Here’s one comparison The White House can make to its predecessor: President Barack Hussein Obama is now at George W. Bush job disapproval levels.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -19.
Sixteen percent (16%) give Congress good or excellent marks for their performance while 56% say poor. Republicans have a seven-point advantage on the Generic Congressional Ballot.
Most voters (58%) oppose having the federal government forgive a portion of mortgage debt for homeowners whose home is worth less than they owe. Sixty-three percent (63%) say such a plan would be unfair to those who are currently able to pay their mortgage. Those the proposal would theoretically help reject the idea of a federal bailout by a two-to-one margin.
Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove. The Rasmussen Reports Media Meter shows that media coverage of President Obama has been 54% positive over the past week.
We are on the verge of taking America back from the Progressive/Socialists who hijacked America in 2008 with their bait-and-switch game. No more Cloward. No more Piven. No more Alinsky.
For my own part I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775
Never fear, never surrender. We ARE Americans.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
All Obama’s done has been to protect and support Wall Street, the Big Banks and Big Labor. Billions of borrowed dollars to preserve the jobs and pensions of the NEA, NFT, SEIU and the UAW…while millions of small businesses and their employees choke on higher taxes, unnecessary mandates like compulsory health insurance, and a dearth of business credit while the “elites” feel virtuous buying Chevy Volts using generous tax credits taken from the pockets of the American taxpayer.
Meanwhile, my middle-class suburban clients have all but stalled all my upcoming projects due to fears of a double dip and the further erosion of their investments, savings and housing equity.
A major step forwards would be a Federal mandate that all publicly-funded pensions… and all governmental workers Federal, state or local who’s salary, overtime and benefits exceed 120% their local private-sector mean-income take a permanent 80% haircut.
Were you a bit over-excited when you typed this? Bush made it to 25% total approval during late 2008, Obama is currently at 23% strong approval. That’s an apples-to-oranges comparison as these are totally different numbers. As you yourself stated further down in your article, Obama’s total approval rating is currently at about 44% according to Rasmussen (effectively identical to the RealClearPolitics average, my preferred measure), which would be similar to Bush during mid-2005 and actually slightly better than Reagan at the same point in his Presidency.
So yeah, not great but not catastrophic as Rasmussen’s own Senate Balance of Power demonstrates. Their projected losses for the Democrats seem to be anywhere from three (if they only lose Solid GOP seats), to four (if they only lose Solid and Lean GOP seats), to eight (if they also lose all Democrat Toss-Ups), to a worst case scenario of eleven (if the Democrats can only hold Solid Dem seats). These calculations also assume the Democrats don’t pick up any Republican Toss-Up seats, of which Rasumssen currently lists two.
I’m unable to find anything similar to the Senate Balance of Power at Rasmussen for the House (at least not without paying), so going back to RealClearPolitics shows a very messy picture for both the House and the Senate (though the overall RCP picture looks slightly more pessimistic for the Democrats than Rasumussen).
Finally, back to Rasumssen for one more little tid-bit:
Mama Grizzlies?
I really appreciated the inclusion of this:
Most voters (58%) oppose having the federal government forgive a portion of mortgage debt for homeowners whose home is worth less than they owe. Sixty-three percent (63%) say such a plan would be unfair to those who are currently able to pay their mortgage. Those the proposal would theoretically help reject the idea of a federal bailout by a two-to-one margin.
I bought my condo in 1988.
Took out a 15 year loan.
Paid it off early.
But I have watched Obamites in our condo complex NOT pay their mortgages at all.
Not pay their homeowner dues at all.
Not pay their property taxes at all.
For 18 months now.
And nothing happens to any of them!
(Well, they aren’t allowed to be on the board….but so what.)
I’d love to see that house of cards fall all over them.
When you ignore your bills it is so easy to afford nice vacations, big new cars, other toys in life.
They should NOT be rewarded with taxpayer cash for their selfish lifestyle.
Just out of curiosity, who can we elect next time that we’ll all like? I think Americans should figure out someone we can all get behind. Who would that be?
