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The prejudiced presumption of Palin’s incompetence

June 22, 2011 by B. Daniel Blatt

It seems that Sarah Palin arrived just in time for the Bush-hating left.  In 2008, as the much (and mostly unfairly) maligned President of the United States was preparing to head off into a constitutionally-mandated retirement, his political party nominated the charismatic governor of Alaska as its vice presidential candidate.

And ever since, those who once projected their inner demons on George W. Bush found a new target for their wrath.  He might be going into retirement, but they would still have a Republican to revile.

So much has their demonology of Sarah Palin developed that her haters remain clueless how this accomplished reformer earned so much respect among Republican reformers — even before John McCain tapped the Alaskan as his running mate.  Indeed, mainstream media outlets were so convinced they’d find dirt in her recently released e-mails that they dispatched as many as thirty reporters to Juneau to sift through them.

They were simply not prepared to discover e-mails which showed a focused and energetic executive doing her job.  The emails, as the editors of the Richmond Times-Dispatch put it, “have redounded to the author’s benefit and have left her critics dismayed” (via Instapundit).

They were dismayed because the e-mails did not confirm their conviction of her incompetence.  Reality did not conform to their narrative.

Maybe if they had actually bothered studying her record as governor of the Last Frontier, they might realize that she reached across the partisan divide to accomplish real change for Alaska, where she was, to borrow an expression, a kind of a post-partisan politician.  They wouldn’t have been so dismayed had they taken the time to study her record and consider her accomplishments, instead of viciously responding to her nomination.

Filed Under: Bush-hatred, PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome), Real Reform, State Politics & Government

Comments

  1. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 8:30 am - June 22, 2011

    Record, schmecord. The woman can’t string a sentence together. That’s her problem. The media’s giddiness about the email release is embarrassing, but that’s the media. They’re embarrassing. They get hysterical about stuff, especially when it comes to Palin.

    But that doesn’t really matter. Palin is still a flaming train wreck that seems to be getting dumber over time. She doesn’t deserve any of the inexplicable adoration that conservatives throw her way. But conservatives seem to take pride in their ignorance, and no one does that better than Palin.

  2. Mary says

    June 22, 2011 at 9:54 am - June 22, 2011

    Sarah Palin, while “inarticulate” to the elites, knows how to communicate with the rest of us. She may not be a polished speaker to some people’s ears, but she can hold her own with the best of them. Ever listen to Obama when he doesn’t have a teleprompter in front of him? Sarah is much better with off the cuff talks than he is. She comes across to our “uneducated” ears as someone we can relate with, even if we may disagree with her comments.

    She’s not ignorant nor are we, so calling her or us names doesn’t make us so. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Palin potential voter but this constant ragging (or is it raging) on her does strike me as childish, churlish, and downright mean spirited (something the left does with glee, sad to say).

  3. ILoveCapitalism says

    June 22, 2011 at 10:38 am - June 22, 2011

    [Lefties] were dismayed because the e-mails did not confirm their conviction of [Palin’s] incompetence. Reality did not conform to their narrative.

    I’m reminded of an incident from early American history.

    Thomas Jefferson was convinced that Washington’s Treasury Secretary, Alexander Hamilton, was the epitome of evil in American politics: corrupt, incompetent, a British agent, etc. Jefferson believed it not on evidence, but on irrational conviction. BTW, Jefferson was also a racist. He did great work on certain things like the Declaration of Independence and the Louisiana Purchase; I’m just saying he had streaks of hypocrisy and “moonbat” in him. Democrats today consider him the father of their party.

    Anyway, on taking over the Presidency and thus the Treasury in 1801, Jefferson tasked a top aide with rooting through Hamilton’s official papers. They planned to discover and expose the corruption that they *knew* existed. They were crestfallen to find nothing. Worse than nothing: they found that Hamilton had done a great job, he had created and run a near-perfect ship.

    I think that’s part of what makes the American system work. Contemptible as moonbats may be, sooner or later our open/democratic system will give them the power and access they crave… whereupon the honest among them discover how wrong they were.

  4. Khepri says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:01 am - June 22, 2011

    And Levi proves that reality doesn’t matter to some people. If they think something is true, it has to be and they will never let facts convince them otherwise.

