Thanks to the diligence of Senate Republicans, seems the American people are getting (at least a little bit of) what they want. GOP Senators are forcing a new House vote on the health care bill.
A CBS News poll, a survey which skews left, found: “that nearly two in three Americans want Republicans in Congress to continue to challenge parts of the health care reform bill“:
The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges.
Seems then the action of Senate Republicans are just what the doctor ordered!
And there’s more to that poll that undermines Democratic talking point. Their much touted USA Today poll was indeed an outlier. Even with the bounce that the legislation was likely to get with its passage and media cheerleading, only 42 percent of Americans approve of the bill (46% disapprove).
Now, as to that Republican challenge. After consulting with the Senate’s parliamentarian, Senate Republicans found two provisions which conflict with Congress’ budget rules. They will thus have to be stripped from the “reconciliation” package before the Senate vote. Since both Houses must pass identical bills before they become law, the House will have to revote.
Let’s hope legislators keep in mind the results of the CBS survey. American people want to see more Republican challenges to this bill. But, then again, as we have seen these past four months (since last November), Democrats don’t respond well to the will of the people when it conflicts with their will for power.
Forget it. This is not a good outcome for the Republicans or anyone wanting the bill dead. After all their trying, the only parts they could find that violate the rules on reconciliation were two minor parts on student loan reform. The Democrats will just strip those portions out, hold another vote in the House, with no fear about passing it as they’ve passed effectively the same bill once and will be emboldened that they can pass it again.
So, onward to the Supreme Court?
This is just one the reconciliation bill, of course. The big one has already been signed into law.
I hate to keep bringing this up, but the reason Democrats are in power is that people VOTED FOR THEM. People wanted the Democrats to do what the Democrats said clearly they would do and which they are now doing. If they hadn’t wanted this, they wouldn’t have voted for them.
And if the American people are truly so fickle as to suddenly despise the very people they voted for, then they are fickle enough to turn around and support the health care bill in a few months.
Wow, what a crock of crap, the bill is law, all the GOP is doing is making themselves look like a bunch of tards.
This whole exercise this week is one of the most ridiculous things ever in the Congress. The GOP has been waging this battle, trying to find some tiny bit of language in the reconciliation bill to force a change, and thus send it back to the House – for what purpose? No purpose at all, except perhaps to waste everyones time. Seriously, what is the point of all this?
“Thanks to the diligence of Senate Republicans, seems the American people are getting (at least a little bit of) what they want.”
You know, you just might be correct about that Dan. Given the infinite stupidity of the GOP, this whole thing may well blow up in their face. Having found a few sentences which require the bill to go back to the House, the Dems may conclude the obvious – if it is being changed a bit, why not throw in a few extra changes? If it has to go back for a revote in the House, lets make it a worthwhile effort.
Lets throw in a public option, for example. Then, given that ALL the polls that ask about this show that a strong majority of Americans support a public option – then we can all agree with Dan that the American people might get what they really want out of this process.
Oh that would be so sweet….
Pure Monty Python. Infinite stupidity is so, well…… infinite and, so…, well ……. stupid it, it, it, MAY WELL blow up in their face.
lol, lol, lol ,lol, lol, lol and tee hee hee, tee hee hee, tee hee hee and Hah!!! Run away, Run away, Run away.
Just wondering, Tano ….. do you moon yourself in the mirror?
#4: “This whole exercise this week is one of the most ridiculous things ever in the Congress. The GOP has been waging this battle, trying to find some tiny bit of language in the reconciliation bill to force a change, and thus send it back to the House – for what purpose? No purpose at all, except perhaps to waste everyones time. Seriously, what is the point of all this?”
Unbelievable. The Democrats CHOSE to use the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian determined that two provisions violated the rules which requires the bill to return to the House. And big surprise–Tano is LIVID that the Democrats are actually required to follow the reconciliation rules and sees it as a waste of everyone’s time.
