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The dark & deadly demons haunting Bill Maher

October 3, 2010 by B. Daniel Blatt

Sometimes, I think Bill Maher makes a schtick of his animosity against Republicans, knowing that it will gain him favor in Hollywood circles and give him the much needed attention he so craves.

He has never distinguished himself by the quality of his arguments, the originality of his thought or the humor of his comedy.  He masquerades as an independent thinker while towing the left-wing Hollywood line.  He claims to be a libertarian while rarely opposing the big-government initiatives of the Democratic Party.

And now we see just how much in the tank he is for this party of government which has, in the past 20 months, distinguished itself by passing legislation which increases the size of the federal government and the scope of its intervention in our lives.  Hardly libertarian these.

The occasionally curmudgeonly iconoclast (a true libertarian he!) Robert S. McCain takes note of the recent remarks of this lock-step leftist:

“I am not here to carry water for this or any administration, but the facts of the coming election are Democrats have real accomplishments to run on. . . . [W]hen it comes to voting, when we only have two choices, you got to grow up and realize there’s a big difference between a disappointing friend and a deadly enemy. . . .

Of course, the Democrats are disappointing. That’s what makes them Democrats. If they were any more frustrating they’d be your relatives. But in this country, they are all that stands between you and darkest night. You know why their symbol is the letter D? Because it’s a grade that means good enough but just barely. You know why the Republican symbol is R? Because it’s the noise a pirate makes when he robs you and feeds you to a shark.”

Calling Republicans a “deadly enemy”?  From a guy who once claimed to be a libertarian, those are strange words indeed as the party has done its best to oppose the Administration’s big-government schemes while its House leadership recently released a pledge with a strong small-government flavor.

Yeah, he pretends he’s disappointed with the Democrats, but that’s to give him more credibility on the far left. He really just wants to show how much he hates the Republicans.

This guy really harbors a lot of hate.  Wonder why all those so concerned with the supposed hatred on the right don’t call him out on it.

Filed Under: Annoying Celebrities, Liberal Hypocrisy, Mean-spirited leftists, Movies/Film & TV

Comments

  1. VotingFemale says

    October 3, 2010 at 4:04 pm - October 3, 2010

    His expressed level of hate is a barometer of conservative successes going forward.

    Come on bill! HATE HATE HATE US ALL!!!!

    hahahahaha

    he’s such a pout… coo…

  2. VotingFemale says

    October 3, 2010 at 4:05 pm - October 3, 2010

    forgot to add my blog url

    :/

  3. Richard R says

    October 3, 2010 at 4:43 pm - October 3, 2010

    Well, I’ve read this post, and the only one I’m close to agreeing with is Robert S. McCain.

    Look, I’ve been on earth for 66 years. Years ago the Republicans were a party that was at least worth listening to. I would sometimes agree with them, and would sometimes vote for their candidates. And I was once registered as “independent.” Over time the Republicans have morphed into something else entirely.

    Today I see a Republican Party that is reckless, reactionary, theocratic, hateful, delusional, bigoted, superstitious, anti-science, nasty, jingoistic, spiteful, and lovers of deficit spending when they are doing the spending.

    The Republicans have been in the White House for 20 of the last 30 years. Only two things immediately come to mind that I applauded: Reagan’s firing of the air traffic controllers, and the passage of the Americans for Disability Act (ADA) under George H.W. Bush.

  4. AF_Vet says

    October 3, 2010 at 4:57 pm - October 3, 2010

    “reckless, reactionary, theocratic, hateful, delusional, bigoted, superstitious, anti-science, nasty, jingoistic, spiteful, and lovers of deficit spending when they are doing the spending”

    Wow Richard–you just described today’s Democrat party to a “T.”

  5. Proud Liberal says

    October 3, 2010 at 5:33 pm - October 3, 2010

    I knew sooner or later you guys would get around to bashing Bill Maher.

    Go ahead – he can take whatever you clowns throw at him. He’s also right 95 percent of the time, which is 94.9% more often than you guys.

  6. American Elephant says

    October 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm - October 3, 2010

    Bill Maher is a drug-addled pervert who is famous for his love of getting high and having sex with girls young enough to be his GRAND-daughter at the playboy mansion grotto.

