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If George W. Bush had said this. . .

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 5:04 pm - May 11, 2011.
Filed under: Bush-hatred,Media Bias

. . . . it would proof of his stupidity, but since Barack Obama says it, it’s only a human being making an the type of verbal blunder we all make:

Apparently It Wasn’t Over When the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor
“Internationally, we’ve gone through a Teutonic shift in the Middle East that could have enormous ramifications for years to come.”–President Obama, May 10, quoted by USA Today, which reports the White House says he meant “tectonic.”

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  1. Or is it a Freudian slip? I’d have to see more, but “Teutonic [i.e. German] shift in the Middle East” sounds like it could be a subconscious acknowledgement of the weakening of the Israel the Jewish State, a shift that the Obama administration has brought about.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 11, 2011 @ 5:33 pm - May 11, 2011

  2. I see his $100,000 teleprompter mistress was without him when he blurted this statement.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — May 11, 2011 @ 6:00 pm - May 11, 2011

  3. Just for tun, ask him how many states there are in the country. Whatever he says would be really amusing.

    Comment by Dottie Laird — May 11, 2011 @ 6:21 pm - May 11, 2011

  4. GW Bush would have been eaten alive for a comment like that. So would Michele Bachmann or Sarah Palin. Nobody calls Obama out on this stuff.

    Comment by Right Hook — May 11, 2011 @ 6:51 pm - May 11, 2011

  5. Now that there’s been a Teutonic shift in the Middle East, will they all start start speaking Austrian?

    Comment by V the K — May 11, 2011 @ 7:10 pm - May 11, 2011

  6. So they’ve been laying low for the past 2,100 years or so after (finally) getting the ever loving snot kicked out of them at Aquae Sextiae, eh? Of all the threats out there that the United States faces, this is one I for one didn’t see coming. Clever bastards!

    Comment by John — May 11, 2011 @ 8:13 pm - May 11, 2011

  7. So they’ve been laying low for the past 2,100 years or so after (finally) getting the ever loving snot kicked out of them at Aquae Sextiae, eh? Of all the threats out there that the United States faces, this is one I for one didn’t see coming. Clever bastards!

    Comment by John — May 11, 2011 @ 8:13 pm - May 11, 2011

  8. People misspeak. George Bush is stupid. And really, it doesn’t have much to do with the fact that he’d botch a pronunciation or mangle some grammar. That can be forgiven as long as you come across as coherent and well-informed. Bush can’t do that. He doesn’t make any sense – his statements don’t make any sense.

    One of my favorite examples; they asked him at his last press conference what his biggest mistake as President was, and he had some rambling, disjointed answer about how they should have landed Air Force One after Hurricane Katrina, because he got criticized for not doing that, but then he immediately justified himself by saying he probably would have gotten criticized if he had landed because his landing would have consumed police resources….. again – this is his answer to the question ‘What was your biggest mistake?’ How is he going to call that his biggest mistake, after the things he presided over? And then he rationalizes it! In the end, George’s biggest mistake wasn’t a mistake at all! That episode perfectly illustrated his lack of awareness, his lack of introspection, his lack of preparedness… you know, characteristics that smart people would have.

    Despite being born with every advantage, the guy spent decades of his life in a drunken stupor and coasted through life on his name and family fortune. That isn’t what smart people do. Republicans elected a fratboy. And as much as you want to believe that his critics apply the idiot label because he mispronounces words, the reality is that he’s earned that label because he’s clearly not intelligent. You’re a terrible judge of character if you can’t discern that.

    Comment by Levi — May 11, 2011 @ 8:21 pm - May 11, 2011

  9. Um, Levi, Bush is not the only president who has trouble acknowledging his mistakes.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — May 11, 2011 @ 8:30 pm - May 11, 2011

  10. Levi, wuold you be defending President Bush? I don’t think so. The MSM gives Obama a pass because he has (D) by his name & he’s a black liberal. You really know how rant when people strike a nerve. Let how to self-edit before you speak. I still feel like I’m reading some unconscious writing from you. It sends me spinning.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — May 11, 2011 @ 8:37 pm - May 11, 2011

  11. “Learn how to self-edit.”

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — May 11, 2011 @ 8:38 pm - May 11, 2011

  12. Interestingly enough, when I found the actual transcript of Bush’s last press conference, I noticed two things — of course, how hilariously and incorrectly the insane Bush-hater Levi mischaracterized his statements.

    But more importantly, I was struck by the grace, humility, and insight that Bush displayed.

    Bush knew Obama was nothing more than a failed racist Verizon clerk like his supporter Levi. And I have no doubt that Bush had a pretty good idea as to the end result. But instead of bashing his successor, who had done nothing but heap hate and vicious lies on him, Bush was more than gracious in his departure.

