I saw this last night live-and-in-person at the NRA 2010 Convention in Charlotte. Newt had the house rocking the whole time, but this clip was the most memorable. Outstanding.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
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Gene in Pennsylvaniasays
I knew Obama was anti military. I didn’t know Kagan was anti military.
Thanks to Mr Gingrich for pointing this out. Info I’m sure the old media would never have given us.
Too late for Newt, he’s lost the entire Conservative community who have tired of the flip-flipping RINO attitude.
Tonysays
Newt can say some good things, but I also feel he has lost the Conservative wing. Bottom line is I hope we can find a better candidate than Newt.
ThatGayConservativesays
What’s amusing is watching the Il Douche tools masturbating furiously to the notion that Kagan is above it all BECAUSE she’s not a judge. Nevermind the fact that she couldn’t even sway the liberal justices to agree with her arguments.
Elize Naydensays
I dont get the animosity towards Newt. A politician who actually delivered on reining in spending, cutting taxes at the same time and preserving a big defense budget. Sounds like conservative policy trinity to me and people let some stupid endorsement decisions get in the way of that and favour Mr. Massachusettscare in the end? I really dont get it.
I’m glad to see Black Sabbath and Tony’s comments about Newt and that I’m not alone in wondering why he is afforded a degree of political relevance that makes zero sense. Don’t get me wrong–back in the 90s he was the best that the GOP had to offer, exhibiting great courage promoting conservative ideas and tremendous leadership with his “Contract for America.” But he had his time as a politician at the top of the political heap and to me, he’s just another conservative pundit (and a good one). But it seems like every time he surfaces every 3-6 months to give his opinion on whatever political controversy is hot at the moment, conservatives display a heightened reverence for his view above all others–a reverence that for a moment seems justified until precisely the moment he makes a political fumble so idiotic that it leaves me wondering why we even know who he is in 2010 (much less a potential Presidential candidate for 2012!)
Am I the only one that thinks this? His inexplicable and unwavering support of Scozzafazza is a perfect example. It left me wondering why he is treated like some wise, learned sage of the GOP every time he pops up to give us his opinion.
About a month ago, Newt REALLY convinced me once and for all that he doesn’t deserve the high profile and influence he seems to have among conservatives generally. I’m referring to an unbelievable statement he made when he finally surfaced after several months of silence in the wake of the Scozzafazza debacle.
Right after the passage of Obamacare, when the Left’s Allinsky-ite disinformation machine was still running at full bore to smear the Tea Party protesters as evil, violent, hate-mongering racists that were but a hair’s breadth from snapping and going on bloody, homicidal rampages (all evidence to the contrary, of course), Newt graciously decided to give us his opinion, stating that the Tea Party movement is a “natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats,” which is “more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party” than as an independent or third party.
Are you fu*king kidding me?! The Tea Party movement is going to evolve into the MILITANT WING of the Republican Party? What the hell was he thinking? And what the hell are conservatives thinking for giving him anything more than a polite “thanks, Newt, nice to see you” when he pops up to volunteer his views (and idiotically help fuel the baseless smears of the Left)?
Someone needs to explain to me why this guy is anything more than a face in the crowd when it comes to Republican strategy. I honestly don’t get it.
Newt definitely has a Scozzafava problem. On the other hand, there is probably no other smarter conservative political scholar who can also attract voters than Gingrich.
I’d love to see him debate Obama on the points of American character and Founding Principles.
Timsays
I think it’s odd this blog consistently working to try and end DADT, but is now decrying Kagan for actually taking actions or creating consequences for a military that actively discriminates against us?
Just because I won’t join the military because I don’t want to take a bullet for a country that treats me as second class doesn’t mean I don’t support troops or the military in general…
In wartime, some things are more important than identity politics. I personally have said that such thing uber-many times since 9/11/2001.
Elize Naydensays
Yeah right, because what are political life time achievements like a balanced budget, tax cuts, the first Republican majority in more than a half century and a lot of kept promises in the Contract against missteps in the political arena like a stupid endorsment or a verbal error in TV commentary. Gosh and I thought Obama had a weired attitude regarding the importance of words and speeches.
