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On the shooting of Congresswoman Giffords

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 12:00 am - January 9, 2011.
Filed under: 112th Congress,National Politics

It is not the time nor the place to make political hay out of the shooting yesterday of U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ).  House Speaker John Boehner appropriately condemned it:

I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country.

It is indeed a sad day for our country.  Like the Speaker, our prayers are with the Congresswoman.  May she have a speedy recovery and return to work in short order. 

Details are trickling in about the creep who shot her.  May he be speedily brought to trial and punished to the maximum extent allowed by law.

He seems to be quite a troubled young man.  According to the Daily Caller, “On his YouTube page, he listed Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto among his favorite books.”

Our thoughts and our prayers today are with the families of those people he murdered in cold blood.   And our prayers and our hopes are with the injured.

UPDATE:  Via Glenn Reynolds:  “EVEN MORE: His name’s Jared Lee Loughner and he seems like a garden variety nut:”

Among his long list of favorite books in his YouTube profile are Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha.

Loughner also “favorited” just one video on YouTube, which shows the burning of an American flag and is accompanied by an anti-government screed.

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  1. Oh, and even better?

    “Libhomo” is making these same comments on Rob’s own blog.

    libhomo says:
    January 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    These shootings are Sarah Palin’s fault. There can be no honest doubt on this one.

    The really entertaining part is that, while “libhomo” is posting this – without a single of Rob’s commenters or Rob himself disagreeing — Rob is over in another thread, spinning wildly in the comments section to explain why everything’s OK when the Obama Party does it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 9, 2011 @ 11:13 pm - January 9, 2011

  2. And one more thing, Rob:

    You are over here on a thread whining about your integrity being impugned when you and your fellow gays and lesbians are condescendingly “conceding” that there is no proof or evidence of the crime that you have been claiming Sarah Palin, Republicans, and religious people committed for the past twenty-four hours.

    Again, you and your fellow gays and lesbians are accusing Sarah Palin, Republicans, and religious people of MURDER when you freely admit you haven’t a shred of evidence — and then whine that other people are “lying” about you.

    Clueless? Or epic-level selfishness and narcissism?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 9, 2011 @ 11:20 pm - January 9, 2011

  3. Oh, and Rob?

    Where were you when your fellow gays and lesbians were calling for Palin to be raped?

    And where were you when your fellow gays and lesbians were pointing rifles at pictures of her and her children and hanging her in effigy?

    So it’s not really the “rhetoric” that bothers you, is it? You’re just looking for a chance to blame something on Sarah Palin, just like your Obama told you to do.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 9, 2011 @ 11:30 pm - January 9, 2011

  4. Rob, considering that the more we learn about the assailant, the less likely it was that he was motivated in any way by Sarah Palin, you really ought to retract your post and apologize for jumping to conclusions and exploiting a tragedy to demonize your opposition. That would be the responsible, mature, and intellectually honest thing to do. Are you capable of doing that?

    Comment by V the K — January 9, 2011 @ 11:51 pm - January 9, 2011

  5. Oh, and let’s not forget how the Obama Party was upset that Sarah Palin didn’t die in a plane crash with Ted Stevens.

    And where was Rob Tisinai then? Nothing posted from him repudiating that.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 12:18 am - January 10, 2011

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  7. Glenn Reynolds phrased it beautifully:

    As with Mike Bloomberg’s immediate effort to blame the Times Square bombing attempt on the Tea Party, this swift reaction betrays their hope for an issue that could save Obama by defaming his opposition

    I guess “Raaaaaaaaayyysist!” hasn’t been effective enough, in shutting down opposition to the Dear Reader.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — January 10, 2011 @ 1:00 am - January 10, 2011

  8. Actually, V the K, there isn’t a single misstatement in the post of mine that ND30 linked to. The best you can do is say that I only presented one side, the sins of the conservatives, but I rectified that with a later post, and in fact put the damning information about Democrats in the headline, where no one could miss it.

    Meanwhile, I’ve pointed out ND30’s direct lies, and not even he cares enough to dispute it. That’s awfully sad.