The empty suits reveals himself to be a hollow man; this is what happens when one is devoid of leadership coupled with, in Obama’s case, his naked Marxist ideology.
Nan G, they are not being punished because of the cash infusion to the toilets of Fannie May & Freddie Mac. Freddie Mac is asking for another $1.8 BILLION on top of the rumor Obama may let bad mortgages be excused due to his panic in the November elections.
Fannie May & Freddie Mac have to be cut off from the Feds & have the housing bubble properly burst so it can get out of this mess. The Feds are making the problems worse…
Bruce, my friend…
You may know I’ve been reading and posting on this blog for the last seven years or so. In all that time I have NEVER seen you as animated and fired up as you have become in recent months.
Can’t WAIT to read your articles during this election cycle!!! 🙂
As for serenity…
The difference, my dear, is that Reagan wasn’t a narcissistic, self-involved bullshit artist. Hence, the Mocha Messiah shouldn’t feel all that awesome about the comparison. Although, considering the colossal prick’s equally colossal ego, he probably will anyway.
Another difference between Reagan and “The One” is that Reagan’s agenda didn’t scare the hell out of most Americans. He was totally upfront about all he really hoped to accomplish — and when all was said and done, he actually managed to get a lot of it done.
Not all of it, of course. The trolls will surely scream this.
Reagan is today remembered as a great president, even by many who did not vote for him.
Our new, self-appointed Messiah could never tell the whole truth about what he wanted to do, because it WOULD scare the living crap out of most of the nation. Now that we’re on to him, even many of those who (like me) voted for him no longer want him in charge.
Yet the hollow, cynical spin from the true believers goes on and on…
President Obama is the anti-Reagan, although he is trying desperately to have Reagan’s superficial halo since his halo disintegrated like cotton candy when it hit the water. Obama has more in common with President Jimmy Carter than Reagan. Any attempt to be like Reagan, superficially, will fall flat given his Marxist agenda.
The mocha messiah. Cute. Am looking forward to the explanation of how that is relevant. No racism anywhere around here – just, uh, you know, mentioning his color, cuz… uh, some folks may have forgotten it.
Nah. The liberals who only voted for him BECAUSE keep reminding us.
BECAUSE he’s black, rather.
That’s what I get for answering a call while typing.
Check it out, you sanctimonious prick. I could frankly give a shit about…
A) teh iWon’s race, and/or
B) your delicate, overwrought, perpetually victimized sensibilities.
If you have something to say that is even remotely relevant to Dan’s original post, please feel free to “stand and fill this room with your intelligence.”
Otherwise, you’re nothing but a oh-so-morally-superior troll, and a low-rent one at that.
The mocha messiah. Cute. Am looking forward to the explanation of how that is relevant. No racism anywhere around here – just, uh, you know, mentioning his color, cuz… uh, some folks may have forgotten it.
I always love it when the race-baiters like Phil who start screaming “racist” any time Obama’s competency or decisions are questioned start going off about how OTHER people are obsessed with Obama’s skin color.
That’s the only card you have left, isn’t it, Phil? You can’t defend Obama based on character, policy, or actions, so you have to shut up anyone who criticizes him by calling them a racist.
Pathetic.
I judge my truth by the volume of my opponents’ screams.
I judge my truth by the volume of my opponents’ screams.
Even more pathetic is smearing Spaniards as racist for shits and giggles.
Phil, you can believe what you want, but when he’s screaming that he REALLY DOESN’T MEAN YES WHEN HE SAYS NO, you probably are, indeed, committing rape.
Typical leftist bullshit: tell himself whatever he needs to in order to justify his actions. Sounds more like a sociopath to me.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say Phil was quoting GWB during his entire presidency, no?
Ya see, Phil, that’s how it works — in order to have a solid belief system, one kinda has to have the courage of his convictions. Get it now???
With every comment, you journey further and further from sense. Perhaps you might consider explaining your original post, and the words you chose to use? Or maybe you’ll just continue to make loud noises, in the pathetic hope of distracting attention? If you have points of principle to make, go ahead and make them. If you wish to continue to make points of race, by all means, go on. We all enjoy seeing you for who you are.
