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As Herman Cain withdraws from ’12 presidential contest

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 2:28 pm - December 3, 2011.
Filed under: 2012 Presidential Election,Herman Cain

Unlike Bruce, I never backed Herman Cain‘s presidential bid.  I did appreciate his charisma and his ability to articulate the conservative economic message, particularly while offering his experience creating jobs in the private sector, a leader who helped businesses become financially sound.

And as an outsider in a year when people are becoming increasingly disenchanted with Washington, Herman Cain had, for a moment, a strong appeal.

But, he wasn’t prepared for the hostile media that all surging Republicans face.  Nor could he flesh out his ideas on a great variety of issues, foreign and domestic.  Beyond his 9-9-9 plan, he lacked a bold plan for comprehensive reform — which Washington desperately needs.

His appeal, in short, was his charisma — his ability to articulate the conservative message — and his outsider status.  But, he couldn’t build on that.

As he withdraws, Patricia Murphy of the Daily Beast asks, “Where are Jeb Bush and Chris Christie when their party needs them?

My question exactly.



  1. We do not want RINOs Ms. Murphy. But thanks for trying.

    Comment by Henry — December 3, 2011 @ 3:16 pm - December 3, 2011

  2. I was/am behind Herman Cain. I am so tired of political boot lickers and back biters, it was nice to see some one from the outside give the pols a run for their money.

    Sadly he was just not ready for backlash from those on the left and on the right. He didn’t know how to play dirty politics and it showed. He didn’t have the staff to counter spin and didn’t have the understanding of how rough the media would be once he took to lead.

    But I don’t think this is the end for Herman Cain, if he can get the right kind of people do do the leg work, his style and approach could actually win him an office some day.

    But I would still vote for Herman Cain over Obama or just about anyone else on the republican ticket any day.

    Comment by Stone K. — December 3, 2011 @ 3:23 pm - December 3, 2011

  3. I’m of two minds on this: especially in the absence of any adjudicated-truth or facts.

    1. Am I angry that I allowed a serial liar, abuser and adulterer mislead me to think that he was worthy of support as a Presidential candidate? If substantiated, what sort of sociopath would think that the truth wouldn’t come-out? You carry-on a long-time affair and financially-support a mistress on-the-side and think that no-one will find-out?

    2. Am I angry that an innocent serious candidate for President has been hounded out of the field by innuendo and unsubstantiated claims? Some made by former personal friends he extended that extended that hand of assistance in hard times that turned on him with lies and claims of false-impropriety? Possibly to just make a desperately-needed buck from…

    While personal privacy is all fine and nice, I think I’m deserving of knowing the truth….if necessary in detail. Do I want the truth? Can I handle the truth? Yes…..

    I want a criminal investigation of ALL PARTIES involved; the alleged harassees, the self-claimed mistress, and Mr. Herman Cain. Fraud, slander, tampering with a political campaign, misuse of campaign funds…the works. I want scalps….

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — December 3, 2011 @ 5:11 pm - December 3, 2011

  4. I have not concluded that Cain is a liar. He denied the sexual harassment charges… and that fits in well with the fact that it was the NRA (not Cain) who made settlements with those women, and small settlements at that (i.e. the women never had strong cases). Also the fact that the NRA (in Illinois) and Bialek had ties to David Axelrod. In other words, on current information, the NRA set of charges could still be exaggerated or even false. On the other hand, Cain did *not* deny anything to do with Ginger White. As Yahoo puts it:

    Unlike the prior allegations, the response from Cain’s lawyer [about White] did not issue a denial, but rather a defense that said that the media should not inquire about his “private sexual life.”

    So the pattern *could* be:
    1) Sexual harassment charges were false or exaggerated; Cain right to deny them.
    2) White’s story is true; Cain right to not deny it.

    Making Cain not-a-liar. I emphasized the word “could”, because Cain could also be a liar. My point is that on current information, we don’t know. It is premature to conclude firmly that he has lied… and now moot, as well.

    Which brings me to Cain’s candidacy. I liked him, he seemed like someone with a really fresh perspective. But for him to be any good as a candidate, he has to want the office. And now he’s announced that he’s changed his mind; he does not. My answer to that can only be “Fine… whatever… good luck to you”.

    The lasting story here is the media’s demonstration of its own extreme double standards. They vigorously pushed charges against Cain that they had done everything they could to fight when it was Clinton, and that they ignore (i.e. not report) when it’s Obama. The contrast shows how they have abandoned objectivity and appointed themselves kingmakers. That bodes ill, for our republic.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — December 3, 2011 @ 5:56 pm - December 3, 2011

  5. First to Ms. Murphy – The party i.e. GOP Establishment country club, probably DOES need Jebbie Boy and Christie for their own prospects…. but true conservatives and taxpayers most decidely do NOT need their hackneyed agendas right now. In spite of his bombast, it appears Christie’s policies have indeed resulted in some promising signs here in New Jersey but I don’t think he’s close to ready to take his show national.

