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It’s not the deed, Congressman, it’s the obfuscation

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 1:10 am - June 1, 2011.
Filed under: 112th Congress

Posting the video below, an editor at Breitbart.Tv quipped, “The simplest questions still go unanswered.” Just watch this for yourself; it’s an unbelievable exercise in obfuscation.

All the Democrat needs to do is to say, “Look, yeah, I tweeted out that picture. It was a dumb thing to do. I should have known better.” Some on my side of the political aisle might not let it go.  The late night comics would crack a few jokes, bur other than that the story would blow over.  He would continue to retain his seat in Congress and his influence within his party’s caucus.

But, while he tells the various reporters that they’re there to ask the questions, he’s there to answer them, he, well, he doesn’t answer any of them, offering instead some prepared hypothetical about a heckler at a speech with 45,000 in the audience (probably about 45 times the size of the largest audience that Democrat ever drew.)

“Weiner’s response,” Ed Morrissey writes, “seems odd under the circumstances“:

It might be that Weiner is still telling the truth and just believes this will blow over with the “hacking” explanation and a stonewall strategy from him, but if so, it’s not a safe bet that it will work. The mainstream press seems to be getting pretty curious about Weiner’s Twitter habits, and that may or may not go away with a lack of response from Weiner. One would expect some pretty emphatic denials from a wronged politician, including a demand to track down the culprits of a political dirty trick. A “let’s move along, nothing to see here” attitude at least suggests that Weiner isn’t terribly anxious for an investigation, which raises questions of its own.

If he didn’t do tweet the picture, why won’t he answer the question?

UPDATE:Michelle Malkin says the Congressman is

. . . certainly not doing himself any favors with his Talk-y McTalkingpoints deflection of the brouhaha. Even the Beltway press is not buying it.

Lefty blogs are not doing themselves any favors with wild and desperate conspiracies about this being a right-wing hit job.

She then offers her version of events which makes sense to this non-Twitter user:

As a dedicated Twitter user myself, the most likely scenario is that Weiner himself mistakenly DM’ed (direct-messaged) the “prank” photo to the young woman in Seattle and intended it to be private. It takes just one wrong keystroke for a private DM to appear in one’s public timeline. (Allah wonders if Weiner would be so stupid as to post the photo through publicly-viewed Yfrog, but as we’ve seen from the recent bipartisan parade of — pardon my language — political wankers fromEnsign and Edwards to Schwarzenegger and Sanford, etc, etc, etc — politicians do supremely stupid things when they think with the wrong organ.)

So, he made a mistake. He shudda just ‘fessed up and moved on.

UP-UPDATE:  Stacy McCain calls this the “worst press conference ever“:

. . . we see in this video how Weiner fails to provide a simple answer to the simple question conservative bloggers have been asking for three days: If you are the victim of a crime, why haven’t you reported it to the police?

UP-UP-UPDATE: Via Instapundit, “C’mon Anthoney, Throw ‘Em A Rope!

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  2. What a dumbass. He has had 3 days and not even come up a better story.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 8:25 am - June 1, 2011

  3. I mean, if you must lie… at least impress the rest of us with your smoothness, like Clinton always did.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 8:28 am - June 1, 2011

  4. Weiner’s problem is he kept changing his story daily; now, he just wants everyone to forget about it. Furthermore, the picture was removed. Only Weiner could remove the picture or someone who knows Weiner’s Twitter password say someone on his staff. He needs to man up, but at this point, I just see a Weiner implosion.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — June 1, 2011 @ 9:02 am - June 1, 2011

  5. Peccadillo: a very minor or slight sin or offense; a trifling fault.

    Weiner and the Democrats always settle for scoffing at peccadillos among their own tribe while raging in full voice when a Republican does the same.

    Weiner is a loud-mouthed, smarmy inciter-by-inference peddler and now he has been caught up in his own game and he postures to rise above it for the good of the nation.

    Charles Schumer mentored poor Anthony, but so far is nowhere on the horizon riding to his aid.