    And I have no doubt he’s smiling now as he watches the failed racist Verizon clerk desperately carrying around a corpse, trying to convince people that a terrorist killed thanks to Bush’s intelligence reforms, Bush’s policies, and Bush’s information gathering is somehow to the failed racist’s credit.

    Thanks, President Bush.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 11, 2011 @ 9:14 pm - May 11, 2011

  13. RightHook; Sarah Palin *especially* would be eaten alive for that one. Look what they did when she said it wasn’t time yet to party like it was 1773…and SHE was RIGHT. Imagine if she wasn’t? Phew.

    Comment by Anniee451 — May 11, 2011 @ 9:31 pm - May 11, 2011

  14. Interestingly enough, when I found the actual transcript of Bush’s last press conference, I noticed two things — of course, how hilariously and incorrectly the insane Bush-hater Levi mischaracterized his statements.

    Oh really? I’ll confess that when I wrote my earlier post, I hadn’t re-watched or re-read Bush’s remarks. It was all from memory. Looking at the relevant passage that you’ve helpfully included, it looks to me like I got it exactly right. Care to explain how you think I’m lying about it?

    Comment by Levi — May 11, 2011 @ 11:13 pm - May 11, 2011

  15. Anniee451, good point. So, let’s see.
    – Obama: Says comically wrong stuff all the time (57 States, anyone?). Media and other minions cover for him.
    – Palin: Says dead-right stuff all the time (Alaska shares a border with Russia, anyone?). Lacking genuine material for slamming her, Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (“I can see Russia from my house”). Media covers for them.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 2:05 am - May 12, 2011

  16. If Democrats believe we foreigners all love Obama, and all hated Bush, they’re delusional, or very ignorant.

    Comment by Ben — May 12, 2011 @ 5:36 am - May 12, 2011

  17. Remember folks, President Bush’s biggest mistakes to Levi were proving that brown people *can* understand democracy, liberation a nation from a fearsome dictator. Liberating a nation from a tyranical religious regime… Levi, like President Obama, hates free people.

    Perhaps this is why Levi finds his Katrina statement so offensive…

    Obviously, some of my rhetoric has been a mistake.

    I’ve thought long and hard about Katrina; you know, could I have done something differently, like land Air Force One either in New Orleans or Baton Rouge.

    The problem with that and — is that law enforcement would have been pulled away from the mission.

    BUSH: And then your questions, I suspect, would have been, “How could you possibly have flown Air Force One into Baton Rouge, and police officers that were needed to expedite traffic out of New Orleans were taken off the task to look after you?”

    That President Bush doesn’t make it all about him says a lot.

    That he ists other mistakes in that answer just shows again, that Levi lies.

    And here’s the reality racists like Levi will never accept:

    And the — one thing about the presidency is that you can make — only make decisions, you know, on the information at hand.

    BUSH: You don’t — you don’t get to have information after you’ve made the decision. That’s not the way it works. And you’re — you stand by your decisions and you do your best to explain why you made the decisions you made.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 12, 2011 @ 7:39 am - May 12, 2011

  18. “- Palin: Says dead-right stuff all the time (Alaska shares a border with Russia, anyone?). Lacking genuine material for slamming her, Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (“I can see Russia from my house”). Media covers for them.”

    Ohhhh god, I Love Capitalism, that drives me BATTY! Like you say, first of all she’s almost always *right* to begin with (at least 99.8% of the time – 1773, anyone? The Russian BORDER? GAH!) and they pretend she said something ELSE so they can slam her, and it’s the media DOING it…Gwin Ifill and KOS stepped in it trying that once, but most of the time it just doesn’t fly back in their filthy lying faces at all. So incredibly frustrated.

    Levi – boy, Bush is really that STUPID, eh? Tsk tsk – I tell you, it’s amazing how he called down the hurricane and simultaneously set off depth charges under the Levees in a racist plot then, isn’t it? And masterminded 9/11? I mean, dam, that was some DUMB plans! LOL

    Comment by Anniee451 — May 12, 2011 @ 8:48 am - May 12, 2011

  19. […] Imagine the reaction if Bush had said the same thing. Observe the reaction to Mr Obama’s statement. So, you can drop the pretence that the media […]

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  20. […] Imagine the reaction if Bush had said the same thing. Observe the reaction to Mr Obama’s statement. So, you can drop the pretence that the media […]

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  21. You have to wonder whether this guy is truly a stooge with a baritone voice. You cannot make this stuff up.

    Comment by RJLigier — May 12, 2011 @ 10:27 am - May 12, 2011

  22. And masterminded 9/11? I mean, dam, that was some DUMB plans!

    *******************

    Question: (Not sure if Levi can answer this) — Did it occur to any of the 9/11 Truthers that a government conspiracy to murder thousands of people would have also included a plan to rub out a few troublemakers?

