Obama: The Great Divider
I had been kicking around a number of posts about the latest health care endgame which, if the House Deem-and-Pass of the Senate bill plus amendments go through will not really be the endgame, but the end of the beginning of the first round of the endgame. Because from there, it’ll go back to the Senate and then may end up bouncing between the Houses for a while until they come up with some kind of resolution, that is, if Harry Reid comes up with the 51 votes he needs to proceed in the Senate. And so far he hasn’t.
And should any version of Obamacare pass, we’ll move into a new era, an era inaugurated by Obama, Pelosi and Reid on January 20, 2010 (or thereabouts) when they decided to proceed with this mess even though, by then, it was abundantly clear that the American people didn’t want to proceed with this mess.
Future Congresses will have to address the cost increases associated with this, perhaps even moving to repeal it. Should that happen, animosity between a Republican Congress and Democratic President could keep the issue at the forefront of the national conversation for years to come. And this is not the issue that the American people want at the forefront of our public debate at this moment.
Should, however, Obamacare pass, repeal may well soon join jobs and the deficit as a top national priority.
The divisions in the American body politic that have come out in the last few months of debate will only be increased and animosities intensified. Obama may have been elected to heal a divided nation, but he has instead accomplished the opposite–rubbing salt into the wounds and ripping open new ones.
Peggy Noonan puts it better than I ever could:
And so it ends, with a health-care vote expected this weekend. I wonder at what point the administration will realize it wasn’t worth it—worth the discord, worth the diminution in popularity and prestige, worth the deepening of the great divide. What has been lost is so vivid, what has been gained so amorphous, blurry and likely illusory. Memo to future presidents: Never stake your entire survival on the painful passing of a bad bill. Never take the country down the road to Demon Pass.
And with anything by Peggy, read the whole thing, but I will say that this time (and not for the first time), I don’t agree with every word of the Athena of punditry. Her first sentence is wrong. It doesn’t end with the vote this weekend. It only continues.
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Peggy Noonan should have thought of this stuff back when she was spending her column inches working for Obama’s election. She gets no respect from me.
Comment by DaveP. — March 20, 2010 @ 9:09 am - March 20, 2010
“I wonder at what point the administration will realize it wasn’t worth it…”
What an utterly bizarre sentiment. She must be so disconnected from reality, sitting in her little gilded cage, that she gets the vapors over the fact that there was a good ol’ political down and dirty fight. Wasn’t worth it? 30 million people brought into the health insurance universe – the end of the practice of denying insurance to the previously sick, or yanking it from those who get sick…maybe things that Queen Peggy doesn’t worry about – but they are facts that make this “worth it” no matter how upset Mitch and John get.
“—worth the discord,”
funny how that never seems to bother her when Republican presidents set out to fulfill their campaign promises…
“worth the diminution in popularity”
Wooooo…Obama has lost about 4 or 5 points in popularity over the past 9 months, and is sitting at a better place than Peggy’s old boss was at this point in his presidency. If a president is unwilling to spend his political capital achieving what he believes is right for the country, then what good would he be to anyone?
“worth the deepening of the great divide”
Surely she knows better than that. As she lived the experience in the early eighties, a “uniting” presidency only emerges once the opposition has been firmly put in its place. At some point in the very near future, the Republicans will realize that they have lost, that Obama will have emerged much stronger from having won this fight, and that their future prospects will be brighter as a function of how much they will be willing to be a constructive opposition rather than an absolutist opposition. Then we will all be able to bask in the glow of a more “unified” country.
Comment by Tano — March 20, 2010 @ 9:55 am - March 20, 2010
Oh, where to start!
First, if an individual goes into an emergency room needing hospitalization, that individual cannot be turned down. Many times a hospital will do the paperwork if the individual could have been covered by some program such as Medicaid, but in such cases such as illegal aliens, they just swallow the cost.
Second, experimental treatments or new drugs may be rarely covered in private insurance, but they are never covered in government supplied insurance, such as that for the armed forces. If you are retired military, you are probably using drugs that came into the market 50 to 40 years ago which are cheaper and not the new improved drug therapies.
Third, a look at other “industrialized” nations with socialized medicine shows that those that can afford it go elsewhere for treatment while the majority remain to receive an inferior service, that since they are not aware of the possibility of better, they do not complain about.