    Just keep telling yourself that Palin is a moron Levi, if that’s what it takes to make you feel good about yourself. I understand though, the thought that a woman had a shot at becoming vice president must be very difficult for a misogynist like you to deal with so you have to cope with it as best as you can, by telling yourself that women are morons, unfit for office and only someone truly ignorant would show support for someone so obviously inferior.

  5. North Dallas Thirty says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:22 am - June 22, 2011

    Record, schmecord.

    So facts don’t matter to Levi, only his own beliefs and magical thinking.

    Again, this is no surprise; Levi and his fellow moonbats screamed that George W. Bush was a) an evil genius engineering myriad complicated and complex thoughts to overthrow the world and send gays off to concentration camps and b) a complete and utter moron incapable of stringing a sentence together.

    ILC puts it correctly. The beauty of the American system is that people like Palin with demonstrated records of success are leaders, and people like Levi with demonstrated records of magical thinking and anti-intellectualism are stocking shelves in Verizon stores.

    Levi and his ilk want conformity to liberal magical thinking and dogma to be the determinant of success in society, not performance and results.

  6. The_Livewire says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:25 am - June 22, 2011

    Khepri,

    Levi’s fear of Sarah Palin has a very simple origin. He believes that the ‘more intelligent’ (by whatever his standard might be) have a duty to drag the rest of us “kicking and screaming into the future.” In Levi’s world, Gov Palin can’t be a successful, self made, intelligent woman, because if she is, she has the right to send him kicking and screaming into her future.

    That Levi’s worldview might be wrong terrifies him.

    Now Hush Levi… Adults are talking.

  7. V the K says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:35 am - June 22, 2011

    Yeah, nothing more stupid than a politician who can’t string a coherent sentence together.

    What’s really striking is that Big Journalism put massive amounts of resources into putting 24,000 Sarah Palin emails under a microscope. But they have exhibited absolutely zero interest in:

    – Obama’s college records.
    – Obama’s emails and correspondance while an Illinois State Senator.
    – The classified documents stolen and destroyed by Clinton Crony Sandy Berger.

  8. Heliotrope says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:40 am - June 22, 2011

    Teddy Kennedy in 2008:

    KENNEDY: There you go.

    Why don’t we just ask Osama bin — Osama Obama — Obama what — since he won by such a big amount. Seriously, Senator Obama is really unique and special.

    Kennedy was the “Lion” of the Senate, but everyone knew about his catting around and his need to hire Driver, Dicker and Drowner for his lawyers.

    The news people loved and admired Kennedy and learned to chuckle without portraying him as a chucklehead.

    Palin is not allowed a simple gaff. Her “off the cuff” syntax is no more convoluted than Obama’s. Transcripts of remarks are never very pretty for many accomplished speakers. That is why they write speeches and use TelePrompTers.

    When a person such as Palin gets a pack of dedicated scribes who will never miss an opportunity to present her as beclowning herself, that person either stands and fights or gets permanently smeared.

    Palin has got the news people tied in knots. At some point, people will have had enough of the “dumb as a box of hammers” stuff from the conventional wisdom folk and turn against the “conventional wisdom” and those that pimp it.

    So long as Levi lives, the very mention of GW Bush’s name will force his bile to soar. So what? When did it become society’s responsibility to placate the tummies of people who drink a quart of vinegar to start the day?

    Palin said we should not abandon our North Korean allies. Obama said there are 58 states. Clinton claimed calling out the Arkansas National Guard gave him credentials to be Commander-in-Chief. Carter claimed he talked nuclear policy with is very young daughter Amy. The books are full of such stuff.

    When you go to the websites that chronicle the ten dumbest things that Sarah Palin has said, be prepared to be massively underwhelmed.

  9. V the K says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:44 am - June 22, 2011

    So long as Levi lives, the very mention of Palin’s name will force his bile to soar.

    I know. It’s delicious!

  10. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:57 am - June 22, 2011

    Record, schmecord. I can’t string a coherent together. That’s my problem. My ultimately futile giddiness about the email release is embarrassing, but that’s me. I’m embarrassing. I get hysterical about stuff, especially when it comes to Palin.

