Anyone who has ever attended a large protest rally is bound to encounter his fair share of kooks, loons and assorted fringe elements. At the Santa Monica Tea Party I attended in April 2009, I talked with a 9/11 Truther, who seemed to have showed up not so much because he agreed with the small-government rhetoric of the assembled protesters, but because it was, well, a gathering of protesters. And he wanted the chance to wave his sign.
Over a Politico, in a piece lamenting that despite promise that the of Barack Obama would “transform the charged, stilted ‘national conversation’ about race into a smarter and more authentic dialogue,” Ben Smith finds that instead “the conversation just got dumber.” He observes further that “while MSNBC scours the tea party movement for racist elements, which one could probably find in any mass organization in America.”
Except MSNBC won’t tell you that.
They’ve been rooting around for racism not as a means to expose bigots, but as as a part of their campaign to discredit conservatives. Their goal (as well as that of others peddling the racist narrative) isn’t honest reporting, but, to borrow a famous phrase, the politics of personal destruction. Maybe they’re trying to convince themselves that conservatives really are the horrible, no good and very bad people they imagine them to be.
They want to match the reality of the world to the images inside their head. And to do so, they have to pretend that it’s only at rallies protesting Democratic politicians and liberal policies than you find nutbags and kookooheads. They have, as one scholar put it, “overplayed” the race card. And in so doing, Democratic politicians and left-of-center pundits and reporters have, if anything, exacerbated racial tensions in this country — undermining, more than anything perhaps, the greatest promise of Barack Obama’s election in 2008.
UPDATE: Glenn Reynolds links an article on race and quips: “REUTERS: Analysis: Race issues beset Obama’s “post-racial” presidency. Well, he’s played the race card nonstop, but it’s no longer trumps.”
By the way, Sharrod is doing an amazing job of demonstrating that she’s a race-baiting hustler.
“I think they should but they won’t. They intended exactly what they did. “They were looking for the result they got yesterday,” she said of Fox. “I am just a pawn. I was just here. They are after a bigger thing, they would love to take us back to where we were many years ago. Back to where black people were looking down, not looking white folks in the face, not being able to compete for a job out there and not be a whole person.”
And like I said, this obvious racist woman, this unrepentant idiot who is contradicting her so-calle “redemptive” story with her blabbering today, is going to be holding a job at the USDA.
Gift from heaven. The Obama Party needs to be hammered every day with how it gives jobs to unrepentant racists because they attack as racist conservatives and organizations who criticize Obama.
Sherrod is a racist. More than that, she’s an unrepentant liar of a racist.
I was just reading some interesting comments about Sherrod concerning the Pigford cases. The woman and her husband were awarded something like $13 million. The Pigford cases is another name for reparations to people who should not be getting one cent of your taxpayer money.
That’s not quite correct, SA — the $13 million was awarded to “New Communities, Inc.”, an organization for black farmers that the Sherrods had founded. However, Shirley and her husband were personally awarded an additional $300,000 for “pain and suffering,” the poor things.
While Googling for more info on Sherrod, I found this intriguing question posed on American Thinker:
The blogger goes on to elaborate how such fraudulent claims might’ve worked:
Hmmm…
Morgan Freeman was right. Folks need to stop fixating on race.
Oh no, why black lady rip off Mongo’s best line?!
Mongo very sad now, want candy.
Oh no, why black lady rip off Mongo’s best line?!
Mongo very sad now, want candy.
*reads through Levi’s ‘Obama is a moderate centrist, trying to capture the right’ drivel.*
I guess we have to understand Levi’s viewpoint, when Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid aren’t ‘liberal’ to him, I guess anyone short of Che or Bill Ayers is ‘center right’.
Whoops wrong thread
This is just absurd. At this moment, the conservative movement is in an even more embarrassing position than they normally are, because many of them, including their much-beloved Fox News, have at worst revealed themselves to be unabashed racists, or at the very least a bunch of amoral twits that have no problem exploiting racial divisiveness for political gain (which is worse?) And of course, when the humiliations become too much to deny, the conservative movement circles the wagons, does their very best to be introspective, and….. wait for it…… ACCUSES THE PRESIDENT OF PLAYING THE RACE CARD!
It’s not like you guys just failed this test – you did that back during the nomination process when all these same characters whipped you into a frenzy about Jeremiah Wright. There really is nothing different about these situations; the conservative media has a vested interest in generating anger and political activism among white voters, and so any opportunity to suggest that the black nominee/President is a racist has to be taken. If that means pretending like “God Damn America” is a racial epithet, or if it means using Nazi-style propaganda techniques like misleadingly editing video, so be it. The Republican party’s most reliable constituency is white people, and if their propaganda arm can make white people feel like they’re under attack from a black man, then they can’t afford not to – they’re certainly not going to win a policy argument or make any sort of coherent case for their vision of the US government. No, no, much easier to just distract and scare people with abortionists, gay couples, Muslims, and blacks.
This is much more than some careless mistake that the conservative movement can just wash its hands off, or that Fox News can dismiss as some short-term lapse in their journalistic standards – this is day-in, day-out Republicanism in America. You’re already willing to forget everything about the Sherrod incident and get right back to work accusing Obama of playing the race card – a conservative habit intended to drown out and cover for actual cases of conservative racism which inevitably leads to things like this. You don’t want to learn your lesson because you can’t – Republicans need the racist vote too much.
Understand that when liberals accuse Republicans of racism or the exploitation of racism, that isn’t based on a few signs being held up at a few rallies. It’s based on events like this one, on events like the manufactured Rev. Wright controversy, and on decades of Republican policies that ignore minorities and in many cases actively suppress them. You guys get 1 out of 10 black people to vote for you, and you can dream up some conspiracy theory about how liberals have brainwashed blacks into embracing victimhood if you want to, but the real reason that black people don’t vote Republican is because of things like this. And even when extremely prominent and influential elements on your side are proven to be manufacturing controversies to exploit racism, you’re coming back the very next day to blame Democrats for all racial diviseness in America. What a joke.
Projecting again, Levi?
A woman stands up in front of a room and brags about how she deliberately discriminated against a man based on his skin color, and you can’t call that racist.
This incident has laid completely bare how pathetic you and yours are. Do you know why you get the black vote, Levi? Because you treat black people like helpless children who should be dependent on handouts. You have infantilized the black community to the point where it can support overwhelmingly-racist attitudes like what this woman espoused and be rewarded for doing so.
And your defense of Jeremiah Wright — classic. Absolutely classic. Racist bigots like yourself are doing a fine job of demonstrating why you’re not fit to run this country, which is why your racist bigot Obama Party and your racist bigot Obama are dropping like stones.
You cannot say that it is wrong for a black person to discriminate against a white person based on their skin color. You are a racist.
The other interesting part is how Levi and his fellow leftist hate “progressives” demonize and attack black people who do not follow the Obama plantation mentality. Look at Condi Rice, look at Clarence Thomas, look at Thomas Sowell, and look at the other conservative black people who Obama and his “progressive” supporters like Levi deride as “Uncle Toms” and “race traitors”.
Again, it just shows Levi’s racist beliefs. Racists like Levi think they own black Americans, just as they did back in the plantation days, and like then, Levi and his progressive ilk whip and try to kill off those black folk who dare disagree with their white massas. It’s sickening to see how Levi and his “progressive” ilk emasculate the black community, telling them that they are helpless welfare dependents, encouraging their attacks on black children who succeed academically, preventing them from leaving failing schools, putting in “curriculums” that remove math and science in favor of “Barack Obama, mmm, mmmm, mmmm” rap videos, and teaching them blatantly false beliefs.
Yes Levi… Because Race is *not* what the President ment when he said that Israelies don’t trust him “because of his middle name.”
Race isn’t what he ment when he said “people on money that don’t look like me.”
Race isn’t behind dismissing the civil case against the Black Panthers.
Our President doesn’t deal in race baiting at all…
After hearing the whole speech which was more about her epiphany
in overcoming her racism and embracing class warfare. As for the sinipet which Andrew Breibart posted, I have to wonder who edited the tape? Why? Was this a leftist plot to plant the the edited tape for conservative consumption to accuse conservatives of being the ones who are obsessed with racism. Now that we know that she and her husband founded New Communties, Inc. and was awarded $13 million by the USDA for the black farmers it represented in a pigford case plus $300,000 for the Sherrods. I think this thing is a lot deeper than meets the eye.
