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Will Democratic Congress Kill DADT Repeal?

Following the news these past two weeks, I have been pretty bullish about the Administration’s new-found commitment to repealing Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell (DADT).  The president sent signals to Congress and directed his top defense officials to develop a strategy to repeal the ban without compromising the military’s effectiveness.

Earlier this week, Adm. Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, expressed his intentions to do just that, telling

the Senate Armed Services Committee he believed the “don’t ask” restrictions—which require gay troops to keep their sexual orientation a secret—could be eliminated without harming military morale, recruitment or readiness.

But, now via Instapundit, we learn that “White House and congressional leaders are sending contradictory signals on scrapping the Pentagon’s ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy“:

[House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi on Thursday did not commit to a clear legislative timeline on “Don’t ask, don’t tell.”

“It would be my preference to go first with legislation,” Pelosi told reporters. “But we’ll have to examine and see what the model is for what the review is.”

Now, while she may claim she’s waiting for the Pentagon to review this, we can more readily translate her remarks as, “We’re kicking this can down the road.”

Other Democrats, including Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) do have some plans to pursue full or partial repeal.  While it’s nice to see Mrs. Pelosi so concerned about the Pentagon review, perhaps she should consider legislation for repeal to kick in once the Pentagon has produced  plan for its smooth implementation, an implementation that would not compromise morale or readiness.

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  1. How any *any* form of a communication gap in the military be a good thing? Repeal it now.

    http://bit.ly/9YNli3

    (social satire)

    Comment by bondwooley — February 5, 2010 @ 12:20 pm - February 5, 2010

  2. anticipating failure is counter-productive, especially at a time when there is legislative movement, a supportive president and the endorsement of top military brass for repeal. suggesting that congressional dems would bear the responsibility for the failure to repeal DADT is just bizarre. to my knowledge, the only members of congress who have voiced unequivocal support for the repealing DADT are dems. this isn’t to say that the dems are united behind the repeal. some support from the GOP is necessary–it’s time for them to stand up.

    Comment by Chad — February 5, 2010 @ 12:59 pm - February 5, 2010

  3. I say again: The Democrats aren’t driving this and dragging along a reluctant Pentagon. Rather, the Pentagon is driving this – slowly, in keeping with its glacial bureaucratic pace – and dragging along the reluctant Democrats.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 3:03 pm - February 5, 2010

  4. suggesting that congressional dems would bear the responsibility for the failure to repeal DADT is just bizarre.

    Next time, read the article, Obama puppet.

    House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (D-Mo.), who is being targeted by Republicans this cycle, opposes changes to “Don’t ask, don’t tell.”

    Murphy would have to convince Pelosi and Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.), who heads the Rules Committee, to allow a floor vote. Slaughter is a co-sponsor of Murphy’s repeal bill.

    Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), a veteran defense authorizer, does not support the repeal of the law. He recently told The Hill that an amendment to the defense authorization bill could embolden him and other conservative Democrats to band together with Republicans to “bring down” the bill.

    He also called on the Democratic leadership to consider the election of Scott Brown (R-Mass.) to the Senate as a wakeup call to the party, which Taylor believes has been sliding too far to the left.

    Take a lesson; lapdog gays and organizations like Aubrey Sarvis and SLDN exist primarily to support the Obama Party. They’re not going to tell you that their precious Obama massas are gumming up the works. Their only goal is to obediently blame Republicans for everything.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 5, 2010 @ 3:10 pm - February 5, 2010

  5. “the Pentagon is driving this…and dragging along the reluctant Democrats.”

    Just. Too. Funny.

