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At Current Pace, US Won’t Recover Jobs Until 2020

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Hopeandchange, folks…. Hopeandchange.

This is the whole that Obama Democrats’ One Trillion Stimulus has dug for our nation and our future generations. Not even a short-term gain for the pain. Just pain all around. Pathetic.

How’s is this NOT a Depression, again? Remind me, please.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Comments

  2. The streets of utopia are lined with unemployed citizens cheering the emperor. This is no big thing. People will forget they are out of work and their taxes have soared. The little people have short memories.

    Besides, consider this: How do you think the average person is going to react to evil Republicans pushing them back into the work force?

  7. Auntie Dogma: Who has been President the last 20 months and, during that time, prevented recovery and in every way made things worse?

    Do try to have an original thought sometime, dearie. Bush also inherited a recession, the Clinton dot-com bomb. Surely your memory isn’t so short as to have forgotten that? What matters is not whether the President inherits a bus that happens to be pointed in the wrong direction, but his efforts to right it. Obama has not only failed to right the bus, he has stepped on the accelerator. Don’t look because reality might frighten you too much, but we are heading off the cliff about, oh, now. Commodity prices are serving as an early indicator of what Obama has put in store for himself, and sadly all of us, the coming 2 years.

  8. Auntie Dogma, stop blaming President Bush. President Obama’s big government Marxist politicies–Porkulus, ObamaCare, Crap & Tax through the EPA regulations, bypassing Congress, etc al–has been disastrous for private job creation. Ignoring this reality is alot like ignoring a shark nipping at your feet.

  9. It’s interesting, the Bush unemployment of 5 -6 % no longer seems so bad compared to the horrific 9-10% of the liberal socialists. Ditto with the debt. And now the “us vs them” retoric of the Obamaites blow up the myth of bringing us together.

  13. It’s Obama and the Obamacrats that are voting to inflict Big Government and Big Deficits on all of us. So, instead playing this stupid “But Bush” game, why don’t you Obamacrats tell us what’s so great about Obama’s spending, and why it is preferable to austerity and fiscal discipline. Also, explain why higher taxes are preferable to lower taxes. You might start by explaining why taking economic freedom from taxpayers and transferring to politicians and bureaucrats is a good thing. Because we on the right don’t believe that, and we don’t understand why you do when all of the evidence is to the contrary.

  15. Actually Mike, John Boehner had been DECREASING the deficit, and according to the nonpartisan GAO, had it on track to be ELIMINATED by 2010.

    That was until Democrats took over in January 2007. Their first budget tripled the deficit to an all time high, and they withheld it from President Bush, so that he couldn’t veto it — an absolutely unheard of political maneuver — believing that Obama would be elected and would sign it. He did.

    And their SECOND budget QUADRUPLED that record busting budget.

    Honestly, your talking points are so ignorant they really are laughable. Try to learn the facts so you dont make such an ass of yourself.

  19. This posting, with that graph, must be intended for gullible people. There is no legitimate point in projecting today’s anemic rate of job growth out for ten years. Only the gullible would believe that this represents a reasonable ten-year forecast.

    If anything, the fact that there is now any growth at all should be seen as a success rather than a failure of the Obama administration. You people want to conveniently ignore that the economy was already plummeting off a cliff when Obama became president.

    It should also be noted that both the housing bubble and the subsequent economic collapse were not confined to the USA. In an interconnected world you are imagining an American president has far more power over the economy than he really does. But I get it – the entire mission is to destroy Obama at any cost.

    And as far as jobs are concerned, I would expect you to be applauding the loss of all those state and local government jobs. That is a victory for smaller government advocates, isn’t it? And, by the way, I too would like to see an orderly trimming of government spending, and employment with their grandiose pension benefits.

  20. I just want to know why you think it will take that long. I mean he’ll have enough working for the IRS, Energy Dept, Education Dept, et al to get the economy just HUMMING along. Right???

  21. Hi! Richard R: I are a gullible persons. Like you don’t, I are not sure that the US will recover and maybe the present rate are going to flatline worse than Obambi’s approval ratings.

    Furthermore, I would like to add in addition that you are right about how our housing bubble screwed over the entire world. You am a asstute person and not gullible like me.

    By the way, where are the big government worker layoffs? I would like to send them a Hallmark card for being patriotic like Joe Biden told me to be patriotic and cough up huge hockers of extra taxes. I did not do it because I are gullible.

  23. If anything, the fact that there is now any growth at all should be seen as a success rather than a failure of the Obama administration.

    I’m sorry, what was the success threshold during the Bush administration? I believe the Obama Party insisted than anything less than half a million jobs a month was a complete and total failure.

