Comments on: Panel on Gay Conservatives Includes No Gay American Conservatives

By: A Conservative Teacher

A Conservative Teacher — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:20:38 +0000

How many conservative teachers were up there?

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:03:33 +0000

- The kind who is about as much a conservative as I am, say, a statist believer in Big Government. (You can probably find 1 or 2 tiny issues where I am.)
Etc.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:51:40 +0000

Andrew Sullivan is a kind of conservative

Yes. Any of these would do:
- The phony kind.
- The kind who’s not.
- The kind who is actually a dishonest leftist and statist.
- The kind whose mind is so addled by some combination of pot, sex addiction and AIDS drugs, and God knows what else, that he has become a leftist.
Etc.

By: BobN

BobN — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:01:30 +0000

dang… “king” = “kind”

By: BobN

BobN — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:01:08 +0000

What nonsense. Andrew Sullivan is a kind of conservative. He’s clearly not YOUR king of conservative.

Instead of whining about him, why not spend your efforts to make your “conservative movement” less anti-gay?

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:14:14 +0000

Sullivan doesnt HAVE to attack conservatives to lose his conservative credentials, he gave them up willingly when he began cheerleading Obama and his big government statist agenda.

By: B. Daniel Blatt

B. Daniel Blatt — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:06:02 +0000

Robert, that is what I feared–and why I didn’t watch it–having used the time more productively to put the finishing touches on research for first draft of a chapter of my dissertation.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:45:47 +0000

Having watched this, my mind remains unchanged. The man is given to the worst kind of hysterics and seems only interested in attacking people he does not agree with. He assumes no positive intent with regard to people who hold opinions different than his own and the thought that sane people might believe this man represents myself and my views and disturbing to say the least.

By: Jill Flyer

Jill Flyer — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:48:03 +0000

http://www.facebook.com/CatoInstitute. This FB page for comments…GO! Yours are the voices that people need to hear!

By: Jill Flyer

Jill Flyer — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:39:54 +0000

Glad I checked out your opinions and learned of this. I just commented at the Cato Institute’s page and referenced your website as a place to go for an honest, thorough and thoughtful gay conservative perspective. I’m going back now to ask WTH? Why didn’t they invite YOU?

By: B. Daniel Blatt

B. Daniel Blatt — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:02:46 +0000

Rick, did you even read the post to which you attach you comment? I indicate that my co-blogger was asked to participate in C-PAC. Kind of sounds like being invited to the table.

By: GayPatriot

GayPatriot — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:46:06 +0000

Dan- Thanks for this post. I actually spent the early part of this week contacting Cato and protesting their allegation that Sullivan is a “conservative”.

I will have a follow-up to this story later…. but after the panel takes place.

Cloak-n-dagger, huh?

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:59:55 +0000

Really? Is there A PLACE for me in conservatism and conservative politic? How do I get my friends to understand conservative principles if we haven’t even been invited to the table yet? Can you imagine ANY OTHER situation where gay people would be asked to put up with ANY presentation entitled “Is There a Place for Gay People in XXXXX?”

By: Roberto

Roberto — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:30:53 +0000

Maybe their decision to invite Andrew was based on his participation on the Chris Matthews Show. I thnk Chris refers to him as their resident conservative.

By: V the K

V the K — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:58:47 +0000

If there is a Q&A, someone should definitely ask St. Andrew about Sarah Palin’s magic uterus.

By: Graumagus

Graumagus — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:45:58 +0000

Even if they could make a plausible case that Sullivan could be considered a Conservative (they can’t), CATO should have avoided him like the plague give his increasingly erratic behavior, especially his obsession with what uterus Trig Palin issued forth from.

This is like inviting Charles Johnson to promote ideas encouraging free, open, and uncensored debate in blog comments.

By: DoDoGuRu

DoDoGuRu — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:45:40 +0000

Andrew Sullivan is about as conservative as Joe Solomnese.

No, really. Compare what they say and the stands they take since the day Bush broke Andrew’s heart on gay marriage. $5 says Joe Solomnese is on Andrew’s right.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:16:35 +0000

One has to behave like a conservative to actually have conservative credentials. Andrew Sullivan does nothing of the sort, and hasn’t for some time.

Ask the typical gay conservative who reads this blog whether or not they believe Andrew Sullivan represents even a small fraction of their views on any given subject; I think you might have a hard time finding many that would answer in the affirmative.

Personally, CATO’s choice disgusts me. The very notion of it is offensive.

By: American Elephant

American Elephant — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:17:46 +0000

I hope you will forward your post to CATO. They need to know how gay conservatives feel about their “gay conservative” event. You’re right on the money. Sullivan has no business being on that panel. I’m sure he’s still gay, but he can hardly still be called anything close to conservative. Having him represent gay conservatives is a major faux pax on CATO’s part.

[Done. Sent this post to a friend at Cato as soon as I posted it. --Dan]

By: daftpunkydavid

daftpunkydavid — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:07:22 +0000

there’s no denying the list of conservatives of lgbt persuasion has increased since the 1990′s (thank you jesus!) but i don’t know that anyone who bad-mouths the gop automatically sees his/her conservative credentials disqualified; and i’m curious to know why anyone would argue that.

[Fair point, criticism of the GOP alone does not mean one is not a conservative. It's not that he badmouths the GOP automatically, it's that Sullivan does it as if by rote. And rarely shows any understand of any conservatives. And that he hasn't participated in any conservative or GOP organization in America. --Dan]

if that were true, would it also apply to people on the left such as john avarosis who have badmouthed both the democratic party and democratic party lap dogs (e.g. the hrc)?