Should the Republicans take back the House in November, this matter should be investigated, as well as ACORN, and the leftisit organizations as fronts for George Soros. It has now come to light that in Minnesota a number convicts voted (347) which allowed Al Franken to defeat Norm Coleman by 317 votes. Either ACORN or some other leftist organization had a hand in it, and this, too, should be on the Republican House investigations agenda.
It’s based on even LESS because you know damn well that it’s your fellow liberals holding up those signs. It’s your precious BLACK liberal slaves you hold on the plantation manufacturing stories on how they were spit on and called “nigger” when it didn’t happen.
Just how long do you think you can keep your maid convinced that you’re not racist just because you voted for a black guy?
Such as what? Fighting for a century and a half to keep the black man disarmed? Telling blacks they have to keep their kids in shitty State run schools? Telling blacks they can’t get to college on their own merits and to play the race card instead? Enacting Jim Crowe laws? Keeping blacks poor and dependent via the “Great Society”? Fighting to keep schools segregated? Smearing a black appointment to SCOTUS? Fillibustering the Civil Rights Act?
Why the F*ck can’t you liberals be proud of who you are? You ALWAYS have to pretend to be something you’re not. Just own up to the fact that you’re a racist SOB. Own it and wear the badge proudly. Quit projecting your hate, rage and misery on other people. Just come out of the damn closet.
I don´t know why so many waste their energy on liberals like Levi. They can´t see the forrest for the trees. Rev. Wright is a proven racist. His sermon which have been recorded and for sale by the church reek with racism. Trinity UCC´s mission statement is racist. Any student of American History knows or should know that from the endo of the Civil War blacks werethe most reliable vote for the Republican Party. It wasn´t until the welfare programs of the New Deal that enslaved blacks in the ghetto who since then rewards the Democrats with their votes and loyalty. Deomcratic Governor Orville Faubas wouldn´t permit the integration of Little Rock´s Central High School until Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent in the National Guard to protect the first black students. The pandering party is the Democrat Party. They do one thing and expect lifelong loyalty. Every two or four years they remind blacks and gays, ¨we´re for you.¨Nobody from the minority has the temerity to ask them. ¨what have you done for me lately?¨ Now they are pandering to the latino community by pushing amnesty. If they´re successful they´ll spend the next forty years reminding them of it.
Wait right there – you do know that the moral of the story is that she ultimately decided not to discriminate against him, that she decided to help the farmer after all, and now, 24 years late, the farmer has been on TV in recent days talking about how great a person she is, right?
It really doesn’t matter what you say in the rest of the post, it’s probably some rant about how much of a lazy welfare queen I am. I’ll never know, because I didn’t read it, and I’m not going to read it, until you demonstrate that you have even a glancing familiarity with the basic, indisputable facts of this story. To characterize this situation as one in which a black woman discriminated against a white man after the much-publicized recent developments is just downright pathetic. Wake up NDT, that’s not what this story is about anymore – it’s about the brazen cruelty of right wing media and the spinelessness of Democrats to resist it – not this black lady discriminating against a white guy.
Are you going to play stupid and pretend like the first ethnic President of the United States might have different dynamics with other countries and world leaders than all of the white guys that came before him? You’re being deliberately dense. It’s a change in circumstances that has consequences in the real world, he’s not allowed to recognize that? How can this possibly make anyone upset?
Oh look, another description of reality that offends you for absolutely no reason whatsoever. What is he saying that’s not true? In most cases, people that look like Obama don’t have as much money, or influence of political power for that matter, as people that don’t like him – white people. This is a fact of life born out by thousands of demographic studies, but the black President talking about constitutes race-baiting? Get over yourself.
I don’t know anything about this and I don’t care. I’m not scared of the Black Panthers and I’m not scared that there is a black President. Back when Rev. Wright was the big black boogeyman, you dorks were promising we’d be getting four years of compulsy black liberation theology crammed down our throats – has that happened?
He doesn’t in any whatsoever. You’re making things up. You’re blowing things out of proportion. You’re playing stupid. All typical for a Republican of course.
And presented with evidence of President Obama dragging race into it, Levi then accuses everyone else of bringing race into it.
I don’t know which is worse, his arrogance or his ignorance.
Those aren’t examples of “Obama dragging race into it,” whatever ‘it’ is. The parameters that conservatives have set up for what black Democrats (read: all black people) are allowed to say about race is absurdly narrow. It basically amounts to, “There is no racism in America.” Anything short of that sentiment amounts to a black person playing the race card, even innocent and undeniable observations about the distribution of money and power among the races in this country. What you consider ‘presenting evidence’ is little more than whiny hysteria you use to console yourself and justify your already-arrived-at conclusions. There’s nothing sinister about saying that blacks don’t have as much money as whites, it’s an undeniable factual statement about real life, it’s repeated thousands of times a day by all manner of people in all manner of situations, and the only reason you care about it is because you need to pretend that Obama is a racist.
This seems to be the only thing you have in your argumentative bag of tricks. You tried it on me not long ago when you accused me of knowing nothing about biology because of a figure of speech I used about brain size, which was enitrely beside the point and not the crux of my argument, by the way. You’ll read whole novels in between the lines to avoid actually conversating with someone, and it’s transparently desperate and pathetic. The only reason that Obama is a racist and that I know nothing of biology is because you’ve got terrible reading comprehension.
Oh God…these leftists give me a headache.
Ok Levi. You win. Leftists are the superior race. Everything you say is truth. Everything you do is holy. Everything you think is brilliant.
Now please, leave us nitwits to destroy ourselves.
Fair enough????
Oh..forgot to ask one thing…
Kindly go f*ck yourselves. I never asked you to make decisions for me, nor do I need you to impart upon me and my family whatever ridiculously egalitarian ideology you think can save us from ourselves.
On the contrary…you’re nothing short of a self-involved bullshit artists who seems to take great pleasure in lording you delusions of grandeur over the 47% of this country that thinks you and your Mocha Messiah are twats.
See ya in a few months.
Levi:
Democrats are certainly the experts on racism as they are the party of slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, and fighting civil rights tooth and nail.
However …… I would rather address this canard about “racism.” When your loved one is left swinging by a rope around his throttled neck from a tree and he was hung there for being black…..I will use the term racism.
When you are denied equal access because of your skin color, I will use the term racism.
When you perceive a cold shoulder or less than adequate help because of your race, I will call it bigotry. Racism is for the nasty stuff. Bigotry is for the common ignorant stuff.
When you do not achieve the same levels of success and you think it is because you are being discriminated against because of your skin color, I would call it a draw and that you have the burden of proof to overcome to get your notice.
You, Levi, will allow the charge of “racism” to apply solely on the basis of a black skinned person claiming such.
If you are a low minded black who knows the power of the race card and you play it on trivial stuff, you become known as a race pimp. That would be Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and unfortunately, even some of the MLK people who have sold out for a cheap advantage.
Your inane idea that money and power among the races in this country is a “distribution” problem takes the cake.
There is a huge, unpretentious black middle class that is sick and tired of the whole “race” game. You and your plantation thinking are a greater enemy in the eyes of that group than a full bore black hating bigot.
It gets awfully tiresome having to accept plaudits and “encouragement” for being successful while black. Your kind of bigotry is steeped in what I call the unfinished phrase. To wit: He has really done a terrific job ….. (for a black man.) You people always notice race. You can not see the person without the pigment. Fie on you.
Also, fie on the mule you rode in on.
Wow! I was just going to just comment on the short little snipet than Dan wrote:
“. . .but because it was, well, a gathering of protesters. And he wanted the chance to wave his sign.”
I liked that because I have found that to be true of almost any rally. There are always those who are there for the “thrill” of it, and they like others noticing them.
But, I have found the Tea Party movement to be very different. Most who attend these rallies are part of what some used to call the Silent Majority. Most seem to be genuinely concerned about where our country is heading.
Well, like I started out, that was all I had planned on saying. but, now that I have read so many of the comments on this post I would like to add a bit more. Just like the attention-seeking nut jobs at so many protests, blogs also seem to attract their fair share of idiots. So, I would like to add – Chill, Folks, Chill – there is no need to whack the hornets nest. When, someone makes such outragious claims, as in conservative are unabased racists, I think if you just ignore them they will eventually realize that no one is listening and, hopefully, go away to shrill their idiocy elsewhere.