For example, a friend who is British called when her sister was hospitalized to talk to my husband who is a doctor. I could hear my husband’s side of the conversation, and realized he didn’t want to say anything bad about the treatment, but when he jung up and I asked him about it, he said “I would have done things differently.” A little bit more prying and it turns out the woman was not given the treatment which could have saved her life because she was over 55, but since there was nothing the family could do about it (get better care for the woman by going elsewhere or paying out of pocket) my husband didn’t want to mention anything.
Another item which constantly gets brought up by supporters of socialized medicine is infant mortality in other countries that have it. I have actually looked at the data for Sweden and in that instance if you plot the data you see that the drop in infant mortality tapers and plateaus in the late 1960′s. Guess when socialized medicine started in Sweden? Could it be that improved numbers in infant mortality is due to better economic environment for the general population and not to the government providing medical care?
Fourth, my own mother has been denied admission into a hospital, though she really needed it, because she has Medicare and did not meet medicare admission criteria based on her test results. My husband told me the reason she did not meet it is because she is skin and bones and has no muscle so that some of the values they are looking at are “false” because you have to take into account the muscle mass of the person. But once you have such criteria made into law all a hospital administrator is going to look at is if the “value” falls within those prescribed.
I have anecdotal evidence from all over Europe from friends and friends of friends about people having to wait long periods of time for treatment, but we only find that unacceptable in the US because it is not the “norm” here yet! Once everyone except the rich are at the same level of mediocracy no one will notice…
Are there problem with our system? Yes! Unfortunately, from the experience of other countries and our own Medicare, Medicaid systems the data is there for those who wish to be well informed, the answer is not government provided health care.
Unfortunately, too many people are happy just going on what “feels” like the right thing to do and not on how successful or not such programs have been.
Comment by Iris — March 20, 2010 @ 10:39 am - March 20, 2010
I still don’t understand how a rational person in 2008 could have expected anything else.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 20, 2010 @ 10:46 am - March 20, 2010
I mean, I read the text of his so-called “big” speech on race to deal with the Wright issue. I believe that was the one where Obama publicly slurred his grandmother as a racist “typical white person” or whatever it was. And other than that – other than his evasive, sleazy throwing his own grandmother under the bus – that speech didn’t say much. It didn’t take responsibility for anything. It didn’t resolve anything. And that’s when I knew Obama was worse than an empty suit: he was an empty suit with delusions of grandeur, a false hope, and probably a limousine liberal, the shallow kind who dabbles in the Jeremiah Wright type of worldview because it makes them feel ‘cool’.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 20, 2010 @ 10:53 am - March 20, 2010
Sorry, meant to type “limousine socialist”.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 20, 2010 @ 10:54 am - March 20, 2010
People were not rational. Like Tano, they saw black skin and heard no “Negro dialect” and thought they were doing a good thing by supporting a minority token, rationalizing that he sounded nice and centrist.
Even Jeremiah Wright said Obama would say anything to get elected, whether he meant it or not. The fury against Obama has only just begun.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 20, 2010 @ 10:54 am - March 20, 2010
Tardo, PROMISE me you will be here November 7, 2012! Telling us how even though Obama lost the election, he is just as popular as he was in January of 2009!
Comment by American Elephant — March 20, 2010 @ 10:55 am - March 20, 2010
Oh my, part of that so called 30 million are illegals and that is fact! The others are there by choice too, there are only a few that are truly rejected and those are the ones that could be helped by our current back up system and the charity of millions of people that give for that exact reason, but we never hear about those people believe me they are there. The biggest so called company that rejects people is the government/medicare/medicaid and that is another fact. So for you to make it sound all noble, that the moron in chief is soooo principled is a bunch of crap and you know it. THIS IS ABOUT MONEY AND POWER!!!!!!!!!! To prove this fact look at how they have to get this crap sandwich to pass, with bribes and sleazy deals and all the arm twisting. In CA they are making deals with WATER!!!!!!! that is so evil it’s disgusting!!! Those poor people have been begging to have their water turned back on for over a year!!!! Their farms have dried up it’s a desert in the most fertile land in America!! The unemployment is over 40% and they use it as a bribe!! over protecting a fish????!!!! And now they will ALLOW 25% of the water to flow if these guys from CA will vote yes!!!!!!! WATER!!! WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?????? Are we on a different planet??????? For 8 yrs I listened to alllllllll the bitching and whining about Bush was so eeeeevvviiiillllllll, are you kidding me???? But you are so right on that Bush screwed us in so many different ways and it’s his fault we have Obama. Bush was a liberal in a Republicans seat all right but democrats get in and they do all the things they bitched about and then some and this is what they are doing to us?>??????? Again who in there right mind can defend this last year, who can defend this mess this evil mess…….This bill is the opposite of what comes out of this presidents mouth it always has been. For once some of the Republicans are finally fighting for us but we the people had to rise up, and that’s how it should be. We have been asleep and lazy for too long, we can never not pay attention again, NEVER!! We will see if there will be some Democrats left in their party on how they vote today now wont we. We will see, we will truly see. They will be deciding on how hard our life is going to be, and people it will be hard…..
