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Obama Lied, Strawmen Died!

Is anyone really surprised?  I mean, REALLY? (h/t - Instapundit)

Evidence is now in that President Barack Obama grossly exaggerated the humanitarian threat to justify military action in Libya. The president claimed that intervention was necessary to prevent a “bloodbath’’ in Benghazi, Libya’s second-largest city and last rebel stronghold.

But Human Rights Watch has released data on Misurata, the next-biggest city in Libya and scene of protracted fighting, revealing that Moammar Khadafy is not deliberately massacring civilians but rather narrowly targeting the armed rebels who fight against his government.

Misurata’s population is roughly 400,000. In nearly two months of war, only 257 people — including combatants — have died there. Of the 949 wounded, only 22 — less than 3 percent — are women. If Khadafy were indiscriminately targeting civilians, women would comprise about half the casualties.

Obama insisted that prospects were grim without intervention. “If we waited one more day, Benghazi . . . could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.’’ Thus, the president concluded, “preventing genocide’’ justified US military action.

But intervention did not prevent genocide, because no such bloodbath was in the offing. To the contrary, by emboldening rebellion, US interference has prolonged Libya’s civil war and the resultant suffering of innocents.

Where is Cindy Sheehan crying?  Where is Rep. Jim McDermott grandstanding?  Where is Howard Dean screeching?

This Libyan enterprise proves that Democrats only support war when it is POLITICAL, not when it is essential to US interests.  It is too bad that Libyan civilians are dying to show how much of a liar our President and his minions are.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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  1. This Libyan enterprise proves that Democrats only support war when it is POLITICAL,

    What war is not political?

    >>>not when it is essential to US interests.

    You mean: The American oil your god accidentally placed under someone else’s sand — right next to the weapons of mass distraction.

    >>>It is too bad that Libyan civilians are dying to show how much of a liar our President and his minions are.

    They’re dying to shake off a brutal dictator. They could probably give a shit about Obama.

    InstaPundit had some reasonable content. What you brought to the table, Bruce, was petty and inconsequential partisan propaganda.

    Blogging: It’s about digging up your own facts or expressing a unique point of view.

    Comment by Auntie Dogma — April 14, 2011 @ 4:12 pm - April 14, 2011

  2. Your post brings to light, again, several trends that present eventual existential threats.

    1. ‘We don’t know what we don’t know. We also can’t be sure of what we do know.’ Our non-uniformed intelligence services are so bad that no POTUS of any party, much less we the People should have full faith and confidence in them. Perhaps it’s the employee model of tenured Government Civil Service, perhaps a union member, and immune to accountability and responsibility. The CIA and Democrats waged a very active campaign against our great Nation to prevent that accountability and responsibility, and the GOP permitted the campaign to succeed.

    2. NATO, after over 50 years of our propping it up, training its leaders, and giving it the patina of competence, is grossly incompetent when it comes to leading and managing warfare. When a command is that bad, it is good and right to pull out of it immediately before the US gets hurt.

    3. The POTUS and his war leaders are incompetent. He’s in Rio, partying hard, and his SecState and her rival the Ambassador the UN are cooking up the Road to War. Humanitarian disaster? Please. Spare me. If that policy had any merit we’d've been in Darfur by the end of January, 2009. This POTUS with this war team is going to get us all killed because they don’t know jack from sprat about what goes on in the mind of the person with his finger on the trigger.

    Comment by DaveO — April 14, 2011 @ 4:38 pm - April 14, 2011

  3. Granny Goodness is completely dedicated to the narritive. Facts be damned

    Comment by The_Livewire — April 14, 2011 @ 5:10 pm - April 14, 2011

  4. Granny Goodness is completely dedicated to the narritive. Facts be damned

    Which is why her comments are completely irrelevant and a waste of time.

    Comment by V the K — April 14, 2011 @ 5:27 pm - April 14, 2011

  5. Since Granny Dogshit has NOTHING to offer to the discussion—EVER!—why don’t we all just ignore her. She is what she is, and by that I mean a kool aid drinking partisan hack, and does not deserve to be taken seriously.

    Comment by bastiat fan — April 14, 2011 @ 7:59 pm - April 14, 2011

  6. That’s pretty much where I’m at, bastiat. I usually scroll past her posts, unless I am feeling a need to remind myself of my moral and intellectual superiority.

    Comment by V the K — April 14, 2011 @ 9:18 pm - April 14, 2011

  7. Wy is it that Auntie Dogbreath is (almost) ALWAYS the first one to comment on new threads? Is her sole occupation sitting around waiting for new posts on GayPatriot?

    Comment by AF_Vet — April 14, 2011 @ 10:14 pm - April 14, 2011

  8. Bruce – quick observation here…

    From the HRW article:

    A second doctor, interviewed separately, said that hospitals in the city had documented about 250 dead over the past month, most of them civilians. He believed the actual number was higher because many people could not reach medical facilities.

    The actual number of dead might be significantly higher.

    I’m actually a little confused about the point you’re trying to make:
    >>> It is too bad that Libyan civilians are dying to show how much of a liar our President and his minions are.