    In an interconnected world you are imagining an American president has far more power over the economy than he really does.

    I’m sorry, who did Obama blame the bad economy on?

    “We are not standing on the brink of recession because of forces beyond our control,” Obama told a town hall forum in Austin. “This was not an inevitable part of the business cycle. It was a failure of leadership in Washington — a Washington where George Bush hands out billions of tax cuts to the wealthiest few for eight long years, and John McCain promises to make those same tax cuts permanent, embracing the central principle of the Bush economic program.”

    That’s right, they insisted that it was all Bush’s fault, that everything that went wrong with the economy was Bush’s doing, and that Bush could fix the economy at will.

    Now they are screaming that Obama has no power, that Obama can’t fix things, and that Obama cannot be held responsible for anything.

    Richard Rush, answer this question: how was Bush, who you claim was an idiot, so all-powerful over the economy and can be held responsible for everything that ever happens, and how is it that Obama, who you claim is so much smarter, has no power whatsoever and cannot be held responsible for anything that happens?

    Poor black Obama. So incompetent, so stupid, that he cannot meet the basic standards to which his racist party holds white males like Bush.

  25. NDT please stop the “black Obama” bullshit. I am sure you have some wingbat reason for using it, and I am sure it probably makes perfect sense to all the other insular righties in the blogging world…but its highly offensive.

  26. “How’s is this NOT a Depression, again? Remind me, please.”

    I’ll be happy to remind you – Its not a depression because of Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of disaster.

    Obama came in, stopped the recession, passed a health care plan that will cut the deficit (compared the status quo he inherited) He has a plan to end the long term unfunded liabilities of Afghanistan and Iraq, and wants to reduce the unfunded tax cuts. Sounds pretty good to me.

    Hopefully in Nov the country will realize that it will take some time undo the 8 years of incompetency that occurred under republican leadership…

  27. but its highly offensive.

    Who is it with the problem?

    Its not a depression

    Tell that to the People’s Economist Paul Krugman. Oh and let David Rosenberg know that you am smarter. I think you got your talking points crossed.

    passed a health care plan that will cut the deficit (compared the status quo he inherited)

    Then why are the liberals who signed it not talking about those claims anymore? I think you got your talking points crossed. Oh, and the “status quo” was falling deficits from 2004 on until the liberals f*ked us over with more spending.

    He has a plan to end the long term unfunded liabilities of Afghanistan and Iraq,

    No plan for victory, eh? And I’ve yet to see a liberal how you have “unfunded” wars.

    and wants to reduce the unfunded tax cuts.

    How do you have “unfunded tax cuts”? Further, what about unfunded Medicare? What about unfunded Socialist Stupidity? What about unfunded porkulus? What about unfunded union bailouts? What about unfunded ObamaCareless?

    Sounds pretty good to me.

    If only you knew what the hell you were talking about, right?

  28. gillie spouted the following:
    “passed a health care plan that will cut the deficit (compared the status quo he inherited)”

    oops

    Now, based on past behaviour gillie will now put on his Brave Sir Robin hat and run away.

    Especially since we can always point out his eagerness to post accusations w/o proof as part of his pattern of behaviour.

    Anything more to say, gillie? I have your greatest hits one google search away.

  29. #26: “Hopefully in Nov the country will realize that it will take some time undo the 8 years of incompetency that occurred under republican leadership…”

    Yeah, gillie, you sound really optimistic that that is going to happen. Actually, what’s really happening (whether you acknowledge it or not) is that Americans have had enough of the vile elitists you helped to elect and can’t wait to hit the polls on November 2nd so that on the morning of November 3rd we can start rolling back THE PAST TWO YEARS of profound incompetence, generational theft, and anti-US foreign policy that is practiced by the Democratic Party.

    Wake up, gillie, and please start feeling miserable about the fact that the Left has PEAKED and it’s all downhill from here. Obama has irrevocably damaged the progressive “brand” and it will be at least another 40-50 years before the liberals have the kind of power in DC that they squandered in 2009.

  30. Sean what exactly are repubs going to cut? The military? Medicare? Soc. Sec? Education?
    You and I both know there is a reason repubs hace no specfic plan. All you have is rage

  31. I’ll be happy to remind you – Its not a depression because of Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of disaster.

    And here is a list of other miracles worked by The Won in full transparency:

    1) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of nuclear disaster.

    2) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of race riots and civil war.

    3) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of famine.

    4) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of overdue library books.

    5) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of free market capitalism.

    6) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of halitosis spreading among kitty cats.