    But that doesn’t really matter. Obama is still a flaming train wreck that seems to be getting dumber over time. He doesn’t deserve any of the inexplicable adoration that I and my fellow liberals throw his way. But liberals seem to take pride in their ignorance, and no one does that better than Obama.

    Comment by Levi — June 22, 2011 @ 8:30 am – June 22, 2011

    There, all fixed. Doesn’t that do so much more to explain their PDS???

  11. jann says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm - June 22, 2011

    I challenge Levi to go see the movie Undefeated, the truth is the truth. What is up with the way people talk? That’s the silliest thing I have ever heard of, I want everyone to have a chance to get out there and prove themselves, so what’s up with destroying them before they get the chance to? Why do the Democrats/liberals need their media to fight their battles if their policies are so great??? With that known, Levi knows she has to fight harder and prove herself even more so let’s see what she can do, just be fair for Gods sake.

  12. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:18 pm - June 22, 2011

    Kennedy was the “Lion” of the Senate, but everyone knew about his catting around and his need to hire Driver, Dicker and Drowner for his lawyers.

    The news people loved and admired Kennedy and learned to chuckle without portraying him as a chucklehead.

    Palin is not allowed a simple gaff. Her “off the cuff” syntax is no more convoluted than Obama’s. Transcripts of remarks are never very pretty for many accomplished speakers. That is why they write speeches and use TelePrompTers.

    When a person such as Palin gets a pack of dedicated scribes who will never miss an opportunity to present her as beclowning herself, that person either stands and fights or gets permanently smeared.

    You people are confusing the tendency for all human beings to occasionally misspeak with being a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what she’s talking about. You couldn’t reasonably accuse Kennedy of being a simpleton for that simple slip of the tongue, while Palin was thrown for a loop when asked what newspapers she read.

    Debating intelligence with the anti-science and anti-university party of George Bush is exceedingly pointless. Your icons are growing dumber every cycle, and the conservative movement is developing increasingly convoluted excuses for them. It’s the big, bad media that’s convinced the entire planet that Sarah Palin is a moron, isn’t it?

  13. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm - June 22, 2011

    Record, schmecord. I can’t string a coherent together. That’s my problem. My ultimately futile giddiness about the email release is embarrassing, but that’s me. I’m embarrassing. I get hysterical about stuff, especially when it comes to Palin.

    But that doesn’t really matter. Obama is still a flaming train wreck that seems to be getting dumber over time. He doesn’t deserve any of the inexplicable adoration that I and my fellow liberals throw his way. But liberals seem to take pride in their ignorance, and no one does that better than Obama.

    Comment by Levi — June 22, 2011 @ 8:30 am – June 22, 2011

    There, all fixed. Doesn’t that do so much more to explain their PDS???

    Can anything think of a internet commenting trope that’s as boring, uninspired, and predictable as this? You should stick with ‘I am rubber, you are glue’ if you’re cool with people thinking you’re in kindergarten.

  14. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:26 pm - June 22, 2011

    Never being one to shy away from an intelligent argument, I find myself consistently dismayed by Levi’s refusal to put one forth.

    With just about every single word in each of his comments, I have yet to find an idea of his that isn’t borne of an almost nonsensical obsession with packing as many ill-founded insults, ad hominems and parroted talking points as possible into the space of a paragraph,

    When directly challenged in a thread, he flees. When asked a question, he steadfastly refuses to answer it.

    Simply put, I think it may be resolved that inasmuch as a leftist physiologically cannot resist letting his hate flag fly, there shall we find our truth. If they hate it, I’ll support it. If they threaten it with death, I’ll defend it. If they support it, I’ll do everything in my power to ensure that dies of loneliness.

  15. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:28 pm - June 22, 2011

    You should stick with ‘I am rubber, you are glue’ if you’re cool with people thinking you’re in kindergarten.

    Somehow, I don’t think that’s the case.

  16. ILoveCapitalism says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:34 pm - June 22, 2011

    ILC puts it correctly. The beauty of the American system is that people like Palin with demonstrated records of success are leaders…

    Uh, true that… but not quite what I meant. I meant more that our system’s rotation between moonbats and real leaders, and its relative openness, has a way of making moonbats (the semi-honest ones at least) crestfallen when they discover their error.

