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Guess that means he’s written off 2010 already

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 2:35 am - September 22, 2010.
Filed under: 2010 Elections,2012 Presidential Election

Peter Beinart: 2012 Will Be a Debacle for the GOP



  1. Dr. Beinart’s article is founded on a misguided premise. He thinks he can predict the future based on reading history and plugging everyone into these neat analogies. My favorite philosopher, Michel Foucault, noticed this problem in intellectuals almost 40 years ago: they see false unities and phony consistencies everywhere, and are blind to the possibility that something new can come along and break all the rules.

    What happened with Goldwater and McGovern is very different from Sarah Palin, who isn’t necessarily moving the party to the “right” but rather changing the way people talk about issues, and expanding who has a voice in the debate. She isn’t terribly radical in her views; she just happens to be from outside the establishment.

    Dr. Beinart also seems to think Bush pushed the party to the right, and that’s an oversimplification. Bush was highly liberal on education policy, immigration, government spending, and yes, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where he focused on progressive nation building, multicultural approaches to Islam, and equal rights for women, sometimes at the expense of a viable strategy.

    This article, like so many that parade as neutral observations, carries a lot of hostility to Sarah Palin. I don’t think he understands the movement and he is wedded to definitions of Right and Left that have been totally changed by the Tea Party movement and the growth in Independents (like me).

    Comment by Coco Rico — September 22, 2010 @ 4:04 am - September 22, 2010

  2. I read a very satisfying take down of Beinart the other day — wish I could remember where. Seems he doesn’t have many fans on either side of the aisle in his industry.

    Comment by American Elephant — September 22, 2010 @ 8:01 am - September 22, 2010

  3. Depressingly, he might be correct. If the GOP picks some socially-conservative whack-job from the Midwest whom most Americans haven’t heard-of…the GOP will lose to Hillary Clinton. They might have won against Obama, but He’ll be too bruised and damaged to successfully run again if the economy muddles along like it’s currently doing for the next two years. The electorate voted for an “unknown” in 2008…and isn’t going to be in the mood to vote based on random “Hope” a second time.

    And after 18-months of Obama, lots of Democrats are having buyer’s remorse for backing Obama vs. Hillary Clinton in 2008.

    The Tea Party may well be successful in 2010 and 2012 on the Hill, and perhaps capture a few statehouses…but I just don’t see it translating that outrage and excitement into a Presidential campaign for 2012. They just don’t have the bench-strength to capture the White House. The 2012 GOP primary season will be a sinister mirror-image of the Democrats in 2008…Palin and the Seven Dwarfs, with some relative unknown dark-horse compromise candidate winning (barely) the GOP 2012 Convention.

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — September 22, 2010 @ 9:02 am - September 22, 2010

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  5. American Elephant, George Will took down Beinhart on ABC’s Sunday morging show when Beinhart mi characterized the Tea Party to George McGovern’s 1972 presidential bid. Beinhart failed to mention McGovern is a Democrat.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — September 22, 2010 @ 9:13 am - September 22, 2010

  6. Personally, i dont think Sarah Palin will be running for President in 2012.

    While the media spends all it’s time attacking Sarah Palin, the real candidate can prepare in relative peace. Sarah Palin is a diversion.

    And while we’re on the subject, i’d like to announce my own candidacy for President of the United States. I even thought of a clever campaign slogan: “I AM SPARTACUS!”

    Comment by gastorgrab — September 22, 2010 @ 11:26 am - September 22, 2010

  7. Gastergarb, just remember that Spartacus lost and was nailed to a cross.

    Comment by Ted B. — September 22, 2010 @ 11:35 am - September 22, 2010

  8. Which one?

    Comment by gastorgrab — September 22, 2010 @ 11:39 am - September 22, 2010

  9. Can you guys name a single GOP Senator who supports and PROMOTES Equality for the LGBT Community?

    Actual Equality, meaning full and Equal rights?

    Marriage Equality? The right to serve with honour and integrity and HONESTY?

    Come on, name ONE.

    Comment by Little Kiwi — September 22, 2010 @ 1:53 pm - September 22, 2010

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  11. “Marriage Equality?”


    Why is that the standard? Why does putting the word “Equality” on the end, make it true? Would you vote for the ‘Make gastorgrab rich Equality Act’?

    Instead of asking “Who supports my position?”, shouldn’t we be saying “This is why you should support my position; …. xyz-123 …..”?

    To make a confession; i see myself as heterosexual/conservative. And while the GayPatriot keeps talking about real subjects, i will continue to look over his blog, and make real comments.

    The very reason i am here is because i believe that i have a common cause with the Gay community. I believe that the American people themselves should do what they decide is ‘Moral’, and that the government should only do what is ‘Necessary’. I believe that both the ‘Religious Right’ AND ‘Social Justice Democrats’ are committing the very same ‘moral’ crime. I believe that they both are trying to impose their own set of moral rules on the American people.

    Do we really, as Nancy Pelosi claims, have a “Moral Imperative” to provide national health care? Do we as a nation have a “Moral Imperative” to do anything?

    While i do not support ‘Gay Marriage’ (make your argument), i will support Civil Unions. It is NOT the place of the government to tell people who they may or may not associate with, nor is their right to tell people who they may call ‘Family’. Fuck Them!

    Comment by gastorgrab — September 22, 2010 @ 4:03 pm - September 22, 2010

  12. American Elephant, you find the George Will clip on Newsbusters.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — September 22, 2010 @ 7:12 pm - September 22, 2010

  13. American Elephant, here’s the URL:

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — September 22, 2010 @ 7:15 pm - September 22, 2010

  14. Thanks Sebastian, that’s fun, but not the take-down I was thinking of. The one I am referring to was written, and had to do with how he;s an insufferable self-promoter that nobody can stand.

    Comment by American Elephant — September 22, 2010 @ 11:59 pm - September 22, 2010

  15. Hugh Hewitt published a little book c. 2005, “Painting the Map Red”, which I think I last used as a trivet.

    Comment by Gay is NOT the new Black — September 23, 2010 @ 11:52 pm - September 23, 2010

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