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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Smart Move in Health Care Debate, but it&#8217;s fraught with risks for Democrats, huge risks</title>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano #22:&lt;blockquote&gt;Like what? Social Security reform? Hmmm. Immigration reform? Hmmmm.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Before we step further into this invitation to discussion, would you, Tano, admit that:

a) Social Security is bankrupt and must be addressed, and;

b) Illegal immigration needs to be addressed?

How about you come back with your liberal/progressive solutions to these issues you have introduced?

Why do I think you will cut and run?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano #22:<br />
<blockquote>Like what? Social Security reform? Hmmm. Immigration reform? Hmmmm.</p></blockquote>
<p>Before we step further into this invitation to discussion, would you, Tano, admit that:</p>
<p>a) Social Security is bankrupt and must be addressed, and;</p>
<p>b) Illegal immigration needs to be addressed?</p>
<p>How about you come back with your liberal/progressive solutions to these issues you have introduced?</p>
<p>Why do I think you will cut and run?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549709</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bush and the Republicans, for all their faults legislatively, accomplished more – with smaller majorities,&quot;

Like what? Social Security reform? Hmmm. Immigration reform? Hmmmm.
Oh, I remember - Medicare part D.

Ya got a point there ILC...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush and the Republicans, for all their faults legislatively, accomplished more – with smaller majorities,&#8221;</p>
<p>Like what? Social Security reform? Hmmm. Immigration reform? Hmmmm.<br />
Oh, I remember &#8211; Medicare part D.</p>
<p>Ya got a point there ILC&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear that *Democrats* need to come to grips with the fact that they have a majority.  Bush and the Republicans, for all their faults legislatively, accomplished more - with smaller majorities, and against far more poisonous opposition (in the Democrats).  Democrats, having historic majorities, have no one but themselves to blame for their present problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear that *Democrats* need to come to grips with the fact that they have a majority.  Bush and the Republicans, for all their faults legislatively, accomplished more &#8211; with smaller majorities, and against far more poisonous opposition (in the Democrats).  Democrats, having historic majorities, have no one but themselves to blame for their present problems.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;fyi…tort reform is already part of the current health care bill&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s meaningless, but it&#039;s there for show. Did you really think the liberals would turn against their contributors in the trial bar?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Democrats have a majority,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So all the liberal whining, pissing and moaning about bipartisanship when the Republicans were in the majority was just a joke or something? All that bitching about Bush&#039;s lack of bipartisanship was just sound and fury signifying nothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>fyi…tort reform is already part of the current health care bill</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s meaningless, but it&#8217;s there for show. Did you really think the liberals would turn against their contributors in the trial bar?</p>
<blockquote><p>I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Democrats have a majority,</p></blockquote>
<p>So all the liberal whining, pissing and moaning about bipartisanship when the Republicans were in the majority was just a joke or something? All that bitching about Bush&#8217;s lack of bipartisanship was just sound and fury signifying nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Gene in Pennsylvania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene in Pennsylvania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why the Republicans have to pull Obama Reid and Pelosi s onions out  of the fire. The bumbling Democrats with huge majorities in both houses can&#039;t govern. They&#039;ve lost every election since Obama stuck a stick in the eye of the electorate. Live with it. Most conservatives believe in small government. Govenment that intrudes less in our lives. I like it when any administration gets little done. Far less damage done. Get a concensoius to fix some problems. Those you can&#039;t  apparently there isn&#039;t a concensious. Go home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why the Republicans have to pull Obama Reid and Pelosi s onions out  of the fire. The bumbling Democrats with huge majorities in both houses can&#8217;t govern. They&#8217;ve lost every election since Obama stuck a stick in the eye of the electorate. Live with it. Most conservatives believe in small government. Govenment that intrudes less in our lives. I like it when any administration gets little done. Far less damage done. Get a concensoius to fix some problems. Those you can&#8217;t  apparently there isn&#8217;t a concensious. Go home.</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ah yes, lets buy drugs from Canada who are extorting them from drug companies at less than market value, and see how long we have drug companies!

The very WORST thing that could happen to the countries with socialized medicine is for the United States to join them. Then they will find out how much Americans have been propping up their already failing systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah yes, lets buy drugs from Canada who are extorting them from drug companies at less than market value, and see how long we have drug companies!</p>
<p>The very WORST thing that could happen to the countries with socialized medicine is for the United States to join them. Then they will find out how much Americans have been propping up their already failing systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and to follow up my last comment to Spartann

If you think that people with pre-existing conditions should not be denied coverage, then how do you avoid the situation whereby people remain uninsured until they get sick, and then go get insurance that they cannot be denied? 
The individual mandate is the answer to that question in the current bill. The insurance companies can live with giving coverage to those with preexisting conditions, and not dumping people once they get sick, but only if they can be assured of those healthy young people paying premiums. Otherwise, it won&#039;t work for them, as a matter of simple economics.