    Another example would be the Obamoonbats going on about Gitmo, Gitmo must close, blah blah blah… then getting into power and finding out that Gitmo is not a bad place and very hard to find alternatives.

  17. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:38 pm - June 22, 2011

    Another example would be the Obamoonbats going on about Gitmo, Gitmo must close, blah blah blah… then getting into power and finding out that Gitmo is not a bad place and very hard to find alternatives.

    Don’t forget, either, Michael Moore’s thoughtful observation that waging an illegal war in Libya is acceptable and worthy of his full support, given that Obama’s “heart is in the right place.”

    Shaka, when the walls fell.

  18. The_Livewire says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm - June 22, 2011

    It’s funny watching Levi spin. I believe Heliotrop compared it once to a baby playing with his own poo.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Levi’s an ‘arabian’ since he cant comprehend democracy, or other complext aspects either.

  19. V the K says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:49 pm - June 22, 2011

    With just about every single word in each of Levi’s comments, I have yet to find an idea of his that isn’t borne of an almost nonsensical obsession with packing as many ill-founded insults, ad hominems and parroted talking points as possible into the space of a paragraph

    And that’s why Levi warrants a Billy Madison Lifetime Achievement Award

  20. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 12:59 pm - June 22, 2011

    And that’s why Levi warrants a Billy Madison Lifetime Achievement Award.

    Perhaps, with the possible exception that the listener only grows wiser, having seen the terrible consequences of having chosen to live one’s life at the expense of others, then having the temerity to protest when that largesse ceases.

  21. V the K says

    June 22, 2011 at 1:46 pm - June 22, 2011

    Eric, I am pretty sure that Levi considers himself part of the intellectual elite of the left. He’s actually right about that.

  22. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm - June 22, 2011

    Eric, I am pretty sure that Levi considers himself part of the intellectual elite of the left. He’s actually right about that.

    By “intellectual elite of the left,” I assume you mean that bastion of civility and reason known as DemocraticUnderground.com? 🙂

  23. Heliotrope says

    June 22, 2011 at 3:40 pm - June 22, 2011

    Eric, the “intellectual elite of the left” write things like this:

    You people are confusing the tendency for all human beings to occasionally misspeak with being a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what she’s talking about.

    The simple translation, since you may not understand the “intellectual elite of the left” is: If you don’t see Sarah Palin as “a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what she’s talking about” then you are also a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what (he’s) talking about.”

    Intellectual elitism on the left is just that easy.

    More intellectual elitism on the left:

    Debating intelligence with the anti-science and anti-university party of George Bush is exceedingly pointless. Your icons are growing dumber every cycle, and the conservative movement is developing increasingly convoluted excuses for them.

    Man, oh! man! When it is “exceedingly” pointless the intellectual elitism has boiled over.

    And Palin sounds dumb to Levi. go figure.

  24. North Dallas Thirty says

    June 22, 2011 at 3:50 pm - June 22, 2011

    I almost feel sorry for Levi. It must be hellish, walking around with the absolute certainty that he is morally and intellectually so far more advanced than all those people like Palin that are far more successful, wealthy, and happy than he.

    One of these days he may make some sort of connection between his constantly reminding his manager, coworkers, and customers how wrong they are and how much smarter, wiser, and better he is in every single instance and situation with the fact that he is perpetually locked in a low-end retail job.

    But I doubt it.

  25. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 3:51 pm - June 22, 2011

    Man, oh! man! When it is “exceedingly” pointless the intellectual elitism has boiled over.

    Exactly. So insecure in the certainty of their position, so terrified are they of being rendered irrelevant (hence the sheer rage), they strain themselves to put together a sentence that at once appears educated and sophisticated, while tossing in as much mockery as possible.

    Unfortunately, as with the example you provided, Helio, they usually end up sounding like little more than a buffoon with a thesaurus.

    Lori Ziganto explains it far better than I can. Check it out…you’ll notice some striking similarities among some of our more left-leaning detractors here.