    Comment by Rob Tisinai — January 10, 2011 @ 1:39 am - January 10, 2011

  9. Actually, Rob, the reason is because of what is being posted and supported over on your blog.

    Campbell says:
    January 9, 2011 at 4:40 am

    She’s a Dominionist and SHE BELIEVES IT. She expressed some very lukewarm words of obligated sympathy. You imagine she has a humanist heart, that she might reflect on this or her lack of reflection indicates denial on her part, That isnt the case. She sees this as all part of God’s plan to make the USA a Christian Theocracy. She just had a public spat with the Kennedy’s over her insistance of a “Faith Test” for all elected officials.

    And:

    libhomo says:
    January 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    These shootings are Sarah Palin’s fault. There can be no honest doubt on this one.

    Again, people on your blog are specifically blaming Sarah Palin, Republicans, and religious people, and you’re not saying a word; you’re just ironically over here trying to get other people to police their comments.

    In short, if you care so much about lies, how about policing them on your own site?

    Or is the problem here that you agree with those posters and don’t want to contradict them?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 1:58 am - January 10, 2011

  10. The Democrat/media cartel might have overplayed its hand on this one. Makes you wonder, why were they playing a hand in the first place? Were they really *that* desperate?

    Comment by JervisTetch — January 10, 2011 @ 2:03 am - January 10, 2011

  11. Oh, and Rob, why no comment on your Obama Party’s support of raping Sarah Palin, shooting Sarah Palin and hanging Sarah Palin in effigy, hoping Sarah Palin dies in a plane crash, and so forth?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 2:07 am - January 10, 2011

  12. if you [Rob] care so much about lies, how about policing them on your own site?

    NDT, good point.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — January 10, 2011 @ 2:30 am - January 10, 2011

  13. A very good point indeed, about the lying.

    And as long as honesty is the coin of the realm, lets admit that promoting the notion that this Loughner fellow saw a target symbol on a map and immediately, Naked Gun style, began robotically chanting “MUST. KILL. GABRIELLE. GIFFORDS.” is just plain asinine; and serves no purpose other than to exploit a tragedy to smear Sarah Palin.

    Comment by V the K — January 10, 2011 @ 6:02 am - January 10, 2011

  14. If a little graphic on a map gives you the vapors, what do you make of this: Civility in Left-Wing Political Discourse: A Retrospective.

    Comment by V the K — January 10, 2011 @ 6:15 am - January 10, 2011

  15. Seems accurate to me Rob, You’re accusing social conservatives of being the reason this nutjob shot people.

    I don’t see anywhere the links to the DCC targeting people.

    In fact I see you trying to claim in post 6 that it’s only Sarah Palin’s ad that’s responsible.

    I may be able to ‘rise above partisanship’ you seem to revel in it.

    Comment by The_Livewire — January 10, 2011 @ 4:12 pm - January 10, 2011

  16. […] ned only scan some of our critics’ commentary or Glenn Reynolds’s links to various left-wingers (or commentary thereon) to know that many […]

    Pingback by GayPatriot » Sarah Palin to blame for Arizona shooting? Show me the evidence. — January 10, 2011 @ 4:55 pm - January 10, 2011

  17. Really, livewire? If you’re looking for what I mention in comment 58, you’ll find it here: http://wakingupnow.com/blog/democrats-setting-up-targets

    This post does (as I promised in comment 58) “put the damning information about Democrats in the headline, where no one could miss it.”

    BTW, I don’t know what you mean by “post 6.”

    Meanwhile, I was hoping you’d be able to admit that ND30 is lying when he said I insisted:

    “a) Sarah Palin ordered the assassination of Gabrielle Giffords and b) the Republican Party should be suppressed and shut down by the government.”

    Neither of those are there (you can’t even get to point b with the wildest spin and extrapolation). Nor at any point did I even hint about blaming religious people, as ND30 claims.

    Now, if you can find the place where I said “the Republican Party should be suppressed and shut down by the government,” I’d be much obliged. Otherwise you have to admit it’s just ND30 up to his usual dishonesty.

    Comment by Rob Tisinai — January 10, 2011 @ 5:18 pm - January 10, 2011

  18. You mean you’re not Robtis?

    you aren’t pretending that Democrats don’t threaten to assault politicians? Or wish for them to get gang raped? Or burn down buildings?

    You like to pretend that this nutjob was familiar with this map. Maybe he was familiar with the concept of ‘punishing our enemies’ or following the President’s statements of pulling a gun?

    I’m sorry reality doesn’t match your expectations.

