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Are gays defending leftist tyrants who persecute gays self-hating*?

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 1:36 pm - September 3, 2010.
Filed under: Gay PC Silliness,Gays in Other Lands

Via Instapundit comes Michael Moynihan’s reflections on Fidel Castro’s apology “for his revolution’s ‘excesses’ against gay Cubans“:

As [Mark] Hemingway notes, Castro’s persecution of gays (and black Cubans) hardly stopped in the 1970s, as this Reuters story suggests, with gay bars routinely shut down by the state security service and organizers of a 2008 gay pride march thrown in jail. But for this non-apology, designed to burnish his foul legacy, Foreign Policy magazine says that while Castro is “a bit late,” he nevertheless “deserves plaudits.” No he doesn’t. Nor did Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet deserves plaudits for his 1999 letter “lamenting” (and not apologizing) those killed during his reign—which, incidentally, no one in the media was willing to grant. And rightly so.

Great analogy.  It seems that only leftist tyrants deserve plaudits when they apologize for torture and persecution while right-wingers can never (never, NEVER, NEVER) be forgiven for their wrongdoings.

When I first posted on the former dictator’s “apology,” some of our (left-of-center) readers were quick to acknowledge this admission of responsibility (with one indicating he believed the one-time leftist leader still had a ways to go).

Why do some folks on the left show a greater willingness to forgive a man who isolated, imprisoned and tortured gay people than a then-closeted gay man who advocated for traditional marriage?  That man, Ken Mehlman, never harmed a single gay individual (save in the imagination of the gay left).

Seems to be a default reaction of all too many on the political left (including gay people) to show some sympathy for an anti-American tyrant — no matter his treatment of gay people.  And they call us self-hating for generally supporting a party with an imperfect record on gay issues.

What do we call gay people who defend a leftist leader who persecutes gay people?

*or is that expression reserved for right-of-center homosexuals who support (or otherwise defend) the GOP?

NB:  Changed title to keep it all on one line.



  1. Those leftist gay people are useful idiots or terribly stupid. But some non-political gay people would simply be ignorant if they support Left-wing extremists like Communist Fidel Castro – they could be forgiven for their ignorance and taught some history lessons, haha!

    I am becoming more aware that the Republican Party has done positive things for gay and lesbian Americans over the decades past. The GOP is traditionally known to support gun rights and law enforcement…support for businesses…strong support for our U.S. Military – if it weren’t for our American soldiers the Klu Klux Klan (during the American Revolution), Communist (during the Cold War Era), Nazi (during the World War 2 Era), and Islamist regimes (still happening today) would continue to oppress and kill gay people on a GENOCIDAL SCALE until this very day…THANK GOODNESS some of those regimes were destroyed in the past by our American Military. In addition, the GOP does not go beyond mere disagreement with same-sex marriage by persecuting and executing homosexuals, not that I know of. I highly doubt they could ever think of doing that O__o That would be against the freedom-loving ideology of the U.S. Military! (Note: Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell policy will likely be repealed, by both Republicans and Democrats, in the future)

    Its silly to think that the Democrat Party and their Left-Wing extremist supporters did ANYthing positive and life-improving for gay people. I thought about that carefully.

    Comment by Totakikay — September 3, 2010 @ 2:08 pm - September 3, 2010

  2. What do we call gay people who defend a leftist leader who persecutes gay people?


    Comment by heliotrope — September 3, 2010 @ 3:02 pm - September 3, 2010

  3. How can one claim their for gay rights and support Palestine, Castro, Guevara, Islamo-fascism etc.? Seems that would be the epitome of “self-loathing”.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 3, 2010 @ 3:33 pm - September 3, 2010

  4. Group think is the answer; they are not thinking critically–only the Democrats adore tyrants. They are willing supplicants.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — September 3, 2010 @ 4:40 pm - September 3, 2010

  5. IDK, maybe to have a victim mentality, like the gay left, you also have to be a masochist to a certain degree. Maybe the thought of living under a tyrant who brutalizes you is… to certain gheys… kind of sexy.