But I imagine that you are opposed to the individual mandate? So what would your solution be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and to follow up my last comment to Spartann</p>
<p>If you think that people with pre-existing conditions should not be denied coverage, then how do you avoid the situation whereby people remain uninsured until they get sick, and then go get insurance that they cannot be denied?<br />
The individual mandate is the answer to that question in the current bill. The insurance companies can live with giving coverage to those with preexisting conditions, and not dumping people once they get sick, but only if they can be assured of those healthy young people paying premiums. Otherwise, it won&#8217;t work for them, as a matter of simple economics.</p>
<p>But I imagine that you are opposed to the individual mandate? So what would your solution be?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How about this idea Mr President….. get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada&quot;

So what do they then get back in return?

&quot;….. or how about improving portability and accessibility of policies across state lines….&quot;

Its in the bill.

&quot;. and yes many lawsuits are valid, but just as many are not. So in the interest of doing what’s right and fair, yeah reel in attorneys and their frivolous law suits…..&quot;

How? Being able to have your day in court is a core Constitutional right available to all citizens. Judges have the power, of course, to throw out cases that are truly frivolous. Nonetheless there are measures in the bill to begin to address what abuses may exist. Are you aware of them? What is your objection to them?

&quot;no one on the right is saying pre existing conditions shouldn’t be covered,&quot;

Really? No one? Then why do we have the system that we do? Why did Republicans not do anything to change it when they had full power in DC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How about this idea Mr President….. get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada&#8221;</p>
<p>So what do they then get back in return?</p>
<p>&#8220;….. or how about improving portability and accessibility of policies across state lines….&#8221;</p>
<p>Its in the bill.</p>
<p>&#8220;. and yes many lawsuits are valid, but just as many are not. So in the interest of doing what’s right and fair, yeah reel in attorneys and their frivolous law suits…..&#8221;</p>
<p>How? Being able to have your day in court is a core Constitutional right available to all citizens. Judges have the power, of course, to throw out cases that are truly frivolous. Nonetheless there are measures in the bill to begin to address what abuses may exist. Are you aware of them? What is your objection to them?</p>
<p>&#8220;no one on the right is saying pre existing conditions shouldn’t be covered,&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? No one? Then why do we have the system that we do? Why did Republicans not do anything to change it when they had full power in DC?</p>
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		<title>By: Spartann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Tano.....

Did your gift from Obama arrive yet... they were sent out last week compliments of the White House........if not I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get it any day now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Tano&#8230;..</p>
<p>Did your gift from Obama arrive yet&#8230; they were sent out last week compliments of the White House&#8230;&#8230;..if not I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get it any day now:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549571</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8

Its hard to take your comment seriously, because it sounds to me like you believe that the only way for there to be a bipartisan resolution to this issue (or any other issue, I imagine), is for the Republicans, or the conservative or libertarian Republicans, to get all they want.

As if you guys had actually won a majority.

I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Democrats have a majority, Obama has a mandate, and as a result, whatever final bill emerges - even if it is a beautiful example of bipartisanship - will reflect Democratic ideas at least as much as Republican ideas, and probably, properly, more so.

We all know, or can well imagine, what kind of &quot;reform&quot; you might institute if you had your way, completely. The interesting question though, is this: what ideas put forth by the Democrats, that you oppose, would you be willing to accept as part of the negotiation.