    Comment by The_Livewire — January 10, 2011 @ 6:20 pm - January 10, 2011

  19. Meanwhile, I’d like to point out that where the statement Rob is whining about was linked in the very first thread.

    It is by David Ehrenstein, an LA-based writer and gay activist who has worked with Rob Tisinai and his acquaintance Regan DuCasse, and it was posted on the site JoeMyGod, where Rob Tisinai was directing people for information.

    And the supreme irony here is that Rob Tisinai is screaming “Point out where I said” over and over and over again, demanding that we link him directly to something — as he claims that the mere presence of an online map on Sarah Palin’s Facebook site directly caused the murder and attempted assassination on Saturday.

    You blew it, Rob. You wanted to blame Sarah Palin, Republicans, and religious people, and you did exactly that. On Saturday, you were screaming up and down about how Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Republicans, and other religious people caused this and how they needed to, quote, “just go”.

    Problem is, they weren’t responsible. The guy was a nut. And instead of admitting that you let your own bigotry and prejudice against Sarah Palin speak before getting all the facts, you’re doubling down on stupid by blaming Sarah Palin for your screwing up.

    Now, Rob, you’ve been given DIRECT examples of the Obama Party, YOUR Obama Party, and YOUR fellow gays and lesbians, calling for Sarah Palin and her family to be raped, hung, shot, and die in a plane crash. You’ve been shown where, on your OWN WEBSITE, people are attacking Sarah Palin and claiming that she ordered the murder of Gabrielle Giffords.

    Start repudiating. After all, it’s what you’re demanding of everyone else. Practice what you preach. And start policing your own damn comments if you’re going to come over here and whine about it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 7:22 pm - January 10, 2011

  20. “Rob Tisinai, Pam Spaulding, Andrew Sullivan, Truth Wins Out, Box Turtle Bulletin, and the gay and lesbian community they represent are insisting that a) Sarah Palin ordered the assassination of Gabrielle Giffords and b) the Republican Party should be suppressed and shut down by the government.”

    I can’t speak for anyone else on the list, but regarding ND30’s assertion about me, it’s clearly a lie. No one’s been able to point to anything I’ve written to support a or b.

    ND30 says “And the supreme irony here is that Rob Tisinai is screaming “Point out where I said” over and over and over again, demanding that we link him directly to something” — well, yeah, when you say that I’m “insisting” that the Republican Party be suppressed and shut down, it’s fair to ask “Point out where I said it.”

    ND30 and Livewire, it doesn’t matter what other people on other sites (or in the comments section of my own site) have said when we’re talking about ND30’s dishonesty about what I have said. Me — not anyone else. That’s what he’s lying about.

    ND30, he doesn’t care. And apparently, neither do you.

    Comment by Rob Tisinai — January 10, 2011 @ 7:38 pm - January 10, 2011

  21. Rob, Miss Rita Beads aka N D T just gets all worked up. No need to let the windy ol’ thang disrupt your day. Miss Rita is kinda set inher ways and likes the world as she sees it.

    Comment by rusty — January 10, 2011 @ 7:56 pm - January 10, 2011

  22. Rob, I feel like this argument over the accuracy of NDT’s statement has become a distraction from the issue of whether your post was an attempt to cynically exploit a tragedy to attack your political opponents; especially since subsequent evidence has refudiated the notion that Mr. Loughner was influenced by Sarah Palin or Tea Party ideology.

    Comment by V the K — January 10, 2011 @ 7:59 pm - January 10, 2011

  23. Of course it matters, Rob. Weren’t you over here demanding that “anyone” acknowledge my so-called “lies”? Then why aren’t you doing the same on your own website?

    The answer is pretty clear: you can accuse Sarah Palin of murder without a shred of proof because you hate her. Therefore, the people on your website are just repeating what you believe to be true, so they’re not lying. It’s the same way you can rationalize your fellow Obama Party members and gays and lesbians calling directly for Sarah Palin and her family to be raped, shot, hung, and die in a plane crash; you hate her, so anything bad that happens to her is a net positive for you.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 8:00 pm - January 10, 2011

  24. You are correct, V; Rob is desperately trying to spin away from the fact that he accused Sarah Palin of murder based on a Facebook map.

    He’s also upset because it’s being shown quite effectively how he’s quite ok with lies, violence, and so forth when they’re directed at people he doesn’t like — which, given his attempts to spin himself as moderate and fair, constitute two torpedo hits in the forward magazine.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — January 10, 2011 @ 8:08 pm - January 10, 2011

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