A balanced budget changes the lifes of millions of Americans and generations to come, the wrong endorsement of a whacky candidate who wasnt even elected changes what? Endorsements are rituals for Washington insiders no American outside cares about.
As long as Conservatives dismiss politicians who delivered Conservative policy in favour of those who make merely Conservative speeches and appear more in lockstep with the allready converted they dont understand how bleak our situation is. This is really not the time for sectarian bickering.
#9: “I think it’s odd this blog consistently working to try and end DADT, but is now decrying Kagan for actually taking actions or creating consequences for a military that actively discriminates against us?”
Kagan “taking action” and/or “creating consequences” for the military had no effect on the military’s policy toward gays and and SHOULD have no effect on the military’s policy. It’s silly to even entertain the possibility that the policy would change just so recruiters could get back on Kagan’s campus or that her actions were engineered to compel such a result. The issue is a matter of military policy to be examined and decided by military experts with appropriate authority. The military does not exist to ensure that gays can express themselves and tell anyone that will listen that they prefer su*king cock to licking pus*y. Nor does it exist to make Kagan happy by ensuring that all soldiers have this freedom.
Kagan doesn’t like the military or its policies. As a liberal, they personally offend her. So, she took the action that she did to make sure that recruiters would not have access on her campus to students with an interest (or potential interest) in a military career. The truth is, in her personal judgment, no young person should consider a career in the military regardless of DADT.
“Just because I won’t join the military because I don’t want to take a bullet for a country that treats me as second class…”
What a silly comment. No individual that had the courage and fortitude to voluntarily join the armed forces and defend this country with his or her life to begin with would EVER whine about the military treating gay soldiers as second class citizens. Gays that want to serve this country in the military don’t join because they’re looking for personal validation and affirmation from the military for their personal choices in life. They join because they love this country and are willing to serve to protect it. Gays fully aware of the DADT policy join up and then re-enlist regardless of the policy. Thus, it would seem that their willingness to “take a bullet” for this country is based on something other than just being able to be a screaming out homo for every moment they are in uniform. I suspect their commitment runs deeper than what you can understand. But don’t worry. No one here will ever think that you WOULD have joined the service BUT FOR their discriminatory and mean policies that make you feel sad, insecure, and unappreciated.
“…doesn’t mean I don’t support troops or the military in general…”
No, it just means that you PROBABLY don’t support troops or the military in general.
I think it’s odd this blog consistently working to try and end DADT, but is now decrying Kagan for actually taking actions or creating consequences for a military that actively discriminates against us?
In other words, you support Kagan deliberately trying to harm the military.
Why on earth should the military want in it people like yourself who will advocate hurting the military if you don’t get exactly what you want?
THAT is the reason for DADT — because gay and lesbian liberals continue to demonstrate time and again that their sexual orientation and their insane devotion to putting it ahead of every other consideration makes them patently unfit for the military.
As Sean pointed out above, complying with DADT demonstrates that you CAN put the military and its needs ahead of your sexual orientation.
ILoveCapitalismsays
I won’t join the military because I don’t want to take a bullet for a country that treats me [ed: allegedly] as second class
A pity, Tim, that the military defends you anyway.
Timsays
Bruce,
The policy could easily be implemented in war time or not. “In a time of war” is not an excuse that justifies discrimination by an entire branch of US government.
Kagan not allowing recruiters on Harvard is not “deliberately trying to harm” the military. She’s merely asking that the military adhere to the same standards of basic respect and human decency that should be afforded to everyone, regardless of sexual orientation.
I’m well aware of SOME of the reasons people join the military, but I find it interesting you can make such blankets statements like, “They join because they love this country and are willing to serve to protect it.” doesn’t acknowledge that people can actively disagree with the government and want to try and change it. Many soldiers don’t agree with the Iraq war, and some even consciously refuse to go because they consider it unjust.
For you to assume tacit agreement with all the military’s policies simply by the fact that we have a volunteer force is wrong. Many people join for reasons like freedom, patriotism, sense of duty, but also things like the financial advantages, the travel, the work experience and training. For you to say somehow you know all the motives and that all soldiers agree 100 % is an amazing generalization.
