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Has Nancy Pelosi Read the First Amendment?

The First Amendment to the Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The House Speaker has “called for an investigation of those who are protesting the building of the Ground Zero Mosque on Tuesday“:

There is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some. And I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded,” she said. “How is this being ginned up that here we are talking about Treasure Island, something we’ve been working on for decades, something of great interest to our community as we go forward to an election about the future of our country and two of the first three questions are about a zoning issue in New York City.

Now, an investigation of a political protest movement may pass constitutional muster, but it certainly smacks of authoritarianism.  An investigation does not mean she favors abridging freedom or speech or curtailing “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances” which is what opponents of the “Ground Zero Mosque” have been doing.  But, she sure doesn’t seem comfortable with it.

Why, may I ask, does she need to know how this is being “ginned up”?  Why can’t she just take issue with their arguments without casting aspersions at their motives?

Wonder if she also wants to investigate her Senate counterpart, Harry Reid who thinks the mosque should be built elsewhere?  Guess she’ll also be calling for an investigation of Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid, director of Al-Arabiya TV who wrote  that the “last thing Muslims want today is to build just a religious center out of defiance to the others, or a symbolic mosque that people visit as a museum next to a cemetery.

My sense is that an investigation will find that opposition to the mosque hasn’t been ginned up (as Mrs. Pelosi might put it) by some dark and sinister (in Pelosi speak, read conservative) forces, but is merely the grassroots opposition of a good number of Americans who don’t think it appropriate to build such a center so close to Ground Zero site, as Charles Krauthammer so eloquently put it, “of the greatest mass murder in American history — perpetrated by Muslims of a particular Islamist orthodoxy in whose cause they died and in whose name they killed.

It’s not just that, a number of opponents (of the mosque) have raised questions about its funding, the leader of the project, even the rationale behind its name.  Their opposition is not based on animosity against Islam per se, but based on serious questions about the project’s purpose.

UPDATE:  Mark Hemingway asks:

We still don’t know how the astoundingly expensive mosque itself is being financed, but we need to investigate the funding of an obviously grassroots campaign against it?

That does seem the more important investigation, no?

It is telling which side in this dispute Mrs. Pelosi seeks to investigate.

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  1. I’m sure she’s read it, but didn’t care for it.

    On another note, I’m sick of these lame-brained bastards who can’t come up with anything better than “Islamophobia”. There’s how many mosques in NYC? Especially when it’s the same POS’s that harbor a purple-plectic hatred for Christianity & Judaism. The same who ratchet up their panties when homes are built in Jerusalem.

    Sorry, clowns. Your credibility, if you had any, expired long ago.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 18, 2010 @ 7:10 am - August 18, 2010

  2. Their opposition is not based on animosity against Islam per se, but based on serious questions about the project’s purpose.

    No it’s not. There’s no reason to think the mosque will be anything other than what it’s purported to be.

    Comment by jpe — August 18, 2010 @ 7:32 am - August 18, 2010

  3. So, Nancy wants those who oppose the Ground Zero Touchdown Dance Mosque investigated, but has no interest in who is funding the mosque itself?

    This seems to be the standard Democrat modus operandus. On other occasions, when whistleblowers have released information damaging to the progressive agenda (like the East Anglia Climate emails), the knee-jerk reaction of the dramacrats was to demand that the whistleblowers be punished.

    And still no mosque supporter can answer the question, why did approval for the mosque sail through in a matter of week while the reconstruction of St. Nicholas Church (destroyed on 9-11) has been held up and blocked for over 8 years by the city bureaucracy? Why are Muslims getting preferential treatment?

    Comment by V the K — August 18, 2010 @ 7:45 am - August 18, 2010

  4. jpe,

    You mean besides the open support of Sharia, or support of defiance of international law, leading dead Israelies? Or maybe his inability to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization? Or his demanding others be tolerant to open dialogue, while he clearly isn’t? Or his refusal to relocate the mosque with state assistance?

