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In coming out, Ken Mehlman will find more support on the right than on the left

From various sources, I have learned that the reaction on most gay left blogs to the revelation of Ken Mehlman’s coming out has been as vitriolic as we could have anticipated.  I really have no interest in addressing their comments directly because it’s not worth my time to engage those who, to paraphrase Albert Camus, cannot be persuaded.

They simply believe that when working for W and helming the RNC, Mehlman was not just closeted, but also fully aware of the meaning of his feelings for men.  It’s easier for them and fits their narrative, that gay conservatives are all self-loathing.  They would rather attack the demon of their imagination than understand the individual who stands before them.

They fail to appreciate that gay conservatives are just like many of them — and often have had to struggle to come to terms with their emotional and sexual attraction to individuals of their own sex.  For some of us, it takes longer than others.  For Ken Mehlman, it apparently took 43 years.

Mehlman says he wasn’t aware of  (perhaps, it might be more accurate to say, hadn’t fully dealt with) his sexuality when he worked for the 2004 Bush campaign and chaired the RNC:

Mehlman acknowledges that if he had publicly declared his sexuality sooner, he might have played a role in keeping the party from pushing an anti-gay agenda.

“It’s a legitimate question and one I understand,” Mehlman said. “I can’t change the fact that I wasn’t in this place personally when I was in politics, and I genuinely regret that. It was very hard, personally.” He asks of those who doubt his sincerity: “If they can’t offer support, at least offer understanding.”

I believe him.  I remember what it’s like “not to be in that place personally.”  Don’t they?  Why do they refuse to take him at his word?  It must be that (R) after his name.  Or his association with the nefarious Bush regime and its chief henchman, Boba Rove.

I highly doubt Mehlman said the party was pushing an “anti-gay agenda” in 2004.  Because it wasn’t.  To be sure, the then-president came out in support of the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA) which was indeed wrong-headed, but hardly anti-gay.  Perhaps, Mehlman had meant that had he been where he is now, he could have lobbied the Administration not to make a federal case out of gay marriage (as it should not have done).

Mehlman should have realized that he would have been better served by conducting his coming-out interview not with a left-of-center blogger, but instead with a conservative or libertarian one.

That said, for all the bile he’s getting now from the left, I would bet good money that many of his former White House and GOP colleagues have been contacting him privately to offer their support.  They will let him know that this revelation will not affect their relationship.  Few, if any, will cut him off.

Telling that in reporting on Mehlman’s coming out for the New York Times, Michael Luo points out that when “Mr. Mehlman revealed his sexual orientation” to “Ed Gillespie, another former Republican chairman”, this did not change the latter’s “personal opposition to same-sex marriage”, but doesn’t mention that it probably also didn’t change his friendship with Mehlman either.  Had he done so, he might present Times‘ readers with a more accurate picture of conservative attitudes toward gay people.

As I’ve learned on numerous occasions, people can both like an individual gay person and oppose gay marriage.

It is the most politicized gay activists — and their allies in the gay community and on the left — with whom he’s going to have the most trouble.  And that will be the subject of my next post.

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48 Comments

  1. Republican self-loather actively working against the rights of gay people.

    Anyone that says Republicans are the friend of gay people is either a liar or insane.

    Comment by David — August 26, 2010 @ 4:04 am - August 26, 2010

  2. David, thank you so much for helping make my point.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — August 26, 2010 @ 4:14 am - August 26, 2010

  3. [...] In coming out, Ken Mehlman will find more support on the right than on the left [...]

    Pingback by GayPatriot » W: “Incredibly Supportive” when learning Mehlman was gay — August 26, 2010 @ 4:26 am - August 26, 2010

  4. He shut up about equality when it really mattered and never in his life contributed to a politician who tried to pass marriage equality. And now he supports a lawsuit against Prop 8 when the GOP says it’s the people’s will. Come on, square that circle for me.

    Comment by Chris — August 26, 2010 @ 6:31 am - August 26, 2010

  5. I know Chris, it’s hard to understand.

    Someone who doesn’t move in lockstep with a political or social identity? Horrible!