You can disagree with Kagan all you want, but at least give her some respect for acting on what she believes in. It takes a lot more balls to do that at Larry Summers’ institution than to write some whiny blog entry about how Kagan hates the troops.
I knew Obama was anti military. I didn’t know Kagan was anti military.
Thanks to Mr Gingrich for pointing this out. Info I’m sure the old media would never have given us.
VDH posted a spot-on take on the whole Obama issue yesterday in which he also pointed out the complete contradiction of the Kagan nomination.
Too late for Newt, he’s lost the entire Conservative community who have tired of the flip-flipping RINO attitude.
Newt can say some good things, but I also feel he has lost the Conservative wing. Bottom line is I hope we can find a better candidate than Newt.
What’s amusing is watching the Il Douche tools masturbating furiously to the notion that Kagan is above it all BECAUSE she’s not a judge. Nevermind the fact that she couldn’t even sway the liberal justices to agree with her arguments.
I dont get the animosity towards Newt. A politician who actually delivered on reining in spending, cutting taxes at the same time and preserving a big defense budget. Sounds like conservative policy trinity to me and people let some stupid endorsement decisions get in the way of that and favour Mr. Massachusettscare in the end? I really dont get it.
I’m glad to see Black Sabbath and Tony’s comments about Newt and that I’m not alone in wondering why he is afforded a degree of political relevance that makes zero sense. Don’t get me wrong–back in the 90s he was the best that the GOP had to offer, exhibiting great courage promoting conservative ideas and tremendous leadership with his “Contract for America.” But he had his time as a politician at the top of the political heap and to me, he’s just another conservative pundit (and a good one). But it seems like every time he surfaces every 3-6 months to give his opinion on whatever political controversy is hot at the moment, conservatives display a heightened reverence for his view above all others–a reverence that for a moment seems justified until precisely the moment he makes a political fumble so idiotic that it leaves me wondering why we even know who he is in 2010 (much less a potential Presidential candidate for 2012!)
Am I the only one that thinks this? His inexplicable and unwavering support of Scozzafazza is a perfect example. It left me wondering why he is treated like some wise, learned sage of the GOP every time he pops up to give us his opinion.
About a month ago, Newt REALLY convinced me once and for all that he doesn’t deserve the high profile and influence he seems to have among conservatives generally. I’m referring to an unbelievable statement he made when he finally surfaced after several months of silence in the wake of the Scozzafazza debacle.
Right after the passage of Obamacare, when the Left’s Allinsky-ite disinformation machine was still running at full bore to smear the Tea Party protesters as evil, violent, hate-mongering racists that were but a hair’s breadth from snapping and going on bloody, homicidal rampages (all evidence to the contrary, of course), Newt graciously decided to give us his opinion, stating that the Tea Party movement is a “natural expression of frustration with Republicans and anger at Democrats,” which is “more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party” than as an independent or third party.
Are you fu*king kidding me?! The Tea Party movement is going to evolve into the MILITANT WING of the Republican Party? What the hell was he thinking? And what the hell are conservatives thinking for giving him anything more than a polite “thanks, Newt, nice to see you” when he pops up to volunteer his views (and idiotically help fuel the baseless smears of the Left)?
Someone needs to explain to me why this guy is anything more than a face in the crowd when it comes to Republican strategy. I honestly don’t get it.
Newt definitely has a Scozzafava problem. On the other hand, there is probably no other smarter conservative political scholar who can also attract voters than Gingrich.
I’d love to see him debate Obama on the points of American character and Founding Principles.
I think it’s odd this blog consistently working to try and end DADT, but is now decrying Kagan for actually taking actions or creating consequences for a military that actively discriminates against us?
Just because I won’t join the military because I don’t want to take a bullet for a country that treats me as second class doesn’t mean I don’t support troops or the military in general…
Tim-
In wartime, some things are more important than identity politics. I personally have said that such thing uber-many times since 9/11/2001.
Yeah right, because what are political life time achievements like a balanced budget, tax cuts, the first Republican majority in more than a half century and a lot of kept promises in the Contract against missteps in the political arena like a stupid endorsment or a verbal error in TV commentary. Gosh and I thought Obama had a weired attitude regarding the importance of words and speeches.