    Comment by Tano — February 5, 2010 @ 3:13 pm - February 5, 2010

  6. thanks for the bringing the crazy, nd30…

    without a hint of irony, and in an apparent zeal to call me a puppet, you accuse me of not reading the article dan links to. but if you would have read my entire comment, you would have noticed that i acknowledged that the dems are not united behind the repeal. hence, support from the gop is going to be needed. i’m not seeing anyone from the right stepping up and voicing support for repeal. but even though it seems like the gop will overwhelmingly–if not unanimously–oppose the repeal of DADT, contrary to the advice of military leaders, you’re pre-emptively blaming the dems because 2 members of their caucus are also on record as opposing the repeal.

    your caustic “enthusiasm” would be better channeled towards lobbying fellow conservatives to support the repeal, assuming you could swallow your pride long enough to support such a progressive cause.

    (waiting for nd30 to call me a “gay sex liberal” in 3, 2, 1….)

    Comment by Chad — February 5, 2010 @ 3:33 pm - February 5, 2010

  7. Just. Too. Funny.

    I know, Tano. Your party is just pathetic, isn’t it?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 5:01 pm - February 5, 2010

  8. Oh wait, I get it. You mean that you (Tano) have not been following the news. Not for the first time.

    I’ll provide the “dummy notes” you need. Here: we have Gates, Mullen and Powell – all “defense establishment” types, either Republicans or Republican appointees – coming out against DADT. While Obama drags his heels and Pelosi as well – if you would be so kind as to read the text of Dan’s post.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 5:08 pm - February 5, 2010

  9. So the liberal leader on military policy is opposed to repeal. Naturally Chad and Tardo aren’t impressed. Chairman Obama will suspend prosecutions when?

    Extra credit: How many gay groups have been challenging DADT in court?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — February 5, 2010 @ 5:20 pm - February 5, 2010

  10. ILC,

    This is going to be totally fun. How long will try to make this argument. I can hardly wait.

    “While Obama drags his heels and Pelosi as well”

    Drags his heels eh? What has been his consistent position on this issue throughout the campaign and his administration? In what wayhas OBama dragged his heels?

    And Pelosi? She says: “It would be my preference to go first with legislation”. Is that dragging her heels? Oh, but she adds: “But we’ll have to examine and see what the model is for what the review is.” In other words, she wants to see how exactly the military wants to proceed before writing the details of the bill.

    And this is her dragging her heels? Sounds to me that she is waiting on the military. That would mean they are the rate-defining factor here.

    And from this you conclude that the military is driving this?

    Sorry to break this to ya, but the Commander in Chief has made it abundantly clear that this policy is going to change. The only question is how, not whether. He gave Gates and the military a year to come to grips with it, so that they could get out in front and define the process in a manner that is least disruptive to the forces. A thoroughly responsible process by a thoroughly responsible leader.

    Comment by Tano — February 5, 2010 @ 5:48 pm - February 5, 2010

  11. Why are you surprised, Dan? This is as convenient a political issue for the Dems as abortion is for Republicans. Neither party has shown any serious effort to do much about either, despite tossing some crumbs to their respective interest groups to keep stringing them along. Of course for all the legit criticism about the Dems in this, I’m disgusted by the Republicans. I listened to the speeches by McCain, Sessions and Chambliss at the hearing. Elaine Donnelly must be proud because they hit every single bogus talking point that she has been peddling for years.

    Instead fo worrying about Democrat duplicity and political shenanigans (par for the course among that lot IMO) perhaps as a supporter of the GOP you should be asking where Republican leadership is in all of this. After all, leadership isn’t a quality that one should toss aside simply because one is in the minority.

    Comment by John — February 5, 2010 @ 6:08 pm - February 5, 2010

  12. 10: Blah, blah, blah. That’s the same BS as setting up a commission to “study” a controversial issue so it will quietly fade from the public mind. Been there, seen it before from politicos of all stripes and am not impressed. Obama knows damn well that the issue will be dead in a year. He is stringing you along and you’re too stupid to see that. Heck, even Bilerico is smart enough to see that.

    Comment by John — February 5, 2010 @ 6:10 pm - February 5, 2010

  13. In what wayhas OBama dragged his heels?

    So spinneth the Obam-aid drinker. Among rational people, the question is: What has Obama done to end DADT? – other than his very recent and tepid announcement that he will follow whatever the Pentagon tells him to do on it.