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 26, 2010 @ 6:57 am - August 26, 2010

  6. The Left won’t lift a finger or a single voice in criticism of AN ENTIRE political party that has faked its “support” for gays for decades, having never produced and passed the first REAL, effective legislation specifically benefitting gays…when it has held majorities in Congress several times AND the White House together, AT LEAST TWICE.
    But, here, in what is arguably the most difficult, most rending, most vulnerable and dangerous act in a gay man’s personal life, coming out… in arguably the most damning of environments: enveloping his personal, political, emotional and occupational lives simultaneously… and they offer not one ounce of support. It f*cking disgusts me.
    And the calls for him to have used his position to this, to do that…I call BULLSH*T!
    The Left is synonymous with ‘group think’ and ‘victimhood’…that an individual is weak, helpless and hopeless without some self-appointed group (Dems) swooping in to represent and empower them in their lifetime of disenfranchisement….but not THIS man! NOOOOOOOOOO, he should have, upon birth, drawn himself up by his bootstraps and marched into that RNC as its head and immediately clapped his hands together, changing the world and empowering every sniveling, poison-spitting, hateful lefty fag on the planet.
    I came to deal with my homosexuality later in life as well and it SICKENS me that others demand understanding, command accolades and commandeer the spotlight for their own stories of some sordid gh-visiting, drug-induced catharsis and epiphany, yet singularly deny another scensient person, a “brother” if you will, that same MINIMAL courtesy.

    Comment by rodney — August 26, 2010 @ 7:00 am - August 26, 2010

  7. To me, the epitome of self-loathing is someone who signs up with the socialist left for the sake of a pat on the head. You have to truly loathe yourself to decide that you can’t trust yourself with freedom and responsibility, and you’d rather have a big old nanny state to take make all of your choices for you.

    Comment by V the K — August 26, 2010 @ 7:37 am - August 26, 2010

  8. Amen to VtheK. You nailed it! And that should be said for anyone that wants to be a “ward” of the state instead of a grown up individual living freely your life however you so desire.

    Comment by Linda Strickland — August 26, 2010 @ 8:46 am - August 26, 2010

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  10. Since you’re spilling all kinds of personal secrets, Ken, dear, pray confess how Jeff Gannon, a gay porn star turned hardcore right-wing ideologue, manage to work himself into the White House press corps? Was it, like Vanity Fair & others have said, because he was fucking a very powerful White House insider? Was it you, you treacherous tool? Amazing how y’all Republican psychos “find your true self” and admit what everyone already knows ONLY after you’ve left your position of influence, instead of back when you could have made a huge difference while still in power. Now that no one cares a flying shitball about you and you’re just dying to get that same attention you once had, you find a way to soothe your guilty conscience & come out simultaneously. Fuck you, your former bosses & your disgusting actions (funding anti-gay attacks in every Red State as well as nationally.) It would be one thing if you were a closeted Republican who didn’t open his whore mouth about gays like yourself and simply lived a quite life within your Party but you attacked your own every chance you got to help elect people who hated you and others like you. For what? Money? Power? There is no difference between you and the Jews who cooperated with the Nazis in WWII. Burn in hell bitch!!

    Comment by steve — August 26, 2010 @ 9:19 am - August 26, 2010

  11. I get the feeling that many conservatives feel that we should just throw the scriptures out the window that say homosexuality is not smiled upon by God. We KNOW that liberals have always felt like that but now many conservatives are agreeing with that position. Well I say Go against what God wants at your own peril. He made the rules and whether you like them or not, He’s the Boss…..the scriptural term is Lord.

    Comment by David Boothby — August 26, 2010 @ 9:38 am - August 26, 2010

  12. Well said, Rodney…well said indeed.

    Comment by Larry — August 26, 2010 @ 11:29 am - August 26, 2010

  13. And it takes even more self-loathing to bitch and moan about your “rights” while supporting Islamo-fascists.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 26, 2010 @ 12:05 pm - August 26, 2010

  14. Comments below the AP article on Yahoo Mehlman from the left are having a field day. One called him a poster boy for Republican hypocrisy. Another wrote that Republicans hide their homosexuality by supporting conservative Christians and anti-gay groups. I´ll bet gay left blogs will make much of W being very supportive considering he wanted to have a constitutional amendment to define marriage.

    Comment by Roberto — August 26, 2010 @ 12:09 pm - August 26, 2010

  15. I wonder how many closeted Democrats have came out and whether it mattered in a negative way. I do notice some gay baiting in the elections by Democrats. I’m still waiting for Obama to come out as a Muslim (sarcasm).

