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Will Democrats Demagogue GOP Budget or Offer an Alternative?

Later this week, Republicans will present their “2012 budget proposal that would cut more than $4 trillion from federal spending projected over the next decade and transform the Medicare health program for the elderly“:

The budget has been prepared by Rep. Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican and the new chairman of the House Budget Committee, and it represents the most complete attempt so far by Republicans to make good on their promises during the 2010 midterm elections to cut government spending and deficits.

Though Rep. Ryan based the Medicare portion of his budget on a previous plan created in collaboration with a Democrat, Alice Rivlin, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and long-time budget expert, the current plan isn’t likely to get much Democratic support. Instead, it will set up a broad debate over spending and the role of government heading into the 2012 general election.

While Rivlin has some quibbles with the current plan, she generally backs it, reminding her fellow partisans that “What Democrats have to realize is we have to do something”.  But, Ryan fears that “Democrats will use his budget as a ‘political weapon,’ . . . that they will have to ‘lie and demagogue to make it a weapon against us.'” Given their recent rhetoric, the Wisconsin Republican has good reason to be concerned.

Meanwhile, instead of offering a plan of their own, “Democratic leaders are waiting to gauge the public reaction to Ryan’s plan, which would reduce projected federal spending by more than $4 trillion over the next decade“.  While it’s likely, they’ll offer an alternative, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), the senior Democrat on the budget panel remains “undecided.”

Over at the American Spectator, Joseph Lawler says its “Time to Pre-But Falsehoods About Paul Ryan’s Budget.”

Kudos to Ryan and his GOP team for making a serious effort to hold the line on federal spending — in line with Barack Obama’s promises as a candidate and rhetoric as president.

UPDATE: Ryan, Steven Hayward writes, touting the Wisconsin Republican as a presidential candidate,

. . . wants to have an adult conversation with America about the looming insolvency of the welfare state, and he has a serious plan to fix it. Like Kemp, lots of careerists in the GOP will head for the tall grass when the going gets tough, which I predict will begin on Tuesday afternoon, after Ryan lays out his budget proposal in more detail at a speech at my office, the American Enterprise Institute. (I’m going to be on a plane at the time and will have to miss it, but you can watch the webcast.) Ryan gave a preview of his plan yesterday on Fox News Sunday.

Read the whole thing.



  1. You know perfectly well the Dems will have a plan. You’re also probably aware that Obama has had it with the charade known as bipartisanship. He’s finally seen what the Grand Obstructionist Party is all about.

    He’s running now, and his base isn’t going to tolerate the right-wing decimating Medicare or taking away the only security net the poor, aging and disabled have.

    It’s a shame American corporations, like GE, Citibank, Boeing, Conoco, Chevron, Exxon-Mobil, etc, don’t pay their taxes. Ditto the god-bothering corporations that rake in billions by scaring the crap out of people and selling them cloud space in the next life. And the Pentagon ought to be forced to hold bake sales to pay for their toys.

    Comment by Auntie Dogma — April 4, 2011 @ 6:29 pm - April 4, 2011

  2. Miss Dogma, for Obama, bipartisanship has always been a charade. And GE’s CEO is an Obama buddy.

    Oh, and, given your, looks like we’ll mark you down as a vote for demagoguing the Ryan budget.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — April 4, 2011 @ 6:47 pm - April 4, 2011

  3. Granny Dogshit: Would please GET THE HELL OUT of my country. Clearly, you hate it here.

    Comment by bastiat fan — April 4, 2011 @ 6:53 pm - April 4, 2011

  4. Auntie – which plan would that be? We’re still operating with stopgap funding because the ALL-DEM government failed to pass a budget last year.

    The Dems will demagogue as usual – starving children, homeless old ladies. I think they have a script (same one they use every freakin’ year).