  26. Eric in Chicago says

    June 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm - June 22, 2011

    It must be hellish, walking around with the absolute certainty that he is morally and intellectually so far more advanced…

    It is hellish, NDT, but not for the reasons you may think. He isn’t the least bit certain of that.

    In fact, he rather reminds me of the jock who, fearing his own desire for other men, relentlessly assaults the guy he knows to be gay.

    The only problem in this case, is that we already know what our detractor’s motivations are, which pretty much means they’re only succeeding in hastening their own demise.

  27. Roy Lofquist says

    June 22, 2011 at 7:41 pm - June 22, 2011

    It sure is fun abusing the moonbats and the trolls, but here, in her own words, she refutes their every trope.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-god-letter-trig-down-syndrome.html

    Here is Jon Stewart’s’ take.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-blasts-media-for-wasting-our-time-with-palin-emails/

    The following is her acceptance speech. It’s 45 minutes but it’s well worth the listen. I am given to understand that it was predominantly her work with some polishing in a couple of places by speechwriters. The teleprompter went out of sync somewhere during the speech. Damned if I can tell where.

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2008/sarahpalin2008rnc.htm

  28. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 10:24 pm - June 22, 2011

    Never being one to shy away from an intelligent argument, I find myself consistently dismayed by Levi’s refusal to put one forth.

    You’re full of shit. Changing pronouns around and substituting subjects is your idea of intelligent argument? Pffft. You haven’t written anything in response to me that doesn’t deserve ridicule and contempt.

    Have fun playing your stupid word games!

  29. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 10:39 pm - June 22, 2011

    The simple translation, since you may not understand the “intellectual elite of the left” is: If you don’t see Sarah Palin as “a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what she’s talking about” then you are also a ranting, raving dumbass that doesn’t know what (he’s) talking about.”

    Intellectual elitism on the left is just that easy.

    Yes. Sometimes, it is that easy. Sarah Palin is in over her head on virtually any political issue of significance, and this is evidenced by her refusals to be interviewed and the meticulous nature of every one of her choreographed public appearances. She doesn’t know history, she doesn’t know science, she doesn’t know politics. She wears her ignorance on her sleeve and encourages the same from her followers. You guys can wave her resume around all you want, I’ve seen enough of her (and I’ve dealt with people just like her personally) to know she’s a ditz. Have you ever seen someone pull some excuse out of their house at work? When you were in school, weren’t there students who were hilariously unprepared?

    You don’t have to be an elitist to recognize Palin for the moron she is.

    More intellectual elitism on the left:
    Debating intelligence with the anti-science and anti-university party of George Bush is exceedingly pointless. Your icons are growing dumber every cycle, and the conservative movement is developing increasingly convoluted excuses for them.
    Man, oh! man! When it is “exceedingly” pointless the intellectual elitism has boiled over.

    Yeah, I’ve gathered that you have this thing with adverbs. You don’t like them. At least, you don’t like when I use them. It’s a convenient way for you to bail out of a substantive response. If you don’t want to address my point that the conservative movement is pro-stupidity, you don’t have to. But to pretend like you’re making a point when all you’re really doing is critiquing my writing style is kind of pathetic, I’d say.

  30. Levi says

    June 22, 2011 at 10:51 pm - June 22, 2011

    Exactly. So insecure in the certainty of their position, so terrified are they of being rendered irrelevant (hence the sheer rage)

    Wow, I lol’d! I really did. You can detect the ‘sheer rage,’ can you? I suppose I could say the same for you, if we’re just pulling stuff out of nowhere. The thread has predictably turned into another Levi pile-on, and you’re accusing me of being insecure? It would seem to me that the people who hang around here making the same, tired jokes, and who do all of this through-the-internet psychological profiling of the outsider are the ones with the insecurity issues. For whose benefit do you make these crap posts? Do you want me to respond to them? Do you want me to feel insulted by them? Do you think I even read them?

  31. Khepri says

    June 22, 2011 at 11:33 pm - June 22, 2011

    Levi, the way you return insult for insult and never once look at the facts or reality of the situation surely proves your intellectual superiority. Why on earth do you wade through a trash heap like this place and brave the morons here? It it because you are kind enough to have some hope of enlightening us poor savages, or is it simply that you are charitable enough to desire to allow us to bask in your radiance?

