In his comment to my firsts post on Obama’s memorandum on hospital visitation, David wrote, “I knew you’d be against whatever Obama does so I wasn’t surprised.” Wonder how he knew that? Must not have been from checking our archives where I praised Obama here, here, here, here, here, here and here for the way he was going about repealing Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell (DADT).
(And those aren’t the only posts where I praised the president on DADT.)
David is not the only one of our critics to make assumptions which, with just a few keystrokes, he could have learned were false. In my post challenging our critics using the “self-hating” slur to defend themselves, Jennifer, one of the few such critics who kept her comments civil, wrote:
You are tolerated in the ranks only because you agree that you deserve the second-class legal status assigned to you by the conservative movement, and you know that if you stepped out of line on that one, you’d no longer be tolerated.
(And that wasn’t her only misrepresentation.) She could provide no evidence that conservatives would no longer welcome us if we “stepped out of line.” Well, we still get linked on conservative blogs and invited to conservative confabs even though this blog has opposed Proposition 8 and in spite of my writings in favor of civil unions and against Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell (DADT).
They have, as we’ve said before, this view of the Republican Party and conservative movement not based on their actual experiences at party meetings on in conservative gatherings, but based on what they read in the mainstream media and on left-wing blogs.
But the most delicious of all false assumptions came from a fellow styling himself Mr. Wonderful:
Bear in mind that Dan doesn’t think he’s self-loathing because he’s not aware of FEELING that way. Like all the fine folks on the right, he probably “doesn’t believe in” analysis, psycho-therapy, or any other kind of therapy.
This happily named narrow-minded man must certainly have missed all my posts referencing Carl Jung or was blind to the fact that I am completing a Ph. D. at a graduate school that, according to its website, offers “masters and doctoral degree programs framed in the traditions of depth psychology.” Indeed, the very diploma for my M.A. reads that my degree is in “Mythological Studies with Emphasis in Depth Psychology.” (Emphasis added.) Not just that, in the concluding chapters of my dissertation, I intend to offer a psychological interpretation of the goddess Athene’s role in guiding men in Greek myth.
Oh, and, I am well aware of the ability of psychoanalysis to treat depression.
These critics have made assumptions about us based not on what we have said, but on the type of people they assume us to be. I believe that’s what we call, “prejudice.” Here, let me look it up:
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.
Yep, that kind of sums those critics’ attitudes toward us.
Dan – I, too, found Mr. Wonderful’s comments almost psychotically detached from reality, delicious in their ignorance. A fun moment!
It must have been a gratifying day for you, I guess. But at the end of it, how’d you do on the Quiz?
ILC, “delicious in their ignorance” indeed!
One thing I’m finally realizing about “progressives” is that they’re actually quite boring. It’s almost impossible to have a substantive conversation with one. Their eyes glaze over and they start to repeat canned talking points from MSNBC, or Air America (or whatever they’re calling it this week).
Of course they’re all just brimming over with confidence that conservatives and libertarians don’t believe in psychology, or evolution, or science of any sort. That they do not recognize their own attitude is the result of bigotry should probably not be at all surprising.
On another blog, I recently shared the story of my own longtime unemployment, and of my belief that government meddling in healthcare will only make this problem worse. One compassionate and elightened “progressive” informed me that I “oozed victimization.”
I never used to understand why people like Tammy Bruce, who used to be leftists, had such a deep disgust — almost a revulsion — toward “progressives.” Now that I’ve begun to be on the receiving end of the same sort of treatment other converts to the Right have gotten, I understand completely.
There is no bottom for these people. No depth to which many of them will not stoop.
You were pretty much a clencher, weren’t you? It’s okay, baby, it’s okay.
#4 – Lori, that’s a rich comment. There are several things in it I could take off on. Lefties’ devotion to the religion of Global Warming, which is anti-science on their part (i.e. anti-real science; pro-junk science). My own past as a lefty and, like Tammy Bruce, the revulsion I have come to feel for leftism, the more I see through it. And more.
@ILoveCapitalism: “My own past present as a lefty”
Fixed.
Also to Daniel, I think the man doth protest too much.
What is the bloody point of this live preview if it allows usage of tags that are stripped from the final post? Come to think of it, why the hell would you strip strikethrough tags? The coding on this blog is just messed up.
Serentiy: You’re not too bright, so frankly I don’t care what you have to say. Go rant at yourself in the mirror; it’s what you often do (without realizing it).
[cut and pasted from the other thread, complete with spelling error; you’re worth little more]
I think that I will let the men at Hillbuzz answer some of your statements and support your experience Daniel.
Over and over again I see Hillbuzz write how they are accepted in Republican circles, even though they are gay and Democrats. In fact I just read another post of theirs regarding their meeting with Sarah Palin in Washington Illinois. They stated that many of the women in particular, whilst guessing that they were gay, went out of their way to be pleasant to them and that the men just treated them as “one of the boys”. They actually said it was the women who were playing at guessing that they were gay, and it was the women that showed a high level of acceptance of the fact that they were gay.
On the other hand, they receive the same kind of hate mail that you receive from such specimens of hatred as William and Serenity. They get email with the usual type of death wish: “I hope you die from AIDS” which comes from leftists that are sent by the Democratic Underground and DailyKos.
So, there you have it, Democrat gays who prefer Hillary and Sarah get the same kind of hate mail as do Republicans. Both of your types get acceptance from Republicans and non-acceptance by the rest.
Once you give up on the idea that you can reason with lefties — who are by and large emotion-driven — life is a lot easier.
I am a middle aged, mother of two who frequents this site fairly often because I find the writing and comments informed and insightful. It irritates the snot out of me that libs constantly accuse us “average” Americans of the worst sort of hate and intolerance. I don’t care about the personal life of others, except to wish them well…We agree that this country and our personal freedom is worth defending. I can almost hear them praying under their breath to please, please! God, let us drive a wedge between gays, straights, blacks, whites, Hispanics…You name it! They have made an art form out of divide and conquer.
Jealous! (Me, I mean.)
Women have a foolproof method. They notice the gay man making not the tiniest effort to look at their breasts.
Re-reading the main post the next day… Ahhhh, still feels good!
The group of critics that Dan is talking about showed themselves to be unintelligent and/or ignorant at best; perhaps worse (e.g., dishonest in some cases). Seeing them called out for their prejudice… it’s nice.
“Women have a foolproof method. They notice the gay man making not the tiniest effort to look at their breasts.”
funny, I’ve spooked women by maintaining eye contact, because they were expecting me to look at their chest.
TL… we will bring you to the Dark Side yet!
Sorry, as I’ve said before: “Happily Hetero, Definately Dominate. May as well have ‘One Way only’ tattooed above my butt.” 😉