    Other than that… no, there’s no reason at all to think it will be anything other than what he says it is.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 7:50 am - August 18, 2010

  5. One News Network is claiming that the Ground Zero Victory Mosque will be “a monument to terrorists.”

    FoxNews? Nope, Try Al Arabiya, a TV network based in the United Arab Emirates.

    Comment by V the K — August 18, 2010 @ 8:00 am - August 18, 2010

  6. Why can’t she jut take issue with their arguments without casting aspersions at their motives?

    Because she’s a progressive.

    Comment by V the K — August 18, 2010 @ 8:02 am - August 18, 2010

  7. [...] not others?” I guess that only the First Amendment rights of Muslims are sacred to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi — not the rights of the 65-70% of Americans who find placing a mosque [...]

    Pingback by Pelosi Calls for Investigation of Ground Zero Mosque Opposition | Liberty's Blog — August 18, 2010 @ 8:58 am - August 18, 2010

  8. Oh, you right wingnuts with your Constitution thingy. Give it a break, will ya? /snark off

    Comment by William Teach — August 18, 2010 @ 9:14 am - August 18, 2010

  9. I favor the opening of The Nick Berg Center for Fundamentalist Islam Understanding next to the mosque.

    It would have the Allahu Akbar lobby where tapes of 9/11, Nick Berg’s beheading, stonings, the Taliban follies and the like would play endlessly.

    Then you move on the Ayatollha Khomeini Room where you can read all the rules and regulations for sex with little girls and one night stand marriages.

    Finally, you would reach the Infidel Auditorium where you have a dialog with a Fatwah master scholar. However, you may not enter this sacred place if you are not Muslim.

    What we need is more dialog and understanding.

    Moderate Muslims everywhere want peace and harmony. They just don’t have the courage of their convictions and are scared stiff to go to Dearborn, Michigan and have an understanding dialog with the Sharia merchants of Islamic fundamentalism.

    Why doesn’t Nancy Pelosi have a Glenn Beck moment and call for buses filled with liberals to that grassy field in Pennsylvania and they can chat endlessly about whether the plane at the third site was carrying the 12th Imam. So much cathartic dialog would be good for these constipated religion remodelers.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 18, 2010 @ 9:48 am - August 18, 2010

  10. Why don’t we have an investigation of those that are overplaying the racist card, the X-phobia card, the bigot epithet, the hateful epithet?

    Sure there are creeps on both sides of issues but those are tiny minorities. The country hasn’t been more divided since the Vietnam war. Thanks, Obama the “unifier” for a culture of division.

    Comment by Former Liberal — August 18, 2010 @ 10:30 am - August 18, 2010

  11. Once more Nancy Pelosi demonstrates how she is an out-of-touch Socialist elitist snob looking down from her perch from some foggy mountain she wants to Olympus, but is really a really large garbage pile.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — August 18, 2010 @ 10:45 am - August 18, 2010

  12. To those against the Mosque, have YOU read it?

    Comment by Anonymous — August 18, 2010 @ 11:21 am - August 18, 2010

  13. Putting a mosque (mahjid) at Ground Zero would be like putting a synagogue next to the Reichstag while Hitler was in power.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 18, 2010 @ 11:22 am - August 18, 2010

  14. Wait so can someone clarify what a gay conservative is? A conservative that likes to admit their love for anal sex? We all know that if it wasn’t for the “leftist” gays, there would be no gaypatriot.net because right now, you would all be in the closet with 10 kids trying to prove you weren’t gay.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 18, 2010 @ 11:27 am - August 18, 2010

  15. Ash, Pelosi wants to stomp all over Americans’ Freedom of Speech with her witch hunt, but she claims Freedom of Religion for Islamic interlopers. Pelosi has lost her mind with her need for corrupt power for its own sake.