    You are on your own, Anthony, and you have done a remarkable job of getting your name into every conceivable word association pun. For that alone, I thank you.

    Comment by Heliotrope — June 1, 2011 @ 9:31 am - June 1, 2011

  6. The Brits are on this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393039/Weiner-crotch-photo-The-Congressmans-playboy-past-emerges-loses-cool-Twitter-pic.html

    Comment by Heliotrope — June 1, 2011 @ 9:54 am - June 1, 2011

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    Comment by [removed] — June 1, 2011 @ 11:22 am - June 1, 2011

  9. Jennifer, did you even read the post to which you attach your comment? Did you even consider the meaning of its title? And please note, we all have other sources than the Daily Mail.

    The issue here is not what Congressman Weiner said, but that he’s obfuscating about it.

    Oh, and please provide your evidence that the club to which I aspire to belong doesn’t want as a member. (If you actually read this blog, you’d find much evidence to counter your prejudice.)

    And how can you presume to know what’s in my best interests? My best interests are for the state to live me alone to live my life as I please, a notion to which Anthony Weiner, at least as evidenced by his votes in Congress, is averse.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — June 1, 2011 @ 11:52 am - June 1, 2011

  10. Weiner’s career is in no danger. Democrats really don’t care how sleazy or corrupt their politicians are, just ask Charlie Rangel, Sam Adams, or Patrick Kennedy. Or Jennifer Tidd, for that matter, who doesn’t care what a sleaze one of her Democrats is as long as he mouths the platitudes she wants to hear.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 1:11 pm - June 1, 2011

  11. BTW: Weiner along with 96 other members of the Bankruptcy Party voted yesterday to sink the USA another $2 Trillion in debt without any conditions. I rather think that’s a worse scandal.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 1:13 pm - June 1, 2011

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    Comment by [removed] — June 1, 2011 @ 1:16 pm - June 1, 2011

  13. Please watch the video in this post to which you attach your comment, Jennifer, and then tell me there’s no obfuscation. He doesn’t answer the questions.

    Yes, you’re right, Jennifer, you do rant. But, since you’ve accused me of self-loathing, please provide your evidence.

    If you think the GOP has become a religious organization, well, then, you’ve paid more attention to left-wing criticism of the party than to the actual activities of the party itself. I’ve been involved, on and off, as an openly gay man for the past 16 years — and have experienced none of the exclusion that you suggest.

    And no, I don’t believe you were ever party of the GOP. It’s your reliance on left-wing talking points that’s the tip off.

    We do agree that we should get the government out of people’s personal lives — but that also means getting the state out of our economic lives as well. And if you’re so opposed to these absurd sex scandals, I’m sure you fault Anita Hill and bemoaned the fact that Congressman Chris Lee resigned.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — June 1, 2011 @ 1:24 pm - June 1, 2011

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    Comment by [removed] — June 1, 2011 @ 1:43 pm - June 1, 2011

  15. Shorter Jennifer Tidd: Let me recite every left-wing talking point in the world and then believe me when I tell you I’m not a partisan leftist hack. BTW, Platitudes on gay rights trump all other political considerations.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 2:17 pm - June 1, 2011

  16. “His DOJ deciding to no longer defend DOMA at his behest was a good start, but hardly enough.”

    So ‘Jennifer Tidd’. Do you support Gov Walker’s not defending the domestic partner registry in Wisconsin? Would you support Gov Brown in California not prosecuting people who murder gays? Please explain why not in both cases.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 2:48 pm - June 1, 2011

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    Comment by [removed] — June 1, 2011 @ 3:10 pm - June 1, 2011

  20. Jennifer, in the video, he was asked point blank questions, requiring yes or no answers and gave a rehearsed hypothetical unrelated to the question posed.

    Again, your view of the GOP is shaped not by the party as is, but by the party as defined by the left.

    If Congressman Weiner were innocent, he wouldn’t need to obfuscate.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — June 1, 2011 @ 3:13 pm - June 1, 2011

  21. BTW, I don’t hope John Edwards burns in Hell. I would pray that he found a measure of redemption and healed the hurt he inflicted on his family.