I don’t know anything about this and I don’t care.
Well, of course not. Doesn’t fit the predetermined narrative, and we certainly couldn’t expect you to educate or inform yourself.
Really, that’s typical of “progressives”. They don’t know anything and they don’t care about anything other than their own self-aggrandizing lust to “drag other people kicking and screaming” into whatever cause du jour they invent as an excuse.
Sharrod is clearly obsessed with making judgments based on skin color and in fact admits to discrimination against white people. Yet Levi lauds her and her fellow racists as ideal government employees. Go figure.
So the President suggests that the Nation of Israel doesn’t trust the US suddenly because of his middle name, not because of his constant snubbing of Israel, support of Hamas, amabassadors to Syria, indifference to Iran, declaring “you might say the US is a Muslim nation.”
And yet to Levi, he’s right, the Jooooooossssss are racists.
Gods, how can you get so much stupidity in one person?
What that has to do with the present day lay of the land I couldn’t guess. Both parties have a checkered past when it comes to race in this country, what matters today is what is happening today.
Complete silliness. I don’t need to wait for cues from a black person to know when someone is being racist. I also don’t take for granted black peoples’ accusations of racism. I can make my own mind up about these things. In the specific examples of Sherrod and and Rev. Wright, there is simply no denying that conservatives are being racist, or at least exploiting racism (a distinction without a difference as far as I’m concerned.)
It certainly happens on occassion, it’s human nature to attempt to seize any advantage even if it means leaving your integrity at the door from time to time. I hardly think it’s the epidimec that conservatives make it out to be, however, and in the age of Obama, the most egregious examples of people playing the race card is the predominantly white cnoservative movement.
Well, it is a problem. In a free society, you want people of all stripes to have similar access to opportunity, and there are all kinds of demographic statistics that conclusively demonstrate that this simply isn’t the case for minorities. Of course, it isn’t the problem that it once was and not all of the disparities can be attributed exclusively to racism, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Things are getting better, though it doesn’t seem like conservatives are all that willing to help.
Yeah? Well ask this huge, unpretentious black middle class what they think about a black woman getting fired for no reason because of the concerted efforts of racist, right-wing media organizations. Do you think they would tell you that I’m a bigger problem than Fox News and Andrew Breitbart?
Pffffft…. I’ve never said anything to that effect, nor anything that should leave a rational person with that impression. You’re not really responding to my posts, you just kind of rant and rave about the kind of person you think I am and not the argument I’m presenting. This goes back to my original comment in this thread; the conservative reaction to their shared humiliation and exposure brought about by the Sherrod incident is to quickly stop talking about the specifics of this case and revert right back to your standard “The Democrats Are The Real Racists” talking points. You don’t want to stand up for your assertions about Sherrod and her coded messages to her ‘we’re in the same club’ audience, you’d like to bring Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton into things and deign to speak for middle class black folks, who according to you, are more fed up with people like me than they are fed up with the programming director at Fox News. Again, 9 out of 10 black people vote against Republicans. What is your explanation for that behavior that seems to contradict everything that you’re saying?
What can be said except that this is par for the course? I’ve long ago divorced my self of any expectation that conservatives can be shamed. You’ll just close your eyes and chant your mantras to yourself until the dream world you believe in becomes real; “No, this Sherrod thing doesn’t make me the racist, it just means that liberals are even more racist than I had anticipated!”
Let the recrod show, Levi’s spreading the lie that it was Fox News that made Sherrwood resign and spread the ‘racist’ meme. Fox didn’t brodcast it until 8:50 PM, it was the Administration who told her to resign ‘before Glenn Beck gets a hold of it’ and it’s Glenn Beck who said she was fired unjustly before the whole tape was released.
So again Levi tries to spread the lie, in the hopes that people believe it. Heck, he can’t even get his media matters talking points correct.
But hey, it’s another example of Levi’s lack of ability to back up what he says. Maybe he should read those bastions of Conservative thought, like the Baltimore Sun or the Washington Post.
After all, to Levi, there are no Liberals in positons of power in Government. Again Levi, who do you consider a Liberal? Anyone to the right of Stalin?
Livewire, you’re a two year old. Have a nice life buddy.
And once again, exposed to those pesky things called facts, Levi resorts to name calling.
Well, come on with it then. When did I say “Fox News made Sherrod resign?” Where does the record show that?
This should be good….
Here Levi, your own bile. Those ‘racist news organizations’ you mention as the problem.
But hey, you want to drag them kicking and screaming
to the gas chambers into the future because you’re so much more intelligent, so what’s another smear calling them racist?Studies show…
a) Levi will now complain that I’m quoting him out of context.
b) That I need to learn to close HTML tags.
Are you going to play stupid and pretend like the first ethnic President of the United States might have different dynamics with other countries and world leaders than all of the white guys that came before him?
Why should he, if skin color doesn’t matter?
And that is exactly the point that you don’t get, Levi; you expect Obama to be different because of the color of his skin, not because of the content of his character. You have clearly established two sets of standards for evaluation — “white guy” and “ethnic” based on skin color.
That is why you see conservatives as racist — because they hold people to the same standards, regardless of skin color, and you, having been steeped in the notion of ethnic inferiority, are incensed that conservatives could even insist that Obama meet and live up to the same standards imposed on all those “white guys” before him.
Okay, I guess I’ll ask again. Where did I say that “Fox News made Sherrod resign?”
“about a black woman getting fired for no reason because of the concerted efforts of racist, right-wing media organizations.”
Your words, your beliefs, your big lie.
You and Gobbels and Stalin would all fit together nicely. You lose Levi.
Could you explain what part of that is a lie? Because that isn’t a lie, that’s exactly what happened. Right wing media organizations conspired to destroy a black woman by pretending that she was a racist- that’s unassailable fact. If you remvoe the right-wing media organizations that built this story out of nothing from this equation, none of this ever would have happened. Do you disagree with that statement?
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And of course, the racist Levi just digs in deeper.
This is just absurd. At this moment, the conservative movement is in an even more embarrassing position than they normally are, because many of them, including their much-beloved Fox News, have at worst revealed themselves to be unabashed racists, or at the very least a bunch of amoral twits that have no problem exploiting racial divisiveness for political gain (which is worse?)
And:
This is much more than some careless mistake that the conservative movement can just wash its hands off, or that Fox News can dismiss as some short-term lapse in their journalistic standards – this is day-in, day-out Republicanism in America.
Again, Levi, you’re spinning because your racist beliefs are clearly obvious. A white person who stood up in front of a whites-only group and bragged about how he didn’t help a black person and sent him to “his own kind” would be screamed out of government. But a black woman can’t be expected to NOT be racist, because in your “progressive” mind, all blacks are racist. It’s what they are.
Right wing media organizations conspired to destroy a black woman by pretending that she was a racist- that’s unassailable fact. If you remvoe the right-wing media organizations that built this story out of nothing from this equation, none of this ever would have happened.
So you state that Fox News made Sherrod resign. Nothing else. Everything is the fault of Fox News.
Which is hilarious, given that Fox News did not air a thing until AFTER Sherrod resigned — under pressure from the Obama Party and the NAACP.
So you’re now caught in your Nazi-style lie, Levi. Do you and your Obama Party really think you can Nazi-style lie constantly? Does the fact that you lie like the Nazis did make you a Nazi too, boy?
The unassailable fact is that she’s a race baiting Marxist. Watch the whole damn thing, dumbass. Breitbart and FNC deserve an apology from the liberal thugs.
NDT, the fact that he welcomes being called a socialist makes him akin to a National Socialist.
The pathetic attempts to lie just mean he’s not good at it.
Levi will argue what the meaning of “is” is just to give him the high of believing that he is keeping the ball in the air.
Levi has the ironclad inside poop on evolution as proven, settled science. Levi has the ironclad inside poop on religion as a fantasy crutch for the ignorant and deranged as proven, settled science. Levi has the ironclad poop on man made global warming as proven, settled science. Levi has the ironclad inside poop on racism being the sole property of conservatives and he has the proven, settled science on his side.
You see, Levi is all hyperbole and no substance. Here is Levi in #10 above. (I have added the bold.)