    Comment by TooMuchTime — May 12, 2011 @ 10:54 am - May 12, 2011

  23. TMT,

    No, no more than it occured to them that if the WMD information was truly intended to be faked, then they’d just bring some along to be ‘found’.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 12, 2011 @ 11:04 am - May 12, 2011

  24. Anniee451, good point. So, let’s see.
    – Obama: Says comically wrong stuff all the time (57 States, anyone?). Media and other minions cover for him.

    Stuff like this happens to everybody dozens of times a day. The question is whether or not you think Obama really believes there are 57 states in the Union. Is that what you think? If so, then congratulations, you’re the stupid one.

    – Palin: Says dead-right stuff all the time (Alaska shares a border with Russia, anyone?). Lacking genuine material for slamming her, Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (“I can see Russia from my house”). Media covers for them.

    No one ever accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska. The criticism of her was entirely based on her assertion that she had foreign policy experience simply because of that proximity. That is a stupid statement anyway you look at it. Your defense of Palin here rests on deliberately distorting the entirely appropriate criticism and inventing a massive conspiracy against her.

    To review; Obama misspoke one day, and this is proof of his profound stupidity. Sarah Palin attempts to burnish her Presidential credentials with absurd, teenager-level bullshitting, and she is saying ‘dead-right stuff all the time.’ Oh. Okay.

    Comment by Levi — May 12, 2011 @ 11:31 am - May 12, 2011

  25. As an aside; how much longer is the conservative hissy-fit about media bias going to continue? Between the decline of newspapers and broadcast news, the ascension of Fox News on cable, the domination of conservativism on talk radio, and the diversity of opinion and information on the internet, don’t you think it’s time to put the media-is-biased! whine to bed? I mean, I know it’s been useful as a catch-all-excuse for every Republican failure for the past few decades, but how does all of the above add up to a media that is slavishly devoted to liberalism and the Democrats?

    Comment by Levi — May 12, 2011 @ 11:41 am - May 12, 2011

  26. Speaking of Levi’s stupidity His god of Global Warming takes another hit.

    This might come as a shock to you, Levi, but border bumping between Russia and America happen all the time. The crab fishermen up there have been in many places where all they hear on the radios is Russian.

    Oh, and let’s not forget that Governour Palin is the one who negotiated the pipeline agreement with Canada.

    But wait, I’m sure Levi will argue that Canada doesn’t count as foreign policy since they aren’t ‘brown skinned’.

    It is amazing the lengths the racist Levi will go to in trying to excuse the missteps of the President, while not extending the same standards to others.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 12, 2011 @ 11:41 am - May 12, 2011

  27. Levi, you’re too dumb to live. The only stupid thing was bothering to answer you at all. Jeez. By the way, I do NOT make mistakes like that dozens of times a day. If you do, you’re an idiot. But then we know that already.

    TMT you know I was being sarcastic about Bush, right? They credit him with superhuman brainpower while calling him the dumbest man alive – they’re…stupid.

    Comment by Anniee451 — May 12, 2011 @ 12:41 pm - May 12, 2011

  28. Levi, you’re too dumb to live.

    Stupid and blinded by hatred of people more happy and successful than you is no way to go through life, son.

    Comment by V the K — May 12, 2011 @ 2:38 pm - May 12, 2011

  29. – Obama: Says comically wrong stuff all the time (57 States, anyone?). Media and other minions cover for him.

    Stuff like this happens to everybody dozens of times a day.

    Sure… if “everybody” means, “people who are idiots”. (After age 7 or so, I have never, ever, ever referred to there being anything but 50 states. Ever.)

    No one ever accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.

    Rubbish. Just google “palin stupid for saying alaska borders russia” and you will be able to scroll through LOTS of people who accused her of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.

    YALF. (Yet Another Levi FAIL)

    her assertion that she had foreign policy experience simply because of that proximity.

    What assertion? Quote what you mean, and in context, and then we’ll be able to see (or discuss) if that assertion was justified.

    You will surprise me if you can quote anything where Palin spoke falsely. First of all, you quoting anything would be a major leap forward for you. Second, the candidate instances that I know of involve Palin **CORRECTLY** pointing out that she was Governor of one of the only two States to share borders with a major U.S. foe; something she would have had to account for in, say, her role as commander of the State’s National Guard. Not that that is great foreign policy experience – it isn’t – but it was still more than candidate Obama had, at the time.

    IAOYALF. (In Anticipation Of Yet Another Levi FAIL)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 4:44 pm - May 12, 2011

  30. Speaking of Levi’s stupidity His god of Global Warming takes another hit.

    Hey yeah, that reminds me… Levi did you ever “get back to me” with new arguments/evidence, as you promised one time when I demolished your Global Warming religion? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/11/19/climate-change-conference-all-about-spreading-the-wealth/#comment-612441

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 5:03 pm - May 12, 2011

  31. Stuff like this happens to everybody dozens of times a day.

    Levi must hang out with people who are just as idiotic as he is. I have an occasional slip of of the tongue, but dozens of times a day? Not so much.