    That’s how we extreme right-wing religious haters roll.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 3:18 pm - June 1, 2011

  22. Shorter #18.

    “Why yes, I am for people ignoring laws that they don’t like.”

    Thank you, you’re honest at least.

    Shorter #19 “Hmm, I don’t know what i’m talking about, but in my kind tolerant way I’m going to make veiled insults about the poster’s sexuality based on where he writes.”

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 3:29 pm - June 1, 2011

  23. oh, forgot to add, compare this in #18 “I am 100% behind strenuous hate crime legislation, not only on a state level, but also a federal level.” with her attack on V the K in 19. So she’s all for restrictions on other people saying hurtful things, but she’s allowed to.

    Yeah, hypocracy at its finest.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 3:31 pm - June 1, 2011

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    Comment by [removed] — June 1, 2011 @ 3:36 pm - June 1, 2011

  25. Here you bitchy queens sit moralizing about a man who has never moralized about any of you.

    Oh, but he has, dearie.

    He’s called me a racist for daring to criticize Barack Obama and Charles Rangel.

    He’s called me a Nazi for insisting that the government cut spending rather than forever hiking taxes on working people like myself.

    He’s stated that I want to push grandma over cliffs because I believe that Medicare needs drastic changes.

    He’s insisted that I want people to “die quickly” because I oppose Obamacare.

    And now you come along and want me to shut up because Massa Weiner publicly calls for what you, in your infinite liberal whitey superiority, think is best for me.

    Free-thinking gays terrorize Missus Tidd, don’t they?

    Missus Tidd likes them gays down bowing and scraping at her feet, thanking Missus Tidd and her Obama Party for their plantation kindness.

    Missus Tidd certainly don’t want them gays getting uppity and not being forever beholden to Missus Tidd for being so kind to give them what she thinks they want.

    You see, Missus Tidd, the problem here is that you don’t see gay folks as people. You see them as helpless imbeciles who need folk like yourself willing to carry the white man’s burden of “civilizing” them gays and teaching them how to think and be good and do whatever Missus tells them. After all, there’s no WAY they could have opinions other than Missus and be right.

    That’s why I find this statement from you so hilarious.

    Probably the largest part of my disgust in the Republican Party in the last 10 years is how they treat gay people and also women, in trying to determine our right to choose.

    Choose what?

    Because we know what you and yours say about them gays and wimmen who choose anything other than what Missus Tidd wants.

    Here you bitchy queens sit moralizing about a man who has never moralized about any of you. How much must you hate yourselves firstly to be part of an organization which despises you and finds you revolting? An African-American could probably find more support and acceptance in the KKK than a gay man is going to fnd in the GOP. Then, to go on the attack of a man who stands up for you, fights for you, and says the only thing immoral about the gay movement is the denial of basic human rights. I am a straight suburban mother of four sons at home. I actually live a conservative life and meet suburban Republicans constantly out here. Trust me, they HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table. They not only want to deny you rights, dignity, and acceptance, they want to overtur Lawrence v. Texas and make your loves entirely illegal. That you are willing to betray your own and stab those who fight on your behalf in the back, shows what ignorant fools the writer of this site is and all the bitchez writing these responses are. You all make me sick, yet will continue fighting for your rights despite you.

    As you make it clear, you hate and loathe any gay person or woman who does not do exactly what you say. You insult them, attack their intelligence, and insist that they know nothing about the world and need you to help them because they’re so ignorant.

    You’re the biggest homophobe and misogynist out there, Missus Tidd. And that’s the truth about you, your Anthony Weiner, and the rest of your Obama Party — a bunch of wannabe plantation owners who hate and despise anyone who doesn’t do exactly what they say.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 3:37 pm - June 1, 2011

  26. *applauds* ND30.

    Now that’s how you hold someone up to their words and make them eat them.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 3:43 pm - June 1, 2011

  27. So, as stated above, the GOP is better for my family keeping us at a 36% tax rate instead of a 39% tax rate, the Democrats, over and over, are better for disabled/special needs children, locality by locality, state by state, and also on the federal level.