Since it really isn&#039;t going to be you doing the negotiating, you needn&#039;t worry about tipping your hand here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8</p>
<p>Its hard to take your comment seriously, because it sounds to me like you believe that the only way for there to be a bipartisan resolution to this issue (or any other issue, I imagine), is for the Republicans, or the conservative or libertarian Republicans, to get all they want.</p>
<p>As if you guys had actually won a majority.</p>
<p>I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Democrats have a majority, Obama has a mandate, and as a result, whatever final bill emerges &#8211; even if it is a beautiful example of bipartisanship &#8211; will reflect Democratic ideas at least as much as Republican ideas, and probably, properly, more so.</p>
<p>We all know, or can well imagine, what kind of &#8220;reform&#8221; you might institute if you had your way, completely. The interesting question though, is this: what ideas put forth by the Democrats, that you oppose, would you be willing to accept as part of the negotiation.</p>
<p>Since it really isn&#8217;t going to be you doing the negotiating, you needn&#8217;t worry about tipping your hand here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there are a lot of Republican ideas in the current bill. Ezra Klien has a good synopsis in WaPo today - &lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/02/five_compronises_in_health_car.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there are a lot of Republican ideas in the current bill. Ezra Klien has a good synopsis in WaPo today &#8211; <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/02/five_compronises_in_health_car.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fyi...tort reform is already part of the current health care bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi&#8230;tort reform is already part of the current health care bill</p>
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		<title>By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted B. (Charging Rhino)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While a good start, I&#039;d rather the whole session be closed to the press and off-the-record.  It&#039;s time for some frank and blunt policy discussion...not posturing for the boob-tube and &quot;caught-ya&quot; sound-bites by both sides.  Transparency has it&#039;s role in open debate for identifying and tracking actual legislation and amendments...but the horse-trading and broad-brush policy compromises need to be done in an environment where frankness and national welfare trump sound-bites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a good start, I&#8217;d rather the whole session be closed to the press and off-the-record.  It&#8217;s time for some frank and blunt policy discussion&#8230;not posturing for the boob-tube and &#8220;caught-ya&#8221; sound-bites by both sides.  Transparency has it&#8217;s role in open debate for identifying and tracking actual legislation and amendments&#8230;but the horse-trading and broad-brush policy compromises need to be done in an environment where frankness and national welfare trump sound-bites.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the toy the Obama administration is sending out to disgruntled progressives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the toy the Obama administration is sending out to disgruntled progressives:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spartann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spend..... Spend..... Spend..... I thought &quot;Let&#039;s Make a Deal&quot; went off the air years ago..... Why does this president continue to ignore what got us in to this mess, didn&#039;t he get the memo saying you can&#039;t counter the greed and spending of the past by adopting new policies filled with even more greed and bigger spending?

How about this idea Mr President..... get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada..... or how about improving portability and accessibility of policies across state lines..... and yes many lawsuits are valid, but just as many are not. So in the interest of doing what&#039;s right and fair, yeah reel in attorneys and their frivolous law suits.....  

Although the administration and the MSM like to gin things up... no one on the right is saying pre existing conditions shouldn&#039;t be covered, or people shouldn&#039;t have access to healthcare insurance...... rather the GOP&#039;s position is based on adopting a more fiscally responsible path to achieving the same ideals. 

Sure, now after a year of failed attempts to get his bill passed, Mr Obama wants to televise the festivities on February 25th.... Oh boy, more fun and games..... wait a minute, didn&#039;t he just tell us &quot;NOT&quot; to watch cable news? When you really think about it, the whole thing doesn&#039;t make sense, what kind of smart business practice is it anyway? Hell, I got a better idea, video tape the meeting and sell the DVDs after 2AM during an infommercial...... all payments going directly in to the administration&#039;s new slush fund.....let him spend that money any way he wants.

Memo to president:  &quot;If life was fair roses wouldn&#039;t have thorns.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spend&#8230;.. Spend&#8230;.. Spend&#8230;.. I thought &#8220;Let&#8217;s Make a Deal&#8221; went off the air years ago&#8230;.. Why does this president continue to ignore what got us in to this mess, didn&#8217;t he get the memo saying you can&#8217;t counter the greed and spending of the past by adopting new policies filled with even more greed and bigger spending?</p>
<p>How about this idea Mr President&#8230;.. get rid of the deal you cut with Big Pharma limiting the ability to purchase lower cost drugs in Canada&#8230;.. or how about improving portability and accessibility of policies across state lines&#8230;.. and yes many lawsuits are valid, but just as many are not. So in the interest of doing what&#8217;s right and fair, yeah reel in attorneys and their frivolous law suits&#8230;..  </p>
<p>Although the administration and the MSM like to gin things up&#8230; no one on the right is saying pre existing conditions shouldn&#8217;t be covered, or people shouldn&#8217;t have access to healthcare insurance&#8230;&#8230; rather the GOP&#8217;s position is based on adopting a more fiscally responsible path to achieving the same ideals. </p>
<p>Sure, now after a year of failed attempts to get his bill passed, Mr Obama wants to televise the festivities on February 25th&#8230;. Oh boy, more fun and games&#8230;.. wait a minute, didn&#8217;t he just tell us &#8220;NOT&#8221; to watch cable news? When you really think about it, the whole thing doesn&#8217;t make sense, what kind of smart business practice is it anyway? Hell, I got a better idea, video tape the meeting and sell the DVDs after 2AM during an infommercial&#8230;&#8230; all payments going directly in to the administration&#8217;s new slush fund&#8230;..let him spend that money any way he wants.</p>
<p>Memo to president:  &#8220;If life was fair roses wouldn&#8217;t have thorns.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama’s Smart Move in Health Care Debate, but it’s fraught with risks for Democrats&lt;/blockquote&gt;It&#039;s fraught with risks for Republicans.  The world will see if they have learned anything since the disastrous George Bush days of continually increasing domestic spending and generally caving into the Democrat viewpoint on spending.&lt;blockquote&gt;[Obama would] also look good if Republicans are scattershot in their opposition, saying “No” for the sake of opposing the president&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think it would be better, both for the policy outcome (i.e. for America) and for the Republicans politically, if they did that.  Better than if they merely caved into Democrat premises (e.g., the premise that government should play a role in health care) or let themselves be used.

