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Obama Evolving on Gay Marriage or Pandering for the Gay Vote?

When Bruce e-mailed me a link to a tweet he had received on the president’s first sit down interview with gay media, I wrote back quickly saying, that the Democrat must “really must be fearing that he’s losing the gay vote”. And sure enough, following the link a few hours later, I read this on AMERICAblogGay’s Twitter page:

RT @chrislhayes: Note to WH: Just a thought, might be a good idea to communicate directly to your base *before* the last week of a campaign

The reports we’ve been reading about a dispirited gay base may well be more than just reports.

Now comes word that in that interview, he said his views on gay marriage were “evolving.”  And the cynic in me wondered if it was that he was evolving on gay marriage, but that he was pandering to the gay community, recalling how so many rushed back to Bill Clinton even after he broke his promise on repealing the ban on gays serving in the military and, in the dead of the night, signed the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

With the rise of the blogosphere and Chris Hayes’ comment above, I don’t think as many gays are eager to return to the Democrats’ embrace as they were in the 1990s.  Chalk it up to experience.  And new media.



  1. I really hate to say it but, I think it will work. Hard core gay leftists (seems to be most) don’t need much encouragement or reality to go running to dems. I’m still amazed how many think that Obama’s official stance on gay marriage is that he is 100% for it.

    I wonder if there will be any exit polls on gay support for democrats this election.

    Comment by Nathan — October 28, 2010 @ 2:13 am - October 28, 2010

  2. I wonder when he’s going to “evolve” on taxpayer bailouts for union cronies, taxes, spending, debt, deficit, unemployment, Iran, etc.

    Gay libs are the left’s bitch. They’ll come running home when called. They always do.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — October 28, 2010 @ 3:27 am - October 28, 2010

  3. […] The President’s views on gay marriage are evolving. […]

    Pingback by Our Hero! — October 28, 2010 @ 6:42 am - October 28, 2010

  4. As crass as I think Obama’s latest posturing is, like Nathan, I’m keeping my fingers crossed that races aren’t tipped in his favor because of this. And while I’m loathe to suggest it, if even the clueless Dumocrats are finally aware the damage to their prospects they court by blowing off the gay vote, future Tea Party candidates might do well to do some advertising targeted at this demographic to minimize the very prevalent attitude that every last hetero Tea Party member want to see gays bashed and marginalized. Unfortunately, many of the left gay bloggers and organizations are making a concerted effort to spread this message in the final weeks.

    There needs to be more people saying what Dan and Bruce having been saying all year on this blog and more statements and columns from Tammy Bruce’s colleagues supporting what she said in the Guardian piece.

    Most importantly, there needs to be efforts for gay conservatives to reach out to the youth, especially since there is now a It’s Get Better video made by members of the DNC making the rounds on YouTube and the blogs.

    I understand the sneering we’re doing about how pathetic it is that so many on the Gay Left are willing to put aside all the hurts the Obama Administration has inflicted on them to blindly vote for them again. But there needs to be efforts on the conservative side’s part to get the message out to both adult voters betrayed by Obama and our next generation. The benefits to us is that we can further dilute the influence wielded by the professional evangelical haters and show our ability in adding votes to the campaigns we support and hopefully in the long run, have a US government that brings back opportunity to everyone and heals the economy. While this election cycle is almost over, there is still a golden opportunity over the next two years.

    Comment by PopArt — October 28, 2010 @ 6:52 am - October 28, 2010

  5. He’s always said he opposes gay marriage, so I’m not sure why anyone on the left thinks he’s for it. It’s a mystery to me, but maybe it’s the same deafness that caused them not to hear him say that Afghanistan was the “just war” and that while his goal was single-payer health care, he’d take the slower, ten to twenty year approach.

    Likewise, so many people in the middle and on the right failed to hear him say that he wanted to spread their wealth around and on and on. Granted, he doesn’t tell the truth very often, so maybe that’s why so many people dismiss what he says.

    I’m sure you all know about HillBuzz, but they’ve definitely left the democrats for good. And at least one has come out as a conservative (yay!).