    Especially when you consider what the Obama Party says and supports about disabled children.

    And remember, if you criticize or don’t support that statement, Jennifer Tidd, you’re a homophobe.

    And look, here’s Larry Flynt, who also supports the Obama Party agenda and getting government out of our bedrooms, saying even more about what the Obama Party thinks of disabled children.

    Now remember, Jennifer, your Obama Party opposes morals and values. Your Christian beliefs require you to accept and support everything someone else like Larry Flynt says, because to do otherwise would make you a judgmental prude. And if you really care about your disabled children, you’ll kill them or abort them, like your Obama Party says you should do.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 3:47 pm - June 1, 2011

  28. V the K, posting above is an alleged right wing Christian straight guy. I wonder what his wife/girlfriend thinks of him being on a gay blog. oh my.

    Notice the immediate reaction of Jennifer Tidd to Livewire’s sexual orientation — and how she immediately stereotypes and judges him and the people in his life.

    Again, she’s quite the homophobe and misogynist, isn’t she? Isn’t it funny how she screams and screams how much she likes gay people, and then tries to smear other people by association to them like a good homophobe? Notice the misogynistic edge as she claims women should be terrified when their straight husbands actually talk and interact with gay people?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 3:50 pm - June 1, 2011

  29. Do you believe gay people deserve full equal protection under the law?

    I believe they already have it.

    Do you believe their marriages/families should be acknowledged by federal law as are heterosexual marriages?

    Nope, because they do not provide the unique social benefit of committed heterosexual marriage.

    Do you believe in hate crimes legislation and anti-bullying legislation to help elevate these crimes to a federal level, to perhaps deter some of them?

    No, I believe people should be punished for their actions, not their thoughts. I believe Government social engineering is misguided and harmful. And I believe Government Power is more dangerous than any bully.

    Do you believe that gay people should be permitted to join the military?

    I believe they already are.

    Do you believe gay people are not born gay, and thus, can be converted if they simply accept Jesus Christ?

    That’s above my pay grade. What I believe is it doesn’t matter how or why someone is gay. It matters how they act as a person. Do they live a life of dignity and honor. Or, do they become whining victims, drama queens, amoral sleazes, and social parasites. I know some people who own a house who rented a room to a gay couple who seemed to believe that they weren’t obligated to pay rent (although they had plenty of money to buy brand new iPads the day they came out). Were the house-owners heartless and intolerant for kicking them out? No. Membership in a victim group ought not excuse you from following social mores.

    It’s who you are that matters, not what you are.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 3:52 pm - June 1, 2011

  30. As you make it clear, you hate and loathe any gay person or woman who does not do exactly what you say. You insult them, attack their intelligence, and insist that they know nothing about the world and need you to help them because they’re so ignorant. You’re the biggest homophobe and misogynist out there, Missus Tidd.
    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 3:37 pm – June 1, 2011

    Brutality! I love it! ND30 is Over 9000 today!

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 3:54 pm - June 1, 2011

  31. Just as my sons are who they are, you are who you are, and all of you are perfect as you are.

    You’re just a liar, Jennifer Tidd.

    Here you bitchy queens sit moralizing about a man who has never moralized about any of you. How much must you hate yourselves firstly to be part of an organization which despises you and finds you revolting? An African-American could probably find more support and acceptance in the KKK than a gay man is going to fnd in the GOP. Then, to go on the attack of a man who stands up for you, fights for you, and says the only thing immoral about the gay movement is the denial of basic human rights. I am a straight suburban mother of four sons at home. I actually live a conservative life and meet suburban Republicans constantly out here. Trust me, they HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table. They not only want to deny you rights, dignity, and acceptance, they want to overtur Lawrence v. Texas and make your loves entirely illegal. That you are willing to betray your own and stab those who fight on your behalf in the back, shows what ignorant fools the writer of this site is and all the bitchez writing these responses are. You all make me sick, yet will continue fighting for your rights despite you.