    Comment by anon23532 — August 26, 2010 @ 12:21 pm - August 26, 2010

  16. Although I am a foreigner I felt the need to weigh in on this only because there appears to be some dishonesty here.

    Although Mr. Mehlman did finally acknowledge his homosexuality and yes, he did admit to his culpability in demonization homosexuals throughout his tenure, it has to be said that the response by some in the community is not entriely unreasonable.

    It is true the Mr. Mehlman may have had issues with his coming out but, and let’s be honest here, he was still an adult. He knew what he was doing was wrong yet chose to stay the course. To deny this is to be not only blinded by political affiliation but also to be willfully ignorant for the sake of expidiency.

    Forgiveness can and will come but only when Mr. Mehlman offers true atonement for his actions. Justice, it is said, must have compassion but there must also be a sense of retribution, if only tempered, so as to be fully attained.

    My Respects

    J. Deschamps
    CAF Ret.

    Comment by Jon in Canada — August 26, 2010 @ 12:32 pm - August 26, 2010

  17. That’s right, steve! Show the world what hateful, violent bigots gay and lesbian people are. It just continues to put the LIE to your statements and whines about “tolerance’a dn “equality”.

    Throw out more hate speech, Steve. After all, on your blogs like JoeMyGod, people are screaming for Mehlman to be physically hurt and demanding that he commit suicide. Show the world how gays and lesbians like yourself are violent, totalitarian bigots who whine about namecalling, harassment, driving people to suicide, and physical violence even as you practice it yourself.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 26, 2010 @ 12:45 pm - August 26, 2010

  18. Wastes of human space like this creep should do us all a favor, gays and conservatives alike, and just go blow his brains out and take Roy Ashburn and Larry Craig with him. I bet more than one person has killed him/herself over the behavior of these people.

    Comment by steve — August 26, 2010 @ 12:50 pm - August 26, 2010

  19. I bet more than one person has killed him/herself over the behavior of these people.

    And thousands more have died of AIDS because they followed the gay left’s attitudes of “sexual freedom and liberation”.

    Comment by NYAlly — August 26, 2010 @ 12:54 pm - August 26, 2010

  20. Joe, just curious here…

    What ‘actions’ did he commit to require ‘pennance’? Is Ghost Rider going to hunt him down?

    Supporting DOMA? A number of conservatives (myself included) saw/see DOMA and their ilk as a defensive action, to prevent the courts from engaging in the very kind of malfaence as Judge Walker engaged in.

    Demonization? As NDT and his ample links show, the ‘community’ does that just fine.

    Fortunately, he doesn’t need your approval or your cries for penance. He has his friends standing beside himm, offering support.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 26, 2010 @ 12:55 pm - August 26, 2010

  21. They fail to appreciate that gay conservatives are just like many of them — and often have had to struggle to come to terms with their emotional and sexual attraction to individuals of their own sex. For some of us, it takes longer than others. For Ken Mehlman, it apparently took 43 years.

    I’m sorry, but no. Not in the United States since 1990 (when Ken Mehlman would have been 23).

    There might be … ahem … good (or even not-so-good) reasons to stay in the closet until your 40s. But those reasons will have nothing to do with “coming to terms with” same-sex attraction. The male body is rather eloquent. There is no way, to cite Ambinder, he could have “arrived at this conclusion about his identity fairly recently.” He’s known about “that” (to use the name I initially gave it as a teenager) at some level or another, for 25 years at least.

    Comment by CourageMan — August 26, 2010 @ 1:42 pm - August 26, 2010

  22. WOW! I’m impressed you know so well the intimate, intrinsic workings of another human’s mind, emotions, mentality and soul!
    Courageman…
    1. May I have the winning PowerBall lottery numbers, please?
    2. Could you help me understand women better? {alluding to my very own bisexuality at my very own peril}
    3. The DoD is also interested in your telling them where Osama is, as well as, if you don’t mind…via your ‘Courageman Mind Meld’… how the whale in “Free Willie” feels about his 5-year freedom now.
    Thank you so very much
    {{but I guess you knew I was going to say that}}

    Comment by rodney — August 26, 2010 @ 2:27 pm - August 26, 2010

  23. Let us notes steve’s (#18) tolerance of others:

    Wastes of human space like this creep should do us all a favor, gays and conservatives alike, and just go blow his brains out

    Next time someone comments on this Blog how the Left is compassionate and good, just cite steve and this quote.