Comment by jann — March 20, 2010 @ 10:57 am - March 20, 2010
Oh, and BTW, I keep meaning to write about the “Bradley Effect.”
We heard about it a lot before the election when people were suggesting Obama was polling better than his actual support.
Despite the fact that this UNPOPULAR president’s numbers are now down in the mid 40′s, I think Obama has and continues to benefit from the Bradley Effect now that he is president.
Its why ALL his policies poll so abysmally low, but people still approve of him as a person. Very simple, they are afraid someone will consider them racist if they claim not to like the black president.
And where would they get that idea????
Gee, perhaps from the all-white staffs at MSNBC, CNN, and the rest of the lib media?
Comment by American Elephant — March 20, 2010 @ 11:00 am - March 20, 2010
What a shame Peggy Noonan didn’t realize what a FRAUD Obama was before he was elected. She should be ashamed of all the puff pieces and adulation she heaped upon this charlatan.
If she had seen through the snake oil earlier we might have avoided electing this ASS!
Comment by Mike — March 20, 2010 @ 11:09 am - March 20, 2010
If the health care scam passes it will put this nation at the brink of a major Constitutional crisis. It will also be a first in US history as it will be the first time the government has required US citizens to buy anything! Further, if this scam passes into law it will greatly expand the powers and authority of the IRS. Under this bill you will be required to report to the IRS MONTHLY so that they can determine IF you have what our government considers to be “appropriately mandated health insurance coverage.” If the IRS determines that you do not then they can penalize you with a fine of up to $2200 AND they also will have the option of arresting you and taking you to jail. Of course the grand question will be what the IRS considers to be “appropriate mandated health insurance coverage.” Since the IRS has a history of changing regulations like we change underwear I’m sure that one month it will be this and next month it will be that.
Barack Obama has done anything BUT heal a divided nation. He, in fact, has, as you say, rubbed salt into the wounds and ripped open new wounds! He continues to spout his lies and deceptions and when confronted he simply thinks nothing of what he has promised or said in the past. Recall how he promised to “change the way Washington does business”? Well, in fact, he has done that but NOT in the way he promised. The back room deals, bribes, and threats have gotten WORSE under this adminstration not better. Remember how he promised to help the gay community with some of the issues faced for decades now? To date he has done NOTHING in this matter. He has thrown us a few crumbs on the floor and laughed as we lick them up! This man is a liar through and through and IF the gay community is depending on him, still, for “Change we can believe in” then we are wasting our time! What he’s giving us, instead, is NO change that we cannot believe in!
In the comments above (all of which are excellent btw) Iris says “Unfortunately, too many people are happy just going on what FEELS like the right thing to do and not on how successful or not such programs have been.” And here, I think, is one of the biggest problems of this administration….FEELING! Something may feel good and right BUT it might NOT be so good and right in the end. Feelings can be and often ARE misleading! How about logic? How about critical thinking? How about foresight and vision? If this administration is operating this nation based on feelings then we are in bigger trouble than any of us think.