    Of COURSE he hates the Republican party! We at least try to have some standards!

  7. V the K says

    October 3, 2010 at 7:17 pm - October 3, 2010

    Bill Maher revealed himself as an ignorant buffoon when he loudly proclaimed that Brazil had weaned itself off oil; which would come as a surprise to the Brazilian oil companies drilling off-shore, and to the US Department of Energy, which notes that Brazil’s economy is far more dependent on oil than the US economy is.

    I am sure his views on religion are equally well-informed.

  8. Sebastian Shaw says

    October 3, 2010 at 7:41 pm - October 3, 2010

    When is Bill Maher going to become one of Hugh Hefner’s girls? They can cancel Maher’s HBO show & he can resurface on E! as one of Hef’s girls. All he would need to do is dye his hair blonde & wear fake boobs that often manifest when he talks.

  9. Levi says

    October 3, 2010 at 7:47 pm - October 3, 2010

    I know it’s tough to not have any conservatives represented in the intellectual and artistic industries in this country. There are no conservative comedians, there are no conservative scientists, conservatives don’t make good movies or music…. what’s wrong with you people? Better whine about the successful liberals and keep buying into that persecution complex you’ve worked so hard on.

  10. V the K says

    October 3, 2010 at 8:30 pm - October 3, 2010

    Aw, Levi must be so insecure having to insist that his politics must be right because the cool kids are on his side. (Although Dennis Miller, Adam Sandler, and PJ O’Rourke might have something to say about there not being any conservative comedians.)

  11. American Elephant says

    October 3, 2010 at 8:33 pm - October 3, 2010

    LOL! You know your “movement” truly is a bowel movement when Bill Maher is considered a “successful intellectual!”

    How many shows had he had cancelled because nobody watches him? The only place he can get a job is on the graveyard shift on the weekends. I bet EVERY show at ANY time slot on FOX News beats Bill Maher.

    And the fact that you cant name any conservative comedians, scientists, fimmakers, musicians, etc, doesn’t mean they don’t exist, it just makes you ignorant.

    But everyone knows that already.

  12. The_Livewire says

    October 3, 2010 at 8:40 pm - October 3, 2010

    Given Levi doesn’t understand the constitution, lies constantly, and believes that brain volume = intelligence…

    I’m sure that he’s just as accurate on the term ‘intellectual’

  13. American Elephant says

    October 3, 2010 at 8:43 pm - October 3, 2010

    Although Dennis Miller, Adam Sandler, and PJ O’Rourke might have something to say about there not being any conservative comedians

    …and Darrell Hammond, Victoria Jackson, Drew Carey, Norm Macdonald, Jackie Mason, Leslie Nielsen, David Spade, Nancy Cartwritght (Bart Simpson), Joan Rivers, Kelsey Grammar, etc…

  14. V the K says

    October 3, 2010 at 8:57 pm - October 3, 2010

    Not that any of that is knock on liberal comic geniuses like Margaret Cho, Sandra Bernhardt, Janeane Garofalo, Sam Seder, Doug Stanhope, or Lewis Black. All of whom are about as funny as a dental abscess.

  15. V the K says

    October 3, 2010 at 9:14 pm - October 3, 2010

    Now scientists are more difficult to quantify, since good scientists don’t generally wear their politics on their sleeves. (The scienticians who support global warming… the leader of whom, Rajendra K. Pachauri, is a guy from India with no science background who trained as a railroad engineer… are another story entirely.) But a few scientists whose work and associations suggest at least some conservative leanings would include Dr. Roy Spencer, Freeman Dyson, Michal Heller, Stephen Barr, and Jennifer Wiseman. Two scientists, Ruth McClung of Arizona and Michael P. Stopa of Massachusetts, even ran for congress as Republicans.

    But liberals do have a virtual monopoly on performance artists, ambulance-chasing lawyers, and useless unionized bureaucrats.

  16. American Elephant says

    October 3, 2010 at 9:23 pm - October 3, 2010

    Count up all the doctors IN congress, and running for congress against Obamacare who are Republicans, and the number of doctors in congress or running for Congress who are Democrats, and that gives you a pretty good idea. Republican doctors vastly outnumber Democrat Docs.