    Ted B. – I am strongly aligned with option 1. In spite of the Gloria Allred side show, there are way too many troubling aspects to these accusations and I’m strongly inclined to believe Cain has engaged in some long term extra-marital shenanigans and took advantage of a number of vulnerable women. However, even before then he displayed a shocking lack of both knowledge and curiosity about international events and even some national things and how they would impact this country. Upon even cursory examination, he really wasn’t a suitable candidate and his suspension/withdrawal from the campaign is welcome and long overdue.

    Comment by PopArt — December 3, 2011 @ 6:02 pm - December 3, 2011

  6. I echo the sentiments of Ted B.

    When I heard the news, my very first reaction was: ferret them out, Mr. Cain and rub their noses in it.

    Herman Cain is in the unique position of being the consummate outsider who has nothing to lose in the great game of politics. Now he is free to send his lawyer after Gloria White and hire P.I.’s to unlock the connection between the two Chicago accusers and the masters of Chicago politics.

    My presumption is that Cain is not just another lying scoundrel who figured he could be smarter at the games that liars and adulterers play. But he does not have my support and understanding unless he takes this outrage in hand and fights back. He has been slandered and libeled and he does no longer has to “play the game” rather than fight back.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 3, 2011 @ 6:16 pm - December 3, 2011

  7. Being a chess player, I’m fond of the aphorism that it’s better to have a bad plan that addresses your situation than no plan at all. 9-9-9 may not have had the meat to flesh out the bones into a true presidential run, but I think the US will be the poorer for it being out of contention. Hopefully some of it could survive in some form, at least as a talking point and a framework.

    As for the accusations, I smell a Democ-rat.

    Comment by perturbed — December 3, 2011 @ 6:56 pm - December 3, 2011

  8. RINO’s are not needed in this presidential race; they are weak, ham-handed, & easily given into the Communist Democrats. We need a strong Conservative Republican. RINO’s ride the wind of jack-asses.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — December 3, 2011 @ 7:14 pm - December 3, 2011

  9. Ted B # 3 said:

    1. Am I angry that I allowed a serial liar, abuser and adulterer mislead me to think that he was worthy of support as a Presidential candidate?

    So… I guess Newt is out of the picture too! 🙂

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 3, 2011 @ 9:26 pm - December 3, 2011

  10. Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have plenty of time yet. Only recently have the new campaign started 4 years before the election.

    Comment by John R — December 3, 2011 @ 9:46 pm - December 3, 2011

  11. I too didn’t support Cain due to his lack of foreign policy experience. But what I’m very angry about now is that the “mainstream” media still has the power to force someone they dislike out of the race a year before the election. It happened with Dan Quayle, and every frontrunner in the GOP race this year has been hammered until that person is either diminished so as not to be a strong challenger to Obama or ignored altogether. The only coverage Perry has gotten is about his miscues, and Lord knows what new dirt they’ll come up with against Gingrich. Meanwhile, Obama goes yachting while about one in every 10 Americans (including myself) go along without a job. When Bush had unemployment under 5 percent, he was pilloried as a buffoon. Now Obama has it below 9 percent, and he’s hailed as a conquering hero. Give me a break!

    Comment by DottieLaird — December 3, 2011 @ 10:51 pm - December 3, 2011

  12. Dottie… It’s Bush’s fault!!!! 🙂

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 3, 2011 @ 11:08 pm - December 3, 2011

  13. I’m beginning to wonder if any of this matters. I attended the Gingrich event here in NYC today. It was a great event and well attended. The line for the book signing was almost out the door. I counted about 10 – 15 OWS at the event protesting outside. This evening in my local paper they gave almost as much coverage to the OWS protestors as they did the Gingrich event that was over 1,000 in number. OWS was so inconsequential they didn’t even deserve mention in the story. How can anyone win an election with press coverage this biased?

    Comment by Richard Bell — December 4, 2011 @ 12:28 am - December 4, 2011

  14. We do not want RINOs Ms. Murphy. But thanks for trying.

    Sure as shit wouldn’t want a guy who was as popular at the end of his second term, as governor, as he was in his first OR who effectively ended Affirmative Action OR who used the line item veto to push for about $6 million in budget cuts OR who was extremely popular with Latins & Cubans and their businesses now would we? If we didn’t want RINOs, Mitt would’ve been done yonks ago.

    Or were you thinking of Charlie Crist?

