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What Jerry Brown can learn from his Wisconsin counterpart

Welcome Ann Althouse readers!!  While you’re here, you might want to check out my latest on the protests in the Badger State.

What’s happening in Wisconsin should be happening in California, with public employee unions upset at anticipated cuts in their benefits and legislation limiting their power.  Both the Badger State and the (once-)Golden State have similar rates of unionization in their workforces, 16 and 17% respectively.  Both face huge budget gaps.

Unlike his California counterpart, however, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is taking on the state’s public employee unions, “walking,” as Michelle Malkin puts it, “the fiscal responsibility walk“:

Under Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal, almost every public employee would have to contribute 5.8 percent toward their pensions, and state workers would pay 12.6 percent of their health insurance premiums. The bill received a legislative hearing on Tuesday amid criticism from public employees across the state, including the Green Bay area.

The Republican governor has put the legislation at the center of a budget repair bill that aims to save the state $30 million in the current budget and an additional $300 million over the next two years.

With the prospect of their gravy train running out, the public employee unions are up in arms, but methinks their juvenile stunts won’t have the desired effect.  Instead, they should cause voters to rally round the Republican proposal.  “The SEIU,” as Malkin notes, “has declared full-scale war on the Badger State over attempts to rein in bloated public union pay and benefits.”

So important is this protest that “Madison public schools are closed Wednesday because too many teachers are taking the day off to protest Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to limit union bargaining.”  They’re putting their benefits ahead of students’ education.  Maybe Walker should fire ’em. Well, maybe not.  I mean, as Ann Althouse puts it, the teachers are really teaching their charges a great lesson:

The kids won’t have school, but you can learn a lot of things outside of school. Some of these things are even taught by the teachers who are not there. For example, it’s okay to call in sick when you’re not actually sick, but you just have something that you think is really important.

(H/t: Instapundit.)  Seems the teachers are also teaching the students the benefits of breaking the law as Michelle Malkin reports, “illegally striking teachers from Madison East High School students dragged hundreds of students to their union protests at the Wisconsin Capitol yesterday.

Let’s hope these antics cause Governor Walker and Wisconsin legislators to stand firm.  Should they succeed, they will provide an example to their counterparts in California on how to stand down the forces, according to the former Democratic Speaker of the state Assesmbly, responsible for “80 percent of the state, county and city budget deficits“.

But that would mean aggravating those who most help California Democrats.  And it doesn’t seem Governor Brown or his fellow partisans are willing to do that.  Not yet, at least

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  1. I should have criticized him for failing to push for the same kinds of reforms he touted in his first two years in office

    Should have, would have could have. It doesn’t give your criticism of Brown a whole lot of credence. If Schwarzenegger had a “D” after he is name, instead of an “R,” I doubt you would have allowed seven years to pass with nary a negative comment. In fact, judging by your pre-emptive criticism of Brown, if it had been a “D,” I’d gather you’d have had 679 posts. The number is unscientific, more of a ballpark figure. Do you disagree?

    V2K> I always count on your mature responses. /sarcasm My friend works with special ed kids at a high school level and she’s one of the best teachers out there. I doubt she ever has looked at porn in her life, but I can always count on you to keep things classy.

    Sonic> Sorry, the GP post you reference hardly takes Schwarzenegger to task like GP has done with Brown BEFORE he even took office. And, no, there aren’t a litany of criticisms. I’ve looked. And, for the record, I’ve been reading this blog for years. But, thank you for schooling ND40 with some facts. I appreciate it.

    ND40> I see you also like to debate maturely. Touchy much? Call me when the shuttle lands, sport. 😉 And I never said my friend was whining. You’re projecting, sport. I don’t project on you. Please offer me the same respect. K?

    ILC> Really? Please. Of all the regular conservatives (although you call yourself independent) on here, you’re better than this. No, not one “legitimate” OR, in your words, “left-wing.” None, nada.

    Sean A>Why do you even bother commenting on anything I’ve said when you told me last month you have no interest in having anything to do with me anymore. Be consistent, will you?

    Listen, when it comes down to it, I like all you guys. I wouldn’t have stuck around for so long. If I met you in person, I think it would be easier to understand where you’re coming from. That’s an open-invite. I’m in L.A.

    Cheers and good night.

    Comment by Guilty White Male — February 17, 2011 @ 9:22 pm - February 17, 2011

  2. GWM, I was trying to help you out. You see, your original statement was just foolish:

    [GMW] Since the inception of Gay Patriot, I can’t find ONE legitimate criticism of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    Since, as others have pointed out, there have been criticisms of Ahnuld on this blog. The only way to save your statement, i.e. the only way for you to not be a fool for having uttered a falsehood, would be if “legitimate” is in fact your lingo for “left-wing”. I merely pointed it out. You’re welcome. But since you don’t like it, next time I won’t try to save your statements; next time I will be quicker to assume that you are a fool.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 17, 2011 @ 9:30 pm - February 17, 2011

  3. ILC>Again, you’re better than the “fool” remark.

    No, I meant legitimate. I did not mean left-wing. I meant legitimate. As in independent. As in non-party affiliated. As in legitimate. As in there wasn’t one legitimate post examining any of his decisions as being bad for for California or going down the wrong path. If you can please provide one post from past GP that spends the whole post taking Schwarzenegger to task for anything he’s done (or am I to assume he did everything RIGHT?) in his seven years as a governor, please do and make a proper “fool” out of me.