    You have made it quite clear you hate the way we are, consider us sick and perverted, and demand that we change.

    You’re a pathetic, disgusting homophobe, just like your Anthony Weiner. Even worse, you’re a liar and a hypocrite, who claims to support and accept gay people but then violently attacks, insults, and brutalizes any gay person who doesn’t do or believe exactly as you demand.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 3:55 pm - June 1, 2011

  32. #28 It gets worse. She’s assuming V the K is a straight male. If she was referring to me, then I’ve my own stalker. Does that mean I’ve hit the big time?

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 3:56 pm - June 1, 2011

  33. And to be technical, we’re not really moralizing about him. We’re laughing our keisters off as he desperately and obviously tries to spin this.

    That and the Weiner puns.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 4:04 pm - June 1, 2011

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  35. I am a straight suburban mother of four sons at home. I actually live a conservative life and meet suburban Republicans constantly out here. Trust me, they HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table. They not only want to deny you rights, dignity, and acceptance, they want to overtur Lawrence v. Texas and make your loves entirely illegal.

    You overplayed your hand, Jennifer. Too far-fetched… which makes you *not* “a straight suburban mother… liv[ing] a conservative life”.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 4:25 pm - June 1, 2011

  36. What ignorant fools the writer of this site is and all the bitchez writing these responses are. You all make me sick.
    Comment by Jennifer Tidd — June 1, 2011 @ 10:28 am – June 1, 2011

    I despise Bill Clinton and did not vote for him in 1992 because I think he is hillbilly trash.
    Comment by Jennifer Tidd — June 1, 2011 @ 1:43 pm – June 1, 2011

    John Edwards, another fake, who pretended he had such a solid marriage, I hope, will burn in hell.
    Comment by Jennifer Tidd — June 1, 2011 @ 1:43 pm – June 1, 2011

    And Now, the punchline.

    The only thing I hate is ugly hateful invective,
    Comment by Jennifer Tidd — June 1, 2011 @ 4:15 pm – June 1, 2011

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 4:26 pm - June 1, 2011

  37. You overplayed your hand, Jennifer. Too far-fetched… which makes you *not* “a straight suburban mother… liv[ing] a conservative life”.
    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 4:25 pm – June 1, 2011

    Uh, let’s see, the former Reagan Voter who came to the left-wing light as a result of her autistic son and gay adopted son? Who also happens to be the churchgoing wife of a prosperous businessman who cheers for higher taxes for herself? And who just so happens to be critical of all the Democrat politicians in previous sex scandal but is completely forgiving of the Democrat politician in the current sex scandal?

    That’s not a biography, that’s a narrative.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 4:29 pm - June 1, 2011

  38. I am reminded of some of the way-old trolls who played sockpuppets like that… sudden alter egos with detailed, convenient biographies and they never knew when to stop laying it on… Kewpie / QueerPatriot played such games, for example.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 4:40 pm - June 1, 2011

  39. Maybe it’s some sort of elaborate ironic commentary: Jennifer Tidd just decided to create an on-the-nose autobiography to demonstrate just how unbelievable Anthony Weiner’s denials and accusations were.

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 4:53 pm - June 1, 2011

  40. I was trying to have a civil conversation, but as with today’s right wing, that has become impossible, which is why so many of us felt compelled to leave the party.

    Which is, of course, why you opened with this:

    Here you bitchy queens sit moralizing about a man who has never moralized about any of you. How much must you hate yourselves firstly to be part of an organization which despises you and finds you revolting? An African-American could probably find more support and acceptance in the KKK than a gay man is going to fnd in the GOP. Then, to go on the attack of a man who stands up for you, fights for you, and says the only thing immoral about the gay movement is the denial of basic human rights. I am a straight suburban mother of four sons at home. I actually live a conservative life and meet suburban Republicans constantly out here. Trust me, they HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table. They not only want to deny you rights, dignity, and acceptance, they want to overtur Lawrence v. Texas and make your loves entirely illegal. That you are willing to betray your own and stab those who fight on your behalf in the back, shows what ignorant fools the writer of this site is and all the bitchez writing these responses are. You all make me sick, yet will continue fighting for your rights despite you.

