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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Leaning Toward Meg, Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-552853</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Leaning Toward Meg, Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my choice in the California gubernatorial primary, I wrote last week, &#8220;I always thought I’d just wait until a few days before the primary and vote for whoever was pollin...Moonbeam Brown.&#8221;  If the latest polls are any indication, that&#8217;ll be Meg Whitman: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my choice in the California gubernatorial primary, I wrote last week, &#8220;I always thought I’d just wait until a few days before the primary and vote for whoever was pollin&#8230;Moonbeam Brown.&#8221;  If the latest polls are any indication, that&#8217;ll be Meg Whitman: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nan G</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-550697</link>
		<dc:creator>Nan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Meg, too.
I worry about how any gov (R or D) will be able to get union employee pension promises back in line with reality.
But, if we can keep that 50% budget prop from passing we at least have a chance.
Our local Dems are like Obama: they think they should just tax more and never cut a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Meg, too.<br />
I worry about how any gov (R or D) will be able to get union employee pension promises back in line with reality.<br />
But, if we can keep that 50% budget prop from passing we at least have a chance.<br />
Our local Dems are like Obama: they think they should just tax more and never cut a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-550129</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, he&#039;s running for Senate...my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, he&#8217;s running for Senate&#8230;my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-550128</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Tom Campbell was running? What happened to him? Gay-friendly fiscal conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Tom Campbell was running? What happened to him? Gay-friendly fiscal conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-550037</link>
		<dc:creator>HCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of the matter is, is that nothing illegal happen.  An aurgument was made by Murphy that with a 30 pt Whitman lead, the 2 sides could spend upteen millions of dollars giving Brown ammunition for the general election or the two could work together to elect the candidate that is way ahead in the polls, money and organization.  Poizner decided to do the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of the matter is, is that nothing illegal happen.  An aurgument was made by Murphy that with a 30 pt Whitman lead, the 2 sides could spend upteen millions of dollars giving Brown ammunition for the general election or the two could work together to elect the candidate that is way ahead in the polls, money and organization.  Poizner decided to do the former.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-549936</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But part of your point is, since it is standard, why try to make a legal case of it?  Why bother law enforcement with it?  Conceded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But part of your point is, since it is standard, why try to make a legal case of it?  Why bother law enforcement with it?  Conceded.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-549932</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ILC, this is just standard political practice. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Since my comment already acknowledged that, repeating it is not much of an answer.&lt;blockquote&gt;He sounded insecure rather than defiant&lt;/blockquote&gt;So if he did the same thing, but had sounded more defiant, you would have written a different post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ILC, this is just standard political practice. </p></blockquote>
<p>Since my comment already acknowledged that, repeating it is not much of an answer.<br />
<blockquote>He sounded insecure rather than defiant</p></blockquote>
<p>So if he did the same thing, but had sounded more defiant, you would have written a different post?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonicfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonicfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t even started to think about this yet, so I don&#039;t know which I&#039;d support... if any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t even started to think about this yet, so I don&#8217;t know which I&#8217;d support&#8230; if any.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Daniel Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Daniel Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ILC, this is just standard political practice.  It would be one thing if Poizner decried the actions, quite another to make a federal, er, state case out of it.

He sounded insecure rather than defiant, not the man you want facing a spendthrift Democratic legislature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ILC, this is just standard political practice.  It would be one thing if Poizner decried the actions, quite another to make a federal, er, state case out of it.</p>
<p>He sounded insecure rather than defiant, not the man you want facing a spendthrift Democratic legislature.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-549915</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(That is 100% true, she was nice and a great person to talk to, but I am very slightly kidding in that I think she might have been one of his campaign workers or volunteers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(That is 100% true, she was nice and a great person to talk to, but I am very slightly kidding in that I think she might have been one of his campaign workers or volunteers.)</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-549906</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Plus, that time I was down last summer and we went to Pride and hung out with the LCR folks a bit, I met a nice lady who was enthusiastic about Poizner.  Sorry I forget her name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Plus, that time I was down last summer and we went to Pride and hung out with the LCR folks a bit, I met a nice lady who was enthusiastic about Poizner.  Sorry I forget her name.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/02/09/leaning-toward-meg-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-549903</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, just to play devil&#039;s advocate for a moment: Doesn&#039;t Poizner have kind of a point?  From your Skelton link:&lt;blockquote&gt;Murphy [wrote to a Poizner associate]: &quot;We could unite [the] entire party behind Steve right now to build a serious race against Diane (sic) F in 2012. . . . Thought I&#039;d try one more time before it&#039;s 1914.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That *is* bribery, and the politicos arranging electoral outcomes.  You support me for President now, I&#039;ll support your son Joe for MA office in 1944.

Now, Skelton, you and others have made the point that it is standard political deal-making.  Quite so.  And isn&#039;t standard political deal-making part of what has brought us  to the present crisis?  I have no particular support for Poizner, indeed I barely know about him.  I&#039;m just struck by the blase attitude in the Skelton article.  Another sample:&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Politics is all about cutting deals,&quot; notes Democratic strategist Darry Sragow...
Trying to coerce your opponent out of a race is time-honored politics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;True.  And yet at the same time: Ew!  (hey, it rhymes ;-) )  I mean, isn&#039;t that the attitude that just gave us ObamaCare complete with Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback, etc.?  Poizner may be for all I know a weenie who is unfit to govern; I&#039;m just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, just to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a moment: Doesn&#8217;t Poizner have kind of a point?  From your Skelton link:<br />
<blockquote>Murphy [wrote to a Poizner associate]: &#8220;We could unite [the] entire party behind Steve right now to build a serious race against Diane (sic) F in 2012. . . . Thought I&#8217;d try one more time before it&#8217;s 1914.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That *is* bribery, and the politicos arranging electoral outcomes.  You support me for President now, I&#8217;ll support your son Joe for MA office in 1944.</p>
<p>Now, Skelton, you and others have made the point that it is standard political deal-making.  Quite so.  And isn&#8217;t standard political deal-making part of what has brought us  to the present crisis?  I have no particular support for Poizner, indeed I barely know about him.  I&#8217;m just struck by the blase attitude in the Skelton article.  Another sample:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Politics is all about cutting deals,&#8221; notes Democratic strategist Darry Sragow&#8230;<br />
Trying to coerce your opponent out of a race is time-honored politics.</p></blockquote>
<p>True.  And yet at the same time: Ew!  (hey, it rhymes <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )  I mean, isn&#8217;t that the attitude that just gave us ObamaCare complete with Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback, etc.?  Poizner may be for all I know a weenie who is unfit to govern; I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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