    And one of the few Dem docs is Baghdad Jim McDermott a psychiatrist, naturally, cus hes such a nutcase himself!

  17. Levi says

    October 3, 2010 at 11:33 pm - October 3, 2010

    Oh wow guys, I appreciate all of your little lists. I really do – now maybe you can all stop bitching about how these liberal colleges and universities, along with liberal-controlled Hollywood, are corrupting the youth and being so unfair to conservatives? Unless, of course, you’d like to continue having it both ways?

    Remember dummies, the liberals-control-academia-and-all-media is a conservative talking point. Why so defensive now that it’s a liberal pointing that out?

  18. Levi says

    October 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm - October 3, 2010

    Calling Republicans a “deadly enemy”?

    Spare us the totally fake indignation. There’s are more outrageous rhetoric out there than this, lots of it coming from your side.

    If you can’t handle teenager-level political anguage, why don’t you stick to blogging about Nickelodeon show?

    From a guy who once claimed to be a libertarian, those are strange words indeed as the party has done its best to oppose the Administration’s big-government schemes while its House leadership recently released a pledge with a strong small-government flavor.

    You have a minor problem here – Republicans swelled government massively when they were in power, and that was only a few years ago. How do you think it’s fair to give the Republicans credit for ‘standing for small government,’ when they were growing it faster than anyone before them when they were the ones setting the agenda? And as far as pledges go, don’t you think you ought to see what your completely discredited party of choice does when they’re back in control again before you start heaping praise on them?

    I mean, it’s not as if shamelessly boosting the Republicans despite their complete abandonment of the platform’s stated ideals is what lost them the the government and public opinion in the past few election cycles. Glad to see you’re evolving!

  19. Eric Olsen says

    October 4, 2010 at 7:25 am - October 4, 2010

    Priceless…

    I know it’s tough to not have any conservatives represented in the intellectual and artistic industries in this country.

    Translation (for those of you who don’t speak moonbat): “I’m right because famous people agree with me!!!!

    My GOD, I knew these people were stupid; I just had no idea how sophomoric they all seem to be.

  20. Name says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:14 am - October 4, 2010

    Let’s not forget Maher’s comments about 9-11. They should play those over and over each year.

  21. V the K says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:25 am - October 4, 2010

    My GOD, I knew these people were stupid; I just had no idea how sophomoric they all seem to be.

    Levi is a constant reminder of that.

    For a conservative to succeed in the leftist-dominated hostile working environments of academia or Hollywood, they have to A. Be really, really good and B. Keep their conservative views in the closet. But any no-talent leftist hack who spouts the party-line can be assured of getting tenure and/or a show on Comedy Central.

  22. Levi says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:38 am - October 4, 2010

    Translation (for those of you who don’t speak moonbat): “I’m right because famous people agree with me!!!!

    My GOD, I knew these people were stupid; I just had no idea how sophomoric they all seem to be.

  23. Heliotrope says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:44 am - October 4, 2010

    #2 Richard twitches:

    Today I see a Republican Party that is reckless, reactionary, theocratic, hateful, delusional, bigoted, superstitious, anti-science, nasty, jingoistic, spiteful, and lovers of deficit spending when they are doing the spending.

    Good to see that Richard is at peace with his soul. We will all miss his insight.

  24. Levi says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:49 am - October 4, 2010

    Woops, meant to quote that:

    Translation (for those of you who don’t speak moonbat): “I’m right because famous people agree with me!!!!

    I wouldn’t say that. I just think it does say something about the conservative movement that they don’t contribute all that much to entertainment media or to institutions of higher learning. And further than that, conservatives believe that people in these fields are out to get them. Again – it sounds like sour grapes to me. Hollywood is the biggest export that the United States has going for it, when it’s products do make political statements, they’re usually liberal, and people all over the world gobble it up. That’s the part that annoys you. They’re peddling a liberal message, and a global audience is rewarding them with their money.

  25. Heliotrope says

    October 4, 2010 at 9:07 am - October 4, 2010

    Ah, Levi, you are so brilliantly schooled. #8:

    There are no conservative comedians, there are no conservative scientists, conservatives don’t make good movies or music…. what’s wrong with you people?

    Why not tell us what conservatives can do. Surely your research has found something.

