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Progressive Protestor Discloses The True Goals of “Social Justice”

Ben Howe confronts a Progressive protesting the “Restoring Honor” rally yesterday.  Funny how the event was at the Lincoln Memorial…. but the misguided protestor was lamely hanging out by himself at the Washington Monument.  Heh.

This  is three minutes of pure fun as Ben rips this guy apart and demonstrates the sheer lack of principles of the Progressive movement.  At the end, the poor fool stammers and shouts “Well, you’re a RACIST and an IDIOT.”  Yup, when their intellectual argument breaks down after three minutes — Progressives pull the race card out as their last gasp of hope. 

This is why I don’t associate with the Gay Left — straight, gay or whatever — this protestor exemplifies the Progressive movement; and the Gay Rights crowd are a keystone of the American Progressive movement.

It IS all about redistribution of wealth.  But that isn’t “social justice” folks; it’s Marxist-Communism.

UPDATE: Ben Howe will be my guest tomorrow night on my BlogTalkRadio show, “GayPatriot’s America” at 8:30PM Eastern Time.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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  1. Social justice is a legitimate concept that the Left has taken over and perverted – as they do with so many concepts, for example “progressive”.

    Real progressives support what Americans used to call *progress* – i.e., technological and economic development under capitalism/freedom. So the Left had to take over that word and kill it.

    Likewise, real social justice does not lie in using physical force (government) to loot the prudent and the productive, chiefly for the sake of bureaucrats but with some crumbs thrown to (and the whole deed done in the name of) the imprudent and the unproductive.

    The more a leftist talks about social justice, the more you can be sure that what they are advocating is, in fact, socially unjust.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 29, 2010 @ 1:41 pm - August 29, 2010

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  3. Sorta like how they killed off “racist” but “negro” is acceptable again.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 29, 2010 @ 2:28 pm - August 29, 2010

  4. I agree with ILC–the social justice coming from the Left is not the social justice I read about in Scripture. It’s also not what is being discussed in Catholic Social Teaching. I do believe that government needs to provide a foundation of services for the general welfare of society–health care, education, social security, military protection, roads, food inspection, etc. And I think we all need to contribute an equal share so those things are provided. I believe a 10% flat tax for everyone would do the trick as long as all the loopholes for the rich were filled. As long as everyone is contributing their 10% share and this foundation of services is funded, then people can make as much money as they want.

    The Left basically believes that everyone else is stupid and racist. When Obama’s failure finally becomes spectacularly clear to everyone, Obama will never be blamed–it will be the stupid, racist masses who were just too stupid and racist to appreciate what a great leader he was.

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 29, 2010 @ 2:29 pm - August 29, 2010

  5. To me, social justice is equality of outcome as opposed to equality of opportunity.
    No, Martin Luther King Jr. was NOT for social justice.
    He desired equality of opportunity.

    Comment by Nan G — August 29, 2010 @ 2:34 pm - August 29, 2010

  6. Ash, since apparently you failed to grasp my point: Your concept of “social justice”, in particular, is immoral and socially unjust. I include you among the Leftists who pervert human language.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 29, 2010 @ 2:35 pm - August 29, 2010

  7. The badgering questioner is actually dead wrong about MLK – this site contains the references that the unfortunate representative of progressives couldn’t come up with on the spot.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008250037#2

    That’s not to say that is a part of MLK’s legacy that every progressive supports. I support equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. But go on and keep drawing your caricatures of us!

    Comment by BenD — August 29, 2010 @ 2:37 pm - August 29, 2010

  8. I believe a 10% flat tax for everyone would do the trick as long as all the loopholes for the rich were filled.

    That, I do not believe. I have noticed that your mind in general is so poorly integrated, that you often say things without meaning them: without knowing what you are saying, or equally, just for the posture of the moment: in the next moment you won’t remember or care what you big pose was, 10 minutes earlier. Perhaps this is one of those cases. If it is not – if you understand what you are saying, and intend for us to think that you do mean it, and plan to stick to it longer than 24 hours – then another explanation would be that you are simply lying.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 29, 2010 @ 2:39 pm - August 29, 2010

