In the spirit of HRC’s 11/18/10 release:
Washington – The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) – the nation’s largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights organization – for the second day called on American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) President Gerald W. McEntee to come out against the kind of anti-LGBT bullying and harassment sadly typified by a union activist’s angry rhetoric and actions Tuesday in Rhode Island. The activist has not yet apologized and Gerald McEntee has said nothing.
“This union activist doessn’t know when an apology is in order, why doesn’t he?” said HRC Vice President of Communications Fred Sainz. “As a progressive union leader allied with the Democratic Party, McEntee should know to speak up when someone protesting as an activist at a union ‘solidarity” rally makes hateful remarks, particularly as we strive to promote more civil discourse. Anti-LGBT bullying needs to stop and Gerald McEntee should be a part of making that happen.”
According to media accounts, AFSCME sponsored a “solidarity” rally in Providence on Tuesday and a citizen journalist was taping the event for public access TV. That prompted the union supporter to respond by threatening the cameraman, saying, “I’ll f**k you in the a**, you faggot!” [sic]
That language is unacceptable. Over the past year a number of union activists have harassed Americans seeking to peacefully assemble and express their grievances. Gerald McAntee has a prime opportunity to give union activists a lesson in tolerance – to let them know it is wrong to bully other other people, but has so far remained silent.
Sainz added: “Don’t squander this opportunity. Apologize for the behavior and make it clear that you stand against hatred and bullying. Union activists of this country are listening. So are we.”
As you can imagine, this is just a spoof. HRC has yet to address the angry rhetoric of a union activist who, unlike Willow Palin, has not sought to take back his mean-spirited and insulting remark.
You guys didn’t have half as much coverage of those teen suicides.
You guys just like GOProud don’t care about gays at all.
Exactly what are you babbling about, Dumbs? How are the two things even comparable?
(Shaking head, reaching for martini.)
Regards,
Peter H.
Please address the arguments we make in the posts to which you attach your comments and refrain from attacking us personally, Dooms.
Thanks!
Dr. Dan, don’t even waste your time. Dumbs is a lost cause. To him, facts are “an inconvenient truth.”
Regards,
Peter H.
Have you actually contacted HRC — an organization of which I am no fan BTW, or are you just doing this little dog and pony for your echo chamber buds?
Nice coverage on you guys at Sadly, No! today. Congrats.
Sadly no nailed it
HRC should not need to “be reached out to” by anyone….this is a no brainer.
As for GOProud (I am a “proud” contributor to GOProud)…..we stand on principles and are the first to speak out about issues that we care about whether those comments come from a conservative or a liberal.
The TRUTH has no agenda!
If by “care” you mean “exploit for political gain” as liberals have done, then no.
Further, if by “care” you mean “who’s hotter?” polls, I would say no to that as well. Why would gays be so classless as to trivialize a supposedly noble endeavor?
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Um, Dooms, better check your facts. I blogged several times on the Tyler Clementi suicide. And I actually spoke out in my synagogue on the matter and am working on a proposal with my college’s Society of Alumni to set up a program to address the issue.
I am not working on a program to address the problem of hate speech on the left.
I tend to ignore racist bigotry. Not surprised liberals would agree with their hate.
#5 – And again, the classless, clueless, bigoted Auntie Bitch vomits another non-sequitur.
Do you even LIKE yourself, honey?
Regards,
Peter H.
In what way is sadly no bigoted?
Dan,
I will call to task the one union supporter– among millions– you found making homophobic remarks, the moment you review and publicly chastise ND30, and others who post here, for referring to me and others as “pedophiles” “child-molesters” “consciously and intentionally spreading HIV” and countless other vile assaults that occur–with your consent on your blog.
No, vague statements chastising “ad hoc arguments” from your supporters does not compensate for the viscous remarks you allow from so called friends.
DAMN shame you have to ask. But then liberals have no problem with racist items like super imposing a pic of a black man over packages of Oreos and adding the nickname “Double Stuff”.
Bigots like you and the Sadly Racists make me ill. But that’s to be expected from the party of slavery, segregation and the Klan.
Don’t hold your breath GP. Being a Leftist means never having to say you’re sorry for anything you do or say. Or in the case of Mr. McEntree, what you don’t say.
I hope to be proven wrong.