    Sonic pointed out one sentence from a post that mainly harped on Democrats, Unionists and environmentalists.

    Comment by Guilty White Male — February 17, 2011 @ 9:46 pm - February 17, 2011

  4. Looks like Guilty White Fool is now in the process of desperately trying to move the goalposts down the field.

    Take this as a lesson, Dan. Partisan puppets like Guilty White Fool are not interested in honest debate. Treat them as pathological cheaters and require them to set down the rules before you answer them. You showed your character by answering honestly; Guilty White Fool showed his by attacking you and trying to change the rules when the facts did not bear out his lies that you had never criticized Schwarzenegger.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — February 18, 2011 @ 3:06 am - February 18, 2011

  5. Guilty, take my criticisms of Brown at face value. And note that I also offered hi some words of praise.

    As to failing to criticize Ahnuld before he took office, well, I wasn’t blogging then. I didn’t start blogging until a year after he took office.

    Even so, in his brief transition period, he was saying all the right things — and hiring all the right people (many veterans of the last successful gubernatorial administration in CA, that of Pete Wilson).

    I’m not criticizing Brown because he’s a Democrat. I criticize him because while I appreciate the attempts he’s been making to control state spending, I’m concerned that he has not yet addressed the power of the state public employee unions and the anti-business climate in the state.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — February 18, 2011 @ 5:00 am - February 18, 2011

  6. Sonic pointed out one sentence from a post that mainly harped on Democrats, Unionists and environmentalists.

    Translation: Schwarzenegger did get criticized, but it wasn’t left-wing enough for you. Excuse me, “legitimate” (*cough*).

    How about the post where Dan referred to Ahnuld as an “ostensible Republican” and “Charlie Crist’s leading California cheerleader”? (Both being slams.) Guess you missed that. one. Or, since it was not a Left-based criticism – and criticized leftists at the same time – then, in your warped jargon, it would not be “legitimate” criticism.

    Take a flying leap, GWM. You are indeed a fool.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 18, 2011 @ 11:23 am - February 18, 2011

  7. Or the post where Dan criticized Schwarzenegger for his lack of fiscal conservatism. I’m finding these in Google in less than 2 minutes. It takes longer to type these comments. But it’s criticism of Ahnuld from his Right, not from his Left – so you miss it, or apply your jargon-y claim of “not legitimate” or some such nonsense.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 18, 2011 @ 11:28 am - February 18, 2011

  8. Sonic> Sorry, the GP post you reference hardly takes Schwarzenegger to task like GP has done with Brown BEFORE he even took office. And, no, there aren’t a litany of criticisms. I’ve looked. And, for the record, I’ve been reading this blog for years.

    Ah, but, as others have pointed out, you’ve moved the goal post of your original question. Here is the first version of your question.

    Since the inception of Gay Patriot, I can’t find ONE legitimate criticism of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Why is that?

    Here’ … and another. From the last one:

    People chose Brown because they wanted a change in Sacramento and believed Brown would be the least like outgoing Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. …

    … And that’s a two-fer, dinging both Arnold AND Brown with one shot!

    Comment by Sonicfrog — February 18, 2011 @ 12:46 pm - February 18, 2011

  9. The criticisms are mostly short, or implicit (comparing Ahnuld to Democrats), or mixed in with criticism of other people/things. So what? There have been many over the years and, per GWM’s original claim, there only needed to be “ONE”. Unless we’re going to be subjected to gamesmanship over the qualifier “legitimate”, and we were.

    sf, on the education thing – don’t sweat it. Again my point was about the philosophy of Big Government, problems always having to be solved through government; I phrased it to allow examples of education regulation from either party. You don’t have to research it for my sake. If you do it anyway, you ought to find examples from both Democrats and Republicans – but, I still think, more from Democrats. Off the top of my head:
    – Dept. of Education – established by Carter and a Dem Congress.
    – No Child Left Unharmed – signed by Bush, not sure which party had Congress BUT I believe Kennedy’s staff wrote most of the bill.
    – Anything in CA education in the last 40 years: could have been signed by either a Republican or a Democrat governor, probably came from a Democrat legislature as their control since 1970 has been unbroken except for 1995-6.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — February 18, 2011 @ 1:06 pm - February 18, 2011

  10. NCLB was modeled after a program implemented in Texas, in the El Paso district if memory serves, while GW was Governor. The late Molly Ivans was all over it when it was being massaged through the house and senate.

    Comment by Sonicfrog — February 18, 2011 @ 6:05 pm - February 18, 2011

  11. ILC > Your posts have gotten angrier in a very short period of time. Take care of yourself, will ya’?

    Comment by Guilty White Male — February 21, 2011 @ 10:01 pm - February 21, 2011

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