What the Republicans should really do is, focus on what a free-market health care reform would look like, and then advance key elements of it as &lt;em&gt;preconditions&lt;/em&gt; for the summit.  Preconditions to constrain Obama if he accepts them, and make Obama look bad when he refuses them.  Preconditions like:

- No public option.
- No mandates.
- No net increase in government spending on health care
- No net increase in government regulation of health care
- No net increase in government taxes on health care
- Meaningful tort reform is a must.
- Permitting interstate competition is a must.

What the summit is left to discuss would be matters such as, for example, what is the best free-market change to make to the tax code.  (Is it better to eliminate the employer deduction for health insurance, or to give independents and the unemployed a counteracting personal deduction for health insurance?  Etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama’s Smart Move in Health Care Debate, but it’s fraught with risks for Democrats</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s fraught with risks for Republicans.  The world will see if they have learned anything since the disastrous George Bush days of continually increasing domestic spending and generally caving into the Democrat viewpoint on spending.<br />
<blockquote>[Obama would] also look good if Republicans are scattershot in their opposition, saying “No” for the sake of opposing the president</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it would be better, both for the policy outcome (i.e. for America) and for the Republicans politically, if they did that.  Better than if they merely caved into Democrat premises (e.g., the premise that government should play a role in health care) or let themselves be used.</p>
<p>What the Republicans should really do is, focus on what a free-market health care reform would look like, and then advance key elements of it as <em>preconditions</em> for the summit.  Preconditions to constrain Obama if he accepts them, and make Obama look bad when he refuses them.  Preconditions like:</p>
<p>- No public option.<br />
- No mandates.<br />
- No net increase in government spending on health care<br />
- No net increase in government regulation of health care<br />
- No net increase in government taxes on health care<br />
- Meaningful tort reform is a must.<br />
- Permitting interstate competition is a must.</p>
<p>What the summit is left to discuss would be matters such as, for example, what is the best free-market change to make to the tax code.  (Is it better to eliminate the employer deduction for health insurance, or to give independents and the unemployed a counteracting personal deduction for health insurance?  Etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: heliotrope</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549495</link>
		<dc:creator>heliotrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans should have a two part presentation. Part one should be bullet points of the 3,000 (plus or minus) budget busters in the current plan (Ha ha) that must be neutralized. Part two should address insurance portability, solving the Medicare/Medicaid revenue shortfalls, pre-existing condition insurance, ending the costs of malpractice insurance and excessive defensive testing to avoid malpractice suits. Furthermore, they should make the case for access to healthcare through an &quot;uninsured patient&quot; system rather than imposing top-down universal health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans should have a two part presentation. Part one should be bullet points of the 3,000 (plus or minus) budget busters in the current plan (Ha ha) that must be neutralized. Part two should address insurance portability, solving the Medicare/Medicaid revenue shortfalls, pre-existing condition insurance, ending the costs of malpractice insurance and excessive defensive testing to avoid malpractice suits. Furthermore, they should make the case for access to healthcare through an &#8220;uninsured patient&#8221; system rather than imposing top-down universal health care.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549493</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time believing that Obama is sincere in anything he says.  He´s looking to save the Democrats majority in November. He wants to ram through his agenda. Nothing else is more important to him. The people be damned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time believing that Obama is sincere in anything he says.  He´s looking to save the Democrats majority in November. He wants to ram through his agenda. Nothing else is more important to him. The people be damned!</p>
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		<title>By: gael</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549479</link>
		<dc:creator>gael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that it will be &quot;televised later&quot;...after the snips, pastes, and photoshopping, voice overs, and coverups have been editted in - no doubt!!
show it live!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that it will be &#8220;televised later&#8221;&#8230;after the snips, pastes, and photoshopping, voice overs, and coverups have been editted in &#8211; no doubt!!<br />
show it live!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bloodthirsty Liberal &#187; So, Now He Wants to Talk</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/08/obamas-smart-move-in-health-care-debate-but-its-fraught-with-risks-for-democrats-huge-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-549471</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloodthirsty Liberal &#187; So, Now He Wants to Talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sounds like the Republicans have the same thing in mind: The best way to start on real, bipartisan reform would be to scrap those bills and focus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sounds like the Republicans have the same thing in mind: The best way to start on real, bipartisan reform would be to scrap those bills and focus [...]</p>
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