I just like to keep my head above the vulgarity, and appriciate it when we lead by example. If the trolls can’t argue points without lies and vulgarity, they’re not worth talking with. (lecturing to? Yes. Mocking? Oh gods yes. Swearing at? Waste of perfectly good anger.)

And no, I don’t always resist the temptation. “Christians aren’t perfect, we’re just Forgiven.”

TGC, ND30, don’t sink to this troll’s level, with the insults, please.

I beg pardon. I didn’t come on here and unload an irrelevant, steaming pile of horse shit. I’m still a damn site “classier” than that chump. It’s a helluva lot further to go to sink to his level.

but slavery can be whitewashed out, even though it was the primary reason for the civil war.

And there’s the REAL whitewash of the ignorant wretch. But he is only spewing the BS he was taught, so you kinda have to feel sorry for him in a way.

And please tell me why you refuse to even understand my argument. And please tell me why the argument is so superficial.

I believe the best way to improve the lot of gay people is to reduce government interference in our lives. Republicans do a better job of doing that than do Democrats–though they could do much better.

And why can’t you even acknowledge that this bill, pushed by a Republican legislator signed by a Republican executive benefits gay people?

And, if the post is indeed so pointless, why do you comment once and return to comment again? But, on a day when I’m busy working on my dissertation, your insistence on responding to my posts with your prejudices provides yet another amusing insight into the narrow-minded world of the left.

Please try to understand our arguments. We don’t need pro-gay politicians. But, then again, if you did respond to our arguments, your responses would not nearly be so amusing. Or betray such evidence of this liberal inability to understand conservative ideas.

First, explain how the Democrats as a whole are truly more pro-gay and not just shedding crocodile tears to win the bucks of gay donors.

Second, Democrats are only tolerant of gay people who toe the party line and don’t rock the boat. Just look at Howard Dean firing a gay DNC staffer who complained of discrimination, the attempts to get gay congressional staffers who worked for Republicans sacked, and the reaction of nearly any gay liberal when the words “Mary” and “Cheney” are mentioned.

Third, Democrats know that gays will still vote for them no matter what actions they take, and they wave right-wing boogeymen in front of them to get their money and votes.

Dan, I read it and like always you bolster republicans for the sake that they are not democrats. Yes I understand the superficial argument in your post that the law will benifit gay couples, but I point out why you bring it up in the first place, to defend your buddy McDonnell that’s all. A lot of things are good for gays, like traffic lights keep gays safe. LOL. But who ever boasts the legislator that came up with the idea? and saying that is beneficial. DUH.

I know what you want to do. You want to convince the world that the anti-gay GOP is becoming more “tolerant” of gay people (a laughable thought). And this is WHY you even bothered to write this pointless post.

whenever he’s confronted with facts that counter his argument, he claims that the criticism is unrelated to his post

Sort of like your whining and screaming when confronted with the facts of what you and your Obama Party support and endorse — and how you attack Republicans for doing that which you support and endorse when Obama Party members do it.

Funny how you dodge and spin about that, isn’t it? Why can’t you confront the facts of what you and your Obama Party support and endorse, Chad? Is it because you’re a hypocrite who will do whatever Obama Party members tell him?

Why not? After all, you support and endorse the Obama Party as “gay-friendly” even as it does all the things you accuse Republicans of doing.

Or is it because to gay-sex liberals like you and your friend Chad, party affiliation and minority status, not actions, fact, or character, are the determination of what is and what isn’t “gay-friendly”?

And one can apologize for statements being unclear, as well as incorrect.

And yes, his actions are those that promote freedom. Heck, for my part in the Civil War, I still idealize Sherman and Sheridan, two men who are reviled in parts of the country and raized chunks of the south. Were they saints? No. Did they do what they thought was right? Yes.

Same thing for the proclimation. it emphasized what was good, while not mentioning or celebrating, the bad. When people complained that he wasn’t stating the obivious (condemning the bad) he ammended his statement, pointing out that slavery wasn’t what the proclimation was about. “I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia.”

To many Virginians the civil war wasn’t about slavery as much as it was about states rights. And for tourism, the battlefields, historical sites and other parts of Virgina are more significant than talking up the history of slavery.

And thank you for the link. It does help to cite your sources, as my teachers always said.

also, if you’re going to accuse me of paraphrasing or paraphrasing, you should hold yourself to the same standard. you link to mcdonnell’s apology; how gracious. obviously he apologized because he did something wrong. lauding the confederacy, which attempted to secede from the union in order to preserve the institution of slavery, is hardly “freedom-friendly.”

mcdonnell dug himself deeper. when the controversy erupted, he explained his omission of slavery from the proclamation like this: “there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia.”

link, you say? here’s your link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/06/AR2010040604416.html

so the confederacy is worth lauding, for tourism purposes, but slavery can be whitewashed out, even though it was the primary reason for the civil war. again, i ask, this is your archetypical “freedom-friendly” republican?

That’s my problem with your comments, Chad. You don’t address the post, nor do you elaborate on your concerns. However you do read the minds and hearts of others, as well as paraphrasing things that aren’t correct.

maybe livewire can help, since he likes to keep a running catalog of other people’s comments on here. and livewire, nd30 and tgc threw decorum out the window a long time ago. and you find them sympathetic. when you lie with dogs…

and as for links…the facts i offered are well known and even dan agreed with them. when i disagreed with the characterization of mcdonnell as “freedom friendly” i was offering my opinion. that doesn’t make the underlying facts spurious.

Oh wait, you didn’t. You decided to try to make spurious accusations w/o anything to back it up.

May I speculate? You’re upset that this legislation benefits everyone and not just your group. You’re further upset that it is the Republicans doing what Democrats won’t.

TGC, ND30, don’t sink to this troll’s level, with the insults, please.

you have ZERO proof that i am liar or a hypocrite.

Who did you vote for? Thank you.

and tgc, thanks for keeping it classy, fcukwad.

And your mother who queeved you forth.

i wouldn’t describe someone who attempted to whitewash slavery (i.e., the opposite of freedom) out of virginia’s history with such a superlative.

What was that about not being a liar? You can repeat that repeatedly enough, but it will never change the fact that you’re a lying sonofabitch.

On the issue, yes the state should allow people to pick and choose their own health care insurance blah blah. But come on, this is one new low for gay patriot, making the assumption that VA enacted this new law for gay couples, in fact lets be fair the to the readers here, they enacted this law in spite of gay couples. Okay?

and tgc, thanks for keeping it classy, fcukwad. apparently, you share dan’s views that mcdonnell is an archetypical “freedom-friendly” republican. i wouldn’t describe someone who attempted to whitewash slavery (i.e., the opposite of freedom) out of virginia’s history with such a superlative.

While Il Douche bricks all over gays, you’re gonna whine, piss and moan about the governor of Virginia?

Well yeah, TGC; after all, if Chad ever criticized the Obama Party, he would be a self-loathing homophobe, and if he ever criticized Obama, he would be a racist self-loathing homophobe.

Because we all know that all criticism of Obama is racist and that any gay and lesbian who doesn’t obey the Obama Party and hate all Republicans and conservatives is a “Jewish Nazi”, “Uncle Tom”, “self-loathing”, etc.