    #16:

    Remember dummies, the liberals-control-academia-and-all-media is a conservative talking point. Why so defensive now that it’s a liberal pointing that out?

    Well, because even a dummy can understand that controlling does not mean exclusive.

    #17:

    I mean, it’s not as if shamelessly boosting the Republicans despite their complete abandonment of the platform’s stated ideals is what lost them the the government and public opinion in the past few election cycles. Glad to see you’re evolving!

    Ahem. It is not as if anyone here has cheered on the Democrat-lite Republicans. You should look at the TEA Party and try to understand what propels them. Meanwhile, the Democrats took over and went from bloated government to leviathan government with nanny state tentacles reaching into lunch boxes and death panels. Strange you don’t flaunt your achievements with the same vigor you pick at Republican faults.

    So, Levi, you can have Bill Maher as your den leader and welcome to him. He has no known evolved philosophy in any field. His political views have no firm principles. His anti-religion is not intellectually stimulating because it is just predictably vapid. His “libertarian” ideas are really more license than liberty. In short, he is small minded. But he does blow hot air. You two have a lot in common.

  26. V the K says

    October 4, 2010 at 10:47 am - October 4, 2010

    He is small minded. But he does blow hot air. You two have a lot in common.

    Threadwinner!

  27. Proud Liberal says

    October 4, 2010 at 11:18 am - October 4, 2010

    Bill has had plenty of conversatives on his show over the years….Ann Coulter, PJ O’Rourke, Darrell Issa, etc.

    He is FAIR to both sides. You guys just have to whine about everything.

    OH BOO HOO BILL MAHER IS BEING MEAN TO US! WAAAHHHH!!!!

    That’s because you clowns bring it on yourselves with your STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE. Maybe if you nominated some SANE people for a change instead of these wingnuts, he would make fun of Democrats more.

  28. V the K says

    October 4, 2010 at 1:05 pm - October 4, 2010

    Can anyone see a pompous ass like Bill Maher (or Keith Olbermann, or Rachel Maddow, or Ed Schultz) have enough confidence in himself to do what Rush Limbaugh did on ‘Family Guy?’ No, none of those guys’ egos could bear being mocked like that.

    BTW: Here’s class-act liberal progressive Bill Maher going to a Hallowe’en party dressed a Steve Irwin. So classy, these progressives.

  29. Levi says

    October 4, 2010 at 1:06 pm - October 4, 2010

    Ahem. It is not as if anyone here has cheered on the Democrat-lite Republicans. You should look at the TEA Party and try to understand what propels them. Meanwhile, the Democrats took over and went from bloated government to leviathan government with nanny state tentacles reaching into lunch boxes and death panels. Strange you don’t flaunt your achievements with the same vigor you pick at Republican faults.

    The Tea Party is the Republican base – they’re mad because they lost a few elections. I don’t doubt that some of it has to do with the problems with the economy, but I’ve never really detected anything all that special or different about these Republicans compared to the Republicans that cheered on George Bush all those years. Every Republican you talk to these days says that they were the one exceptional conservative that was angry about Bush’s spending in 2004 and 2005, but I just don’t believe you when you say it. You don’t get to spend 8 years yawning at deficit spending when your party is in power, then expect to have any credibility when the other party gets in and does the same thing. And I know, I know – between the stimulus and TARP and healthcare it is more spending, but if this is how angry the tea partiers are now, shouldn’t there have been at least some proportional blowback under Bush, especially considering those were record-setting budgets at the time?

    As for the achievements of this administration, I find almost nothing he’s done to be commendable. The stimulus should have been bigger, we should be pulling people back from Afghanistan, we should be investigating Bush and his administration for their insane torture and detention policies…. the list goes on. I wasn’t convinced Obama was going to be a great President but I figured he should get a chance. He’s blown it, and there’s nothing he could do to get me to vote for him in 2012. Because of his political naivety and his complete incompetence in dealing with a marginalized and unpopular minority party, it is quite literally true that a vote for Obama in 2008 was also vote for Republicans in 2010. So I’m cutting away – which is far more than can be said about most conservatives, who resoundingly and enthusiastically supported Bush’s re-election after years of deficits.