    The good thing about Pelosi’s witch hunt is it will just add gasoline to the NY mosque fire & it will backfire on her & any other Obama Democrat who stands with Obama on the subject, although he changed his opinion to present when confronted with his own statements for the backlash.

    Obama Democrats are bullies who are real cowards when the people stand up to them. They run away at the slightest hint of a backbone.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — August 18, 2010 @ 11:31 am - August 18, 2010

  16. Sebastian,

    That’s why Ash is an Obama democrat. He can’t defend a point on its merits, and resorts to inflamatory statements.

    That said, yes, Speaker Pelosi had better read the first, and understand why there’s a second.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 11:33 am - August 18, 2010

  17. Putting a mosque (mahjid) at Ground Zero would be like putting a synagogue next to the Reichstag while Hitler was in power.

    So, Obama is Hitler, and the American Government is the Third Reich. Thanks for clarifying.

    Comment by V the K — August 18, 2010 @ 11:35 am - August 18, 2010

  18. There is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some.

    Oh No!…. though it’s not like liberals have never done that before.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — August 18, 2010 @ 11:59 am - August 18, 2010

  19. We all know that if it wasn’t for the “leftist” gays, there would be no gaypatriot.net because right now, you would all be in the closet with 10 kids trying to prove you weren’t gay.

    Correction. You would be doing exactly that, and since you are that kind of a lying, cheating, sniveling weasel, you assume that everyone else is.

    Sort of like how Nancy Pelosi assumes that everyone else is receiving funding from nefarious and criminal sources because she does.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 18, 2010 @ 12:00 pm - August 18, 2010

  20. No, silly–Hitler wanted to blame the Jews for things they hadn’t done. If Jews had put a synagogue next to the Reichstag, he would have called it, oh, I don’t know, “a monument to terrorists” maybe.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 18, 2010 @ 12:50 pm - August 18, 2010

  21. Wow, I take it back,

    Ash is an anti-semite and a fool.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 1:05 pm - August 18, 2010

  22. No, silly–Hitler wanted to blame the Jews for things they hadn’t done. If Jews had put a synagogue next to the Reichstag, he would have called it, oh, I don’t know, “a monument to terrorists” maybe.

    You know, Ash, your analogy would be much less moronic if the group you have cast in the “Jew” role really were innocent folks who had done nothing wrong, but were being looked at as terrorist. But this isn’t Germany, and Jews didn’t fly 2 planes into the Reichstag & kill nearly 3,000 Germans. Nope, that was in America and the people that perpetrated that act were fundamentalist islamic TERRORISTS.

    So, what you should have said was that building this monument to islam at Ground Zero would be like Skinheads building a monument to Hiltler right in the middle of Auschwitz. of course, I’m sure you’d think that was ok too.

    Comment by Kristie — August 18, 2010 @ 1:56 pm - August 18, 2010

  23. 1.) Local zoning rules apply, but if a religious group is permitted to build near Ground Zero, then there is no reason why a Mosque should be denied.

    2.) If building a Mosque is an “in your face” move, then I see no reason why people should be coy about expressing their disapproval.

    3.) So, if the Muslims insist on pushing themselves in and others make it clear their Mosque is not wanted, what is the issue?

    4.) Obviously, the Mosque will prevail and life will go on. Somehow, I do not think Pelosi will trade her Roman Catholic relativism for a burka and a back seat as an inferior Muslim woman. Nor will the Mosque be an effective outreach facility to the non-Muslim world. I do not expect to see any “Ground Zero Mosque” T-shirts.

    5.) It is nice to see the libs trying to use the Constitution. Their hypocrisy
    knows no bounds. Next thing you know, the libs will try to convince us that the sheeple can think for themselves on rare occasions.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 18, 2010 @ 2:45 pm - August 18, 2010

  24. Nancy Pelosi needs to read the Constitution before she goes back to the House of Representatives in Washington DC. She knows zilch. Most windbags know zilch better than true matters at hand. Oh, politics can count as zilch too. Maybe that is what is causing her skin to sag, despite the botox: Zilch.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — August 18, 2010 @ 3:01 pm - August 18, 2010

  25. Somehow, I do not think Pelosi will trade her Roman Catholic relativism for a burka and a back seat as an inferior Muslim woman.