A balanced budget changes the lifes of millions of Americans and generations to come, the wrong endorsement of a whacky candidate who wasnt even elected changes what? Endorsements are rituals for Washington insiders no American outside cares about.
As long as Conservatives dismiss politicians who delivered Conservative policy in favour of those who make merely Conservative speeches and appear more in lockstep with the allready converted they dont understand how bleak our situation is. This is really not the time for sectarian bickering.
#9: “I think it’s odd this blog consistently working to try and end DADT, but is now decrying Kagan for actually taking actions or creating consequences for a military that actively discriminates against us?”
Kagan “taking action” and/or “creating consequences” for the military had no effect on the military’s policy toward gays and and SHOULD have no effect on the military’s policy. It’s silly to even entertain the possibility that the policy would change just so recruiters could get back on Kagan’s campus or that her actions were engineered to compel such a result. The issue is a matter of military policy to be examined and decided by military experts with appropriate authority. The military does not exist to ensure that gays can express themselves and tell anyone that will listen that they prefer su*king cock to licking pus*y. Nor does it exist to make Kagan happy by ensuring that all soldiers have this freedom.
Kagan doesn’t like the military or its policies. As a liberal, they personally offend her. So, she took the action that she did to make sure that recruiters would not have access on her campus to students with an interest (or potential interest) in a military career. The truth is, in her personal judgment, no young person should consider a career in the military regardless of DADT.
“Just because I won’t join the military because I don’t want to take a bullet for a country that treats me as second class…”
What a silly comment. No individual that had the courage and fortitude to voluntarily join the armed forces and defend this country with his or her life to begin with would EVER whine about the military treating gay soldiers as second class citizens. Gays that want to serve this country in the military don’t join because they’re looking for personal validation and affirmation from the military for their personal choices in life. They join because they love this country and are willing to serve to protect it. Gays fully aware of the DADT policy join up and then re-enlist regardless of the policy. Thus, it would seem that their willingness to “take a bullet” for this country is based on something other than just being able to be a screaming out homo for every moment they are in uniform. I suspect their commitment runs deeper than what you can understand. But don’t worry. No one here will ever think that you WOULD have joined the service BUT FOR their discriminatory and mean policies that make you feel sad, insecure, and unappreciated.
“…doesn’t mean I don’t support troops or the military in general…”
No, it just means that you PROBABLY don’t support troops or the military in general.
In other words, you support Kagan deliberately trying to harm the military.
Why on earth should the military want in it people like yourself who will advocate hurting the military if you don’t get exactly what you want?
THAT is the reason for DADT — because gay and lesbian liberals continue to demonstrate time and again that their sexual orientation and their insane devotion to putting it ahead of every other consideration makes them patently unfit for the military.
As Sean pointed out above, complying with DADT demonstrates that you CAN put the military and its needs ahead of your sexual orientation.
A pity, Tim, that the military defends you anyway.
Bruce,
The policy could easily be implemented in war time or not. “In a time of war” is not an excuse that justifies discrimination by an entire branch of US government.
Kagan not allowing recruiters on Harvard is not “deliberately trying to harm” the military. She’s merely asking that the military adhere to the same standards of basic respect and human decency that should be afforded to everyone, regardless of sexual orientation.
I’m well aware of SOME of the reasons people join the military, but I find it interesting you can make such blankets statements like, “They join because they love this country and are willing to serve to protect it.” doesn’t acknowledge that people can actively disagree with the government and want to try and change it. Many soldiers don’t agree with the Iraq war, and some even consciously refuse to go because they consider it unjust.
For you to assume tacit agreement with all the military’s policies simply by the fact that we have a volunteer force is wrong. Many people join for reasons like freedom, patriotism, sense of duty, but also things like the financial advantages, the travel, the work experience and training. For you to say somehow you know all the motives and that all soldiers agree 100 % is an amazing generalization.
You can disagree with Kagan all you want, but at least give her some respect for acting on what she believes in. It takes a lot more balls to do that at Larry Summers’ institution than to write some whiny blog entry about how Kagan hates the troops.