwing their little temper tantrums refusing to vote for McCain/Palin because he wasn’t conservative enough for them…ugh..puhlease people wake up to your own party’s mess… ya see it wasn’t so much the policies that we were voting for as much as it was what we knew we did not want to put in the wh…we knew exactly what this country was going to get…we voted for what and who we thought would have done the best for the country between the two..we also knew that John and Hillary were in fact very good friends..he was the first one to approach her on the Senate floor on her first day….we knew she would have his ear… we were apparently moe aware of what would have gone on… so now we’ve got not a damned thing done…and you all are doing nothing but accusing others of such crap..have to say your arrogance just amazes me..it’s also why the repubs get such little respect… tell me just how many of you actually went in read her plans…not listened to the crap in the msm but actually went to her website and read her plans and what she was going to do and how she was going to do it…it was all up there..John’s uh..not so much…and barry’s pretty much non-existant… the party first crap is something both the right and the left seem to have in common…
I’m a conservative Christian. A Republican. Not a likely ally perhaps but I’m standing with you. I want you to know that I am appalled at what has been done to Hillbuzz. When I read what happened to Kevin, i felt like someone had punched me in the stomach. I literally felt sick. What a violation! What an outrage. I’m praying for you, Kevin. Stay strong! You are a true hero.
Uh people. There was one blog post that was crossposted by one blogger (who used such nefarious tools as ‘whois’ and ‘google’) to a few sites – to very little interest. There is no conspiracy. You folks, esp. those who have donated money, appear to have been had.
The owner of Hillbuzz was never a mystery. All one ever needed to do is type “whois hillbuzz.org” into a terminal to find out. DuJan appears to have made no attempt to conceal his identity even tho there are methods of doing so.
I would simply suggest doing some research before giving this guy any more of your hard earned money. This has been blown way out of proportion. Fwiw, others on the right have come to similar conclusions.