Well, Brendan, that certainly points to a big pink elephant.
But it would be hard to moderate a blog.
Brendan, for the record, I have e-mailed NDXXX and asked him to tone done his rhetoric. We have met personally and enjoy each other’s company. He knows how I feel about his language. I do think his goes too far and I’ve told him so.
Now, you say, I allow his vicious remarks. I also “allow” vicious remarks from our critics, some taking swipes at me personally. I have elected to keep this forum open and that often involves “allowing” some pretty nasty comments. I think — as I’ve said previously — such language compromises the comments of those who use it.
That said, understand the point of this post. It’s called sarcasm. I’m merely adapting the language HRC used when Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter used an expression which, alas, many teenagers use. They asked Palin to speak out when she never used said slur. The daughter lated pulled the post where she used the offensive language. The union activist never apologized.
I’m merely mocked HRC for its selective outrage. Under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t hold them to account for the nasty language of one union supporter, as you put it, among millions (more likely just tens of thousands). They set the standard when they brought Mrs. Palin in. (And let’s not forget the Barney Frank standard, asking Republicans to “differentiate themselves” from the angry rhetoric of a few Tea Party activists.) Somehow only Republicans, even the most civil, must be held to account for the extremists among their ideological confrères.
I understand your point and appreciate it. I agree that some of my supporters use inappropriate language and level offensive accusations against our critics, some of whom comment in the most civil of terms. I have criticized them before on this blog. And do so again with this comment.
rusty, good point. Thanks for your defense. It is hard to moderate a blog, hence my choice to err on the side of inclusion.
Oh, and, Miss Dogma, Has HRC actually contacted Sarah Palin? I mean, if they really wanted her to speak out on offensive language, why didn’t they try to reach her though private channels instead of just doing their little dog and pony for their echo chamber on the gay left?
I don’t. It’s a total asshole move. Instead of holding the thugs accountable or at least keeping his mouth shut, he shifts attention to ND30. Brendan’s not the point of the post, much to his apparent chagrin.
This childish “Well what about X?” or “X is far worse!” is tiresome and shouldn’t be expected or tolerated of anyone over the age of five.
Thank you for your response Dan. I don’t follow HRC frequently and I initially missed the sarcasm of your posting. However, I agree. There are many things about Sarah Palin’s politics that I deplore, but the fact that her teenager acts like a teenager on face book is hardly national importance and it is silly for HRC to issue inane press releases.
As for TGC, in addition to ND30, you were one of the people I had in mind when posting my comment. I did not include your name because while your comments to people with whom you disagree do not rise above childish and non-thinking taunts of “asshole” and “libtard”, you don’t sink to the vile, and quite frankly deranged level, displayed by ND30.
This is cute and concise and although is directed at both blogger and reader, I find that Dan really doesn’t need reminders. . .
Blogging etiquette
For Bloggers and Readers
May 28, 2007 Zona Marie Tan
General dos and don’ts in the blogsphere.
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For the Blogger
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•Attribution. Always return credit where possible. If you are going to copy a text, or use an image, please return the credit and link back to where you found the material.
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For the Blog Reader/Commenter
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For Both
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Typical HRC hypocrisy. The union member screaming was a typical overcompensating LGBT male. You guys are pathetic. This outburst reminds me of Lambda Legal blaming heterosexual men for their obnoxious conduct regarding sexual assault in Oncale vs Sundowner Offshore Oil Services. A liberal US Supreme Court rejected the Lambda Legal BS and LL’s only recourse was to say there is gay on gay sexual harassment too.
Wow. Haven’t used “libtard” in quite a while.
But here’s the thing, Brendan. When you boil it all down, one of NDT’s central theme is that liberals (gay libs especially) are hypocritical and never hold themselves or others to the same high standards they demand of their opponents.
Your “if/then” comment above pretty much proves him right.
“Your “if/then” comment above pretty much proves him right.”
TGC, I have no idea what you are talking about. All people, regardless of politics, can be guilty of times of holding people to standards they themselves fail to meet. Politicians of all persuasions are especially inclined to fall into this trap.
Your assumption that this is somehow especially true of “gay liberals” and me–who you or ND30 do not know–is stated without any evidence whatsoever. I could list countless “pro-family” conservative politicians whose private lives are in contradiction with the values they espouse. I am sure there are numerous liberal politicians who are equally guilty of hypocrisy.