I love how Obama fooled so many during the campaign into believing he was this centrist. Now while in office he is the most left wing President I’ve seen in my lifetime. I wasn’t an idiot, I wasn’t fooled. His left wing nutts say he’s no liberal socialist cos he hasn’t installed UK healthcare and nationalized all the businesses like Chavez. The next step in our velvet revolution is Nov 2. The tea party that day will restore some sanity to our govenment.
I judge my truth by the volume of my opponents’ screams.
Well, that explains it. Obviously, his truth has nothing to do with logic, facts, or rational analysis.
#16: “I judge my truth by the volume of my opponents’ screams.”
Those aren’t your opponents. It’s the laaaaambs.
Or maybe you’ll just continue to make loud noises, in the pathetic hope of distracting attention?
You mean like smearing millions of Americans as “raaaacist” in a pathetic attempt to distract from the colossal failures of Chairman Obama?
Who’s “we,” sweetheart? As far as I can tell, you’re the only delusional in the room.
First of all, fuckwit, I made my point long before you came into the room and began throwing your feces on the walls. Secondly, The whole pretentious thing just doesn’t worm on you, so feel free to go ahead and put it back on the rack, mm’kay?
Now then, if YOU have anything to contribute to Bruce’s OP, I’d LOVE to hear it. Coming from an intellectual titan such as yourself, I’m certain WE ALL would love to hear it.
And by “we all,” I mean the overwhelming number of commenters here who are farily certain you’re one of those obnoxious twats who scours the internet looking for references to the Mocha Messiah, “AND THEY SURE AS HELL BETTER BE NICE WORDS!!!!!,” right sweetie????
SLAP!!!
The race card is so easy to play. It’s like screaming “rape!” when someone taps your cart at the grocery store.
Obama had a white mamma and was raised by a white grandmother and chooses to be full black. Whatever. He isn’t “high yellow” or a National Geographic. (Those are “private” black terms.) I don’t know if he reads Jet of Ebony or watches BET or runs with the NAACP, but I do know that he sat in a pew and listened to Black Liberation Theology.
So, as long as you don’t object to calling him the “messiah” it seems passing strange that you object to “mocha.”
One might call you a race-baiter, Phil Holmes.
I prefer to call him precisely what I called him yesterday — a sanctimonious prick.
It’s amazing – truly amazing – to watch you all scream and not once respond to my point. Not once. It’s appalling to realize that for many of the people here it all boils down to the simple truth that you detest the idea of a black man getting to power and telling you what to do. Mocha Messiah. No racism there. Absolutely not. Let’s just call Phil a prick. Yeah. That’ll do the trick. And we can call the first Latino president “the Brown Clown.” We can call the first Asian president, “the Yellow Menace.” But, no racism there. Nope. Just pure principle. Which explains how loudly everyone here screamed when Bush was president and did everything that Obama is currently doing. And how coincidental it was that the Tea Party started RIGHT AFTER Obama was elected. I guess you were just doing your pre-work when Bush was in office. Yep. I’m just blinded by everyone’s principles here.
Phil, I think the only blinders you have on are your own.
I don’t see any vitrol aimed at Condi Rice, or at Clarence Thomas from the right. Michael Steele’s well deserved scorn has nothing to do with the colour of his skin and everything to do with the foot in his mouth.
It wasn’t the right who coined the phrase ‘magic negro’ It wasn’t the right who questioned if he was ‘black enough’. It’s not the right that calls him a ‘clean and articulate’ black man, or says that he was ‘light skinned’ and didn’t have a ‘Negro Dialect’ It’s not Mitch McConnel who said that President Obama ‘should be serving him coffee’.
And to quote a great president ‘There you go again’ tarring the Tea partiers as racists, despite no evidence showing that. Hells, those ‘racist Tea Partiers’ didn’t even rise to the bait the ‘tolerant’ Democrats offered in walking through a tea party rally, begging for racial insults that never came.