Most likely the House is going to use DEMON PASS to ram this thing through and as your article points out it will NOT be the end but the beginning as this thing then goes to the Senate and on and on. The real danger in all this is the DEMON PASS and SLAUGHTER OPTION. Yesterday, BO said they would use the same Slaughter Option to ram through illegal immigration “reform” and give 30 million illegals in this nation amnesty. Then what comes after that? They use the option to confiscate our guns? They use the option to suspend the Constitution and Bill of Rights? They use the option to begin rounding up certain kind of people they consider “undesirables”? Maybe they’ll do what Pol Pot did and round up people who wear eye glasses. I hope everyone in this nation is starting to see where all this is going because Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are blatant Socialists.
Does anyone remember Obama sitting in Rev. Wright’s church for twenty something years listening to all the anti-America “sermons”? Don’t think for a second that Obama sat in that “church” for over 20 years listening to that stuff without influencing him! And the grand question is IF Obama did not agree with it, as he has claimed, then WHY did he listen to it for so long??? Of course he believed it and that is why he kept going to Wright’s church! BTW there was and still is much anti-gay “sermonizing” in that church.
Pelosi said last week that the health care bill is something that “Progressives” have been hoping for for the past 50 years. She’s absolutley right! It is exactly what the Socialists and Communists in our midst have been wanting for the past 50 years. Why? Because they have viewed socialized medicine as the first step towards a Marxist America and they have viewed it as a MAJOR first step. Those of us who are patriots have fought against socialized medicine for the past 50 years because we have known exactly what it would do to our nation and we have also know that the term “progessive” is a politically correct code word for the American Communists!
The divisions in our nation continue to expand. They continue to deepen. They are ripping our nation and our Constitution apart. Nowhere is this administration promoting or calling for real UNITY! In fact, the ideology of this administration seems to be one of “Divided we stand and DIVIDED we shall fall.” And, we WILL FALL if things keep going the way they are at present! But this too has always been a part of the Socialist plan for a Marxist AmeriKa. It’s the old war strategy of divide and CONQUER and that is exactly what is happening in our Republic today.
Over the course of the decades many legal immigrants have come to America from various Communist block countries seeking to throw off the shackles of oppression and human indignity. NEVER in their wildest NIGHTMARES did they ever think that the SOVIETS would follow them and come to America too. But, THEY HAVE. If not bodily then most certainly in ideological terms. These are sad and dangerous times for our great Republic!
Comment by Rob Lorinov — March 20, 2010 @ 11:23 am - March 20, 2010
I’ve lost respect for Peggy Noonan. I heard her speak in person, she made a big point about the need for the Republican Party to be a big tent. There should be room for Colin Powell, who endorsed Obama only because he is a black man.
But inclusion in her book means people to the left. She has no problem slamming the conservative. In this article Dan, that you beg us to read, she insults Glen Beck in a very unladylike manner.
I may not agree with Glen Beck, I may feel he is over the top. But where’s your big tent Peggy?
Still digging and trying to justify your mistaken vote last November???
Comment by Leah — March 20, 2010 @ 11:31 am - March 20, 2010
Tano lauds this:
Entirely bogus, but let’s play Tano’s game.
Let us assume that these 30 million people can not afford health insurance. (Not at all so, but let’s play along with Tano.) Put them under Medicaid after the IRS and other regulators have examined and certified them.
Require an insurance company about to deny insurance to send all the paperwork to the Obama Health Reform Insurance Agency and let the government issue “flood” insurance to cover them. Naturally, this is another unfunded entitlement liability, but Tano cares not a whit about unfunded entitlement liabilities and it would “insure” this group.
Require an insurance company about to yank insurance from those who get sick ….. see above.
Tano didn’t mention this, but why not let insurance companies shake out all their risky clients? The Obama Health Reform Insurance Agency can pick them up too and soon we will have an honest two tier health system. The insurance companies will have their network of doctors and hospitals paid by the private insurance companies and those who walk in with cash. Then, there will be the network of doctors and hospitals owned and run by the Obama Health Reform Insurance Agency.
In fact, why not set up the insurance industry medical system on a mutual system where all of the policy holders are stockholders as well and they are paid dividends and credits against their policy usage?
I will leave the description of the Obama Health Reform Insurance Agency network of doctors and hospitals up to Tano’s vivid imagination.
Understand that this plan would make unfunded entitlement liabilities skyrocket (like Obama predicts will happen electricity rates under his Cap and Trade scheme) but that is of zero concern to Tano.