Your conviction that this is a problem of liberals is juvenile and does not reflect very serious thinking.
I can tell. You could’ve stopped right there instead of wandering in search of a cogent though.
Thought
Brendan @#13:
Forget the quid pro quo ….. it is irrelevant.
The TEA Party has been continually slandered with charges of racism, violence and insular ignorance by Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the mainstream fantasy media. “Our side” makes certain the ugly acts of the “social justice” crowd are seen and heard, and you choose to beg the issue.
My experience on this site is that people who “want what they want and they want it now” have no patience for considered debate on their opinions and spare no boldness in telling me what they think of my personhood. Fine, I can give as good as I take. Sparring with ideologues is sometimes relaxing. If you can not rise to the debate, have a food fight instead.
The union thug acted aggressively and stupidly. If all he has got is malice and a fist, he is no more than an 800 pound guerilla acting like an 800 pound guerilla. Why your crowd has to round up the humanity that thinks and acts like ACORN is a reflection on how you choose to play the game by deceit, manipulation and intimidation.
Andrew Breitbart makes a habit of interviewing the “social justice” demonstrators and asking them why they are there and what their signs mean. Typically, the overwhelming number of rent-a-mob demonstrators have no clue what they are shouting for. They act like so many organ grinder monkeys until something sets a monkey off and he bites someone.
Liberalism has become the philosophy of the ends justifying the means. You can trick a major bill through Congress by deeming and skipping conference reconciliation and all manner of mumbo jumbo, but that is OK, because you have to do what you have to do to get what you want.
A President can diddle a young girl in the Oval Office and that is totally a private act and does not reflect negatively on the Office of the Presidency or the respect and honor of the nation, solely because he is a Democrat.
Al Gore can literally invent a new scientific method and make (again literally) billions of dollars off a global tax scheme and that is morally relevant and OK, because he is Hercules trying to scrub the universe clean of what he says ails us.
When you can’t win through playing by the rules, chicanery, deceit, demagoguery, ignoring the rules and pure muscle will suffice. After all, it is not how you play the game, it whether you win or lose.
So, Brendan, that is why you don’t condemn anyone in your ranks until the opposition sacrifices one or two of its own in tribute to your moral relevancy. You apparently have no principles on which to stand.
Heliotrope,
“My experience on this site is that people who “want what they want and they want it now” have no patience for considered debate on their opinions and spare no boldness in telling me what they think of my personhood.”
For this sentence to make any sense you would need to point to some instance where I have made some comment on your “personhood”–whatever that means. I comment here rather infrequently and to the best of my knowledge, I have never said a word about you. I don’t know you and I would like to remind you that you don’t know me and so you have no basis in reality to make any assumptions about my beliefs or motives.
Actually, Helio, I think you nailed the point about Brendan right here.
So, Brendan, that is why you don’t condemn anyone in your ranks until the opposition sacrifices one or two of its own in tribute to your moral relevancy. You apparently have no principles on which to stand.
Exactly. Brendan, as I pointed out here, has no problem with fraud and Hitler signs per se; he supports and endorses those as valid when Obama Party members use them to achieve an end.
All Brendan is doing is engaging in the latest STFU tactic of the left, which is trying to turn conservatives’ own principles against them. However, this is akin to Barry Bonds whining about the abuse of performance-enhancing substances.
We are engaged in a game from which we cannot walk away and in which the other side has authorized any tactic to win. We should indeed temper our punches as much as possible and be as merciful as we can, but at the end of the day, we have no choice but to fight fire with some degree of fire.
Brendan,
First, read NDT, he has it 100% correct.
Secondly, I did not say Brendan had attacked me in any way whatsoever.
I stand by that. Somehow you want to challenge me with: “for this sentence to make any sense you would need to point to some instance where I have made some comment on your ‘personhood’–whatever that means.”
My point is that you are misdirected to charge Dan with your directive that: “No, vague statements chastising “ad hoc arguments” from your supporters does not compensate for the viscous remarks you allow from so called friends.”
We all take plenty in the peanut gallery give and take. If you wish to be above that, then don’t demand that NDT or anyone else be sacrificed first and then you will turn reasonable.
Capiche? I am somewhat of a wordsmith so I can always try another explanation. (Like, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.)