    Didn’t she do that in Syria?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 18, 2010 @ 4:13 pm - August 18, 2010

  26. Granny Botox sez:

    “The freedom of religion is a Constitutional right. Where a place of worship is located is a local decision.”

    But 9/11 was a national issue. Further, the freedom of speech doesn’t have physical boundaries. This is little different than the “Chicken-hawk” smear.

    Then she sez:

    “For all of those expressing concern about the 9/11 families, we call upon them to join us in support of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act when Congress returns in September.”

    Ignore this and turn your attention to this legislative issue Dear Chairman is getting slammed for.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 18, 2010 @ 4:25 pm - August 18, 2010

  27. Far from being an anti-Semite, I am saying that conservatives treat Muslims the way the Nazis treated the Jews–by making them the scapegoat for things they didn’t do. For those of you with no moral compass–Nazis, bad. Jews, good.

    American Muslims, like those American Muslims who died on 9/11, or those American Muslims who are buried at Arlington, did not fly planes into the Two Towers. No American Muslims were involved, and they should not be scapegoated for something they didn’t do.

    Gays did not create AIDS and intentionally spread it, either, but conservatives called for their quarantine. I’m not sure why gays are not more sensitive when a minority is being unjustly accused of something they didn’t do.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 18, 2010 @ 4:45 pm - August 18, 2010

  28. Nancy Pelosi reads the Constitution every day. She has it printed on her toilet paper.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 5:14 pm - August 18, 2010

  29. conservatives treat Muslims the way the Nazis treated the Jews

    Shame on you Ash.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 5:17 pm - August 18, 2010

  30. Shame on you, American Elephant–explain to me the difference in treatment. We are scapegoating American Muslims for things they didn’t do and dishonoring the memory of American Muslims who died on 911 and who are buried at Arlington–SHAME ON YOU!!!

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 18, 2010 @ 5:50 pm - August 18, 2010

  31. aww look, Ash is reduced to a tempertantrum. Someone get him a pacifier.

    We’ve laid out the questionable statements of the iman behind it. We’ve laid out his endorcement of Sharia law. So Ash, since he can’t refute the facts, tries to say we’re smearing all Muslims. Too bad that as much as he whines, reality is different.

    So he goes back to that leftest cannard. “Blame the Jews!”

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 5:53 pm - August 18, 2010

  32. Shame on you, American Elephant–explain to me the difference in treatment

    Um, Nazis isolated Jews in ghettos, stripped them of all rights, all property, then shipped them off in cattle cars to concentration camps where they were starved, tortured, experimented on, gassed and thrown into mass graves like garbage for starters.

    Conservatives, on the other hand, have done nothing but voice the opinion that a proposed mosque is in extremely poor taste.

    I know the difference is bu a slight nuance, but surely even you can grasp it.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 6:00 pm - August 18, 2010

  33. check that, its not just conservatives, its two-thirds of New Yorkers and the vast majority of Americans.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 6:02 pm - August 18, 2010

  34. If the Daughters of the Confederacy wanted to build a Confederate History Museum next to the place where MLK was shot, people would say, “No, that’s not appropriate.” If the National Guard wanted to put up a monument to itself at Kent State University, people would say, “No that’s not appropriate,” even though the National Guard and the DAR are honorable. (And being honorable people, neither group would even propose such a thing.)

    So, what Ash and the rest of the progressive left is really whining about is that American Muslims are being treated exactly like any other group of people would be… instead of being given special preference.