    Truly “civil”. But of course, you’re not to blame for your actions; Sarah Palin used her mind control powers to force you to be such a misogynistic and homophobic bigot.

    Astonishingly, we’ve managed to make a complete and total fool of you, and all we had to do was to repeat your own words. That’s typical. Liberals like yourself have no intention of, and indeed are quite incapable of, living under the standards you demand of others.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 5:05 pm - June 1, 2011

  41. I was trying to have a civil conversation, but as with today’s right wing, that has become impossible

    Fake sockpuppet troll, listen to the sound of me playing the world’s smallest violin for you.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 5:09 pm - June 1, 2011

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  44. oooh and now imaginary threats made against the imaginary poster.

    Note how she has to make up insults about me, because I dared to use her own words against her. She then makes up threats alluding that NDT made them.

    Tim, is that you?

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 5:55 pm - June 1, 2011

  45. Trust me, they HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table.

    what ignorant fools the writer of this site is

    That “ignorant fool” had a seat at the bloggers table at the GOP convention.

    You all make me sick

    I’ll wager that you were sick beforehand.

    I find it baffling,

    I’d also wager that the light in the refrigerator baffles you.

    which is all about determining what one does with his/her body,

    Really?

    Surveillance cameras monitor food intake in school cafeterias

    Using a $2 million grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the system will “snap a picture of the food tray at the cashier and we will know what has been served,” said Dr. Roberto Trevino of the San Antonio-based Social and Health Research Center.

    http://tinyurl.com/3fjqvog

    It is ludicrous and unproven to claim lower taxes for the upper 2% creates jobs, it hasn’t, and it won’t.

    Could you please show where higher taxes has spurred job growth? Can you point to any companies demanding that the government raise their taxes so they can start hiring again?

    I was a delegate at the GOP convention in 1984 for the great Commonwealth of Virginia,

    You said that you’re in your 40s so you had to have been anywhere between 13 and 22. How did you become a delegate at the ’84 convention?

    Comment by TGC — June 1, 2011 @ 6:00 pm - June 1, 2011

  46. I just received two phonecalls from a cell phone with a Texas exchange threatening and vulgar.

    Doubtful. If you did, you shouldn’t bring it up here; you should (and would) have already reported it to the police.

    Just like… umm, you know… *Anthony Weiner* should (and would) have reported his Twitter account problem to the police, if it were real. V, could Jennifer be giving us another “elaborate ironic commentary” on Weiner? emulating his behavior?

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 6:45 pm - June 1, 2011

  47. It is ludicrous and unproven to claim lower taxes for the upper 2% creates jobs, it hasn’t, and it won’t.

    On the contrary: it is ludicrous to claim that *raising* taxes on the upper 2% creates jobs. And it is well-proven that lowering taxes on everybody (including the upper 2%) creates jobs.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 7:14 pm - June 1, 2011

  48. In no way am I attempting to launch an attack on the comments of fellow Virginian Jennifer Tidd. I believe her words speak fairly clearly and spell out how she “feels” and believes. While she declared me “woefully naive of the outside world,” I take no offense. I do not know her any more than she knows me.

    What follows are her very own words. I have compressed them, but not changed the context. You may go back to her posts to check out that claim.

    Jennifer Tidd has adopted a strong, narrow belief system which demands that government exercise “justice” according to her belief system. We could parse that and argue, but that is of little interest to Jennifer Tidd. She came here to proclaim and so she did. She has also declared that this comment and all others will be unread by her. Be that at it may, but let us look on her comments as an example of a person impervious to rational debate. When “feelings” meet compromise, it is “feelings” that win and compromise that is excoriated. Such is the definition of bigotry.
    I have lifted Jennifer Tidd’s own words to describe herself in the first paragraph. What follows are phrases and bits and pieces from her stream of consciousness comments.