We’ve had 2 years of listening how he’s going to be a ‘uniter not a divider’ on the issue of race. We’ve had 2 years of seeing his actions being anything but. “Wise Latinas’ white cops ‘Acting stupidly’ Apologizing to China for AZ’s ‘Human Right’s violations’ arguing that people (and nations) are afraid of his middle name…
Why don’t I ‘respond to [your] point’? Because it’s laughable. A last desperate attempt to try to deflect criticism from our Vacationer in Chief, because he can’t be defended any other way. in fact, if you’re smearing the tea partiers of racism because you want to lump people into little groups, then surely you won’t mind if I state that you support mass murder and genocide, because the Democrats caucuss with a socialist. Or that I call the President a terrorist because of his long association with them.
Jon Stewart pulled out a “Race Card” the other night on his show, swiped it, and announced it had been maxed-out.
Sorry, that bird don’t fly no more.
I’m pretty sure the first “Yellow Menace” was Spiro Agnew. LOL
That’s your first mistake, Phil – your refusal to respond to Bruce’s post, and your subsequent attempts to control the narrative here by playing your bullshit race card.
You don’t control the narrative here, genius, any more then you have the authority to be claiming the moral high ground when your worldview is shaped and led by thieves and liars.
Go peddle your bullshit sanctimony somewhere else – we’re quite busy here trying to keep track of the damage we’ll have to repair once the Risen Son of Lies is tossed back onto the ash heap of failed Socialists.
By the by…
Anyone else notice how Phil didn’t seem to give a damn about this thread until I called Dear Leader the Mocha Messiah?
These fools have become glorious one-trick-ponies, haven’t they? 🙂
It’s amazing – truly amazing – to watch you all scream and not once respond to my point. Not once.
You didn’t have a point. You came in with a piss poor attempt to make folks who aren’t supportive of the party of slavery, segregation and the Ku Klux Klan into “raaaacists”. You failed miserably and now you have to make a piss poor hifalutin attempt to appear as the smartest person in the room. You have no point for anybody to respond to. Just the usual dumbass liberal vomitous.
Now take your burning cross elsewhere.
Niiiiiiiiiiiice, TGC! 🙂
it all boils down to the simple truth that you detest the idea of a black man getting to power and telling you what to do
Yeah, because we all be so down if it were a white guy imposing socialism, nationalizing health care, taking over General Motors, alternately bailing out and over-regulating the financial sector, taking over the student loan industry, pushing for amnesty and open borders, pushing for control of the energy section through cap and trade, impeding the response to an oil spill, running a corrupt Justice Department, bailing out his cronies on Wall Street and in the Big Unions, and running up trillion-dollar deficits year after year. Yeah, we would totally support all of those policies, if only some white guy like Joe Biden or Dennis Kucinich were in charge.
You totally nailed us Phil. Well done. Slow clap.
Just when I think TGC has finished the job, V da K goes and and puts the proverbial bullet in the head, effectively ending the poor victim’s already-obsolete argument.
I had indicated earlier in this thread that Bruce’s tack as of late was more than welcome, given my long history here at GP. Very nice indeed, to see two of my fellow long-standing commenters still here to back him up, and more than willing to take the fight to those who spent 8 years thinking they alone had the ability to “speak truth to power.”
Which explains how loudly everyone here screamed when Bush was president and did everything that Obama is currently doing.
And meanwhile, Phil, what were you doing when Bush was doing all of those things that Obama is currently doing?
Answer: You were screaming about how awful Bush was and how he needed to be impeached for these criminal actions.
So long story short, you were demanding criminal punishment for a white guy engaged in behaviors for which you are praising and supporting a black guy.
Who, indeed, is the racist?
…and then NDT comes in and kicks the bloody corpse in the head on his way out the door. LOL 🙂
It’s not hard to beat up the progs when they show up with the same stinking, cliched, hackneyed argument no matter what the issue is. “You’re racists!” “Bush did it!” Isn’t it telling that the progs never try to make a case for Obama’s policies on the merits of those policies? Explain why Obama’s massive (much larger than Bush’s) deficits are good policy. Show that Government can provide better, cheaper health care than the private sector. Explain why it was a wise policy to shut down oil drilling in the Gulf.