Levi can not give evidence that the conservative movement is made up of people who are racists. But, being Levi, has to make them unabashed racists.
Now look at the foolishness of of what Levi is trying to say:
1.) The conservative movement is normally in an embarrassing position. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
2) The embarrassing position of the conservative movement has risen from “normal” to even more embarrassing. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
3.) Many in the conservative movement have revealed themselves to be unabashed racists. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
4.) Many in the conservative movement (who may not have revealed themselves to be unabashed racists) have shown themselves, at least, to be a bunch of amoral twits. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
5.) The amoral twits among the conservative movement have no problem exploiting racial divisiveness for political gain. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
Numbers one through five are pure opinion. Levi seldom backs up any of his opinions or the overwhelming hyperbole attached with anything resembling evidence. Ergo, Levi just spouts his opinion with no other reasoned support.
Here is Levi in outline form of his opinion flurry:
1. all these same characters whipped you into a frenzy about Jeremiah Wright. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
2. the conservative media has a vested interest in generating anger and political activism among white voters. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
3. any opportunity to suggest that the black nominee/President is a racist has to be taken.(Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
4. pretending like “God Damn America” is a racial epithet, or if it means using Nazi-style propaganda techniques like misleadingly editing video.(Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
5. if their (The Republican Party’s) propaganda arm can make white people feel like they’re under attack from a black man, then they can’t afford not to ……(Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
6. they’re (The Republican Party) certainly not going to win a policy argument or make any sort of coherent case for their vision of the US government.(Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
7. (The Republican Party finds it is) much easier to just distract and scare people with abortionists, gay couples, Muslims, and blacks. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
8. This is much more than some careless mistake that the conservative movement can just wash its hands off, or that Fox News can dismiss as some short-term lapse in their journalistic standards – this is day-in, day-out Republicanism in America. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
9. You’re already willing to forget everything about the Sherrod incident and get right back to work accusing Obama of playing the race card… (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
10. …. a conservative habit intended to drown out and cover for actual cases of conservative racism which inevitably leads to things like this. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
11. You (Republicans/conservative movement) don’t want to learn your lesson because you can’t ….. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
12. Republicans need the racist vote too much. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
13. Understand that when liberals accuse Republicans (…) (it’s) based on events like (Sherrod), on events like the manufactured Rev. Wright controversy, and on decades of Republican policies that ignore minorities and in many cases actively suppress them. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
14. You guys get 1 out of 10 black people to vote for you, and you can dream up some conspiracy theory about how liberals have brainwashed blacks into embracing victimhood if you want to, but the real reason that black people don’t vote Republican is because of things like this. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
15. And even when extremely prominent and influential elements on your side are proven to be manufacturing controversies to exploit racism, you’re coming back the very next day to blame Democrats for all racial diviseness in America. (Statement of fact. No evidence given.)
Levi does not offer any evidence for his sweeping opinions. Apparently, Levi approved of Reverend Wright and his fulminations. Fine by me, but what beyond Levi’s opinion is there to advance the debate?
When challenged, Levi just doubles up his opinions and creates a false premise (opinion) the linchpin for his conclusion which is his premise opinion restated. This isn’t even a circular argument. It is merely his tale told full of sounds, fury and hyperbole and signifying that Levi will not think. I suspect he knows he dare not be either reasoned or reasonable.
And the funny part is that Levi’s pet racist is now demanding that the government shut down websites that she deems “racist”.
If that’s not goofy enough, apparently she’s now insisting that Obama needs her wisdom because he has no idea what it’s like to be a black person.
“He is not someone who has experienced what I have experienced through life, being a person of color. He might need to hear some of what I could say to him,” she told me. “I don’t know if that would guide him in a way that he deals with others like me, but I at least would like to have the opportunity to talk to him about it.”
Again, the gift that keeps on giving. Levi and his fellow progressives want to shut down, Nazi-style, any website that criticizes them. They deem anyone and anything that criticizes Barack Obama as “racist”, while hilariously insisting that Barack Obama isn’t really black.
Sherrod is a perfect government employee, according to the “progressive” Levi. Isn’t that hilarious?
Sharrod is demonstrating more with every minute and with every word flying out of her mouth that the one wise decision Obama made this week was firing her in the first place.
NDT,
I have been surrounded by the Shirley Sherrods of the world my entire adult life. They are agenda driven and have no patience with debate. They either control the discussion or they unleash a stream of invective or ridicule and take their elite selves elsewhere. They surround themselves with an Amen chorus and worker bees. Anyone who watched the ACORN sting videos with an open mind saw the daily workings of the Shirley Sherrod universe.
When I saw the NAACP tape Breitbart posted, I immediately recognized the old Amen corner race pimping warm up. I can hardly give Shirley Sherrod any credit for her supposed “epiphany.” Even if she has turned into a welfare dispenser whose enthusiasm for whites is equal to her enthusiasm for blacks, she sure talked the old race larded lingo to her black audience.
If she has put race behind her, she sure as heck has a strange way of showing it on the NAACP tape. And now she seems to have a long take of intrenched racism she has encountered at the Department of Agriculture. Bring it on Shirley. The Journalolisters will hype it to a screaming crescendo of white men and women run amok.
I would also point out, heliotrope, that Sharrod and the NAACP are themselves such race-baiters that they accuse a greeting card referring to “black holes” of being racist.
No wonder Obama promptly put NASA out of the space exploration business and onto raising Muslim self-esteem. It was obviously an organization promoting racist cracker values.
Moreover, heliotrope, as was tersely put elsewhere, for someone who the Obama Party and its spokesperson Shirley Sherrod are terming a “vicious racist”, Breitbart sure has a lot of black contributors to his websites.
Sherrod is the gift that keeps on giving. Every word she says Obama and the Obama Party now own, and from what we’re seeing, she can’t keep her racist mouth from yammering on and on about the crackers who keep her down.
From what I can gather you’re accusing me of not having any evidence, is that it? I’m not sure you made that clear…
I’m just not sure what to say here, here we are discussing the Sherrod case, which is evidence of everything that I’ve asserted thus far in my posts, and you’re telling me I have nothing. The issue we’re having here is one of honesty – evidence that is convincing to me is explained away by you with conspiracy theories or outright fabrication. You’re so desperate to tell me that I’m wrong that we probably wouldn’t be able to agree on who won the World Series last year.
There just isn’t another way to honestly look at this Sherod thing as anything other than further proof that the conservative movement is interested in spreading racial divison. The pattern of behavior on display from Breitbart, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and conservatives in general has been identified before but has never been so apparent as it is now. Right wing media won’t keep to policy disagreements with Obama, they need their audience to hate him fully, and are thus actively fabricating stories about him being a racist that staffed his cabinet with racists. Shirley Sherod is undeniable proof of this, but it’s just the latest; the Reverend Wright situation was virtually identical to this, and there are a litany of other pieces of evidence as well. Bill O’Reilly is surprised that he can go to a restaurant in a black neighborhood and find articulate, well-mannered black people. Glenn Beck goes on Fox and Friends and flatly asserts that Obama ‘has a deep-seeded hatred of white people.’ The ACORN fraud was initiated by the same charlatan and amplified by the same fake news organization that are involved in the Sherod instance.
Of course, conservatives see it another way. And why shouldn’t you? Heliotrope, when you and I were discussing the evidence for evolution, you eventually confessed that there was nothing that science could demonstrate that would keep you from believing in God. You want to believe it, and so you’re going to, and the evidence just doesn’t matter. If those are the standards you’ll apply in your religious beliefs, why should I expect you to not apply them in your political inclinations? You’ll explain away any contrary evidence and construct your own. In this case, you’re basically ignoring everything I’m saying. I’ve asked you directly to explain your earlier assertions that Sherod was subtly playing to her audience in code words and that you refuse to apologize, and you’re yet to respond, instead choosing to quickly switch the topic back to blacks and Democrats always playing the race card (which was Dan’s purpose with this thread.) The fact is that the Sherod case puts conservative racism on such glaring display that is impossible even for conservatives to respond to it head on, so now you’re desperately trying to change subjects.