    Really, Tano. You make this SO easy. Obama and Pelosi literally ANNOUNCE TO THE PUBLIC that they will (only) follow the generals’ lead on this one and wait for the Pentagon to tell them what to do – And you object to my characterization that all they are doing on this one is following the generals’ lead and waiting for the Pentagon to tell them what to do. LOL 🙂

    In other words, [Pelosi] wants to see how exactly the military wants to proceed before writing the details of the bill.

    Is that different in actual substance – in what is actually being said – from what I said up at comment #3? I can’t detect the difference. ROFL 🙂

    He gave Gates and the military a year to come to grips with it

    Is that like the year he gave the Pentagon and CIA for closing Gitmo? ROFLMAO 🙂

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 6:29 pm - February 5, 2010

  14. P.S. I shouldn’t laugh so hard. Tano, you play an, um, important (shall we say?) role.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 6:31 pm - February 5, 2010

  15. From Dan’s new article, an actual Obama quote:

    “This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are.”

    Note the construction. Not “This year, I will sign whatever executive orders are needed to repeal DADT and expect Congress to produce whatever bills are needed.” But rather, “This year, I will *work with* Congress…”

    Golly… Is that like “This year, I will work with Congress to pass a health care reform”? Or again, “This year, I will close Gitmo”? As usual, with Obama and his Kool-Aid drinkers, it’s the thought that counts. Only the thought. Only the declared intention, the pretentious speechifying. Never the result. Never the fact of the matter.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 6:41 pm - February 5, 2010

  16. P.P.S. I notice it never occurs to Tano to ask WHY the Pentagon/military is coming to the realization that DADT should end and beginning to push the civilian leadership to go there.

    Go on, Tano. Ask what would be in it for the military. You can just ask yourself, if you want. (Hints: Part of it would have to do with retaining good people. While another part would have to do with retaining bad people, i.e., with ending an excuse used by some number to get out of their military service pledges.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 5, 2010 @ 7:03 pm - February 5, 2010

  17. but if you would have read my entire comment, you would have noticed that i acknowledged that the dems are not united behind the repeal.

    I read, and I noticed — how you completely contradicted yourself by refusing to hold any Obama Party members responsible.

    That’s why you got called a puppet.

    your caustic “enthusiasm” would be better channeled towards lobbying fellow conservatives to support the repeal, assuming you could swallow your pride long enough to support such a progressive cause.

    Yup, it’s a typical “progressive” cause, just like their stance that soldiers are murderers and baby-killers, a la Jane Fonda and John Kerry, and that the United States should abolish the armed forces.

    Puppets like yourself are so easily manipulated, chad. Do you really think the Obama Party, which supports and endorses Code Pink and its outright vandalism and harassment of US troops, has the military’s best interest at heart? Do you even care, as long as they pander to your minority status?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 5, 2010 @ 7:27 pm - February 5, 2010

  18. stop digging nd30.

    Comment by Chad — February 5, 2010 @ 9:42 pm - February 5, 2010

  19. “his very recent and tepid announcement that he will follow whatever the Pentagon tells him to do on it.”

    What planet do you live on ILC? Whatever your opinion of Obama might be, he is the Commander in Chief. The military follows his orders, he does not follow theirs. He will follow the process that they lay out, because he has ordered them to come up with a process, and he did that because he does respect their detailed expertise as to how his order should be carried out.

    This is a derangement syndrome run amok on your part. You are so thoroughly incapable of admitting that Obama is doing something you support, that you have to go to these absurd lengths to concoct this totally bizarre story. But then again, we know this about you. You recently, and several times, have made it clear that you have such deep hatred of lil’ ol’ me, that you run around pathetically pleading with the other commenters here to never associate, in their minds, in any way, my position with yours, no matter how much it may seem that we agree on something.