    7) Obama and his work to bring us back from the brink of recovery.

    You see, when proving a negative, all you have to do is make the claim.

    Thank you, Obama, thank you, thank you, thank you, you have kept me from swallowing myself whole and you have kept my belly button from coming untied and you have kept the dead people in the cemetery instead of dancing on the ceiling of my bedroom. Oh, thank you, Barack Hussein Obama, mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm, mmmmmmm.

    Meanwhile, in a hidden bunker, Bush/Cheney are planning a swarm of locusts.

  32. How’s is this NOT a Depression, again? Remind me, please.

    Because Obama is black. Therefore, it has to be a spectacular economic recovery, with any bumpy parts blamed solely on whitey, aka Bush.

    NDT please stop the “black Obama” bullshit. I am sure you have some wingbat reason for using it, and I am sure it probably makes perfect sense to all the other insular righties in the blogging world…but its highly offensive.

    Why, gillie? After all, that was the only reason you and your fellow racists gave for voting for Obama — that he was black — and your insistence that he was never wrong because he was black.

    What you’ve done that really scares the shit out of you, gillie, is to make it clear that your skin-color-based standards have nothing to do with real life performance. You put millions of Americans out of work and jacked up our debt to catastrophic levels because you picked someone on the basis of skin color.

    Own it and deal with it.

  33. Sean what exactly are repubs going to cut? The military? Medicare? Soc. Sec? Education?

    First, Medicare; Republicans need only eliminate the $60 BILLION dollars fraud annually that the Obama Party has allowed to take place in Medicare.

    Second, education; The US spends 4.8% of its annual GDP on education, but is soundly beaten in output by countries like South Korea (3.8%) and Japan (3.5%) who spend far less. This is due to the vast and bloated inefficiencies created by leftist “teachers’ unions”, which prevent bad teachers from being fired and insist that teachers who have been proven incompetent be paid their full salaries.

    By the way, if one holds annual GDP to be $14 trillion dollars, getting our education efficiency to that of South Korea’s would trim $130 BILLION dollars annually from government spending.

    That’s nearly $200 billion right there, and we’re not even trying. All of it is excess spending by the government on fraud and incompetence.

    But notice how gillie and his Obama Party DO NOT WANT TO CUT THOSE COSTS. They want billions wasted on Medicare fraud and on educational incompetence. Why? Because that is their base profiting on those things.

    You and I both know there is a reason repubs hace no specfic plan. All you have is rage

    I’ve just given you one. What is your black Obama going to cut, gillie? Your whine about how Obamacare will reduce costs has been shown by the government’s own calculations to be a lie.

    That’s right, you don’t have anything. You just think Obama’s black skin insulates him from criticism.

  34. #30: “Sean what exactly are repubs going to cut? The military? Medicare? Soc. Sec? Education? You and I both know there is a reason repubs hace no specfic plan. All you have is rage”

    gillie, just because you’ve been trained like a seal to call the GOP the “party of no” and claim that “they have no plan” to do anything differently than the fat-cat socialists currently infesting the beltway doesn’t mean that there is no plan and that no proposals have been made. The GOP has offered reasonable alternatives to every catastrophic policy the Left and rammed through Congress and they have been IGNORED. Then, the scumbag President himself holds press conferences and has the fu*king nerve to say, “all they do is complain,” “they want me to fail,” “what would you Tea Partiers do to fix things, huh?” The Democrats have been lying for two years and just pretending that the GOP and/or the Tea Parties have proposed nothing and that is what you’re doing now. So, take your “you don’t have a plan, only rage” bullsh*t and shove it.

    As for your ridiculous question, “what would you cut?” clearly, your position is that there simply isn’t a penny of federal spending that can be eliminated. That kind of feigned powerlessness on your part just confirms why authoritarian regimes are always making inroads in once-free nations. YOU WOULD BE HAPPIER AS A SERF WITH SOMEONE IN CHARGE OF YOUR EVERY ACTION. If you actually buy the Left’s claim that every penny of federal spending is essential and that the government cannot be made to sacrifice a single dollar of our taxes (and furthermore must milk us of EVEN MORE), then you really don’t think much of yourself, do you? You have obviously conceded that the left-wing millionaires in Washington REALLY DO know what’s best for you. It’s beyond pathetic. In fact, it’s really hard for me to accept that people like you actually exist. I don’t have children, but if I did, you’re the kind of person I would not allow them to be around. I wouldn’t want them tainted by your sickening worldview that some individuals just get to be in charge and the rest of us just get to do what we’re told. You’re a model “useful idiot” and a menace to free society. What would you be doing if you weren’t spending your days searching desperately for the next big charismatic power-hungry left-wing charlatan so that you can fall in love with him, cloak him with infallibility, hand over your liberty, and devote yourself to licking his ball-sac 24/7?