Comment by heliotrope — March 20, 2010 @ 11:37 am - March 20, 2010
I am truly mystified that people are mystified about the Dems accepting the fall-out from their dismissal of the American people. Don’t they want to keep their jobs? Doesn’t President Postmodern want to be popular? Don’t they want to keep control of the House and Senate?
NONE of that matters. What matters is that they “fundamentally transform America” into an all-powerful, centralized socialist state. I used to think that the idea that they were following the Cloward-Piven strategy was nutty, but as they are NOT stupid, I can see no other reason for their actions now. If they can bring this country to its knees so that the kind of State that Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Obama and so many others have been dreaming of into being, ANY price is worth it.
Comment by 23eagle — March 20, 2010 @ 11:53 am - March 20, 2010
If Prohibition was the 20th-century’s greatest legislative blunder in terms of socio-political uninteded consequences, then Obamacare is shaping-up to the the 21st-century’s.
Let’s start with the IRS becoming the gatekeeper in providing health care. Just as they sniffed-around for speakeasies and back-hollows moonshine stills, they’ll be visiting your employer and your doctor.
“Subpoena, we don’t need no stinkin’ subpoena. …Ihr ausweis bitte.”
And once inacted, getting rid of Obamacare’s tentacles into the national economy will be like trying to uproot bamboo or kudzu…good luck with that.
Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — March 20, 2010 @ 12:05 pm - March 20, 2010
23eagle, might I add that they also see themselves as being in the mob that rules. Obama and Pelosi fire up their jets as rites of power and position and harangue the simple folk to lower their standards of living to save the planet.
These are all people who make claim to have created themselves and they ardently believe their own creation myths. They share this lunatic view with every dictator that has every ruled a playground or a country.
Comment by heliotrope — March 20, 2010 @ 12:11 pm - March 20, 2010
But will it work?
The Cloward-Piven strategy never said, “Be in power when the system falls, so that you (revolutionary leftists) will catch the blame for its fall.” They are stoking a backlash (Tea Party), and simultaneously, America’s bankruptcy. There is a good chance that whoever cleans up the leftists’ mess will do so by cutting government in a big way – because there will mathematically, financially be no alternative.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 20, 2010 @ 12:15 pm - March 20, 2010
I believe that communists think in grand terms for small areas. China and Russia were essentially ungovernable except by force. When Lenin/Stalin and Mao took over they built their dreamscapes in very small areas and forced compliance and death on the far reaches of their empires. In both countries, the ruling class had access to power and privilege and everyone else was at their mercy or lack thereof.
You can forget the pre-Obama United States. We are so indebted to ourselves and other nations that we are beyond bankruptcy. Even with all manner of new unfunded entitlement liabilities, the willing mob can still be bought with a government job and small change. By the time they reach an epiphany, they will have no recourse. Pity them, all disillusioned and enslaved by dreams turned to a reality that wishes it were a nightmare.
Meanwhile, the ruling elite will march on, always dredging up a new set of villains for the masses to blame.
Rare is the man of modest means who does not come out of Congress with a sizable increase in his fortune.
Comment by heliotrope — March 20, 2010 @ 1:22 pm - March 20, 2010
I’ve tried reasoning with my liberal friends (that is to say, most of them) about what this legislation will really do. They are impervious to reason. “But we need to do SOMETHING,” they say. No matter that that “something” will make things not better, but worse.
The Great Depression lasted for over a decade because Roosevelt deliberately deepened the crisis. He knew the sheeple would look past this, regarding him as their savior and keeping him in office. And so they did.
A new boob is born every minute.
Comment by Lori Heine — March 20, 2010 @ 2:01 pm - March 20, 2010
In my near 90 years I have never seen this country so divided as it has become in the last 6 months. Tano says, “Uniting the presidency only emerges once the opposition has been firmly put in their place”. But he does not tell us how Obama (who caused this division) intends on “putting us in our place”.
I would not be surprised if he is not looking south to Cuba where Castro has ruled over his united country for a life time. How did he do it? My neighbor in Denver, who came from Cuba, said that since he lived next to the prison, each morning at sunrise he would hear the gun fire. He knew that he would have to get out of the country soon since he had worked for an American company.
So they came! In any old boat that they could find and even on innertubes. Over half drowned before reaching America but Castro had and still has his united country.