    Comment by V the K — May 12, 2011 @ 5:14 pm - May 12, 2011

  32. This talk about “57 states” quotes (there are a surprising number of other bizarre examples from Obama), and the claim that “everybody” does it “dozens of times a day”, reminded me of good ol’ Fern and Lisa: http://www.hulu.com/watch/4160/saturday-night-live-extremely-stupid

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 5:14 pm - May 12, 2011

  33. Sure… if “everybody” means, “people who are idiots”. (After age 7 or so, I have never, ever, ever referred to there being anything but 50 states. Ever.)

    Let me try again; do you honestly believe that Obama thought there were 57 states when he made the gaffe? If you’re calling him a moron, then that’s what you have to believe at the minimum. Given the choice between recognizing that Obama misspoke and belieiving that the President of the United States doesn’t know how many states there are, you’re going to believe the latter of the two options?

    Rubbish. Just google “palin stupid for saying alaska borders russia” and you will be able to scroll through LOTS of people who accused her of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.

    YALF. (Yet Another Levi FAIL)

    I took you up on your challenge. Each and every result on the first page either presents the context of her answer or is explicitly criticizing the assertion that her being the governor of Alaska gives her forein policy experience. No one is denying that Russia is close to Alaska – that is not the issue. The issue is whether or not being a governor of a state that is close to a foreign country translates into foreign policy experience. Plainly, it does not, and anyone who would try to argue otherwise on national TV is deserving of admonishment.

    What assertion? Quote what you mean, and in context, and then we’ll be able to see (or discuss) if that assertion was justified.

    You will surprise me if you can quote anything where Palin spoke falsely. First of all, you quoting anything would be a major leap forward for you. Second, the candidate instances that I know of involve Palin **CORRECTLY** pointing out that she was Governor of one of the only two States to share borders with a major U.S. foe; something she would have had to account for in, say, her role as commander of the State’s National Guard. Not that that is great foreign policy experience – it isn’t – but it was still more than candidate Obama had, at the time.

    IAOYALF. (In Anticipation Of Yet Another Levi FAIL)

    First, I am not accusing Palin of speaking falsely. I am accusing of her of being an idiot. I agree that Russia is close to Alaska. I don’t agree that she has foreign policy experience because of that fact. And while you can come here, 3 years later, and provide a very short list that is a stretch at best, the fact remains that Palin couldn’t. She was unprepared and she tried to bullshit her way through it, and it was some of the worst bullshiting I’ve ever seen.

    Transcript from the Couric interview:

    COURIC: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

    PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land– boundary that we have with– Canada. It– it’s funny that a comment like that was– kind of made to– cari– I don’t know, you know? Reporters–

    COURIC: Mock?

    PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.

    COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.

    PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our– our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia–

    COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

    PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.

    That last part is humiliating. If you’re going to claim to have foreign policy experience, you’d better be able to back it up. She failed miserably to do that in this instance, and she sounds like a teenager giving an excuse as to why she didn’t turn in her homework. Why wasn’t she prepared better? She’d gotten this question before and flubbed it, so why didn’t she have something ready when she got it again? She’s just spamming words. You can tell that this person is not that bright.

    You’re deliberately misremembering this episode and pretending like the issue has been whether or not Russia and Alaska are close to each other. That’s never been in dispute and you can argue otherwise until you’re blue in the face, but it won’t mean anything to anybody because nobody ever took issue with that.

    Comment by Levi — May 12, 2011 @ 6:30 pm - May 12, 2011

  34. Levi must hang out with people who are just as idiotic as he is. I have an occasional slip of of the tongue, but dozens of times a day? Not so much.

    Another excellent post that I needed to see. Thank you so much.

    Comment by Levi — May 12, 2011 @ 6:38 pm - May 12, 2011

  35. YALF. But this one is an F+ (rather than an F) because, for once, you did make a token effort to back up your claims with some sort of example. It’s just a very poorly chosen one.

    Let’s review. Here’s what I said:

    – Palin: Says dead-right stuff all the time (Alaska shares a border with Russia, anyone?). Lacking genuine material for slamming her, Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (“I can see Russia from my house”). Media covers for them.

    the [possible] instances that I know of involve Palin **CORRECTLY** pointing out that she was Governor of one of the only two States to share borders with a major U.S. foe; something she would have had to account for in, say, her role as commander of the State’s National Guard. Not that that is great foreign policy experience – it isn’t – but it was still more than candidate Obama had, at the time.

    Now what did you post as an example?

    1) An example of ***COURIC, NOT PALIN*** asserting the claim (that Palin had claimed) that Palin had foreign policy experience.

    2) An example of ***COURIC** cutting Palin off as she tries to explain what she might have meant.