  32. North Dallas Thirty says

    June 23, 2011 at 12:34 am - June 23, 2011

    For whose benefit do you make these crap posts? Do you want me to respond to them? Do you want me to feel insulted by them? Do you think I even read them?

    Of course you read them, Levi; that’s why you’re quoting them and foaming at the mouth with rage over them.

    As for why, because you’re wrong. And you’re being told you’re wrong. And you’re being shown you’re wrong, with facts, links, and references.

    What we’re getting from you is the melting down of an individual who is stuck emotionally and intellectually at the level of a two-year-old who has been told “no” — and, for the first time in their life, is unable to cry, scream, whine, threaten, and tattle their way out of it.

    Most people by the time they reach your presumed age have learned how to deal with that through a process called “learning” and its handmaiden, “education”. But unfortunately, you haven’t, and thus we’re dealing with the detritus of having to clean up after your parents and whatever hopelessly-inept public school system produced you.

  33. Bill589 says

    June 23, 2011 at 5:56 am - June 23, 2011

    Too often to be merely luck, Palin has some kind of skill dealing with the media and making them look dumb. Besides this last email clown show:

    Death Panel. Media says she is wrong.
    But she is right. SP: 1 – LSM: 0
    Party like it’s 1773. Media says she is wrong.
    But she is right. SP: 2 – LSM: 0
    Blood libel. Media says she is wrong.
    But she is right. SP: 3 – LSM: 0
    Revere warned British too. Media says she is wrong.
    But she is right. SP: 4 – LSM: 0

    I know I’m missing many, and it’s probably closer to SP:20 – LSM: 0, but I’m sure the pattern is still noticeable.

  34. Sean A says

    June 23, 2011 at 6:12 am - June 23, 2011

    #12: “Debating intelligence with the anti-science and anti-university party of George Bush is exceedingly pointless.”

    I’ve gotten to where I really love hearing liberals like Levi who STILL spout the “GOP is anti-science” talking point. It conclusively establishes that you’re dealing with someone who has sprinted so far into the deep reaches of the leftist echo chamber that they have no knowledge of how thoroughly debunked the talking point is and how easy it is to demonstrate that it is, in fact, liberals who are aggressively “anti-science.”

    Just off the top of my head:

    –The Democrats voted to ban the incandescent lightbulb;

    –President Obama believes that technological innovations like ATMs kill jobs (the same way that the invention of the sewing machine led to the extinction of tailors, seamstresses, and humans working in the textile industry generally);

    –Liberals (Democrats) believe that there is nothing immoral about late-term abortion and that the partial-birth abortion procedure does not constitute the murder of human infant (apparently, the contents of a pregnant woman’s womb is nothing but a random collection of cells and organic matter until it is passed entirely through the birth canal and is outside the woman’s body; then suddenly it is transformed into a baby–COOL! MAGIC!);

    –Liberals believe that they can predict changes in the Earth’s climate years into the future within 1 degree and they’re so sure of their “scientific” conclusions on this issue, they viciously attack and attempt to marginalize anyone who disagrees with their findings;

    –Liberals believe that by mandating certain changes in human behavior such as, forcing people to use a particular type of lightbulb or forcing people to pay substantially more money for the energy they use, they can literally alter the future climate of the planet we are living on.

    These people are in no position to be making pronouncements about who is intelligent and who is a blithering idiot.

  35. Eric in Chicago says

    June 23, 2011 at 6:54 am - June 23, 2011

    You’re full of shit.

    Levi’s managed to reduce the substance of the left’s entire argument down to these four little words.

    Suddenly, I get the distinct impression I’m dealing with a post-pubescent teenager.

  36. Eric in Chicago says

    June 23, 2011 at 7:08 am - June 23, 2011

    Levi said,

    For whose benefit do you make these crap posts? Do you want me to respond to them? Do you want me to feel insulted by them? Do you think I even read them?</blockquote cite?

    To which ND30 responded,

    Of course you read them, Levi; that’s why you’re quoting them and foaming at the mouth with rage over them.