    To my ear, Jennifer Tidd is a troubled lady and I wish her comfort in her travails. What sticks in my craw is her sense that gays are so weak that they need the protection of the nanny state to help their disabled selves get an even break in a world of hate crime bigotry.

    I am a straight suburban mother of four sons at home. I actually live a conservative life and meet suburban Republicans constantly out here. I am a weekly church-attending devoutly Christian mother and wife… I am giving away my gay adopted son at his weddng in DC to his partner on 9-20, because his own parents, religious and republican, refuse to attend. I think we need to get to the business of running this country and leave our personal lives to each person.

    7. … critcized by right wing prudes … Clearly, this was a hack job and a setup … considering this man is a vociferous and strenuous advocate … you bitchy queens sit moralizing … you hate yourselves … organization which despises you and finds you revolting … go on the attack of a man who stands up for you … Republicans … HATE you all and you will never be allowed a seat at their table … They … deny you rights, dignity … and make your loves entirely illegal … you … betray your own … stab … in the back … ignorant fools(sic) the writer of this site is … and all the bitchez writing these responses are ….

    8. … nobody in Britain takes the Daily Mail seriously … it’s a complete joke … woefully naive of the outside world the poster must be … do some traveling, perhaps it might change your world view … you want membership into a club that passionately detests who you are intrisically ….
    12. … no “obsfucation” … clearly didn’t do it … clearly hacked … right wing noise machine … smudge the reputation of a decent man … harming his marriage … Nice “family values” … their voters hate and revile you … the GOP … entirely, a religious organization … determining what one does with his/her body, in his/her bedroom, whom he/she marries … how self-loathing you must be … I rant and digress … hope that you can somehow reach Republicans into thinking you are a human being … these absurd sex scandals.
    14. … Republican party shrieking about morality, perversion, and family values … I despise Bill Clinton … he is hillbilly trash … I care very much about …. politicians when they are corrupt or morally hypocritcal … John Edwards … I hope, will burn in hell … I would not hire him now to clean my rain gutters … bitchy coward poster above … knows nothing about me personally … Politicians, the world over …have trouble keeping their pants zipped … whether Weiner sent the weiner shot to the ditzbag or not … If I want virtue and morality, I go to church, when I want justice, I look to my politicians … hypocrisy of the virulent anti-gays … more offensive than the sleazy act itself …
    17. I … apologize … for the personal invective … was beneath me and unkind to you … I hate the ugliness between Americans now and wish we could disagree without demonizing others … *I* was the hypocrite … I also know how anti-gay the party remains … the Republican party as an institution does not support your right to equal citizenship … you seem to be in denial about it … courageous … or naive … Lee was anti-gay politician … Charlie Rangel, dirtbag, good riddance, put out the trash … Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas … she was being truthful … he did in fact sexually harass her … He got away with it … he’s an awful justice … preferable than an Alito or a Scalia … idiots like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Mike Huckabee … refuse to acknowledge the theory of evolution …. Chris Christie … does not believe in evolution …basic as the science of evolution … Jon Huntsman … is the smartest, most viable possibility … accepts evolution … supports civil unions … successful businessman … intellect … insight charisma … is crucial … John McCain has zero charisma … Sarah Palin … sickens me on every level … something that inspires people … autism … treated like second class citizens … dismissed … as trash … disabled/special needs children … not TV anchor-Barbies … you all are … reviled … for being who God created you to be … challenged … society … sees … disabled …“diffabled” … differently abled … society … is disabled … lacks the ability to see you as a whole being … not … sick perversion … who needs to be converted to “normal”
    18. … bitchy comments … are not worthy of a civilized response … those addled by partisan politics … full American citizenship for gay people … 100% behind strenuous hate crime legislation … more critical of Democrats …whom I expect more on human rights … Republicans … I have come to respect almost nothing
    24. … Do you believe gay people deserve full equal protection under the law? … Do you believe their marriages/families should be acknowledged by federal law as are heterosexual marriages? … Do you believe in hate crimes legislation and anti-bullying legislation to help elevate these crimes to a federal level, to perhaps deter some of them? … Do you believe that gay people should be permitted to join the military? … Do you believe gay people are not born gay, and thus, can be converted if they simply accept Jesus Christ?
    34. … trying to have a civil conversation … with today’s right wing … that has become impossible … I hate nobody … I hate … ugly hateful invective … refuse to engage in the silly internet back and forth of online armchair philosophers … leave you all to your message board vulgar fights … This is my last visit to this site … but it will go unread. That is why I seldom go to blogs for news or post on them … insult ping pong … the anger junkies … need it as oxygen … Mr. Blatt …firm … civil discourse … God speed and good luck.