    However, it is quite easy for any honest reader to see what Palin was most likely trying to say, if only Couric would have conducted the interview professionally (not talking over Palin):

    PALIN: …Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land boundary that we have with Canada. It’s funny that a comment like [just pointing] that [out, like I did earlier] was kind of made [in]to [a] cari[cature] – I don’t know, you know? [by] Reporters [like yourself Katie Couric, who are ignorant partisan wretches].

    COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

    PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. [in other words : *YES*]

    So all you could come up with, Levi, in answer to my challenge is an example of Couric being a bitch, while Palin makes relevant and accurate statements of fact. Once again Levi, the idiot (the stupid individual) here is… you.

    You’re deliberately misremembering this episode

    Not at all. I told you how to find instances where people, as I put it, “accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.” You claimed that you looked. I doubt it. If you had, you should have found this example (one of many) early on:

    Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?

    Best Answer – Chosen by Voters:
    Palin said “I can see Russia from my backyard,” as a justification for her experience in international politics and relations.
    While it may be literally true that one can see Russian territory from Alaskan, two things should be made clear:
    1) Palin cannot literally see Russian soil from anywhere near her house.
    2) Even if she were able to “See Russia from her backyard,” this would give her absolutely no qualifications with regards to, say, dealing with Russia blah blah blah…

    Palin had made a comment that Russia is METAPHORICALLY in Alaska’s backyard. At different times, she elaborated that she had had certain experience dealing with Russia in trade negotiations, observing Russian overflights and so forth. She did it in answer to questions about what foreign dealings she had had and, in that context, her answers were accurate and relevant.

    Certain “stupid idiot” variety of liberals, apparently like yourself Levi, misrepresented that as a literal claim on her part that Russia was close enough to Alaska to see it – and that that alone, aside from any trade negotiations or National Guard issues etc., gave her foreign policy experience. But that was never her claim. And I remembered accurately, that such nonsense had gone on.

    With each passing post, Levi, you humiliate yourself more.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 9:27 pm - May 12, 2011

  36. And once more, did you ever “get back to me” with new arguments/evidence on this blog, as you promised one time after I demolished your Global Warming religion? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/11/19/climate-change-conference-all-about-spreading-the-wealth/#comment-612441

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 9:36 pm - May 12, 2011

  37. Whoops, a correction. I did *not* talk in this thread originally about people “accusing Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.”

    Rather, I talked about instances where people “just ma[d]e stuff up [about Palin], pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (‘I can see Russia from my house’).

    Levi tried to say that nobody had ever done that. In so doing, he misrepresented / broadened my subject into the idea of people having “accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska”.

    That wasn’t my original subject. But I chose to tolerate the misrepresentation / broadening. I am just being precise about who said what. The example I provided at #35 applies to either form of the subject: it is one instance of people claiming that Palin was stupid for supposedly having said she could see Russia from Alaska and possibly from her house… and, implied in that example, is Levi’s subject of whether anybody had claimed that Palin was stupid for having said that Russia is close to Alaska.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 12, 2011 @ 10:00 pm - May 12, 2011

  38. #24: “Sarah Palin attempts to burnish her Presidential credentials with absurd, teenager-level bullshitting,…”

    But, of course, Obama claiming that running for President gave him more executive experience than Palin (Governor of Alaska and former Mayor of Wasilla) was not absurd, teenager-level bullshitting.

    #25: “…don’t you think it’s time to put the media-is-biased! whine to bed?”

    No. Not while we have a Democratic President who can get away with providing one in-depth interview regarding something as significant as the OBL operation and NOT BEING ASKED:

    Was it an assassination or capture mission?
    Why all the different versions coming out of the White House?
    Are you glad the CIA water boarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed to get the intel?
    What do you think of the Bush Doctrine that you blasted as a Senator and are now instituting?
    What about secret prisons and Gitmo?
    The Dept. of Justice is prosecuting a Navy SEAL for giving a terrorist a fat lip, will you tell Eric Holder to stop this prosecution?

    AND BEING ASKED:

    How much of it was gut instinct?
    What was the most difficult part of your decision?
    Did you have to suppress the urge to tell someone, did you wanna tell somebody, did you want to tell Michelle, did you tell Michelle?
    What was the mood in the situation room that day?
    Were you nervous?

    Comment by Sean A — May 13, 2011 @ 4:25 am - May 13, 2011

  39. #8: “…again – this is his answer to the question ‘What was your biggest mistake?’ How is he going to call that his biggest mistake, after the things he presided over? And then he rationalizes it! In the end, George’s biggest mistake wasn’t a mistake at all! That episode perfectly illustrated his lack of awareness, his lack of introspection, his lack of preparedness… you know, characteristics that smart people would have.”

    Consistent with his usual hypocrisy and his knee-jerk application of double standards, Levi asserts that Bush is stupid and that it is proven by the fact that Bush does not agree with Levi subjective assessment of his performance. In other words, Bush is stupid because he doesn’t agree with Levi that he was a complete failure as President. In contrast, Levi believes Obama is a super-genius of the highest order. However, Obama won’t admit to failures for which there is OBJECTIVE evidence of such failure.