    Comment by V the K — September 3, 2010 @ 5:22 pm - September 3, 2010

  6. “excesses”: the kind of banality George Orwell and Hannah Arendt warned us about, implying that persecution based on sexual orientation is acceptable within limits. As Realpolitik, it acknowledges that the Gramscian long march through institutions has led to “la victoria siempre” he and his generation of revolutionaries were “hasta”-ing for.

    Comment by Gay is NOT the new Black — September 3, 2010 @ 7:59 pm - September 3, 2010

  7. “What do we call gay people who defend a leftist leader who persecutes gay people?”


    Comment by mike — September 3, 2010 @ 10:29 pm - September 3, 2010

  8. Totakikay, the Ku Klux Klan didn’t exist during the American Revolution. It was formed after the Civil War. Other than that historical gaffe, your point is well taken.

    Comment by Seane-Anna — September 3, 2010 @ 11:14 pm - September 3, 2010

  9. The gay left and the left in general has alliances with multiple organizations and ideologies that would challenge and threaten its very existence. Sometimes it seems that the gay left takes solice in forming relationships with other groups that are designated “minorities” by the liberal establishment, but within this minority station, gays are the fewest in number and the least respected. For Islam, Communists, etc., the fact that liberal gays engender their sentiment is convenient for the cause, but are expendable when the cause becomes actualized. It is no different than Hitler using celebrities to endorse his policies and then exterminating them after taking power because, although the celebrities were useful at intonating the cause, they were unproductive citizens who created nothing. Some of the first people killed under Communist rule were gays because they do not reproduce a society to further on Communism; they were unproductive.

    Althought this link is off-topic, I thought it interesting that one of the comments sent to Pamel Gellar of, atlasshrugs, threatening her life, was that homosexuality is a movement of the Zionist’s and that this person considers himself a suicide bomber. Ironically, the left has willingly befriended this man’s movement by embracing Islam as it is, rather than asking Islam to conform to modernity and embrace humanity.

    Comment by Holly — September 4, 2010 @ 12:08 am - September 4, 2010

  10. Rag on Pinochet all you want, but at the end of the day, he gave up his power, and he left his country freer and more prosperous than he found it. Can the same be said of left-wing heroes like Castro, Chavez, and Mao?

    Comment by V the K — September 4, 2010 @ 9:08 am - September 4, 2010

  11. Since this is 2010, not 1910, I think that “useful idiots” and “self-loathing” have very limited applicability. These people are not naive fools; they genuinely hate freedom and love tyranny. That is their controlling passion; anything else–gay rights etc–is far less important to them.

    Comment by pst314 — September 4, 2010 @ 11:29 am - September 4, 2010

  12. Well said, pst314, very well said.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — September 4, 2010 @ 11:36 am - September 4, 2010

  13. I’d proffer they don’t overtly and with understanding, “love tyranny;” and I’m not defending them one whit. I believe they so loathe (incorrectly, unfortunately and irretrievably) the “Right” and essentially those of different mindsets from themselves, their friends and their idols…that they have 1.literally forced themselves in juxtaposition with the tyrants and liberal heroes of the day, so that they have no place else from which to comment, foment or exist; and 2. are too prideful, selfish and blinded by group-think to admit their position.

    Comment by rodney — September 5, 2010 @ 7:46 am - September 5, 2010

  14. Of course they aren’t self-loathing for happily accepting Castro’s non-apology with they most sycophantic “water-under-the-bridge” attitude they can muster. It makes wearing those trendy Che shirts much less uncomfortable now that we know the regime is mildly embarrassed that gays and other minorities disappeared in the system of prison camps organized by Sr. Guevara. Self-loathing gays are only that for some reason or another don’t wholeheartedly embrace every effort to legalize same-sex marriage at every moment in their entire lives (cf. Mehlman).

    [Lest anyone wonder, I wrote this comment with a healthy measure of sarcasm.]

    Comment by Alex in Denver — September 6, 2010 @ 11:00 pm - September 6, 2010

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