    Comment by SoCalRobert — April 4, 2011 @ 7:02 pm - April 4, 2011

  5. Is the sky blue? President Obama has been waiting for the Republicans budget to demagogue it to death; however, the public is on the Republicans’ side. Obama is just using his latest Saul Alinsky tactic, again. Most people want Obama to lead, but all he does is campaign. He’s been doing it since he’s been in office circa January 20th, 2009 & hasn’t stopped. The Democrats will follow Obama off the cliff like they did with ObamaCare & Porkulus.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — April 4, 2011 @ 7:13 pm - April 4, 2011

  6. Aunti Dogma, you’re missing your role as a Dalek from Doctor Who.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — April 4, 2011 @ 7:14 pm - April 4, 2011

  7. thanks, Sebastian. I needed a good laugh. You owe me a keyboard, though. lol

    Comment by bastiat fan — April 4, 2011 @ 7:33 pm - April 4, 2011

  8. What is the alternative? Closing the deficit on tax receipts alone would require doubling the tax rates at all levels… and even if you could do that without decimating the economy (You can’t), the ramped up spending for ObamaCare after 2016 would just reopen the deficit.

    The Democrat plan for closing the deficit is essentially the same as their plan for energy independence… yell at Republicans and hope a miracle happens.

    And, it’s unlikely any of the House Lefties is going to propose anything substantive. Nothing-But-Dogma… well, that elevator stopped reaching the penthouse a long time ago. Levi actually believes the deficit is too small and we should be borrowing about a trillion dollars more. And Cas will just find some point of semantics to obsess over in hopes of deflecting the topic. But, IMHO, no one who refuses to offer an alternative means for closing the deficit should even be allowed in on the debate.

    Comment by V the K — April 4, 2011 @ 7:59 pm - April 4, 2011

  9. Actually, the Democrats seem intent on using the defunding of Planned Parenthood (and other sources of abortion) as their salient. This speaks to the evolving primacy of the woman vote in the 2012 election. Abortion is canon for the men-hating feminists, and Obama must have these women, and the confused-about-feminism to win.

    Comment by DaveO — April 4, 2011 @ 9:03 pm - April 4, 2011

  10. Democratic leaders are waiting to gauge the public reaction to Ryan’s plan,

    That’s bullshit, right there, and I’m sure The Hill knows it. Democreep “leaders” are already trying to dictate the public reaction. Who are they kidding?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 4, 2011 @ 10:23 pm - April 4, 2011

  11. and his base isn’t going to tolerate the right-wing decimating Medicare or taking away the only security net the poor, aging and disabled have.

    A) It doesn’t seem that he has much of a “base” left, does he?

    2) How can Medicare possibly get any more decimated that it already is? Or are you arguing that his stupid “base” demand that the colossal failures of the insolvent Medicare and the Socialist Stupidity Ponzi Scheme be allowed to continue to collapse?

    You libs have already played the game of leaving Americans without a pot to piss in and then come riding in on your white horse to save the day. Not only do you suck ass at that game, but Americans aren’t buying it anymore. We’re gonna have a refferrendum on “Hope & Change” and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

    Yeah, we were a helluva lot better off four years ago.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 4, 2011 @ 11:47 pm - April 4, 2011

  12. It’s a shame American corporations, like GE, Citibank, Boeing, Conoco, Chevron, Exxon-Mobil, etc, don’t pay their taxes.

    Most folks with an IQ higher than cow flop don’t dig being lied to. The real shame is that liberals don’t fit that bill. To whit:

    Did GE get a $3.2 billion tax refund? No.

    Did GE pay U.S. income taxes in 2010? Yes, it paid estimated taxes for 2010, and also made payments for previous years. Think of it as your having paid withholding taxes on your salary in 2010, and sending the IRS a check on April 15, 2010, covering your balance owed for 2009.

    Will GE ultimately pay U.S. income taxes for 2010? After much to-ing and fro-ing — the company says it hasn’t completed its 2010 tax return — GE now says that it will pay tax.

    Will the al-Qaeda Times, Huffington Plagiarism and all the bullshit liberal blogs report on this and/or run some sort of clarification? No.

    Will you now scuttle off waiting to be lied to again by the party? Absolutely.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — April 5, 2011 @ 2:46 am - April 5, 2011

  13. The Planned Parenthood path is nothing but thorns for the Left; if this is all they have, they have nothing. Most people are appalled by abortion & thanks to the Breitbart videos, they cannot mask the truth. The Left has to resort to lies than even a snake can’t buy.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — April 5, 2011 @ 9:18 am - April 5, 2011

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