    For example, Obama asserted unequivocally that with the Stimulus, unemployment would not go above 8%, and without the Stimulus, it would not go above 9%. Of course, we all know that unemployment hovered at 10% for two years and is currently 9%. But Obama continues to assert that the Stimulus was a success and that it sparked a recovery that is still progressing.

    So, by Levi’s standard, Bush is an idiot because he doesn’t freely concede total failure based on Levi’s subjective standard of his performance. But Obama is a super-genius, even though he won’t admit to failures based on objective standards that HE SET himself.

    You’re such a fuc*ing idiot, Levi. Seriously.

    Comment by Sean A — May 13, 2011 @ 4:46 am - May 13, 2011

  40. When the time comes, it may prove difficult to choose Obama’s biggest failure. (Because there will be / is a lot to choose from.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 13, 2011 @ 10:22 am - May 13, 2011

  41. ILC,

    You’re spiraling out of control. The first half of your most recent response was completely irrelevant. Let me try to refocus and in a minute I’ll try to address your response. This is what you said originally that I took issue with:

    – Obama: Says comically wrong stuff all the time (57 States, anyone?). Media and other minions cover for him.
    – Palin: Says dead-right stuff all the time (Alaska shares a border with Russia, anyone?). Lacking genuine material for slamming her, Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends (“I can see Russia from my house”). Media covers for them.

    The reason I take issue with the second part of that statement is because it is a completely incorrect interpretation of the liberal response to Palin’s remarks about her foreign policy experience. Again – no one ever disputed that Russia and Alaska are next to each other. The issue is whether or not that makes Sarah Palin a foreign policy expert. She had a chance to make that case, and all she could muster was some incoherent rambling completely devoid of specifics.

    I don’t see any justification for you to dismiss the transcript I quoted. You can’t dispute that Palin originally cited the proximity of Russia to Alaska as foreign policy experience, so what does it matter? You can call Katie Couric a bitch if you want, but you’re just making excuses. Palin had plenty of opportunities to explain herself and she failed.

    Not at all. I told you how to find instances where people, as I put it, “accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.” You claimed that you looked. I doubt it. If you had, you should have found this example (one of many) early on:

    I did look, and I did see the Yahoo answer that you posted below and thought ‘I am completely vindicated.’ Not a single link on the front page accuses Palin of being sutpid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska. They all accuse Palin of being stupid for saying that she has foreign policy experience because Russia is close to Alaska. Do you understand the difference?

    Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?

    Best Answer – Chosen by Voters:
    Palin said “I can see Russia from my backyard,” as a justification for her experience in international politics and relations.
    While it may be literally true that one can see Russian territory from Alaskan, two things should be made clear:
    1) Palin cannot literally see Russian soil from anywhere near her house.
    2) Even if she were able to “See Russia from her backyard,” this would give her absolutely no qualifications with regards to, say, dealing with Russia blah blah blah…

    See? The point of the criticism is that Palin was trying to burnish her resume by trying to pass off the idea that she inherently has foreign policy experience because Russia is close to Alaska. No one ever said she was stupid for saying Russia is close to Alaska.

    Palin had made a comment that Russia is METAPHORICALLY in Alaska’s backyard. At different times, she elaborated that she had had certain experience dealing with Russia in trade negotiations, observing Russian overflights and so forth. She did it in answer to questions about what foreign dealings she had had and, in that context, her answers were accurate and relevant.

    Yes, metaphorically, I know. Again, no one is accusing Palin of saying that she literally can see Russia from her backyard. We all know that there is the literal backyard and the metaphorical backyard which can mean anything from a neighborhood to a solar system. You’re incorrect in stating that liberals took that literally.

    Relevance is the key here. I would be willing to listen to someone who claimed to have foreign policy experience because the state they governed was on the border. But Palin had no specifics, and she seemed somewhat content to just kind of leave it at ‘Russia is close to Alaska, Russia is a foreign country, therefore I have foreign policy experience.’ When pressed, she said they went on trade missions (what is a trade mission?) and that she keeps on eye on Putin when the Russians invade American airspace because he gets a big head and if this makes any sense to you then you might be insane.

    Certain “stupid idiot” variety of liberals, apparently like yourself Levi, misrepresented that as a literal claim on her part that Russia was close enough to Alaska to see it – and that that alone, aside from any trade negotiations or National Guard issues etc., gave her foreign policy experience. But that was never her claim. And I remembered accurately, that such nonsense had gone on.

    That’s more like it. Palin claimed she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia, and liberals criticized her for it, because hers was a ridiculous answer that provided no specifics. You’re helping her out by filling in the blanks years after the fact, but that doesn’t really matter. Palin should have been prepared for a question so typical (that she had previously flubbed) and she wasn’t, which is another strike against her intelligence.