    Comment by Fuzzy — October 28, 2010 @ 6:53 am - October 28, 2010

  6. Oh, and good point, PopArt, there really should be a concerted effort on the part of conservatives, particularly the Tea Party, to reach out to gay conservatives. Likewise, we should be reaching out to blacks, Latinos, and other minorities who actually share many of our values . . . but have been duped and lied to incessantly by the left that we’re all RAAACIST. Dems have spend decades putting people into little, isolated, easily-managed groups (women, gays, blacks, hispanics, etc.), and it’s time that we pulled this nation together, breaking through those artificial barriers designed only to keep us all from talking to one another and getting our act together as Americans, one and all.

    Comment by Fuzzy — October 28, 2010 @ 7:00 am - October 28, 2010

  7. The term I use is ‘kicked puppies’ PopArt. The left groups are like that poor abused puppy who listens to the kind words, gets close enough for a kick, then comes back again, because they think the attention is ‘love’.

    Comment by The_Livewire — October 28, 2010 @ 9:28 am - October 28, 2010

  8. Dan, that’s an easy answer: Obama’s pandering.

    The Obamas couldn’t name a single gay couple they had as friends before the bid for the WH began. They could name bomb-throwing radicals (tres chic, no?)… they could name fire-brimstone racist baiting Reverends as friends… they could even name a jihadist or two muslims who they were sympathetic toward but not a single gay couple.

    Maybe instead of getting the Obamas a dog, Teddy K should have loaned them some of his gay friends from the Cape. God knows, the gays would have heeled better than the dog… and learned more tricks.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — October 28, 2010 @ 10:42 am - October 28, 2010

  9. Fitting with the post… current Yahoo! headline:

    Obama says his stance against gay marriage may change

    You know, if I were a gay lefty that would totally inspire me to start supporting the Democrats again. ‘May’. What a powerful endorsement the word ‘may’ is.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — October 28, 2010 @ 10:58 am - October 28, 2010

  10. @ILoveCap: Well, remember that Obama is about both HOPE and change so he’s essentially saying to his gay lapdogs that if they only just hope and hope and hope and hope and hope until their brains burst out of their heads enough, than well there MAY be a 51% chance of him CHANGING his mind. But up to now it’s been all the gay supporters faults because when they should have just continued Wishing and Hoping like they were told to, they deviated from the script and actually had the nerve to EXPECT change. That’s NOT how Obama’s alleged mind works. He’ll do windows before he does expectations. His intent with dropping by the meeting was to have the bloggers spread the word that we are free to go back to the blissful state of perpetual hope and leave him in peace to continue ignoring us until 2012 and making Dan Choi voodoo dolls.

    Comment by PopArt — October 28, 2010 @ 11:40 am - October 28, 2010

  11. Certainly one’s opinions can evolve (hopefully through a process of rational contemplation), but a week before the election? Gimme a break. And the president’s contribution to “It gets better” rings all the more hollow given his inaction on DADT, DOMA, and his own ‘feelings’ about equal marriage. Can a young gay person, one who envisions a career in the military or who dreams of sharing a life with a future spouse and a marriage equal to those of straights, take his words seriously?

    Comment by Anthony — October 28, 2010 @ 12:30 pm - October 28, 2010

  12. “My views on gay marriage are ‘evolving’ …IF you know what I mean, and I think you do” (*wink* hand out, palm up, rubbing thumb across fingers)


    Holy cow it must suck to be a “victim”.

    Comment by American Elephant — October 28, 2010 @ 1:48 pm - October 28, 2010

  13. President Obama along with the whole Obama Admnistration is a pure political animal; therefore, Obama has nothing to ground him save his feet of clay he ignores when he thinks he’s a god. Hubris, arrogance, ignorance, & avarice is all Obama has which is another word for nothing.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — October 28, 2010 @ 5:51 pm - October 28, 2010

  14. Even if Obama’s position on gay marriage did “evolve,” it probably would not be in a direction I would like. It would involve more condescending, patronizing, paternalistic government intervention in our lives.

    The government is over-involved in marriage — and in citizens’ private lives — as it is. What the gay left is really asking it to do is meddle even more than it does already.

    For gay libs, this is all about validation. Daddy Barack needs to make us feel good by acknowledging us. They are brokenhearted that he has been so cold and hasn’t felt our pain.

    Yuck. Just yuck.

    Comment by Lori Heine — October 28, 2010 @ 6:03 pm - October 28, 2010

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