    So, Levi, you can have Bill Maher as your den leader and welcome to him. He has no known evolved philosophy in any field. His political views have no firm principles. His anti-religion is not intellectually stimulating because it is just predictably vapid. His “libertarian” ideas are really more license than liberty. In short, he is small minded. But he does blow hot air. You two have a lot in common.

    I think Bill Maher is funny and occassionally makes some very good political points. I also like that he has conservatives on his show. It’s a far more confrontational/debate style set-up that produces far more interesting results. He had Andrew Breitbart and Amy Holmes on two weeks ago and promised two more conservatives next week. Whether you like Bill or not, his show features a much better format for political discussion. They don’t have to toss to commercials, they don’t have advertisers to cater to, people can say what they want, the panel gets an uninterrupted 40 minutes or so for discussion – it’s superior in every regard to what you see on the nightly news, although the guests are sometimes pretty boring, and episodes without conservatives especially so. Last year, he had Rob Thomas from Matchbox 22, Will.i.Am from the Black Eyed Peas, and some kindergarten teacher – it was the most boring hour of television I’ve ever seen. But that’s not the norm.
    I’m sorry you don’t like the jokes, and I’m sorry he makes fun of wacky Christians who hate masturbation, but if you can put the aside, you should watch it – it’s one of the better political shows on TV.

    Speaking of atheism, is there an atheist out there that makes arguments that you consider to be intellectually stimulating? I am just curious.

  30. Eric in Chicago says

    October 4, 2010 at 1:08 pm - October 4, 2010

    That’s because you clowns bring it on yourselves with your STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE. Maybe if you nominated some SANE people for a change instead of these wingnuts, he would make fun of Democrats more.

    Much like Plan 9 From Outer Space, this Titan of Intellect’s comments are so bereft of anytyhing resembling reality, I’m actually at a loss as to whether or not he actually exists outside the fevered imagination of some frothing, under-achieving screenwriter.

    But then I tune in to MSNBC for a few uncomfortable minutes each night, and I’m reassured that self-absorbed fops like our friend above are indeed real, and will be in need of effectual, fervent grief counseling come next month.

  31. V the K says

    October 4, 2010 at 1:24 pm - October 4, 2010

    I dunno, Eric. How intellectually vacant do you have to be to enjoy being shouted at by Ed Schultz, lectured by Keith Olbermann, and then condescended to by Rachel Maddow?

  32. Eric in Chicago says

    October 4, 2010 at 1:55 pm - October 4, 2010

    …and then told to “buck up” and quit being such a lazy, spoiled child by Teh iWon. 🙂

  33. Proud Liberal says

    October 4, 2010 at 4:36 pm - October 4, 2010

    Much like Plan 9 From Outer Space, this Titan of Intellect’s comments are so bereft of anytyhing resembling reality, I’m actually at a loss as to whether or not he actually exists outside the fevered imagination of some frothing, under-achieving screenwriter.

    But then I tune in to MSNBC for a few uncomfortable minutes each night, and I’m reassured that self-absorbed fops like our friend above are indeed real, and will be in need of effectual, fervent grief counseling come next month.

    Maybe you can loan me some of your meds, honey. Oh wait, I’m allergic to Oxy-Contin. BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Heliotrope says

    October 4, 2010 at 6:32 pm - October 4, 2010

    Levi,

    I had a choice between George Bush and Al Gore in 2000 and George Bush and John Kerry in 2004 and John McCain and Barack Obama in 2008. Bush, Bush and McCain are not my idea of solid, fiscally conservative Presidents. In fact, I would color them as Democrat-lite government bloat compromisers.

    Gore, Kerry and Obama are each stuffed shirts with substantial identity problems. I would never vote for such a skewed personality be the President, be he Republican or Democrat. I would stay home before I would pull the lever for such a candidate. So, I spent my votes on the Republicans with plenty of reservations. But, in no way do I buy any of the blather about Bush/Cheney/Rove as war criminals and the chatter that you have brought to the comments in the past. You progressives are just delusional with your Bush Derangement Syndrome. I appreciate that you are not satisfied with you Obamessiah. Perhaps you can chance to understand that Republicans did not stand in drooling rapture for everything Bush did.