    Comment by V the K — August 18, 2010 @ 7:06 pm - August 18, 2010

  35. What I don’t understand is why Kelo doesn’t apply in this instance. We were taught that the government can take property even for private initiatives. Can the government take the mosque property and build the gay bar on it? There would seem to be legal precedent.

    Comment by Louise B — August 18, 2010 @ 7:52 pm - August 18, 2010

  36. Louise,

    We don’t want to use bad precedent, even if it works for Liberals.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 8:44 pm - August 18, 2010

  37. I’m not sure how I’m “blaming the Jews.” In fact, I am using the Jews as an example of a group that was mistreated and blamed for things they didn’t do.

    No one has answered my point about the Muslim Americans who died on 9/11 and the Muslim Americans who died for our country and how this attitude toward the mosque dishonors their memory–which, really, is about the most shameful thing an American can do.

    Waiting for a response. (crickets)

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 18, 2010 @ 8:59 pm - August 18, 2010

  38. Here’s what I don’t get….apparently Patterson is offering the mosque builders government land in another location as an alternative….I dont get how that passes Constitutional muster.

    And regarding Kelo, I know its totally unrelated but the state of Utah has taken the AWESOME step of using imminent domain to take land from the federal government. Not that it has anything to do with anything, or is even current, but its so awesome that it makes me laugh out loud every time I remember it. Poetic justice.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 9:04 pm - August 18, 2010

  39. The answer to your question Ash, is that we are capable of differentiating between the Muslims who are proposing this mosque, and ALL Muslims, while you, and the left are apparently only capable of seeing all Muslims as homogeneous.

    And your point is illogical. No one, not even the builders of the mosque have suggested it is being built in honor of anyone who died on 9/11. Its being built, as several prominent MUSLIMS have publicly written, as a slap in the face to America and to celebrate the defeat by radical Islamists over America.

    Comment by American Elephant — August 18, 2010 @ 9:13 pm - August 18, 2010

  40. Because you don’t have a point. NDT and I demolished you with facts, and you reply with hyperbole and temper-tantrums.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 18, 2010 @ 9:14 pm - August 18, 2010

  41. You have not explained how your attitude toward this mosque does not dishonor the memory of American Muslims who died for religious freedom for all Americans.

    In fact, all American soldiers have died so that all Americans have freedom of religion. Your attitude dishonors their sacrifice.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 19, 2010 @ 1:10 am - August 19, 2010

  42. It was explained to you, Ash. Multiple times. You’re just too thick to get it.

    But you can’t seem to explain why the Muslims who want to build a mosque at Ground Zero Victory Mosque should be given special preference over other Americans, like the Greek Orthodox who still have not been allowed to rebuild their church, which was destroyed in the 9-11-2001 attacks after eight years of fighting the city and state bureaucracy; while the approval for the GZVM sailed through in weeks.

    If the mosque guys really want to build bridges, than they should respect the feelings of other Americans and move their project elsewhere. Why does respect have to be a one-way street when it comes to Muslims? Answer me that.

    Comment by V the K — August 19, 2010 @ 5:30 am - August 19, 2010

  43. I don’t see the explanation you refer to. Nothing here directly addresses the sacrifice Muslim American soldiers have made for our country.

    Certainly, I as an American support the Greek Orthodox if they want to build a church anywhere. I believe I supported the rights of Lutherans and Wiccans as examples in an earlier post.

    Rosa Parks should have respected the feelings of all those on the bus and simply sat in the back. According to you.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 19, 2010 @ 12:52 pm - August 19, 2010

  44. And Ash’s true colours show. He’s perfectly willing to let the victory mosque be built with money from Iran.

    Shame on you Ash, to support the efforts of a country that has killed our brave boys resting in Arlington. Shame on you. You’d demand that Israel build a monument to Imadinnerjacket out of bricks from the Western Wall.

    Shame on you for supporting a mosque that is funded by those who cheered the dead Americans, no matter their religious belief.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 19, 2010 @ 1:56 pm - August 19, 2010

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