Of course, you’ve got the bottom-feeders around here pursuing the usual, conservative, Orwellian tactics (Sherod’s the racist, not Breitbart! If anyone deserves an apology, it’s Fox News!) This is normal conservative behavior, you guys have twisted yourselves into all kinds of shapes to justify all manner of conservative humiliations, i.e., “Actually, we DID find Saddam’s weapons!”, “The Democrats caused the recession!”, “Sarah Palin is not a complete moron!” Conservatives don’t live and think based on collecting and interpreting data, you guys have your conclusions and you will stick by them regardless of what happens, which is coincidentally the exact same way to describe religious conviction. It’s all very understandable in terms of psychology; the human ego is a fragile thing and breaking with decades of religious belief or adherence to a political philosophy requires above-average levels of bravery and resilience. How could you ever be convinced that significant portions of the movement you’ve prided yourself on belonging to is made up of racists? How could you ever be convinced that the war that you enthusiastically cheered on and the torture techniques that you demanded have been terrible wastes of time that have killed thousands of innocent people and have been counterproductive to diminishing terrorism?
If you want the evidence, it’s out there, and I’ve been giving it to you. But you don’t want the evidence, you kind of just want me to go away so you can get back to the conservative dream world where you’re the good guys, where the liberals are the racists, and where God makes you feel significant and at ease. I can try my best but you’ll likely never snap out of that spell.
The facts are clear, Levi.
If you look at our posts, we link and we provide evidence of Sherrod’s racism, Obama’s racism, and the NAACP’s racism.
Your posts are full of assertions with no depth, statements with no evidence, and projection of the sort not seen outside a forty-eight-screen multiplex.
The really funny part is watching you scream about “evidence” while defending an organization that says a greeting card that mentions “black holes” is racist.
Meanwhile, it’s entertaining that you mention the thread about evolution in which you were summarily humiliated by having your contradictions pointed out, including the one you are trying to use now in which you were forced to confront that your antireligious bigotry is such that you were saying that scientists who believe in God are stupid and don’t have a “proper understanding” of science.
End hyperlink, just to be safe.
even funnier is when Levi is now arguing that him accusing Fox of being a vast conservative conspiracy to get her fired, is not saying that fox got her fired. He really is a circus clown
Oh, and it gets better, Livewire: Levi “Nazi-Style” and his fellow progressives are now openly stating that black people who attend tea party events are the same as Jewish Nazis.
Whew:
This may be Levi at his best at being worst. He now wants to quibble over what meaning of evidence is.
For Levi, evidence is apple pie simple: If he says it, its evidence.
He watched Sherrod and declares her to be not only race neutral, but angelic in patching the potholes in the great race divide. For his poor his morally relativistic frontal lobe that is clear evidence. If he deems it, it is so.
This type of willful eely sliming around the simple concept of opinion vs. fact is all Levi has to separate him from admitting his blatant bigotry. I wonder why he can’t evolve.
Strange. When Levi explains how micro-organisms have evolved ways to pass gas out of their ears he sounds down right educated. But when he chats up his world view, he comes across as using the super nova known as dementia as his guiding light.
I wonder how long he has been stuck in age 17 arguing that the world is as he sees it?
Yeah, I’m just not sure where to go from this point. We just don’t see this the same way. I think that specifically targeting a black person by inventing a controversy about how much of a racist she is constitutes racism; you apparently do not. I don’t know how you explain away the actions of Breitbart and right wing media outlets otherwise. They tried to destroy a completely benign black woman in order to slander the black President – what would someone have to do to deserve the racist label in your eyes? If Jesse Jackson was editing videos and MSNBC was flogging his deceptions for hours, would you consider that racism?
And for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t say that most conservatives are racists in a minorities-are-inferior kind of way, I’d say you’re racist in a we-have-to-dislike-these-political-figures-with-every-fiber-of-our-being kind of way. It’s a kind of opportunistic racism intended to strip your political opponents of every last sympathetic component so that the adherents to your ideology can no longer see any admirable qualities. When you’re on the conservatives’ sh*t list, they go after you for everything. If Hillary had won, conservatives would launch attacks based on her gender.
So is that better than being a I-hate-black-people-for-no-good-reason kind of racist? Obviously, it is (though there are definitely many in the conservative movement, some posting on this board, that clearly have that kind of attitude.) For the most part, you can chalk up this opportunistic conservative racism to the general brainwashing job that your political and media leaders have done on you. Like so much else, these attitudes are great for those leaders and terrible for the rank-and-filers, but that’s the nature of cults, isn’t it? I mostly just feel sorry for you.
Stop right where you are, Levi.
Now, you intergalactic hyperbole slut, show us the proof that Shirley Sherrod is a “completely benign black woman” or admit that you practice to deceive by constantly moving the goal post.
Right now, you are tipping the scales at moron.
And once again, Levi accuses some enigmatic ‘right wing media’ for targeting a woman. Continuing the big lie again.
1) His vague assertion of ‘right wing media’ since he was caught accusing Fox of attacking the woman though it wasn’t aired until after she ‘resigned’
2) Ignoring that Bretibart was focusing on the actions of the audience instead of the speaker.
Then again, when Levi says that a socialist isn’t liberal enough for him, what do you expect?
I think that specifically targeting a black person by inventing a controversy about how much of a racist she is constitutes racism; you apparently do not.
That’s odd; attacking a white conservative by inventing a controversy about how much of a racist they are is totally supported and endorsed by “progressives”.
Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
If Jesse Jackson was editing videos and MSNBC was flogging his deceptions for hours, would you consider that racism?
Did you really want to go there, Levi?
How about that, Levi? How about your “progressive” Obama Party attorney, endorsed and supported by the “progressive” Duke faculty and the “progressive” local Obama Party, falsifying evidence and smearing white people as racists for political advantage, with the full support and endorsement of the race-baiter Jesse Jackson?
Or how about the other case where “progressives” and Jesse Jackson tried to justify racist behavior by black people? How did that turn out?
At the hearing, attorneys representing the five men read a statement expressing sympathy to the Barkers and acknowledging that Justin Barker did not use a racial slur. They also apologized to the residents of Jena for the uproar caused by the case.
So let’s see, “progressive” Jesse Jackson drags these people through the mud, wrongly accuses them of racism, uses the legal system to attack them, and where’s your condemnation? Where’s your attack on the race-baiting liar Jesse Jackson?
Answer: Nowhere. Because you, being a racist, will never under any circumstances admit that a black person has ever done anything wrong, just like your racist Sherrod and your racist Obama.
And this was utterly hilarious:
It’s a kind of opportunistic racism intended to strip your political opponents of every last sympathetic component so that the adherents to your ideology can no longer see any admirable qualities. When you’re on the conservatives’ sh*t list, they go after you for everything. If Hillary had won, conservatives would launch attacks based on her gender.
Like “progressives” attacked Sarah Palin AND Hillary Clinton based on their gender?
Like “progressives” called and continue to call Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and other black conservatives “Uncle Toms” and “house slaves”, and insist that black people who attend or participate in tea party events are equivalent to Jewish Nazis?
Every day, Levi, you spit out more accusations, and every day you are refuted with clear, linked, readable examples of “progressives” like yourself engaging in exactly the behaviors you allege conservatives are doing.
You are a racist and a race-baiter, and you are projecting your own racist behavior onto others. You are a hypocrite and a liar.
Because I don’t like grouping people…
Levi “She’s just hiding behind her position and incoherence.”
Personally, I love this “Obama won’t preside over a terrorist attack.”
Must have bought that crystal ball with stimulus money, eh?
Perhaps the best of all is when he accuses others of questioning the President’s birth record ‘because he’s black’ and then it’s pointed out that to Levi Sen McCain must be black since his birth record was questioned, he takes the route his fellow Communists did about the purges under Stalin and Mao. “it never happened“
How is she not? What is one racist thing she’s ever said or done? She’s a public servant helping people of all races, and the two white people she was talking about in her story have taken to television to talk about how great a person she is. Do you think it’s even remotely plausible that you are better qualified to describe this woman’s attitudes and thought processes than that old farmer and his wife?
The burden of proof is on you to prove that she isn’t benign, that she’s a racist or dangerous in some other kind of way. The accusations made against her came from completely discredited sources and they’ve been revealed to be a complete hoax, so what else have you got? Your garbage about her subtle, race-pimping, reading-between-the-lines, audience nodding along, kind of racism? Pffft. Again, like so much else, you’ve got your conclusion and you’re breaking your back to get there, just like your religion, just the rest of your conservative positions.