    Bill Maher is a “personality” whore with very little substance. If you find him funny, good for you. Some conservatives play in his sand box for their own reasons. Certainly, Andrew Breitbart is capable of giving as good as he gets. But throwing pies is not high art nor is everyone cut out for food fights. Frankly, I prefer political slapstick done by intelligent and responsible people.

    Speaking of atheism, is there an atheist out there that makes arguments that you consider to be intellectually stimulating?

    That is a really revealing question. I can respect a person who says “I am an atheist.” But beyond that point, the atheist is attacking religion. So, no, there is no compelling atheist argument. All of those arguments distill down to how stupid “believers” are and how much more enlightened the atheist is.

    Since I do not harangue you about your disgust for religious belief, I do not begin to understand why I should sit by while you berate my intelligence. Clear?

  35. Heliotrope says

    October 4, 2010 at 6:44 pm - October 4, 2010

    Levi,

    Much of the Republican base is in the TEA Party, but there a whole lot of conservative leaning Democrats and independents in the TEA Party. Also, there is country club Republican crowd and the professional Republican pols like Hatch, Graham, old Trent Lott who do not like the “purity” of the TEA Party philosophy.

    I understand people like you who favor state socialism and massive government as social justice referee. But, perhaps you can manage to understand that there are lots of Americans who want to fix the country without a socialist/communist revolution.

  36. Sebastian Shaw says

    October 4, 2010 at 7:09 pm - October 4, 2010

    Proud Liberal, you’re living the past. Rush Limbaugh is no longer an addict; therefore, you need to get your horrible jokes at least up to date. Limbaugh is skinny now, married, & he’s far happier than you. Start with this premise than perhaps your joke may be funny, but I doubt it. Obviously, you listen to Rush Limbaugh about as much as Katie Couric’s colon.

  37. Eric Olsen says

    October 4, 2010 at 7:32 pm - October 4, 2010

    Maybe you can loan me some of your meds, honey. Oh wait, I’m allergic to Oxy-Contin. BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Seriously…this is a hoot.

    I’m being taunted by an absolute schmuck.

    Lesson to be learned: Being gay doesn’t necessarily confer taste and style – those are a privilege, sweetheart, not a right.

    Someone please be so kind as to let the twinks know that.

  38. The_Livewire says

    October 4, 2010 at 8:21 pm - October 4, 2010

    Well Levi’s fellow socialists like Stalin and Mao are Atheists. Perhaps all those millions they slaughtered are found their ‘arguments intellectually stimulating’.

  39. Heliotrope says

    October 5, 2010 at 1:04 pm - October 5, 2010

    After I read this …. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/05/the_molly_norris_precedent.html …. I got to thinking about the KOS Kids, Bill Maher and the Daily Beast. Now, just suppose some clever basement computer nerd photoshopped Bill Maher holding a cartoon of Mohammed and caused Maher to try to talk his way out of a fatwah.

    The point is that Maher is a typical sunshine bully. He only hits people who don’t hit back. What better group to pee on than those committed to turn the other cheek. The Islamic fundamentalist nazis are not going to give Maher any more of a pass than they gave Daniel Pearl. The religion of peace is funny that way. Really, really funny. Get it?

  40. Levi says

    October 5, 2010 at 8:37 pm - October 5, 2010

    I had a choice between George Bush and Al Gore in 2000 and George Bush and John Kerry in 2004 and John McCain and Barack Obama in 2008. Bush, Bush and McCain are not my idea of solid, fiscally conservative Presidents. In fact, I would color them as Democrat-lite government bloat compromisers.

    Gore, Kerry and Obama are each stuffed shirts with substantial identity problems. I would never vote for such a skewed personality be the President, be he Republican or Democrat. I would stay home before I would pull the lever for such a candidate. So, I spent my votes on the Republicans with plenty of reservations. But, in no way do I buy any of the blather about Bush/Cheney/Rove as war criminals and the chatter that you have brought to the comments in the past. You progressives are just delusional with your Bush Derangement Syndrome. I appreciate that you are not satisfied with you Obamessiah. Perhaps you can chance to understand that Republicans did not stand in drooling rapture for everything Bush did.