    Comment by Heliotrope — June 1, 2011 @ 7:16 pm - June 1, 2011

  49. To the caller, the person who answered and listened to your first call was my young son, not me, and the vulgarity you used and the threat you made to a minor is a felony in my state, and has mandatory jail time according to the officer with whom I just spoke.

    Then I suggest you call the police, because I neither live in Texas or have a Texas-exchange phone number.

    As would have been immediately obvious to you had you actually looked at my blog or in any way done research beyond my screen name.

    And you are also now on record as having deliberately filed a false police report, PLUS a creating a blog comment, duly marked with your email and IP address, that demonstrates a deliberately-false and malicious intent to impugn my reputation.

    So not only are you a homophobe, you’re a proven liar and practitioner of malicious intent to slander.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 1, 2011 @ 8:05 pm - June 1, 2011

  50. Founding Bloggers reports a possible way Weiner might be vindicated. It doesn’t change that it needs to be investigated. To quote FB:

    And lets just be clear. We here at Founding Bloggers do not care if Rep. Weiner gets off on sending photos of himself to his wife, or any other party. We don’t care if he’s into masturbating inside mascot costumes. We do care if he was stupid enough to do it on an open social networking site under his congressional twitter account, and then lie after it naturally led to questions. We do care if he didn’t send it, and he has been the victim of a security breach in his office. That means other elected officials might have the same vulnerabilities which they should take precautions against. After all, this time it was a wiener, next time it might be a classified document. Wikileaks anyone?

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 8:42 pm - June 1, 2011

  51. Whoa NDT, Jennifer was swiping at you? I missed it because my mind doesn’t connect you with Texas… having met you far from there, years ago. Now I see the swipe, of course. (And its ridiculousness.)

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 8:50 pm - June 1, 2011

  52. TL, I’m reading different accounts of that vulnerability; it may be overrated. And in any event, it doesn’t explain today’s development, that Weiner has, perhaps, taken/sent so many pictures of himself that he can’t keep them all straight: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/01/weiner-cant-say-with-certitude-that-photo-wasnt-of-him/

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — June 1, 2011 @ 8:55 pm - June 1, 2011

  53. 46.I just received two phonecalls from a cell phone with a Texas exchange threatening and vulgar.

    It was Bush!!!!!!!

    Comment by V the K — June 1, 2011 @ 8:57 pm - June 1, 2011

  54. ILC,

    Founding Bloggers points to the holes in the defense. Unlike our trolls though, I try to be balanced. (speaking of which… where is Paula. Surely the cub reporter should be on this as tightly as the underwear in the photo…)

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 9:08 pm - June 1, 2011

  55. ILC,

    Founding Bloggers points to the holes in the defense. Unlike our trolls though, I try to be balanced. (speaking of which… where is Paula. Surely the cub reporter should be on this as tightly as the underwear in the photo…)

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 1, 2011 @ 9:08 pm - June 1, 2011

  56. I’m reminded that his buddy Chucky Schmucky has a history of ID theft.

    Comment by TGC — June 2, 2011 @ 2:11 am - June 2, 2011

  57. Gee,
    no return from ‘Jennifer’? Maybe the self loathing sock puppet got enough tiddilation.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 2, 2011 @ 1:42 pm - June 2, 2011

  58. [...] broke, he would have served himself well to come clean, admit, as I wrote last week that it was a dumb thing to do and he should have known better.  Such acknowledgment may well have destroyed his ambitions to become Mayor of the City of New [...]

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