    Either way, liberals did not criticize Palin for saying that Russia is close to Alaska, which had been your argument up to this point, and was what I originally took issue with.

    With each passing post, Levi, you humiliate yourself more.

    Comment by Levi — May 13, 2011 @ 11:33 am - May 13, 2011

  42. And once more, did you ever “get back to me” with new arguments/evidence on this blog, as you promised one time after I demolished your Global Warming religion? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/11/19/climate-change-conference-all-about-spreading-the-wealth/#comment-612441

    I don’t know. There were global warming threads before and since that I’ve posted in. Sometimes I can’t post. Don’t know what to tell you.

    Comment by Levi — May 13, 2011 @ 11:35 am - May 13, 2011

  43. #41 Shorter Levi: I’ll selectively edit every other instance of the Alaska governour’s office providing foreign experience you cited because you’re beating me with facts and I can’t admit those.

    #42

    Shorter Levi: I’ve stayed out of global warming threads because you evil conservatives keep beating me with facts.

    Now Hush Levi… adults are talking.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 13, 2011 @ 12:13 pm - May 13, 2011

  44. TL, exactly – heh 🙂

    What do you think is Levi’s problem, anyway? I mean, stupidity is obviously a big part of it. But could he have a masochistic thing going on too – i.e. deriving enjoyment from always being so roundly beaten on this blog?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 13, 2011 @ 12:20 pm - May 13, 2011

  45. Naturally, Levi avoids addressing Obama’s idiotic assertion that running for President gave him more executive experience than Palin.

    Comment by Sean A — May 13, 2011 @ 12:47 pm - May 13, 2011

  46. I liken it to the Lawrence O’Donnel/Condi Rice post. Levi actually believes he’s of a superior intellect, and doesn’t see how damn ignorant he is.

    It’s not ‘racist’ to state that ‘arabians’ are incapable of democracy to Levi, it’s the truth.

    It’s not ‘absurd’ to say that people have to have ‘a good reason’ to amend the constitution, it’s as clear as his face in the reflection on the smart phone screen.

    It’s not ‘anti-democratic’ to decide to drag a majority kicking and screaming into a future they don’t want. It’s compassionate.

    It’s not ‘denying facts’ to pretend things don’t exist, it’s simplifying the debate.

    It’s not the ‘bigotry of lowered expectations’ to excuse the larger faux pau in President Obama’s speeches that he derides in President Bush’s. It’s understanding the pressure the man’s under.

    It’s not ‘holding him to the same standard’ when we point out he doesn’t tie the ‘kill crew’ story directly to President Obama, like he does to President Bush. It’s ‘distorting what he said’.

    Levi’s a child and a coward. Don’t worry, he’ll start ignoring you too, since he can’t win when its his own words that damn him as a racist, a petty tyrant, and a fool.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 13, 2011 @ 12:59 pm - May 13, 2011

  47. And it gets even better than that.

    What did Levi state and cite?

    I did look, and I did see the Yahoo answer that you posted below and thought ‘I am completely vindicated.’ Not a single link on the front page accuses Palin of being sutpid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska. They all accuse Palin of being stupid for saying that she has foreign policy experience because Russia is close to Alaska. Do you understand the difference?

    Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?

    Best Answer – Chosen by Voters:
    Palin said “I can see Russia from my backyard,” as a justification for her experience in international politics and relations.
    While it may be literally true that one can see Russian territory from Alaskan, two things should be made clear:
    1) Palin cannot literally see Russian soil from anywhere near her house.
    2) Even if she were able to “See Russia from her backyard,” this would give her absolutely no qualifications with regards to, say, dealing with Russia blah blah blah…

    The only problem with that: Sarah Palin never said that she could see Alaska from her back yard.

    That was Tina Fey’s mischaracterization of what Sarah Palin said that Levi is now citing as fact.

    Levi is claiming that Sarah Palin is stupid based on something that she never said.

    Levi is claiming as “vindication” an answer that is observably, provably FALSE.

    Truly, Levi, you are an imbecile. When it comes to Palin, you and your Barack Obama Party and supporters are literally incapable of distinguishing truth from reality. You are dangerously delusional.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 13, 2011 @ 4:30 pm - May 13, 2011

  48. So, to review once more:

    – Palin had once said (just as a side comment, and per NDT’s link) “you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska.”
    – Certain stupid people, then and now, mistook Palin’s comment deliberately because they WANTED to make it (and thus her) seem stupid. Along the lines of the quoted Yahoo Answers example, they said things like “Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?”
    – At comment #15, I correctly remembered that kind of nonsense as having happened. I characterized it as “Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends ([such as pretending to themselves that Palin had said] ‘I can see Russia from my house’).”
    – At comment #24, Levi double-incorrectly claimed in response, that “No one ever accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.” Why doubly incorrect? Because it is incorrect in at least 2 ways:
    1) As previously quoted, yes as a matter of fact, some people DID say things like “Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?” – and got respectful responses from certain idiot liberals.
    2) And as I noted at comment #37, Levi’s formulation (in answering me) was really kind of a change from my original point.