Levi – Warning, don’t look, there is no racism to be seen in the following:
Power Line Blog: John Hinderaker, Scott Johnson, Paul Mirengoff
http://www.powerlineblog.com
A VERY PARTIAL CORRECTION
July 25, 2010 Posted by John at 8:48 AM
We have been waiting for liberal media sources to correct their many misstatements about the events of March 20, when three Democratic Congressmen falsely claimed that protesters against Obamacare at the Capitol yelled racial epithets at them. As our readers know, multiple eyewitnesses and videos disprove this claim, while Andrew Breitbart’s offer of $100,000 to anyone who can provide evidence in its support has gone unclaimed.
Today the New York Times offers a correction relating to this incident, but it is a limited one at best:
The Political Times column last Sunday, about a generational divide over racial attitudes, erroneously linked one example of a racially charged statement to the Tea Party movement. While Tea Party supporters have been connected to a number of such statements, there is no evidence that epithets reportedly directed in March at Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia, outside the Capitol, came from Tea Party members.
Someday the Times may go all the way and admit that the epithets “reportedly” directed at Lewis (reported by Lewis himself, that is) never occurred. In the meantime, the paper is careful to assure its readers that Tea Party members have made “a number of” racially charged statements, all of which are unspecified.
Perhaps the NYT will discover the timeline of the Sherrod firing and when Fox News and Glenn Beck got involved and look into why the NAACP refused the whole tape to Breitbart and then called for Sherrod’s resignation and then called her a race victim.
Levi, you should take a lesson from Howard Dean. Stick to your guns. Facts do not matter. It is the big lie that will triumph. After all, you are wedded to your manufactured TRUTH, social JUSTICE and the un-AMERICAN WAY. Sort of a leftist not-so-SUPERMAN.
Putz!!!
Don’t forget…
The justification of Sherrod accusing Bretibart and Fox of Racism is her father was killed by a white man
Or Howard Dean’s Levi-like charges in blatant denial of reality.
Now Levi may like to lie like Reuters, but he can’t change the facts.
He’s just hoping that the lie gets repeated enough to make people believe.
But then again, Howard Dean is too far to the right for Levi.
And now we have the racist Sherrod’s husband on tape talking about the need to “stop the white man and his Uncle Toms from stealing our elections”.
Now, bring out your Sherrod and let her condemn her racist husband for using “divisive language”.
More like Sherrod is a racist liar.
Typical misdirection that has nothing to do with this situation in any way, shape, or form. Just because someone can’t provide video evidence of something doesn’t mean it didn’t occur. Is it ironic that I have to explain that concept to someone who believes in God?
I’m not sure what the point is in making distinctions about when Fox News began flogging the Sherrod story. Regardless of when she was fired and when Fox News began reporting on it, it remains the case that Fox News is racist and has no credibility as a news organization. At the end of the day, they still didn’t check their sources, because the conclusion was something that they wanted to actively promote. And Bill O’Reilly went on the air that night to call for her resignation, which renders this lame non-argument invalid anyway.
Now, here comes a rant. What this comes down to is the conflict between credibility and authority, which as I see it is what separates conservatives from liberals more than anything. Credibility is something that is earned, authority is something that is granted. It’s relatively hard to earn credibility; you have to be right about something for a very long time in a lot of different ways for you become credible. It’s rather easy to be given authority, however, and this is what drives conservatism.
The easiest way to get people to give you authority is to make them promises. Look at religion. It promises the ultimate reward; eternal life and eternal pleasure. What else can you offer somebody if they’ve already been promised those two things? Anybody with any lick of sense would want to believe that they can cheat death and have everything that frustrates them in this life crumble away. People that are willing to believe that are giving authority to religious figures and texts; they don’t want to question it, they don’t want to deny it, and they certainly don’t want anyone else ruining their high by pointing out its inconsistencies. Religion is also something that can be taught from a young age, because it’s predicated on impulsive emotions that children can understand like fear and loneliness and guilt, and because parents are ordered to begin indoctrination as soon as possible.
It’s no coincidence that the right is home to the more religiously committed citizens in this country. If you’re in the habit of believing what you want to believe in a religious sense, why would stop believing what you wanted to believe in a political sense? All you need is the authority figures to start making you promises; enter talk radio and Fox News. These elements don’t need to convince their audience with data or logical coherence, they just need to make promises, just like religious people. The Fox News version of reality is that there are always more taxes to cut, there are always more wars to fight against evil people, there is never any need to worry about consumption levels or the environment, that religious belief is completely virtuous and responsible for all the good in the world, and that anybody who disagrees with any of that is a subversive that wants to abandon the country to the Soviet Union and al-Qaeda. In essence, Fox News tells their audience that they should be getting more money, that they’re heroically saving the world through military commitments, and that there will always be enough resources so don’t worry about conservation or waste. Just like religion, who wouldn’t want to believe that stuff?
This perfectly explains the differences in right wing and left wing media. The right has its all-stars that dominate their fields; Rush rules radio and O’Reilly rules cable with the rest of Fox. In these formats – people just plug in and listen. You just sit there and get told what to think by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. There are few liberal analogues to these people and the ones that do exist (Maddow, Olbermann) don’t have a fraction the audience that conservatives pull. That’s because liberals are more at home on the web, where is interactivity and a variety of sources. That’s because liberals are looking for credibility, conservatives are looking for authority. Just look at the difference between the Drudge Report and the Huffington Post; you’ve got basically one editor at Drudge versus a rotating cast of hundreds of contributors at Huffington.
And so it is with Sherrod. Breitbart hasn’t earned credibility, he’s been given authority, so whatever he says must be true in the eyes of conservatives. Fox News hasn’t earned credibility, they’ve been granted authority, so whatever they say must be true in the eyes of conservatives. They don’t need to make a case at all; they know what you want to hear and they know you’re trained to overlook their mistakes. By the way, that’s not to say that liberalism is completely free of this kind of thinking, but it is as not nearly the problem that it is for conservatives.
Levi, that one’s long rant. It’s lacking a couple things though: (1) links & (2) facts.
Of course, it’s even funnier Dan.
Levi believes that slurs were yelled at a man with his own video cameras, but there’s no proof. (yet when shown proof of liberals questioning McCain’s birth record, it ‘doesn’t exist’)
Levi beleives that Fox news is ‘racist’ again, with no proof. (also note how he won’t recant his conspiracy of Glenn Beck to somehow go back in time and report on Sherrod so that the poor White House would fire her)
Yet he mocks my and others’ belief of the Divine, regardless of proof.
Just like his idol, Stalin. Don’t go into the woods with Levi.
Even Mediate has a better understanding of the facts than Levi. It is a shame though, that Levi believes that anyone who disagrees with him is a racist.
But when you’re to the left of the Socialists, I guess that’s normal.
Levi has finally erected his Tower of Babble. Nowhere in Levi’s rantings have I ever heard his rallying cry or learned his game plan.
The God believers are innately stupid and kept in check by their dictatorial theocratic masters. Conservatives are ditto head droolers who repeat what they are told to say by Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and Fox News.
This revelation by the moral relativist twit known as Levi is stereotypical of the lost boys in their mom’s basements hunched over their key boards and popping zits.
Levi, you haven’t got a single original thought in your rant. You can’t even state what underlies what passes for your belief system. You don’t have the courage of any conviction. You can not come here and list the five things you stand for.
Even if you tried, you would start arguing about nipples on fishworms and how corrupted this side is by our intrenched racism, being suckered by religion and getting marching orders through the ice maker in the fridge.
Just because someone can’t provide video evidence of something doesn’t mean it didn’t occur. Is it ironic that I have to explain that concept to someone who believes in God?
No.
But it’s extraordinarily ironic that someone who keeps insisting that they can’t videotape God, so He must not exist, is now arguing that absence of video evidence does not equal nonexistence.
Next:
I’m not sure what the point is in making distinctions about when Fox News began flogging the Sherrod story.
Of course not. You have already reached the absolute, ironclad, adamantine conclusion:
Regardless of when she was fired and when Fox News began reporting on it, it remains the case that Fox News is racist and has no credibility as a news organization.
and thus are not interested in evidence, especially evidence that might demonstrate to the contrary.