    And me, I don’t give a damn if Mehlman is straight or gay, live and let live.

    I voted against Prop 8, but everytime steve opens his mouth, I keep on doubting that was the right decision.

    Comment by JSF — August 26, 2010 @ 2:46 pm - August 26, 2010

  24. WOW! I’m impressed you know so well the intimate, intrinsic workings of another human’s mind, emotions, mentality and soul!

    You really think saying a 43-year-old man has known for decades what gives him a boner is really at the level of the superhuman powers you seem to think I’m claiming.?

    Comment by CourageMan — August 26, 2010 @ 2:47 pm - August 26, 2010

  25. Oh … and rodney also leaves out the part where I say I can think of all sorts of reasons to stay closeted in your 40s. I was responding to a very specific thing Mehlman said and that GayPatriotWest seemed to endorse (and which I find unbelievable) — that he could have “arrived at this conclusion about his identity fairly recently.”

    Comment by CourageMan — August 26, 2010 @ 2:51 pm - August 26, 2010

  26. I have a lot of respect for Mehlman since he is being honest of how wrong the GOP was during 2004 (and why Log Cabin refuse to endorse Obama lite aka George W Bush.) and how wrong most of the GOP Brass is concerning the rights and liberties of gay Americans.

    Which is more than I can say for the “patriots” of this site.

    Comment by JS — August 26, 2010 @ 4:30 pm - August 26, 2010

  27. If, JS. you have such little respect for us, why do you spend so much time here?

    And please tell me how the GOP brass is so “wrong” about the liberties of gay Americans. Thanks.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — August 26, 2010 @ 4:38 pm - August 26, 2010

  28. Jeff Gannon ….. gay porn star ….. hardcore right-wing ideologue …. White House press corps ….. fucking ….. powerful White House insider….. you treacherous tool ….. Republican psychos …. no one cares a flying shitball about you ….. soothe your guilty conscience ….. come out simultaneously ….. Fuck you, your former bosses ….. your disgusting actions ….. open ….. whore mouth ….. attacked your own ….. elect people who hated you ….. no difference between you and …. Jews ….. cooperated ….. Nazis in WWII ….. Burn in hell bitch!!

    Gee, steve sure has a lot on his alleged mind.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 26, 2010 @ 4:39 pm - August 26, 2010

  29. Gay Republicans are self-loathing because Republicans work against gay rights (civil rights) for example, calling a hate crime against gays a hate crime.

    How can a gay person or ANY human being be against calling a hate crime against gays a hate crime?

    Tell me B. Daniel Blatt why you’re against calling a hate crime against gays a gay hate crime, thanks.

    Comment by David — August 26, 2010 @ 4:52 pm - August 26, 2010

  30. How can a gay person or ANY human being be against calling a hate crime against gays a hate crime?

    Because, David, we have seen steve’s words above, which are typical of Obama Party and liberal gay and lesbian people:

    Wastes of human space like this creep should do us all a favor, gays and conservatives alike, and just go blow his brains out

    and have figured out that you in fact support violence, hate speech, and actions against gays and lesbians who don’t obey you politically.

    So really, you don’t oppose “hate crimes”. In fact, as we see from the death threats and vandalism against churches that you and your fellow Prop 8 opponents in Fresno carried out, you fully and completely endorse and support such crimes.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 26, 2010 @ 5:36 pm - August 26, 2010

  31. As a younger person (29), I find it entirely legitimate to criticize people who needed 43 years to figure out their sexuality. I don’t want someone like that–so confused an unsure of himself–to be in a powerful position like Mehlman had. So either he’s so emotionally incapable that I certainly don’t want him in the White House, or he was a self-loathing, closeted, conservative homosexual. Take your pick. Bottom line: it’s not OK to be confused about your sexuality into your 40s; it’s either sad or dishonest. If he was legitimately confused and not a lying self-loather, that is a sign of emotional maladjustment… that maladjustment may be the result of Mehlman’s terrible homophobic environment, but it is maladjustment all the same. “I remember what it’s like “not to be in that place personally.” Don’t they?” Yeah, I do. I was 18.

    Comment by Anon — August 26, 2010 @ 7:17 pm - August 26, 2010

  32. steve – WTF? You must be one miserable piece of work. Sad, really.