    I’ll leave you with something that I’m sure you weren’t informed of over at KOS: this week the Social Security Administration sent 89,000 stimulus payments of $250 each to dead and incarcerated people (48,000 of which cannot be retrieved because the stimulus package didn’t include a provision authorizing the SSA to try to retrieve funds that were mistakenly sent out). I’m sure you only heard about the “report” issued by the White House and praised by that imbecile Joe Biden which concluded that the distribution of Stimulus funds has been the model of efficiency and accuracy (shocker).

    Yeah, gillie, there’s really nothing we can do about the spending in DC. CLEARLY, they know what they are doing and wouldn’t dream of allowing waste to occur. If they could cut a single penny, I’m sure they would do the right thing and issue a refund to the American people. Now run along—I’m sure Obama’s nuts need your immediate, adoring attention.

  35. Simply cutting back spending to FY2008 levels, as John Boehner and others have proposed, would immediately cut the deficit by 700 Billion dollars over Obama’s proposed FY2011 budget.

    So, are any of you lefties going to argue that the USA needs $700 Billion more Government today than was needed three years ago?

  38. Thirty years ago, public employees made significantly less then private ones. As well they ought to. It was called “public service” back then – not “public moneymaking”.

    Today, public employees on average make more than their private sector counterparts. Step 2 of any proposal – after V the K’s step 1 – should be to be sure that all public employee salaries and benefits are cut by 20%, just to move them toward parity with the private sector. (Except active-duty military. Those guys are still underpaid.) That would save some hundreds of billions more.

  40. Levi, the deficit problem is due to the Porkulus, ObamaCare, & Congress rasing the debt limit among other terrible things. As a result of the out of control Obama Democrats, the monthly debt is equal to President Bush’s annual deficit!

  41. Levi, the deficit problem is due to the Porkulus, ObamaCare, & Congress rasing the debt limit among other terrible things. As a result of the out of control Obama Democrats, the monthly debt is equal to President Bush’s annual deficit!

    How is it a problem? How does the government spending $1 trillion hurt the economy and increase unemployment? You guys are making a lot of accusations without explaining any of them.

  42. How is it a problem? How does the government spending $1 trillion hurt the economy and increase unemployment?

    Because, Levi, every single last cent of that $1 trillion has to be taken out of the hands of someone who is actually working and earning it.

    And when you are taking money OUT away from those in the US economy who are producing it and spending it on teaching people in Africa to wash their genitals, that money is being essentially burned.

  43. You guys are making a lot of accusations without explaining any of them.

    By the way, Levi, according to your black Obama, who screamed on the Sunday talk shows yesterday that everyone is guilty until they provide evidence to prove their innocence, we can make all the accusations we want without providing proof or an explanation, and then, when pressed, demand that the accused prove otherwise.

    Please feel free to state that your black Obama is wrong and that making accusations requires proof. But that is WAY beyond a racist such as yourself, so we’ll expect nothing but silence.

  44. How does the government spending $1 trillion hurt the economy and increase unemployment?

    I and others have explained it in many comments. Some of them were even answers to Levi. I find no reason to answer Levi again. You can lead an ass to water, but he must want to drink.

  45. Sean what exactly are repubs going to cut?

    How about Chairman Obama live up to his oft repeated campaign promises of a net spending cut?

    How about we cut the president’s non-essential travel budget? Go2Meeting is a helluva lot cheaper.

    Do we really need to pay him $19,000 for an “entertainment” account? Does anybody really know what that’s for?

    How come libs want corporate CEOs to work for free (fairness), but not the president?

    How about we eliminate all the redundant departments and job positions? Does anybody really know how many there are?

    How about we put Pelosi’s ass on a commercial flight in coach? If she wants to fly on a private jet, she may do so as long as she open her own damn wallet.

    How about we let the people decide what to do with their retirement instead of funding a Ponzi Scheme?

    I can go on, if you want.

  47. The article that this originated in states that the peak for the “2007” red line was December 2007. Obama took office in January 2009, at which point the drop-off was in full swing according to this chart – indeed over half way to the bottom, and it reached bottom or near bottom about eight months after he took office. You may call it pathetic, but it looks to me like maybe he stemmed the bloodletting. Or I guess that’s what you might call an inconvenient truth. Hardly pathetic. Seems like the title “pathetic” might be more appropriately applied to what knocked us off the cliff in the first place.