  9. (After all: you have given your support in other comments to Obamacare, or socialized medicine generally. Socialized medicine is utterly inconsistent with a 10% flat tax.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 29, 2010 @ 2:43 pm - August 29, 2010

  10. Social Justice did real well for the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, & North Korea…

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — August 29, 2010 @ 3:10 pm - August 29, 2010

  11. Why is it that liberals always push to make people poorer instead of helping and empowering folks to become richer?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 29, 2010 @ 3:16 pm - August 29, 2010

  12. I’m not for “socialized medicine.” I’m for a “public option” which is not the same thing. In any case, I think a 10% flat tax would cover it (no matter what you call it) and all the rest of the foundation we need for a strong society.

    I have actually adopted the 10% flat tax idea because of the posts here which have convinced me that our current Income Tax is unfair. I don’t see any reason why the rich should pay a greater percentage of tax than other people. I also think that people should make as much money as they want as long as they are doing their fair share to provide the basic needs of their society. I think a 10% flat tax would encourage both capitalism and social justice. How is that communist?

    Comment by Ashpenaz — August 29, 2010 @ 3:27 pm - August 29, 2010

  13. You know, a double rainbow could have distracted that hippie for hours.

    Comment by V the K — August 29, 2010 @ 3:30 pm - August 29, 2010

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  15. #12: DOUBLE RAINBOW!!!!!

    Comment by Sean A — August 29, 2010 @ 3:38 pm - August 29, 2010

  16. Find me a leftists NOT full of blather.
    Platatudes and blather.
    They like redistribution of wealth so much…..how bout they get themselves equal with Haiti or Ghana? It’s always how our rich gotta get equal with THEM!

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — August 29, 2010 @ 3:54 pm - August 29, 2010

  17. One thing I would have wanted to ask the hippies… after they had blathered on about everybody working together to build better communities and share the wealth… would have been, “OK, well, then, what do you do with the people who don’t want to build your version of a better community, or share their wealth with others?”

    Because the answer to that would have been most illuminating.

    Comment by V the K — August 29, 2010 @ 4:17 pm - August 29, 2010

  18. By the way, is there anyone here that is entertaining the delusion that the homos in this video (with their Flip video cameras, iPhones, spray tans, and pricey sunglasses) would enthusiastically part with even one cent of their OWN income to help achieve “social justice”? I’m thinking that these guys would regard their moral obligation as extending no further than: (1) supporting the goal of achieving social justice; and (2) raising awareness about the importance of social justice. Naturally, they would expect the financial burden of actual wealth being transferred to be borne by others.

    Comment by Sean A — August 29, 2010 @ 4:28 pm - August 29, 2010

  19. How about public option food inspection?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 29, 2010 @ 4:32 pm - August 29, 2010

  20. There’s a very strong body of evidence that “public option” health care would be about as high quality and cost-controlled as “public option” education.

    Comment by V the K — August 29, 2010 @ 5:23 pm - August 29, 2010

  21. I’m not much of a Glenn Beck fan, and there was no doubt he was going to get flak for attacking “social justice” (this was several months ago), but even as a Christian who believes in social justice, I’ve come to cringe at the phrase “social justice” because the phrase has more and more come to mean not just helping out the poor and oppressed in our personal lives and encouraging others to do so voluntarily but to badger people into voting the “correct” way, i.e., for liberal Democrats who will redistribute wealth to make things more “fair.” To be sure, I know many liberal Christians who are very respectful of my politics, and even though I don’t think it happens anywhere near as often as many liberals claim, I am bothered by conservative Christians who talk as if one can’t be a liberal and a Christian. I’d prefer to let my faith and my politics stand on their own, not contradicting each other but not so intertwined that I can’t show respect to Christians who aren’t conservative and conservatives who aren’t Christian. These disclaimers aside, I’ve seen more religious liberals (Jim Wallis, especially) who seem awfully convinced that God is a Democrat and that Christians need to vote that way.