    Are you suggesting that less people would have died if the US and NATO had not provided air support? Or, perhaps more accurately, that US and NATO involvement has increased the number of casualties? It seems kind of weird to argue that a) the number of deaths is extremely low and b) it’s our fault that so many are dying.

    I’m totally willing to argue whether the air support has been a good thing or not (was it justified? in our national interest? etc), but this seems like nothing more than scoring a cheap political point…..

    Comment by Alan — April 14, 2011 @ 10:14 pm - April 14, 2011

  9. err…”Why is it…” not “Wy is it”

    I hate when I do that…especially with the live preview system on this blog (kudos for that by the way; very nice feature).

    Comment by AF_Vet — April 14, 2011 @ 10:16 pm - April 14, 2011

  10. You mean: The American oil your god accidentally placed under someone else’s sand

    Then why didn’t the Golfer in Chief fabricate a reason to invade Brazil and hand over Petrobras to the unions instead of handing out ass loads of our cash, Auntie Flow?

    Comment by TGC — April 15, 2011 @ 12:18 am - April 15, 2011

  11. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. If I were to choose one as “cowboy” intervention, it would be Libya.

    Obama did not bother to tell Congress why he was dragging our military into this one. He “voted present” in Egypt. He has continuously given Israel the middle finger. He has handed over his lunch to Iran. He has sent Pee Wee Herman to soothe North Korea. He is rapidly losing Pockeestan.

    Why he decided to throw bricks at Libya is a mystery to me. Perhaps there is a Chicago reason and he has found a reason to tick off Calypso Louis Farakhan by pulling a squeeze play.

    No matter what, I find it amusing that NATO can’t win a sanitary “war-let” using their diplomacy and limited, targeted power against an army that uses the cast-off junk of NATO itself against them. This is an operetta worthy of Gilbert and Sullivan. Obama is the very model of a modern major general who is adept at voting present and was absent when the allies angered the sand flea and his band of sirocco hardened fatalists.

    Castro is still starving Cuba, Chavez has tightened his grip on Venezuela, Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamat al -Islāmiyyah keeps the Middle East on edge over the Palestinian guerilla war, Ahmadinejad is busy lighting fuses, Putin is stoking up the KGB, Pakistan is being eclipsed by reality in Waziristan, European Union member countries are going down the financial crapper and……….. Obama gets his arm caught in the Libya wringer. Why didn’t he invade Iceland? Or Arizona? Or Burning Tree golf course? Or FOX News?

    Comment by Heliotrope — April 15, 2011 @ 9:23 am - April 15, 2011

  12. #11: “Obama gets his arm caught in the Libya wringer. Why didn’t he invade Iceland? Or Arizona? Or Burning Tree golf course? Or FOX News?”

    But Obama DID invade Arizona. That was “Operation: Together We Thrive”. Didn’t you get your t-shirt?

    Comment by Sean A — April 15, 2011 @ 10:45 am - April 15, 2011

  13. Where is Cindy Sheehan crying?

    She’s at home, waiting patiently by the phone, for her old friends to call with the news that she’s just as relevant, just as important to “the movement,” and with every bit the “absolute moral authority” she had back in the day…

    …when the unapologetic sociopaths last had need of her immoral stances.

    Comment by Eric in Chicago — April 15, 2011 @ 11:40 am - April 15, 2011

  14. #13: “She’s at home, waiting patiently by the phone, for her old friends to call…”

    lamp on…lamp off…lamp on…lamp off…lamp on…lamp off…

    Comment by Sean A — April 15, 2011 @ 1:02 pm - April 15, 2011

  15. Sean A,

    I forgot! The Giffords lead up to a possible memorial was so ham-handed I failed to see how Libya-like it was in the invasion department. Great catch.

    Comment by Heliotrope — April 15, 2011 @ 3:51 pm - April 15, 2011

  16. DaveO’s comment #2 says much of what I would say.

    Obama allowed the media to pander to our soft spots about all the little girls being targeted by mean old Gaddafi.
    Don’t forget Gaddafi actually said he would go out looking for blood if rebels fought him instead of surrendering.

    Obama painted himself into a corner with Libya…..

    1. If there was a large coalition.
    There was.
    Both Europe (wanting oil and not wanting African refugees) and the Arab League (expecting a blood-free ”no-fly zone) made a big international coalition.

    2. If someone else would lead.
    France and the UK agreed to lead.

    3. If no US interests were involved.
    None were.
    It was all humanitarian.

    What else could Obama do but go in?
    The world met all his weird demands.

    Will the world play Obama again and again until the USA it totally broke and out of weapons?
    Makes you wonder.

    Comment by Nan G — April 16, 2011 @ 5:06 pm - April 16, 2011

  17. Are we still in Libya?? It’s been so quiet, I was beginning to wonder! This has been a debacle from the get-go. We had no business going in there like we did. We don’t even know who we’re helping! I haven’t heard a peep about this in at least 2 weeks.

    Comment by Felicia — April 20, 2011 @ 1:48 pm - April 20, 2011

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