    I can relate to Mehlman’s travels… I was nearly 40 when I accepted the fact that I was gay. Until that time, I had no appreciation for the power of the mind to deny what, in hindsight, should have been obvious.

    Certainly there was the hope that, someday, I would meet the right woman and then things would finally be OK. And there was fear of rejection and a life spent as some sort of freak.

    My exposure to gay men was, like many people, limited to freakish images from “pride” marches, San Francisco, and shrieking queens screaming at Catholics. I knew that there was no way I could fit into that culture – just too weird.

    And rejection… as it turned out, my family was totally accepting. I’m now in a relationship (coming up on ten years) with a great guy who’s considered part of the family.

    I know there are people for whom “coming out” is a terrible experience. These people need support and encouragement… not bilious drivel from gays who think that anyone who doesn’t know from the get-go that they’re gay must be some sort of self-hating Nazi.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — August 26, 2010 @ 7:30 pm - August 26, 2010

  33. #31: Thanks, anon, for making my point. How is it that liberals, famous for compassion and understanding, are such hard-asses?

    Comment by SoCalRobert — August 26, 2010 @ 7:33 pm - August 26, 2010

  34. it’s not OK to be confused about your sexuality into your 40s; it’s either sad or dishonest.

    That’s a very narrow-minded viewpoint. Some folks believe sexuality isn’t necessarily constant, but can change along a continuum for an individual throughout his life. I think it’s very oppressive to say people are only allowed to have one set sexual orientation for life.

    Comment by V the K — August 26, 2010 @ 7:57 pm - August 26, 2010

  35. #32 SoCalRobert: I suspect that your thoughtful, reasoned and sensitive remarks are just so much kittly litter for the freak gays. One comment up, Anon (#31) disgorges this:

    criticize people …. need …. 43 years ….. figure out their sexuality….. confused …. unsure of himself ….. so emotionally incapable ….. or ….. self-loathing, closeted, conservative homosexual …… not OK to be confused about your sexuality into your 40s ….. sad or dishonest. If he ….. legitimately confused ….. or ….. not a lying self-loather ….. emotional maladjustment ..… terrible homophobic environment

    These people loathe folks who are not just like them. What do you call a homosexual who is homophobic toward gay conservatives? Homohomoloathers?

    Comment by heliotrope — August 26, 2010 @ 7:58 pm - August 26, 2010

  36. Does anyone else find it funny that our new crop of trolls prove Dan right with every post?

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 26, 2010 @ 8:41 pm - August 26, 2010

  37. How is it that liberals, famous for compassion and understanding, are such hard-asses?

    Because, SoCalRobert, liberals are what Ayn Rand famously described as “moochers”.

    Their goal is to punish anyone who is more well-off than they are.

    Their method is to use false guilt and pretend “compassion”.

    The easy way to expose and get rid of them is to present them with a problem and tell them they have to use their own money to fix it.

    They’ll come up with all sorts of uncompassionate reasons why not to do it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 26, 2010 @ 9:34 pm - August 26, 2010

  38. Who are we to carp about how long or even how someone comes to terms with their sexuality. I just hope he is happy and can find love in his life.

    Comment by Heather — August 27, 2010 @ 1:52 am - August 27, 2010

  39. Blatt, you are just as sick and twisted as Mehlman. Mehlman has real blood on his hands for the many kids who took their own lives trying to deal with coming out and the hate of those he supported during his (terror) reign of the Bush cabal.

    Mehlmans take on “I can’t change the fact that I wasn’t in this place personally when I was in politics, and I genuinely regret that. It was very hard, personally.” … is like saying that a Jew pretending to be German and watch the killing of innocent Jews because he ‘wasn’t in the place to accept himself?

    Gay Patriot? What a joke you both are.

    Comment by David — August 27, 2010 @ 2:04 am - August 27, 2010

  40. If, JS. you have such little respect for us, why do you spend so much time here?

    Which further proves how much Dan lives in a bubble and thinks he is immune from criticism.

    BTW I have to say I really feel sympathetic towards Mehlman, not only does he have to deal with crazy libs but also with so called “compassionate conservatives.”

    And please tell me how the GOP brass is so “wrong” about the liberties of gay Americans. Thanks.

    Because they believe that it is okay to execute homosexuals.