    While it’s swell that lots of you can go and on about how disappointed you were with Bush, years after the votes had been cast and he’s out of office – I notice that pretty much the only thing you criticize him about is spending. Which maybe is just barely in the top ten of reasons why he was a terrible President. Most conservatives still love this war – the stupidest in this country’s history – and while I believe you’ve said that you had your reservations about that war as well, you also don’t think he was ever dishonest when he was pitching the endeavor to the American people. I just don’t know what to do with that. In one breath, you’ll go from railing against the government and asserting it’s nothing but a corrupt bunch of liars and charlatans, to insisting that George Bush was always completely truthful about what he and his administration were saying in the run-up to war in Iraq, again, one of the biggest screw-ups in American history. You ever scrutinizing, small-government conservatives sure are consistent, aren’t ya?

    Bill Maher is a “personality” whore with very little substance. If you find him funny, good for you. Some conservatives play in his sand box for their own reasons. Certainly, Andrew Breitbart is capable of giving as good as he gets. But throwing pies is not high art nor is everyone cut out for food fights. Frankly, I prefer political slapstick done by intelligent and responsible people.

    I never said I consider it high art, but it’s immeasurably better than what passes for political debate shows on the other networks, dependent on the guests.

    That is a really revealing question. I can respect a person who says “I am an atheist.” But beyond that point, the atheist is attacking religion. So, no, there is no compelling atheist argument. All of those arguments distill down to how stupid “believers” are and how much more enlightened the atheist is.

    Since I do not harangue you about your disgust for religious belief, I do not begin to understand why I should sit by while you berate my intelligence. Clear?

    Wait – how does that work? An atheist is inherently attacking religion, and therefore, there is no compelling atheist argument? You’re telling me that by the very process of criticizing and scrutinizing religious claims, atheists are instantly undermining the credibility and validity of their arguments?

    A few days ago, you were complaining about people being too politically correct. Well, in this day and age, there is literally nothing more politically incorrect than being an atheist and talking about it. Your religion probably wasn’t on your mind when you made those statements, huh? But don’t worry, I get it. When you’ve fallen so hard for Jesus as it is clear that you have, interacting with people that haven’t kind of breaks the spell for you a little bit, right?

    And don’t worry about me, if you’d like to harangue me about my disgust for religious belief, I would love for you to do that. I’m all about dragging the argument into religious territory whenever you feel like, if you haven’t noticed.

  41. Heliotrope says

    October 5, 2010 at 11:13 pm - October 5, 2010

    Levi,

    Read my lips: My faith in God is not your concern. If you are happy with spiritual void and no soul, I have no quarrel with you. What is there to argue: how stupid I am or how stupid you are? That is not an argument, it is an attack.

    I believe in the unknown mystery stuff and you don’t. You can not “prove” my unknown mystery stuff does not exist and I can not prove that it does. You believe in the logical mechanics of science as the proof and creation of everything. Until the last mystery is solved, there is still room for my primitive, naive clutching at my Bible and my guns. Right? Just be patient, hot shot, surely everything will work out with perfect scientific proof which translates into immutable, demonstrable fact. Now explain to me again about the adaptation of finches and their beaks. You do have the complete chain of fossil evidence and the Darwin is God institute is working on forcing beak adaptation on a finch strain that should begin to show up within a hundred years, right? Or do you still just take it all on ….. ….. ….. ….. (faith). By the way, are there any strains of humans who are evolving into apes? Or is evolution a one way street only?

    An atheist is not inherently doing anything. He attacks religion or he just goes about his soul-free existence. If he chooses to mock me, I choose to ignore him. He can not understand religious faith, so what is there for me to say? If he places his faith in socialist and communist committee government, I disagree with him, but, hey, he is like any other fundamentalist who is not persuaded by the evidence.

    Which leads me to one of the great conceits of all time. Atheists have been railing at people of religion for thousands of years. Somehow, the great awareness of the league of atheists has done a pitiful job of weaning mankind off the “opiate” of religion. You would think that the exceedingly brilliant atheists would have the perfect answers by this time.

    For the umpteenth time, for George Bush to have been such a successful liar means that he brilliantly conned the whole government and the governments of the Western world starting in the early years of the Clinton administration. What a bunch of dummies that makes of the Democrats. Except Obama who voted against the war before he was in the Senate.

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