Then, we can really go to work on them.
“And meanwhile, Phil, what were you doing when Bush was doing all of those things that Obama is currently doing?”
NDT nails it. The “progressives” who screamed so loud about intrusive government and lost civil liberties during the Bush years have been buffoonishly, negligently silent in protesting it now that Obama is in charge.
Thus have they squandered every scrap of credibility they ever had. America won’t be fooled the next time.
Meanwhile, at least a few of us who voted for Obama (in my case, because I’m an Arizonan who’s had more than enough of McCain already, and didn’t want him in the White House any more than I did Bush) have left the Left for good and become libertarians.
Gene, perhaps calling everyone who voted for Obama an idiot — including those who are sorry they did — is not the most constructive thing in the world. Trying to pick “the lesser of two evils” in every damned election is not the easiest thing in the world.
Perhaps both major parties might actually entertain the notion of nominating someone who’s actually read the Constitution.
Very well said, Lori…
While I voted for Barr, I have to confess I was completely taken with Dear Leader that night in Grant Park. I was so hopeful, and his speech was so well-written, I found myself hoping he could and would do exactly what he claimed willing and able to do.
Alas, I, and countless others, were completely conned, and I would hope that our fellow conservatives would understand that come election night, no matter who wins, we celebrate the peaceful transition of power.
Then again, if they prove themselves to be craven socialists, at that point, we commence to doing everything we can do drive them back from whence they came. 🙂
My GOD, I love this country!!!!
V the K did I just read that you said Phil got the clap?
It is difficult to follow the posts since my last post because of the noise of so much self-congratulation, so much juvenile posturing, so many lame slaps on each other’s backs. It took so little for the level of discourse here to drop. Meanwhjile, not one acknowledgement that “Mocha Messiah” is a silly and racist comment.
Gene, perhaps calling everyone who voted for Obama an idiot — including those who are sorry they did — is not the most constructive thing in the world.
Agreed. For the next two years, I think a lot of us will have to gracefully allow people to tell us that Obama lied to them, although the snarky rejoinder of “He didn’t have to work too hard to do it, did he?” may stay quietly at the back of the brain.
Phil begs the question whether it’s even fair to pick on someone who doesn’t even have enough sense to realize he’s been demolished. But since he’s come back for more, one should ask, “Phil, what makes you think we would all be in support of Obama’s agenda if he were a white guy?”
Meanwhjile, not one acknowledgement that “Mocha Messiah” is a silly and racist comment.
Ah, I see Phil is trying to play the moral authority card.
In that case, I see Phil’s card and raise him four examples graciously provided by Livewire.
It wasn’t the right who coined the phrase ‘magic negro’ It wasn’t the right who questioned if he was ‘black enough’. It’s not the right that calls him a ‘clean and articulate’ black man, or says that he was ‘light skinned’ and didn’t have a ‘Negro Dialect’ It’s not Mitch McConnel who said that President Obama ’should be serving him coffee’.
Now, if Phil is willing to state that all the people who made those remarks are silly racists, then we can have a conversation.
But somehow, I doubt that Phil Holmes has the balls to call Harry Reid and Joe Biden, among others, silly racists.
And therein, the game-winning point: Phil Holmes is determining whether or not one is racist based, not on actual statements, but on political affiliation. To race-baiters like Phil Holmes, it is impossible for Obama Party members to be racists even as the Obama Party endorses and supports calling black conservatives “house slaves”, “oreos”, and “Sambos”, or calling white people “crackers”, or insinuating that any Hispanic individual who belongs to the Republican Party is self-loathing, and so forth.
We are now 20 months into Obama’s Presidency and still there is so much controversy just on the issue of what the President may be called or how he is described. From the start of his campaign no one has been allowed to refer to him as a socialist, despite his “spread the wealth around” admission, and we aren’t even allowed to refer to him by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama. Here’s the thing–the Left also complained back in 2008 that we must be racists because we wouldn’t even “give President Obama a chance” to show how his ideas would help the country. Well, Obama has now been President for 20 months and we have had a reasonable opportunity to evaluate his performance. Thus, I propose that we end this divisive rhetoric with the Democrats and compromise on a name for President Obama that is based solely on an objective evaluation of his performance in office and that doesn’t offend the Democrats’ racial sensitivities.