    Comment by JS — August 27, 2010 @ 6:53 am - August 27, 2010

  41. #38

    Agreed Heather. He has an uphill battle, but hopefully he’ll find happiness and peace.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 27, 2010 @ 6:54 am - August 27, 2010

  42. So, according to JS, a punk-rock-gospel singer in Minnesota speaks and sets policy for the GOP everywhere?

    Dumb troll.

    Comment by V the K — August 27, 2010 @ 7:18 am - August 27, 2010

  43. It’s not like that evil Governor who says that not supporting the people’s car is unpatriotic.

    Or maybe you’d prefer to look at the President’s former advisor. You know, the admittted communist and truther, Van Jones?

    Or maybe an organization that engages in lies and slander?

    But no, the best you can do is provide a ‘punk rocker’. I’ll see your punk rocker and raise you terrorists, truthers and Maoists in the administration and their friends.

    Do you look this silly naturally? Or does it come with practice?

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 27, 2010 @ 8:04 am - August 27, 2010

  44. So, according to JS, a punk-rock-gospel singer in Minnesota speaks and sets policy for the GOP everywhere?

    No, but he represents a base that keeps pushing for such a thing.

    But it is typical of you to be seriously naive about all of this. There are many gay republicans that say that the party needs to change regarding this issue, but most of you, Gay Patriots, don’t think there is a problem. Weird.

    Dumb troll.

    LOL I been called worst by libs. I thought you people can do better than that. But what else you can expect from an intelligent group of “tolerant” patriots. LOL. Good laughs though.

    They would rather attack the demon of their imagination than understand the individual who stands before them.
    -B. Daniel Blatt

    So true Dan, so true in deed. LOL.

    Comment by JS — August 27, 2010 @ 3:55 pm - August 27, 2010

  45. All right; let’s take a look at the Obama Party base, shall we?

    And how about the behavior of typical Obama supporters and voters?

    San Francisco police are investigating the beating of a gay man on the city’s Muni transit system that occurred last weekend.

    Zachary Davenport, 26, received a black eye and a minor head injury in the incident, which started around 12:25 a.m. Saturday, August 14, as he was riding the J Church line toward his Castro area home.

    And of course, we know they were Obama supporters because of this:

    Davenport, who was taken to a nearby hospital and treated and released, estimated there were 20 people in the group, which included men and women. He said their races and ethnicities appeared to include Latino, African American, and Chinese or Japanese.

    Because all minorities have to be Obama supporters, right? Didn’t Harry Reid say that no minority member could possibly be anything but an Obama supporter?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 27, 2010 @ 6:44 pm - August 27, 2010

  46. So here we have a fine example of JS screaming about how Republicans all want to kill gays while doing his best to spin and ignore about how his own Obama Party base, minorities and young people, are actively attacking and hurting gay people.

    Now let’s watch JS spin and state that the gay person cited who was beaten up by African-Americans deserves it because he is white.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 27, 2010 @ 6:51 pm - August 27, 2010

  47. I’m just shocked the Democratic Party is viewed as pro-gay. Piddling favors do not compensate for what is very much bipartisan bigotry. Gay marriage has been opposed by Democrats as well as Republicans.

    How are Democrats at all “the party of minorities”? Can anyone honestly say that blacks have *benefitted* from the Democrats? I seem to remember most true successes were broadly supported; e.g. Alan Greenspan once told Congress he would root every bit of racism out of the financial system, even if Congress repealed the CRA; welfare reform was very much a centrist, bipartisan victory, as was No Child Left Behind (which, for all its horrible flaws, does have specific provisions for minority education that were at least somewhat effective).

    Most people do not live in ideological abstractions, nor do they fit into convenient “bigoted: right, tolerant: left” categories. The Platonic Fallacy does not rule our lives, and we don’t accept the view that we *must* adhere to ideological doctrine *or else*.

    Whatever happened to separation of church and state?

    Comment by joeedh — August 28, 2010 @ 5:15 pm - August 28, 2010

  48. NDT, note how he tries to argue the TX platform is apparently going to lead to the ‘killing of homosexuals’ even though it says nothing of the sort.

    Using his arguments I’ll argue that the Democrats want to kill anyone they deem ‘inconvienent’ since they support the slaughter of the unborn.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 30, 2010 @ 2:31 pm - August 30, 2010

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