Again, silly child, you’re merely projecting. You repeat whatever talking points Obama gives you, so you assume everyone else does the same. You yourself are a vicious racist and race-baiter, so you assume the same of everyone else. You yourself ignore facts and evidence in favor of pushing a narrative, so you believe everyone else does the same.
Well, the thoughts I expressed are mainly my own impressions after having consumed hours and hours of conservative media over the years. I usually prefer to watch Fox News, I seek out conservative websites on the internet, and I’ll alternate between right-wing talk and Christian radio when I’m in the car. I consider this to be a good amount of experience with conservative media and the Republican party, and needless to say, I’ve noticed some patterns.
Now, I understand if that isn’t good enough for you. If you want me to provide external links to other liberals saying similar things that I said, I’m sure I could dig them up, but would it be worth my time? You haven’t bothered to specify what you disagree with in my post, which is typical. It’s another wave of the hand and blanket dismissal from Dan, and you’d like to have me believe that if I tossed in a link or two, you’d respond differently. Yeah right. I’m not going to chase my own tail for you.
If you’d like a response from me, Levi, please provide evidence with links to clips or transcript of FoxNews to show that the news network is racist.
Given the recent liberal interest in context, links to left-wing blogs or websites do not count, must be to the network’s web-page itself. Or to conservative blogs.
Thanks.
NB: comment edited to fix a typo.
Yes, these are the things I said. If you meet one ‘well-informed’ conservative, then you’ve met them all. The scheme is designed to make perfect little copies of of an archetype – a true believer who will reflexively circle the wagons when anyone carrying the conservative banner is attacked. This is especially true in situations such as this, when your leaders have exposed themselves in the most humiliating of ways. But what do you care? It’s not as though you even have to forget about it. No, you’re far more effective for their purposes if you can see the entire series of events completely differently; “Oh no, it’s not conservatives are the racists, it’s those liberals!” Cultish behavior if I’ve ever seen it, and again, it is absolutely no coincidence that the religious right is one of conservatism’s most important constituents.
How boring.
And now… this? Your desperation is quickening. Here you are, as best as I can before bedtime;
1. I believe that we are all tremendously lucky to be here.
2. I believe that life is quite possibly the most interesting thing that is happening in the universe, and that while it has probably developed in other places given the scales of size and time involved, beings such as ourselves are probably exceedingly unique.
3. I believe that consciousness is a random gift of evolution and that it is ultimately up to us as individuals and as a species what we decide to do with it.
4. I believe that all these factors put upon human beings a tremendous responsibility to experience as much as we can by learning as much as we can about the nature of the universe. It’s hard for me to believe that life only ever evolved on earth once, and it’s also hard to believe that there are no other sentient beings out there somewhere, but it is within the realm of possibility that in this entire universe, we may be the only ones capable of recognizing and appreciating that anything exists at all. If this is the case, we should be taking advantage, exploring science, feeling love, etc.
5. Given all of these things, I believe it is important for human beings to take care of one another, to protect this extraordinary and quite possibly completely unique biology lab that we live on, and to do our best to experience this amazing existence to the fullest. The universe existed for billions of years before human beings came along and I fear that it is extremely likely that we’re going to be the ones that take ourselves back out of it again. The universe won’t care. Our bodies will be repurposed as nebulae and stardust, there will be never any indication that we even existed. The universe won’t miss us, but we will miss it.
How’s that?
Here’s a video montage of Fox News excitedly describing the story to their audience;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/23/fox-news-shirley-sherrod_n_657512.html
You’ll see things like Bill O’Reilly saying things like ‘we can’t have skin color determining federal assistance,’ you’ll see Newt Gingrich describing her remarks as ‘viciously racist,’ you’ll see one of the random, anonymous Fox & Friends bimbos talk about how she’s bragging about her actions, etc.
This demonstrates two things that are true about Fox News. First, that they are a terrible news organization, more interested in gossip and promoting conservatism and audience share than accuracy and fairness. Second, that they are racist. And let’s be specifiic here; Sherrod never meant anything to Breitbart or Fox News – the target of this manufactured controversy was always Obama, who Fox News and the rest of the conservative movement would like to portray as some kind of Black Panther intent on getting revenge on the white man. They do this by attempting to destroy black people that have some kind of connection to Obama, usually by directing the full force of their news network into either making something out of nothing and applying double standards (as in Rev. Wright), or by flat out making sh*t up (Sherrod). There is no plausible explanation for why Fox News would run this story as enthusiastically as it did if this were not the case. They sensed another Rev. Wright ratings bonanza and were too stupid to trust a known con-man.
If you’re of the opinion that this was some minor mistake, than you’re naive or you’re playing stupid. Fox News has a vested interested in getting people to think Obama is a racist, so they take every chance they can get to do so. What other possible explanation is there?
Levi, I’m sorry, your response does not meet the requirements of the request. Please put those remarks in context — a link to a left-wing web-site does not qualify as a link to a conservative blog (as per the passage you quoted in your post).
5. Given all of these things, I believe it is important for human beings to take care of one another, to protect this extraordinary and quite possibly completely unique biology lab that we live on, and to do our best to experience this amazing existence to the fullest.
Which is, of course, why you support the wholesale murder of millions of human lives annually, ensuring that their “amazing existence” is snuffed out through abortion because, with your magical ability to read the future, they are worthless, excess surplus whose lives will never be in any way meaningful.
Adding sick irony to the process, you justify this wholesale murder as “good for society” and demand Federal dollars to carry it out.
If you truly valued human life as unique, Levi, you wouldn’t be killing babies. But you do, so the fact that you do exposes you quite nicely as a pathological and sociopathic liar.
And clearly, as we see from his response to Dan, he can’t read, either.
And again, the big lie Levi trots out, like a trained pig following the orders of its master.
“Fox News reported nothing on air until Sherrod had already resigned as far as I can tell — and a resignation like that is absolutely news.” David Zurawik, Baltimore Sun
“Lending credibility to her side of the story, let me play her comments right after stating that she turned the white farmer over to “one of his own kind” – Glenn Beck.
“WH official: No West Wing pressure in Sherrod case. Vilsack’s call. POTUS briefed after fact, fully supports Sherrod’s ouster.”
“There is zero tolerance for discrimination at USDA, and I strongly condemn any act of discrimination against any person,” Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack
We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers,” the statement said.
“Her actions were shameful,” it continued. “While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man.” – NAA(L)CP
So by the Levi standard, clearly the Administration and the NAA(L)CP are both racist organizations. Glenn Beck, however is a paragon of virtue, since he never came out for her firing.
I guess things break down, when your moral contemparies are Stalin and Mao, eh Levi?
As expected, you’re going to be a whiny little child and continue to dodge responding to me. I don’t care about your absurd requirement that I can only link to a conservative blog – you do understand that the point I’m trying to make here is that conservatives completely ignore the deficiencies and mistakes in conservative media, don’t you?
Further, the video linked is a collection of clips from Fox News. I don’t want you to go read the article, or browse the website, or leave a comment – you’re just supposed to watch the video. If the evidence for my argument is a video of news coverage, what does it matter what website it is embedded at?
I’ve provided the context that I perceive for those comments; Fox News wants people to think that Obama is a racist, so they distort and invent stories about black government employees being racist. I’m waiting for you to give me an explanation for how what you see in that video is anything other than what I’ve described. What is the innocent explanation for a purported news organization to be calling someone ‘viciously racist’ for no good reason? What is the innocent explanation for leading their viewers to believe that this woman was discriminating against white people in her role in the government? I can see the context of these statements as plain as day, and it’s up to you to suggest how it could be different.
I don’t suppose it would matter, but just know that I have absolutely no faith in you to respond. Your type always attaches these little disclaimers to their comments so that you can excuse yourself from arguing and pretend like it’s my fault. So sorry Dan, that I tried to respond as quickly as I could, that I did a Google search for “Sherrod Fox News” and linked to the first video that came up that supported my point, and that I presented my opinion on what that video means. I was only trying to have a conversation about it with you.
Get off the cross, Levi, we need the wood.
You link to a edited video montage, to accuse someone of ‘racism’ by airing an edited video. Are these edits before or after “
Right wing media organizationsthe Administration and the NAA(L)CP “conspired to destroy a black woman by pretending that she was a racist- that’s unassailable fact”?Meanwhile for those of us who live in linear time, it doesn’t change that Fox reported on the comments and resigning after she resigned. And as cited above Glenn Beck was one of the loudest voices saying it was wrong.
but hey, keep repeating the Big Lie. Gobbles (and FDR) would be proud.