    Comment by chad — August 29, 2010 @ 5:33 pm - August 29, 2010

  22. Didn’t their mommas ever tell them that life isn’t fair? Guess they never heard “If your friend wants to jump off a cliff, would you?” either.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — August 29, 2010 @ 7:56 pm - August 29, 2010

  23. “…real social justice does not lie in using physical force (government) to loot the prudent and the productive, chiefly for the sake of bureaucrats but with some crumbs thrown to (and the whole deed done in the name of) the imprudent and the unproductive.”

    ILC, that is exactly right. The best way government can act in the matter is to stay the hell out of the way. It should not be acting coercively to take from some and give to others. That erases and totally destroys any aspect of genuine justice in the situation.

    There would be more jobs if government just stopped shoving businesses around. It can do little, if anything, in the process that is positive besides getting out of the way. Almost everything it does has negative consequences.

    Comment by Lori Heine — August 29, 2010 @ 8:37 pm - August 29, 2010

  24. “Social Justice” and “to promote the general welfare” in the “mind” of your average abnormal liberal are clear and concise. But your average abnormal liberal can not definitively define either “social justice” or “welfare.”

    Terms that cannot be defined are their favored playing field. Hopenchange, equality, fairness, privacy, commerce, reasonable, hate crime, racism, fascism, welfare, blah, blah, blah are all staples in the moral relativist’s preening, peacock vocabulary.

    If you cannot nail down the meaning of a term, such as social justice, what use is it? Only to have a swinging door to use as a trump card when you are backed into a corner.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 29, 2010 @ 8:37 pm - August 29, 2010

  25. A Mormon Bishop has been shot and killed near my town. It happened at 12:30 today, and of course, only FOX is covering it on the national level. If it would have been an Imam, well….

    More info http://sonicfrog.net/?p=3764“>on my blog.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — August 29, 2010 @ 9:49 pm - August 29, 2010

  26. Typical idiot leftist; he throws out “social justice” and defines it in such broad terms it could mean anything. Leftists do this to hide the specifics of their agenda, which is the massive confiscation of property and money and redistribution to those they deem fit. Ultimately, this means using the coercive power of the state.

    Beck is therefore right to hammer on this term, as it brings the liberal agenda out into the open and exposes it for what it really is.

    Comment by Tom the Redhunter — August 29, 2010 @ 10:39 pm - August 29, 2010

  27. Sonic, something tells me that story will receive somewhat less coverage on MSNBC and CNN than the non-fatal stabbing of a Muslim cabdriver by a drunken nutcase in NYC.

    Comment by V the K — August 29, 2010 @ 11:14 pm - August 29, 2010

  28. “[Ashpenaz] do[es] believe that government needs to provide a foundation of services for the general welfare of society–health care, education, social security, military protection, roads, food inspection, etc.”

    That’s nice Ash, why don’t you lobby your local government to assume those responcibilties? The Federal Government’s powers are supposed to be limited and enumerated, on your dream list, only roads and military (you forgot border) protection are clearly defined and maybe food inspection if it crosses state lines. You want those covered by the Feds? That’s what the ammendment process is for.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 30, 2010 @ 8:39 am - August 30, 2010

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  30. The confrontation is more heat (tepid, at that) than light. Although it does call attention to the need for a serious examination of the strains of MLK’s thought and activism and their applicability in these times.

    Comment by Gay is NOT the new Black — August 30, 2010 @ 10:20 am - August 30, 2010

  31. So back to the dope in the video… He gets part of it right. Social justice does indeed involve, as he says in the video, “equality under the law” “regardless of creed, race” etc., “the ability to earn your keep [i.e., the freedom to earn your living] and not have to fight forces” that would prevent you.

    But like other leftists whose minds are equally as mis-integrated and dysfunctional, he leaps from there to thinking social justice is about loot-thy-neighbor: about using government force to take what you haven’t earned, from your neighbor. “Radical redistribution.” Taking away your neighbor’s equality under the law and destroying the fruits of his “earning his keep”.

    If he is so concerned that “1% of the population owns 62% of the wealth”, then he should support total separation of Business and State (or of Economics and State), as I do, as well as a return to hard money. Hard money makes the little guy’s savings worth something, so he can keep what he has earned. Separation of Business and State means that companies must succeed or fail on their merits in serving customers; they cannot use the government regulators to shut down their competitors.