    Precisely. The poor guy quotes me, then, in the very same comment, tries to assert he didn’t read what he just quoted.

    Breathtaking. Now I know how Jane Goodall must have felt.

  37. Heliotrope says

    June 23, 2011 at 9:18 am - June 23, 2011

    Levi is correct.

    Debating intelligence with the anti-science and anti-university party of George Bush is exceedingly pointless. Your icons are growing dumber every cycle, and the conservative movement is developing increasingly convoluted excuses for them.

    Clearly the exceedingly brilliant premise that Republicans are anti-science is beyond debate.

    Clearly the exceedingly brilliant premise that Republicans are anti-university is beyond debate.

    Clearly the exceedingly brilliant premise that Republican icons are growing dumber every cycle is beyond debate.

    Clearly the exceedingly brilliant premise that the conservative movement is developing increasingly convoluted excuses for them is beyond debate.

    Therefore: debating intelligence if you are a Republican and/or a conservative with the Levi is exceedingly pointless.

    Pointless means futile. Exceedingly pointless means so beyond futile that it is immeasurably futile. Much like being permanently dead. Or, dead forever. Or really, really, really, really, really, no-kidding dead.

    Being anti-science means Republicans support tainted food, refuse medical help, favor destructive farming practices, worship pollution, go on extinction rampages, poison the waters, worship the climate gods, and so forth.

    Being anti-university means Republicans hate knowledge and anything associated with the growth of learning. They form communes and weave hammocks and bake bread and do tie-dye and get their earth mothers pregnant and grow veggies and smoke weed.

    Republicans seek out the dumbest among them to speak for them. They strongly believe in the power of the least among them to represent the best in all of them. They welcome all manner of crooks and liars who run straight for the welfare check and bypass personal responsibility and above all, taxation.

    Republicans develop convoluted economics to show that tearing down the economy builds up the economy. That you can tax your way to prosperity. That jobs are created from the bottom up. That government bureaucrats know best. That social justice must be enforced at the point of a gun. That death panels are a myth and health care rationing is patriotic.

  38. V the K says

    June 23, 2011 at 10:13 am - June 23, 2011

    The thread has predictably turned into another Levi pile-on

    Oh, you wish.

  39. V the K says

    June 23, 2011 at 10:14 am - June 23, 2011

    The thread has predictably turned into another Levi pile-on

    Oh, you wish.

  40. Richard R says

    June 23, 2011 at 11:08 am - June 23, 2011

    As this thread demonstrates so well, Levi is consistently one of the few commenters here at GayPatriot who are rational, and grounded in reality.

  41. Eric in Chicago says

    June 23, 2011 at 11:13 am - June 23, 2011

    As this thread demonstrates so well, Levi is consistently one of the few commenters here at GayPatriot who are rational, and grounded in reality.

    And as Richard so aptly demonstrates, a liberal’s definition of “reality” is only as concrete as his politics.

    Well done, sir!

  42. V the K says

    June 23, 2011 at 11:47 am - June 23, 2011

    So “rational and grounded in reality” means “prone to wild, seething, hate-filled rants directed at Sarah Palin?”

  43. TooMuchTime says

    June 23, 2011 at 2:57 pm - June 23, 2011

    Levi and Richard, go watch this video. Actually, everyone should watch it. Levi and Richard will hate it, but it’s the truth.

  44. North Dallas Thirty says

    June 23, 2011 at 3:25 pm - June 23, 2011

    As this thread demonstrates so well, Levi is consistently one of the few commenters here at GayPatriot who are rational, and grounded in reality.

    Comment by Richard R — June 23, 2011 @ 11:08 am – June 23, 2011

    Such as this fine example.

    I’m smarter than most conservatives, this is beyond any doubt. I’m also a better person – you guys have given up any claim to that argument with your morally decrepit positions on torture and wars. If that sounds condescending, it’s because it is. And you should probably spend more of your time teaching yourself things and thinking, rather than complain about the mean people that make fun off you for not being very smart.

    People like you need people like me to drag you kicking and screaming into the future.