Therefore, from now on, can we all agree to refer to the President as “FAILURE”? How does FAILURE sound to everybody? Is everyone okay with FAILURE? Does anyone have any concerns about the name FAILURE? Anyone in the back? No? So FAILURE is good? Everyone is comfortable with FAILURE? Great. FAILURE it is. Thanks everybody for your input!
Gosh, it feels so good to finally end all of the petty squabbling about such a non-issue like what we call Obama. Now we can move forward and focus on the issues.
I see Phil returns, yet continues to refuse to address the original post.
Until such time as this shitstain does so, I’m done indulging his infantile tantrums.
VtheK, more self-congratulations, whatever. As far as supporting Obama’s agenda if he were white, where was all your noise when W was doing many of the things Obama is doing now? Bailing out the banks, running up the deficit, constricting civil rights during the “war on terror” – where was your outrage then? Where was the Tea Party then?
NDT, I am not the first one to hold his tongue in the face of evidence. “Mocha Messiah” is a silly racist comment. You want me to talk about other comments that were NOT made in this thread, by Reid or Biden? Expose the bullshit comments here first. Accept first that that comment was a silly racist comment, and THEN we can have a conversation. Otherwise, you are just throwing out distractions. I have not called anyone an Oreo or a House Slave, etc. I am just pointing out that “Mocha Messiah” is a silly racist comment by a poster here who still does not have the courage to admit he went over the line, and hides behind juvenile, playground language.
In other words, he’ll condemn anyone but his fellow mass murderes.
Way to show those colours, Phil.
And where were we? Here
Yeah yeah I know, ripped your whining to shreds again. Pity you’re so blinded by race that the things you might have a stood against once, all are secondary to supporting a (half)black man
Darling, the only silly and racist comments here have been your sad, little attempts to stir water into a pile of dog poop long since dried out and forgotten.
Nobody, least of all the Mocha Messiah Himself, much cares how He’s referred to in casual conversation, given the desperation with which He and His Merry Band of Sycophants are no doubt approaching the coming Autumn.
“where was your outrage then? Where was the Tea Party then?”
What cave were you living? Conservatives were bitterly critical of Bush during his last several years over domestic policy. Even so, he wasn’t as bad as Obama, who is Bush plus Carter on steriods. That’s why we have a tea party movement now but not then.
But then it’s so easy to understand once you take off your ideological blinders.
where was all your noise when W was doing many of the things Obama is doing now? Bailing out the banks, running up the deficit, constricting civil rights during the “war on terror” – where was your outrage then? Where was the Tea Party then?
Check the archives on this blog. I was one of Bush’s harshest critics. (Here’s a thread from 2007 where I rip Bush and Republicans especially hard. #127 may be my Best Comment Evah!) Not for the paranoid moonbat crap you cite, but for his spending and failure to control the border (among other things). And Bush’s worst deficit with a Republican congress was not even a third the size of the Obama-Democrat deficits… so naturally, there is a higher level of criticism. I also, for the record, opposed the TARP bailout, as did most conservatives. It took a coalition of Democrats and moderates to pass it. Look it up.
I’m also the one who sarcastically refers to the loser of the 2008 election as “Landslide McCain.” As Dan, NDT, and others will vouchsafe. My record as a hard-eyed critic of both parties is beyond all questioning.
Your thesis that we would support nationalized health care, a supine posture in the war against Islamic Fascism, and epic deficits if a white socialist president pursued them is both asinine and preposterous.
How about:
The Transparent Messiah since you can see right through him.
Pity Phil’s mind is made up, and he refuses to be confused by the facts.
He actually seems a civil guy at times.
He actually seems a civil guy at times.
Like any progressive, he’s civil until you disagree with him or point out the errors in his argument. Then, he starts spewing about what a bigoted racist you are.
— ” 58.Pity Phil’s mind is made up, and he refuses to be confused by the facts.