What difference does this make whatsoever? This is an answer to a question that nobody asked. I certainly never said that the Obama administration waited until after Fox News ran with the story to fire Sherrod, so why are you pretending as if that is the crux of my argument?
It remains the case that Fox News spent a good portion of its broadcasting that day talking about how much of a racist they just knew this woman to be and how poorly it reflected on the Obama adminsitration. Neither of those things turned out to be true and that is why this was important; it supports the argument that Fox is not a news organization and that it exploits racial issues through distortions and fabrication. You and others appear to be constructing some false premise where those points are invalid so long as she was fired before Fox News reported on it…. which just doesn’t make any sense, and in any case, isn’t the point that is being argued.
Who cares? That one of the stooges can come on after the fact and seem downright reasonable in comparison doesn’t excuse the concerted efforts of the rest of the network. It bears mentioning as well, that Gelnn Beck, the virtuous defender of racial equality, was the one that went on national television and accused Obama of having ‘a deep-seeded hatred of white people’ last year. So yeah, he’s squeaky-clean.
Oh, well excuse me. I guess I had some expectation that a political website would encourage political discussion, but all anyone ever seems to want to do around here is run away.
It’s a montage, which demonstrates that there was more than one instance of deception and that the problem is network-wide. If you want to sift through the Fox News website and watch the entire broadcasts, you can go right ahead. It was Monday, July 19th. Watch O’Reilly and Hannity in full if you feel like there is some trick here. Do you think you’ll discover that there is some positive, non-racist context for Gingrich claiming that she’s making ‘viciously racist’ statements?
“It remains the case that Fox News spent a good portion of its broadcasting that day talking about how much of a racist they just knew this woman to be and how poorly it reflected on the Obama adminsitration.”
Yes, since the first mention of it was at 8:50 in Bill O’Riley’s Show. Then in Hannity’s show. For those of us in Linear time, that’s not ‘most of the day’ and again shows you lie when you said “a black woman getting fired for no reason because of the concerted efforts of racist, right-wing media organizations.”
Again, citing that bastion of conservative news, the the Baltimore Sun:
“This is an example of blaming a media outlet that in this case, at least, is not necessarily the party that deserves the heavy blame. Fox News reported nothing on air until Sherrod had already resigned as far as I can tell — and a resignation like that is absolutely news. According to Sherrod, furthermore, the resignation was demanded by the Obama administration, which could have made a big difference by questioning the video and saying it was looking into the matter on its own.”
After the fact? Levi, Glenn ran his show hours before the full tape was aired.
As Richard Cohen points out the ONLY connection Fox had was the clip on their Website. A fact that Alalhpundit can’t independently verify.
(There was an article about Fox holding off on reporting the story until it could be verified, but I can’t find the link)
Once again, Levi. Continue to lie, maybe enough people will believe it. Gobbels would be proud.
So lets see if I have Levi-logic right. “A benign black woman got fired, because of the concerted efforts of racist right wing media organizations, which didn’t report on the event until after she was fired. This proves that the right wing is racist, and yet the people on the left who condemned her and fired her aren’t.”
Do you work to sound this paranoid and stupid? Or does it come naturally?
And in 82, Levi, apparently still existing in non-linear time, argues that Fox shouldn’t report news that every other organization was reporting, after the woman was fired/resigned.
It’s funny watching him sputter in rage.
Levi,
Your belief system rapidly cobbled together before bedtime is charming. In fact, it is downright charming. And hardly arguable. It is full of faith and admiration and super sweet hopefulness.
However, it is also sterile. How do you rise to your position of sweeping judgment of others and your progressive’s messianic drive to herd the lesser sheep among us for their own good?
I wonder if some are just born to the elitist caste and it is their burden to carry the rest of us? If I convert to the progressive think method, do I graduate from sheep-to-be-led caste to the decider and judgment caste? Do I have to radically modify my belief in God or just ditch it entirely?
There seems to be a great deal more to your belief system than the Candyland version you have laid out. For instance, how does government as god arise from your belief system?
Again, the timeline is completely beside any and all points. Fox News’ problem in this situation is that it’s proven that they don’t apply any kind of scrutiny to their sources and that they’re eager to further a narrative about the President being racist. It’s not that they’re responsible for getting her fired, it’s that they threw an orgy on air to celebrate. Breitbart launched the attack, the Obama administration buried her, and Fox News danced on her grave. There’s no one to have sympathy for in that situation, they all look like fools, and they all deserve scorn. Fox News does deserve some degree of blame, because without a massive media organization to mindlessly parrot these kinds of ridiculous attacks, people like Breitbart wouldn’t have the back-up they need to even attempt the con. Fox News creates the environment where this kind of opportunistic racism is expresssed.
Again, Levi cites ‘massive parroting’ that doesn’t exist.
Proof? What’s proof to Levi, or Howard Dean for that matter?
Maybe he’s confusing Fox with Journolist?
He must also not get out much, since he and I have different definitions of the word ‘orgy’.
Let’s change Levi’s quote to match reality:
“
Fox News’The left’s problem in this situation is that it’s proven that they don’t apply any kind of scrutiny to their sources and that they’re eager to further a narrative about thePresidentright being racist.”Unless, Levi is arguing that the Huff Po and the Nation aren’t ‘liberal’.
Or is it that the NAA(L)CP threw Sherrod under the bus because she black enough?
Yes, yes it does. Why is Bill O’Reilly taking to the airwaves to imply that Sherrod was discriminating against white people while holding her government job? That was the deliberate distortion that Breitbart presented and it was yes, mindlessly parroted by Bill O’Reilly, the biggest personality on Fox News.
Here are the two facts Levi posts:
1.) It’s proven that Fox News does not apply any kind of scrutiny to their sources.
2) It’s proven that Fox News is eager to further a narrative about Obama being a racist.
Levi, do this for us, please: Present the proof. We will let you slide on the points of whether Fox News ever applies any kind of scrutiny or whether Fox News is eager to further a racist narrative.
All you have to do is show the proof that Fox News ever skips over applying scrutiny to their sources and that Fox News has any narrative whatsoever about Obama being a racist.
The way you present the proof is quite simple. You present the facts in evidence. You may not quote opinions of others. You will show the “scientific” measurement which leads to the inescapable logic that Fox News does not fact check or evaluate their sources. You will direct us please, to the study showing a propensity on the part of Fox News to paint Obama as a racist.
And, just out of curiosity, could you explain why you insist on hanging yourself? You not only make claims that can’t be substantiated, but you compulsively diaper them in hyperbole that makes the claims downright idiotic.
Again, the timeline is completely beside any and all points.
As usual, Levi ignores any evidence that doesn’t fit his talking points.
You would think that a liberal who was accusing Fox News of getting someone fired would be interested in the sequence of events that led up to the firing, especially given that the timeline and several other points of evidence clearly show that Fox neither aired or said anything about the woman until AFTER her firing.
And what’s Levi’s excuse to get around the facts?
Fox News does deserve some degree of blame, because without a massive media organization to mindlessly parrot these kinds of ridiculous attacks, people like Breitbart wouldn’t have the back-up they need to even attempt the con.
And the stench of urine and fouled trousers fills the air as Levi tries desperately to spin out of the fact that he blamed Fox News completely without evidence or merit.
Pathetic, child. Absolutely pathetic. And what really makes it beyond ludicrous is your attempt to attack Dan for not responding, when you yourself adamantly refuse to respond to posts like mine that clearly and in your own words demonstrate your inherent racism, your race-baiting actions, and your infantile and contradictory reasoning.
Wow, then by the levi standard…
“Why is
Bill O’ReillyThe Obama administration and the NAA(L)CP taking to the airwaves to imply that Sherrod was discriminating against white people while holding her government job? That was the deliberate distortion that Breitbart presented and it was yes, mindlessly parroted byBill O’Reilly, the biggest personality on Fox Newsthe Admistration and the NAA(L)CP.”Congratulations Levi. You’ve just ‘proved’ that the administration and the NAA(L)CP are racist. Thank you for proving Andrew Breitbart’s words for him.