“Having found a few sentences which require the bill to go back to the House, the Dems may conclude the obvious – if it is being changed a bit, why not throw in a few extra changes? If it has to go back for a revote in the House, lets make it a worthwhile effort. Lets throw in a public option, for example.”
Why not? I’m sure that if the Democrats did just “throw in a public option” and then skip the vote altogether and “deem” the amended bill passed, you wouldn’t hesitate for one second to support such action. After all, a “strong majority of Americans” want a public option so why bother with the formal, protracted voting process? Health care reform is just too important to be bogged down by the arcane procedural minutiae in the Constitution, right Tano?
That is a beautiful line! 🙂
The only change I would suggest is, make it “will -to- power” to better catch the echo of the Fascist thing (which, again, is the essence and meaning of the Democrats’ economic program).
And the downside of wasting time in Congress is…. what exactly? Keeping congress from doing violence seems to be an end in itself.
Government Gridlock: It’s a Feature, not a Bug.
My, my, miss, we are angry, aren’t we? Tano too.
Tell you what, Tano, if the GOP is behaving so badly right now, why not have Democrats target those Republican Senators running for reelection and hold them to account at the ballot box?
this is another fine example of how the GOP has NO earthly idea on how to behave. Hey, why not toss another brick into a democratic rep’s windows? How pathetic of the GOP and the people will remember their obstructionism when they vote overwhelmingly, AGAIN, just like in 2006 and 2008, for the democrats.
What once looked like a competitive 2010 midterm election will again be a landslide for the good guys.
Have a LONG, LONG decade repugnants. You earned and deserved all these losses.
Yeah, buckeyenutlover, all those incumbent Senate Republicans trailing in their reelection bids, you know Reid of Nevada, Lincoln of Arkansas, Bennett of Colorado, with Boxer of California and Feingold of Wisconsin in dead heats in “blue” states.
Oh wait, I’m sorry, what was I thinking, those are Democratic Senators. Guess, they all must have been part of the GOP cabala to send this back to the House.
Crosseyedbucketbreath, you certainly do waste your time.
1.) You hate us.
2.) You are happy for our misery.
3.) You are thrilled that we are losers forever.
4.) You love to gloat.
5.) You enjoy a daily fix of rubbing it in.
6.) You are addicted to disparaging us.
7.) And your real purpose in life is …………… ?
Is this how someone who hopes to be a night clerk at a 7-11 spends his spare time?
The same poll says that 42% approve of the bill and 46% are against it. Not bad considering that as many as half of those against believe that the bill mandates the formation of death panels.
Now that it’s passed, the GOP’s making a show of fighting it to further galvanize the base. They have no intention of actually repealing it, any more than, for instance, they have of outlawing abortion, which they could have done handily during the 108th and 109th Congresses, when they controlled the White House, both houses of Congress, and had a conservative majority on the Supreme Court.
PS GayPatriot, the live preview of comment feature is slick!
I don’t see why the lefties have such a problem with conservative resistance. After all, didn’t Hillary Clinton (quoting Howard Zinn) say that dissent it the highest form of patriotism?
John Deere reports that HCR will cost them $150 million this year. Caterpillar reports $100 million. Verizon expects big cost increases.
I wonder how many jobs this will cost. China must be thrilled.
Is that any more retarded than whining, pissing and moaning about having to do SOMETHING about the billions of children denied insurance due to a pre-existing condition…..and then f*ing leaving that part out of the legislation????
DURP!!!
But they’ll be too stupid to remember the promises of “draining the swamp”, all the corruption, blackmail, tax cheats, lack of transparency, being taxed and spent into oblivion, the fact that they don’t have jobs or homes etc. etc. etc. eh, Ohiocumcatcher?
Um, the new House vote was 220-207. Looks like the horse has left the barn guys. Valiant effort, yes. Hopefully we’ll be able to make lemonade from these lemons.