    It is precisely when government interferes with business and picks winners and losers politically, that merit and consumer service vanish. It is precisely when government spends and prints money wildly to depreciate the currency (as it is doing today), destroying the value of savings and pensions, that sleazy manipulators scoop up goverment money (bailouts) and other profits that they haven’t earned, increasing social *injustice*.

    I say again that social justice is a legitimate concept which the Left – including the part that so laughably imagines itself to be “Christian” – has destroyed by perverting it out of all recognition. Just like they have done with “progressive”, “liberal” and “democrat”. Intellectual and moral perversion: it’s what leftists do.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 30, 2010 @ 10:44 am - August 30, 2010

  32. I am an American citizen and I have always loved my country. It is a Capitalist Democracy, that used to have a stable economy. Communism and the national socialization (Nazism?) of our country’s social institutions – such as the economy and education – is a form of social INJUSTICE. We need our social institutions to separate themselves from Government and corrupt politicians.

    I hope that America’s social institutions can be fully private/independent and better themselves – not by the hands of politicians in Government – through intellectual achievements and personal responsibility.

    Comment by Totakikay — August 30, 2010 @ 4:17 pm - August 30, 2010

  33. The problem with liberals, is they believe their own intuitions about abstract statistics equal science.

    It’s one thing to cite the wealth distribution statistic. It’s another thing to figure out the causation. Too-low capital gain/dividend tax rates may have contributed, but they also kept the 2001 stock crash from becoming a depression. chronic budget deficits (and the trade, savings, consumption and investment imbalances they spawn) were likely a much bigger problem, as wealth tends to become more concentrate during times of economic volatility and bubbles.

    A true socially-just position would avoid grouping people into generic categories. It wouldn’t say “if you make more then X you are evil and don’t deserve it.” It would seek out problems in a unbiased manner, without assigning excessive blame. By doing so any fundamental, structural problems would be fixed (e.g. like Utah is doing with it’s health reform) in a way that benefits everyone.

    Comment by joeedh — August 30, 2010 @ 7:51 pm - August 30, 2010

  34. Hrm. I sounded like I side with the neo-cons’ budget policies there. I don’t. The real lesson to take away from all of this: interrupting an economic adjustment always has a cost. All economic stimulus policy should be politically independent and self-funded (some sort of business cycle insurance, where people save during good times and get coupons to spend during bad times, without taxpayer dollars if at all possible).

    Comment by joeedh — August 30, 2010 @ 7:58 pm - August 30, 2010

  35. some sort of business cycle insurance, where people save during good times and get coupons to spend during bad times, without taxpayer dollars if at all possible

    In the olden days, joeedh, they called it “savings accounts”.

    But the difference was hard money. People knew that the government wasn’t covertly taxing away the value (the purchasing power) of their savings by printing money to fund government deficits. People got 5% interest (instead of 0%) and that 5% was something real, a real incentive to save.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 31, 2010 @ 11:05 am - August 31, 2010

  36. The next time a hippy “progressive” type extolls the virtues of “social justice,” ask him to give you his clothes. After all, we’re all in this together, right?

    Comment by bastiat fan — August 31, 2010 @ 1:39 pm - August 31, 2010

  37. ILC,

    Here is my introduction to saving: In the early 50’s my dad took me to my first major league baseball game. As were walking away from the stadium after the game, dad said he needed to make a phone call. He discovered he didn’t have a nickel for the pay phone. I proudly came up with the needed coin. After the call, dad said he would give me the nickel back when he got some change. I told him to forget it. I was being so very adult. He looked me in my eyes and said: Son, you will be happy to get 5 cents in interest on the dollar you save in the bank for a year.

    It was at that point that I decided to save in units of $20.00. Up until that moment, I was just fooling around with loose change.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 31, 2010 @ 2:50 pm - August 31, 2010

  38. heliotrope: There is a reason the 50s were known as “Happy Days”. Of course it wasn’t perfect, but – for most people, responsible behavior was rewarded.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 31, 2010 @ 5:59 pm - August 31, 2010

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