He actually seems a civil guy at times.”
First of all, that’s a gracious comment, for THIS thread especially, and I appreciate it. Seriously.
But, implicit in that gracious comment is the idea that I have been uncivil in this thread. Please point out when I have been uncivil. Direct? Yes. Opinionated? Yes. Uncivil? Show me. And let me take a few minutes to recite the names I have been called so far in this thread alone.
“Sanctimonious prick.”
“oh-so-morally-superior troll, and a low-rent one at that.”
“sociopath”
“delusional”
“fuckwit”
“obnoxious twat”
“shitstain”
You’ll note that all of this 12-year-old schoolyard potty-mouthing comes from Eric Olsen, who still has not shown the courage to admit that his initial comment was racist. And he won’t. Because that would force him to admit that he was wrong and went too far and brought in a comment that was at least immaterial and, I contend, racist.
You want to take on Obama and his supporters? Wonderful. I support that. We need at least two parties, and there have been too many times in the last 30 years when it was difficult to tell if we even had two parties. But this racist crap stinks. It does dishonor to you and to the principles to which you claim to adhere.
And I am sick of the high road that the people in this site claim to take, the condescending tone of “we’re conservatives, and we argue on principles, and we’re above personal attacks.” And then someone comes along with a different point of view, and the Neanderthal hooting begins.
Someone here ought to have the courage to admit that “Mocha Messiah” is a silly racist comment.
So many posts here have pushed back, asked me about my thoughts about Obama and his successes or failures and whether there are prominent Democrats who are also racist. I have not responded, because I have not been willing to allow the point of my initial post to be lost. But, let me respond now, to some of the posts at least.
Did I vote for Obama? Yes. Do I regret the vote? No. I don’t think McCain would have done a better job with the economy, I really don’t. And I don’t think Bush would have done much different had he been allowed to serve a third term. Am I disappointed with Obama? Yes. He has fallen short of his rhetoric of being a uniter, and has spent too much time placating the far left wing of his party, which he owns in any event. Was Biden’s comment about Obama being – and I can’t quite remember at the moment exactly what Biden said, but we all know what I’m talking about, something about Obama being a clean black candidate – was that at least stupid and probably racist? Of course. Of course there are racists in the Democratic Party, because racism is a stubborn lingering mindset that insinuates itself across this country.
But you are all kidding yourselves if you think that race does not influence the discussions in the Republican Party also, and in the Tea Party movement as well. You think all of the racist feelings in this country just evaporated in the ten minutes after Obama took the oath of office?
Do I excuse Obama’s excesses because of his race? Absolutely not. He about killed himself to get elected, so he has to play with the big guys now. But, I am disappointed. Obama has curried favor with Pelosi, and he has turned into more of a typical liberal politician than I had hoped. My earnest hope is that he – like so many presidents – is growing into the job (and they all grow into the job, not even former vice presidents are quite prepared for the Oval Office, almost every president stumbles and fumbles in his first term, Lincoln damned near did not get re-elected).
I am willing to be civil, I am willing to bend. But, mocha messiah is silly racist bullshit. You all KNOW that it is. You all KNOW that the color of Obama’s skin is completely irrelevant to the question of how well he is doing his job, and to call attention to his color is to pander to the worst instincts in the American experience. So why don’t you admit that Eric Olsen went too far? Is it really that difficult?
First, let me respond to this comment:
58.Pity Phil’s mind is made up, and he refuses to be confused by the facts.
He actually seems a civil guy at times.
That’s one of the more gracious comments I’ve received here, and I appreciate it. Seriously.
However, I don’t think that I have been uncivil here. Let me recite the words that have been used to describe ME in this thread:
sanctimonious prick
oh-so-morally-superior troll, and a low-rent one at that
sociopath
delusional
fuckwit
shitstain
Note that all of these comments have been made by Eric Olsen, as he has fiercely attempted to avoid responsibility for making a silly, stupid, racist comment.
Come on. You all know that “mocha messiah” is silly racist crap. Such phrases dishonor the conservative movement and its members.