    In short, Levi used straw man tactics (blazing the point that he wished I had made, rather than the point I had made)… and still screwed it up! Levi, you’ve shown now that you can’t even blaze your own straw men right! LOL 🙂

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — May 13, 2011 @ 5:32 pm - May 13, 2011

  49. Many long years ago, my son managed to work his diaper off and finger paint all over the walls and the crib with the package he found in the diaper.

    Levi has shown that neither the art nor the medium is obsolete.

    Comment by Heliotrope — May 13, 2011 @ 9:37 pm - May 13, 2011

  50. […] – George W. Bush or Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann misspeaks, the press crows about it. Barack Obama misspeaks, all you hear are crickets. […]

    Pingback by J.A.R.D. v.5.15.11 « Falcon’s Eyrie — May 15, 2011 @ 4:57 pm - May 15, 2011

  51. So, to review once more:

    – Palin had once said (just as a side comment, and per NDT’s link) “you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska.”

    Yes…

    – Certain stupid people, then and now, mistook Palin’s comment deliberately because they WANTED to make it (and thus her) seem stupid. Along the lines of the quoted Yahoo Answers example, they said things like “Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?”’

    No. She sounded stupid because she came up with a terrible answer and she presented it poorly. No one ever tried to seriously argue that Sarah Palin said she could see Alaska from her house. It is true that many jokes were made at her expense, and Tina Fey was the first one to say “I can see Russia from my house,” but that is satire.

    – At comment #15, I correctly remembered that kind of nonsense as having happened. I characterized it as “Democrats just make stuff up, pulling complete crap out of their rear ends ([such as pretending to themselves that Palin had said] ‘I can see Russia from my house’).”

    Nobody has to make things up about Sarah Palin to make her look stupid. She handles this capably all by herself. The idea that there would be a coordinated campaign to make it seem like Palin said she could see Alaska from her house is totally absurd.

    – At comment #24, Levi double-incorrectly claimed in response, that “No one ever accused Palin of being stupid for saying that Russia is close to Alaska.” Why doubly incorrect? Because it is incorrect in at least 2 ways:
    1) As previously quoted, yes as a matter of fact, some people DID say things like “Why is Sarah Palin stupid for saying you can see Russia from Alaska? …Or did she say that she could see Russia from her home?” – and got respectful responses from certain idiot liberals.
    2) And as I noted at comment #37, Levi’s formulation (in answering me) was really kind of a change from my original point.

    That people (who are generally misinformed and stupid) are asking questions about what Palin said is no surprise. Tina Fey’s impression mixed verbatim quotes with the aforementioned “I can see from my house.” That does not mean that liberals/Democrats/the media ever set out to make it seem like Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house. There was never a deliberate campaign to do this, and the argument that Sarah Palin is a moron unfit for any type of elected office never, ever hinged on her saying that she could see Russia from her house.

    In short, Levi used straw man tactics (blazing the point that he wished I had made, rather than the point I had made)… and still screwed it up! Levi, you’ve shown now that you can’t even blaze your own straw men right! LOL

    I’m not creating a strawman. Your argument is that liberals called Sarah Palin a liar and an idiot for stating that Russia and Alaska are close to one another, is it not? You’ve failed completely to provide any evidence for this. I can barely follow your comments at this point, and I don’t know why I’ve spent so much time on it.

    Comment by Levi — May 16, 2011 @ 10:58 am - May 16, 2011

  52. And again Levi ignores the actual foreign policy experence cited above, because, just like the facts about AGW, they don’t match his views.

    Now hush Levi, adults are talking.

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 16, 2011 @ 11:48 am - May 16, 2011

  53. Levi,

    Name one state that borders a world class cold war enemy state that even now is an unreliable neighbor. Name one state that has to keep a Coast Guard, Air Force and Navy presence to monitor its border with a world class cold war enemy state that even now is and unreliable neighbor. Name one governor of one state that has to keep close tabs on the citizens of the state and potential interactions with a super-sensitive international border.

    Now, you might try to throw Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California into this category, but you would be entirely wrong. For all the illegal crossings and unease on that border, the friendly flow of people and commerce across it is little different from the border with Canada.

    Your turn.

    Comment by Heliotrope — May 17, 2011 @ 9:32 am - May 17, 2011

  54. #53 Don’t forget that’s also a state that has to compete with that cold war/not-so-friendly state for available resources. From watching Deadliest Catch, I get the impression that they get real touchy about fishing near their borders (but still in International waters)

    Comment by The_Livewire — May 17, 2011 @ 2:01 pm - May 17, 2011

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