    So clearly, you live in mortal fear of one of the thugs around here calling you an Obama-lover or something like that. How pathetic,,,,
    (hey 4 posts in a row!!! – ya hope they got the message???_)

    “WHY the Pentagon/military is coming to the realization that DADT should end ”

    The realization they came to is that it WILL end. Because their CiC has told them it WILL end. It will end through a process of their own making, or it will end haphazardly.
    Now I will grant you one thing – this thoroughly responsible path that Obama has followed was not, apparently, his own idea from the start. From the talk I hear, it was Gen. Jones who convinced him, early in the administration, to give the military a heads-up, and a long (a year or so) lead time before bringing the matter to a head. Given the lesson of the nineties, Obama was receptive to arguments about making sure that everyone had assimilated the fact that this was going to happen, and was prepared for it.

    Comment by Tano — February 5, 2010 @ 9:58 pm - February 5, 2010

  20. Drags his heels eh? What has been his consistent position on this issue throughout the campaign and his administration? In what wayhas OBama dragged his heels?

    As I’ve said, one would think that if he gave a damn about it, he would have done something while voting “present” in the senate.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — February 6, 2010 @ 2:00 am - February 6, 2010

  21. 19: As I said before, even some libs aren’t convinced the effort is serious either: http://www.bilerico.com/2010/02/dadt_repeal_shelved_to_2011.php

    And of course there are the libs that are just batshit nuts whom I prefer to have absolutely nothing to do with and never want to see anywhere near the military let alone political power:
    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/02/dadt_and_the_silence_of_anti-war_queer_voices.php

    Comment by John — February 6, 2010 @ 8:19 am - February 6, 2010

  22. Oh and Tano, did you see Pelosi’s latest comments on DADT repeal?

    http://dcagenda.com/2010/02/pelosi-unsure-about-dont-ask-repeal-this-year/

    Yeah, the Dems are really serious about this… /sarc

    Comment by John — February 6, 2010 @ 10:54 am - February 6, 2010

  23. The realization they came to is that it WILL end. Because their CiC has told them it WILL end. It will end through a process of their own making, or it will end haphazardly.

    Except that the CiC *CANNOT* make it end. Only Congress can. So no matter what he says and what he wants, he’s impotent in this respect.

    There are two things he can do:

    – Issue an exec order to “stop loss” DADT dismissals
    – Advocate powerfully to Congress and the People

    He has failed to do either of these things that are totally within his capability to do. Therefor I judge him to be kicking this down the road a year. He hopes to use this scant activity to take advantage of the gay vote for democrats in the mid-term, and then come back to this after the elections and see how the wind is blowing. And if it’s not blowing well for him, then I suspect this just “goes away”.

    For myself, I want to see DADT come up for a *CLEAN* vote in both houses of Congress, with nothing else attached to it. I would definitely lobby all of my congressmen and senators to pass it if so. But if it comes with anything else, then all bets are off. I certainly want DADT gone, but not at the expense of anything else.

    I would love for Obama to step up and really use his abilities to advocate for this, and convince the People that it should be gone. I know he can do it, and that’s what frustrates me. I certainly won’t be putting one cent into democrat coffers until I see that sort of thing from him. The ball is *ENTIRELY* in his court in this respect.

    Comment by Heh — February 6, 2010 @ 3:41 pm - February 6, 2010

  24. “I would love for Obama to step up and really use his abilities to advocate for this, and convince the People that it should be gone. I know he can do it, and that’s what frustrates me. I certainly won’t be putting one cent into democrat coffers until I see that sort of thing from him. The ball is *ENTIRELY* in his court in this respect.”

    What in carnation makes you think he can do this? He clearly is a phony. Phony Phony Phony. He is like make believe….

    Gay Patriot? Lesbian Patriot? Black Patriot? Mexican-American Patriot? WTF? How about American fucking Patriot and leave it at that. You have to have your own classification? Shut the F*ck UP and quit trying to put “balls” in your court.

    Jeez

    Comment by Not a Homo — March 12, 2010 @ 11:55 pm - March 12, 2010

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