Comment by John W — March 20, 2010 @ 2:24 pm - March 20, 2010
I used to like Peggy Noonan. But, her fawning over the Dear Leader during the presidential campaign does make me think twice when reading her commentaries. Had Miss Noonan NOT been so adoring of the Dear Leader, he may not have been elected president in the first place. Not that Sen. John “F— You” McCain would have been first prize at the county fair. But Sen. “F— You” McCain would never be doing what the Democrats are doing in the first place on so-called health care “reform”. And that show why the Dear Leader does NOT have the temperment to be president of the United States!
Comment by Mark J. Goluskin — March 20, 2010 @ 3:11 pm - March 20, 2010
We’ve been told for years that it was 47 million without insurance. What about the other 17 million?
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 20, 2010 @ 3:15 pm - March 20, 2010
Peggy Noonan has found her circle and she clucks at those who do not share her view of her idea of a big tent and who is in and who is out. She is one of the elephants in Dumbo who could not help gossiping about Mrs. Jumbo’s unfortunate child with the gigantic ears. Peggy is the equivalent of a Republican Prius with a Whole Foods bumper sticker and a need to be praised for bearing her Republican guilt with courage and sunny disposition. Let her eat cake. Ronald Reagan believed his words. Peggy Noonan is a lyricist with no skin in the game. She is as useful as dust and as convincing as …… well, Obama. Perhaps she should change churches.
Comment by heliotrope — March 20, 2010 @ 4:13 pm - March 20, 2010
DaveP couldn’t have said it better. Now all of a sudden she’s upset with Obama. This is something that peeves me about Republicans. They cannot deal with issues on principle. Obama made it plainly clear throughout the campaign what his intentions were. His hope and change mantra was pure BULLS**T! I hold the Republican party for this mess we are in. They have no integrity!!!
Comment by Scherie — March 20, 2010 @ 5:28 pm - March 20, 2010
I can easily imagine her in the 1960′s saying the same of desegregation. It’s always the same when there’s any significant movement forward on civil issues. The way things are, the status quo, are always more “vivid” than an unknown future after such things are changed. But if anything, we see how the status quo, even in it’s easier to grasp form, simply is not an answer to the health care issues.
And if if Peggy could own up beyond her biased, she would admit that Obama is doing the thing she seems to most admire in people – sticking to their guns. I never expect Noonan to be honest and non-partisan, but her folksy and flowery concern trolling is pretty blatant this time.
Comment by Countervail — March 20, 2010 @ 6:46 pm - March 20, 2010
How so? It was YOUR party integration tooth and nail. The dems are STILL the party of slavery and segregation.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 20, 2010 @ 8:14 pm - March 20, 2010
Huh?
“Elements of the past and the future combinin’ to make something not quite as good as either” – The ‘itcher
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 20, 2010 @ 8:45 pm - March 20, 2010
“Obama: The Great Divider” – brilliant, Daniel. I never thought of it that way. It’s obvious but true. For years the Dems said that about Bush but he doesn’t hold a candle to Obama.
Comment by Tom the Redhunter — March 20, 2010 @ 9:18 pm - March 20, 2010
#26: “The way things are, the status quo, are always more ‘vivid’ than an unknown future after such things are changed.”
If the “status quo”–which the Left has incessantly claimed is a dark, evil place where corporations rape the poor with sky-high insurance premiums and then systematically deny most claims for profit–is so VIVID, then why have the Democrats been unable to produce even a handful of credible victims of this shameful practice during the past year?
Comment by Sean A — March 20, 2010 @ 9:26 pm - March 20, 2010
In fact, Daniel, I liked your post so much I stole the title and theme for my blog, while giving you credit, of course!
Comment by Tom the Redhunter — March 20, 2010 @ 9:26 pm - March 20, 2010
The compassion of O’care:
A new analysis by the Joint Economic Committee and the House Ways & Means Committee minority staff estimates up to 16,500 new IRS personnel will be needed to collect, examine and audit new tax information mandated on families and small businesses in the ‘reconciliation’ bill being taken up by the U.S. House of Representatives this weekend.
Oh – I guess the Dems can be credited with creating new jobs.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/16500-more-IRS-agents-needed-to-enforce-Obamacare-88458137.html
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