In your responses to my post, many of you have asked whether prominent Democrats have also said stupid, racist things. Of course they have. Biden’s comments about Obama were clumsy and inarticulate at best, and arguably reflected racist feelings (though obviously he and Obama kissed and made up, else Biden would not have gotten the VP nod). Had a prominent Republican said the same thing, he or she would have been loudly condemned. But, that has NOTHING to do with whether Eric Olsen went over the line.
Look, I voted for Obama, and I am disappointed. I think he has pandered to Pelosi and pandered to the left. I think his actions have snubbed his rhetoric. Do I think that McCain would have done better? No. Do I think that George W. Bush would have done much better had he been able to serve a third term? No. Do I think that there are racists in the Democratic Party? Yes. Do I think that there are racists in the Republican Party and in the Tea Party? Yes.
Deep, nasty, blood-red racism runs throughout the American experience, and the election of a black president will not enervate it. You are fooling yourselves if you think that the election of a black president wipes the slate clean, and you are letting down your own movement if you are unable or unwilling to police your own ranks and keep your own racists at bay.
Civil vs. broad brush painting leftest, Phil.
You latch on to one nickname (far more moderate, and accurate than, say, chimpymchilter) and decry everything as racist. Not surprisingly the reactions are hostile to say the least. The fact that you refuse to address honestly bigoted and racist statements from Democrats, up to and including the President and hang on the one comment is very telling in blind partisanship.
Now maybe it’s my lizard brain speaking, or maybe I’m not timely in my understanding of racism. After all, I’m just a mongrel with a lack of faith in the man you voted for.
apologies for the double post… the first one did not seem to “take,” and thinking I had just fat-fingered the button, I retyped it… and now of course wake up to find that the system seems to have burped overnight and posted both…
Guess I must be a racist, because I don’t see how a reference to Dear Reader’s skin color is necessarily inherently more offensive than remarking on John McCain’s age, Sarah “Caribou Barbie” Palin’s looks, Joe Biden’s hair plugs, or Charlie Crist’s sexuality.
Obama has dark skin, Phil. Deal with it.
Phil, I agree with you and I feel the intensity with which you care about racism.
You will agree, of course, that your statement and intensity applies equally to the liberals and Democrats.
Where we likely disagree is what constitutes racism.
Where are the examples of “deep, nasty, blood-red racism” today? We have every manner of law and Constitutional amendment to ferret it out.
Would you agree that incidents of “deep, nasty, blood-red racism” are extremely rare? So, shall we move on to something slightly less “deep, nasty and red-blooded” in talking about racism?
Michael Steele is certified black and is stumbling as the Republican National Chairman. May we replace him without it being a racist act? Now, suppose Michael Steele begins to flash the race card around. Suppose his supporters keep saying that the “deep, nasty, blood-red racists” in the party want to see him fail because he is black.
Michael Steele could do one of two things: 1) He could speak out loudly about being judged as a man and clearly call off the race card dogs, or; 2) He could ride the race card for all it is worth, while not overtly flashing it around himself.
If he were to take the second route, then he is calling attention to his race and inviting people to remember how the Amos ‘n’ Andy Taxi Company was run.
If people start calling him “Mocha” Michael it would simply be a reflection that he had (in my scenario) taken the reflexive race card route.
On the other hand, there is a vast left-wing political correctness police which will spring on assumed offenses like the proverbial flies on fecal matter. They are experts at pooh-poohing when the tables are turned on them and ready to fight to the end when they have leveled the charge on their chosen adversaries.
Obama has made himself a “race” example and proceeded as a new and wonderful President in no small part because of his race.
There is a charming and defining ring to the title: Mocha Messiah.
Perhaps you could come back with a clear statement about what exactly demeans Obama with the title.
Frankly, I think calling Obama the Messiah is far more bombastic than telling people which crayon you would choose to color him in.
Notice Phil’s intellectual dishonesty and slight of hand, “OK, so some Democrats have said things that are kind of racist, it doesn’t taint the entirety of the Democrat left.” Ah, but one mention of “Mocha Messiah” discredits everyone who believes in small government and fiscal conservatism as a racist.