    The more one sees the true beliefs of the Obama Party and the gay and lesbian community, the more repulsed people become. Once they realize that gays and lesbians like Richard R and his fellow liberals like Levi truly do not believe that anyone who disagrees with them has the right to exist, they tend to understand far more why Levi and his ilk are treated with the same contempt that exists for their ideological forbears.

  45. Eric in Chicago says

    June 23, 2011 at 3:45 pm - June 23, 2011

    The more one sees the true beliefs of the Obama Party and the gay and lesbian community, the more repulsed people become.

    ND30, with all due respect, while I probably agree with you 95% of the time, it’s that other 5% I really am starting have a problem with.

    This blog was started, fostered and is maintained by gay conservatives, meaning that we’re conservatives who sleep with guys. I, personally, am an Objectivist, Goldwater conservative queer. A 6’1″, 220 lb, Newport-smoking, steak-eating, beer drinking, drumset-playing, fan of Tool, Disturbed, Star Trek and other men, preferably bears.

    So please, if you truly support this site, enough with the “buttsex” nonsense, ok?

    Thanks, bro. 🙂

  46. Eric in Chicago says

    June 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm - June 23, 2011

    PS – I was also an United States Army officer during the Cold War, so I’m hoping that if I inadvertently pissed you off, you’d take that into consideration before you respond.

  47. V the K says

    June 23, 2011 at 7:03 pm - June 23, 2011

    My basic thesis on the matter of Sarah Palin’s intelligence is that someone who was born into the working class and, despite a complete lack of privilege or connections, became governor of America’s largest state and a national political figure is probably more intelligent than some guy who just flames around in the comment section of a blog.

  48. The_Livewire says

    June 23, 2011 at 7:07 pm - June 23, 2011

    You know, given that Richard lists Andrew “Trig isn’t Sarah Palin’s Baby.” Palin as a credible source, it says volumes about how grounded in reality he and Levi are.

  49. TGC says

    June 23, 2011 at 11:12 pm - June 23, 2011

    First Levi opens with:

    The woman can’t string a sentence together. …seems to be getting dumber over time.

    And then favors us with:

    Can anything think of a internet commenting trope

    (emphasis mine)

    Now that sounds very “anti-university” to me. Poor, dumb bastard.

  50. North Dallas Thirty says

    June 24, 2011 at 12:16 am - June 24, 2011

    This blog was started, fostered and is maintained by gay conservatives, meaning that we’re conservatives who sleep with guys. I, personally, am an Objectivist, Goldwater conservative queer.

    Which, Eric, according to the gay and lesbian community, means you’re a Jewish Nazi, kapo, quisling, Uncle Tom, and should just go out and kill yourself now to do the world a favor. Or get AIDS, whichever comes first. If you comment on enough liberal gay blogs, you’ll be amazed at how quickly they start pronouncing you as a) a closet case or b) not really gay, because no self-respecting gay person would hold views like you.

    That’s the perspective from which I view the world. There’s nothing I have in common with the gay and lesbian community, so there’s no reason for me to not nail their pathetic asses to the wall, or feel offended when someone else does so. They’re not me, nor do they represent me.

    Hence my perspective. Dan, ILC, and others who have met me in person will attest to my queerness, my partner, my general harmlessness, and the fact that, based on your description of what you like, you might find me quite fetching. 🙂 My beef is not with those like yourself who have chosen to think for yourself; it’s with the godawful mass of lobotomized nitwits who let themselves believe that their sexual orientation controls their every behavior. THAT’S what I consider the “gay and lesbian community”.

  51. Eric in Chicago says

    June 24, 2011 at 6:33 am - June 24, 2011

    My beef is not with those like yourself who have chosen to think for yourself; it’s with the godawful mass of lobotomized nitwits who let themselves believe that their sexual orientation controls their every behavior. THAT’S what I consider the “gay and lesbian community”.

    ND30, thanks so much for clearing that up for me. Now I get it. 🙂

    LOVE the phrase, by the way!

  52. TGC says

    June 24, 2011 at 7:53 pm - June 24, 2011

    So please, if you truly support this site, enough with the “buttsex” nonsense, ok?

    Here ya go:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n83pzNlNrGU&feature=related

    Couldn’t resist.

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