    Comment by TGC — December 4, 2011 @ 4:45 am - December 4, 2011

  15. Where are Jeb and Chris?

    Hopefully, staying at home and working to GOTV rather than working to intrude on the process and insure another Obama administraion.

    RINO’s are greatly responsible for getting us into this mess (thanks, Bush Elder/Bush Lesser/McCain the Infirm!) and I find it risable that anyone can ignore that and wish another disastrous Legacy President upon us.

    Comment by DaveP. — December 4, 2011 @ 8:17 am - December 4, 2011

  16. TGC- sure as shit wouldn’t want a governor who supports gun control and amnesty. Thanks for checking, though.

    Comment by DaveP. — December 4, 2011 @ 8:18 am - December 4, 2011

  17. Newt toyed with a form of amnesty with his nose-to-the-grindstone, quarter century aliens who turn our to be illegal. So did Reagan.

    We need to seal the border and then start the process of sorting out the mess we have accumulated. With some pressure, a certain number will self-deport. But, the Democrats will throw every possible monkey wrench into the process and they will start by screaming “profiling.”

    They will cry out: “And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis Hispanics in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the–of–the historical customs, religious customs.”

    They will go on to report that the illegal alien hunters: …. “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside.”

    If you think the Democrat mantra about Republicans wanting to starve grandma is over the top, wait until they start in on what Republicans want to do to little Selena and Fernando.

    We will end up compromising on the pack of illegal aliens in the country. The numbers are overwhelming. Furthermore, the specter of holding individuals in limbo as their stories and claims are sorted out will feed the lamestream media with tales that will make the TSA look like Eagle Scouts.

    Every candidate knows this. That is why the issue is about sealing the border first. That will take enough time in terms of political years to begin to get a grip on the amnesty issue.

    From Pew Research: Texas has 9,151,000 Hispanics with a median age of 26 and 37% of the state population; New Mexico has 916,000 Hispanics with a median age of 29 and 46% of the population; Arizona has 2,032,000 Hispanics with a median age of 25 and 31% of the state population; California has 13,682,000 Hispanics with a median age of 27 and 37% of the population; Florida has 3,987,000 Hispanics with a median age of 33 and 22% of the state population. New York and New Jersey each have a 17% Hispanic population.

    The US side of the border with Mexico has a huge Tejano culture and population that is a political reality and is not going away. Whether there is a “reconquista movement” or not, the effect is nearly the same. We are caught up in a growing population that is offsetting the old, low-replacement population of our past.

    And, Mexico is a nearly ungovernable basket case. At the root of that mess and our mess, in general, is the world of illegal drugs.

    I am not clear about how Perry, Romney, Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntman, would approach this problem. Paul says he would legalize drugs. Obama votes present. Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have different Hispanic populations from the Mexican border states and I am not sure how they would approach border problem. Obamunism has overtaken our underlying border problem and reduced it to the bumper sticker promise of sealing the border, but no real discussion about what comes afterward.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 4, 2011 @ 9:48 am - December 4, 2011

  18. TGC- sure as shit wouldn’t want a governor who supports gun control

    You mean like passing Concealed Carry and “No retreat” laws or do you mean “10, 20, Life” for criminals?

    Comment by TGC — December 4, 2011 @ 2:45 pm - December 4, 2011

  19. Crist has already stated he supports his state’s AWB, and the only reason Jeb didn’t follow in his father’s footsteps is that he’s smart enough to realize it 100% wouldn’t fly in Florida. Wanna bet he wouldn’t “grow in office” once he was President?

    Finally, all I’d have to do to knock Jeb “The Third One” Bush out of the race is to ask him one question:
    “Mister Bush, can you name one governmental department you’d run as well as you ran Florida DHS?”

    Stop dreaming of the Perfect Electable Liberal Republican. After how the party got screwed by the last bunch, there isn’t gonna be another.

    Comment by DaveP. — December 4, 2011 @ 5:49 pm - December 4, 2011

  20. Anyone else getting tired of this ‘Waiting for Godot’ crap? The only reason outsiders look good (to some) is because they haven’t gotten the deep colon probe the declared candidates have.

    Romney and Gingrich have plenty of warts, but neither one of them made a habit of hanging out with terrorists or handing out taxpayer debt to donors and cronies. There is also universal agreement in the GOP that taxation and regulation must be cut back in order for the economy growth.

    We also owe Cain a note of thanks for moving the tax reform issue front and center in the campaign.

    Comment by V the K — December 4, 2011 @ 7:08 pm - December 4, 2011

  21. Wow. That’s some Ronulan style nuttiness to dismiss Jeb as a liberal Republican.

    “Mister Bush, can you name one governmental department you’d run as well as you ran Florida DHS?”


    Comment by TGC — December 4, 2011 @ 9:26 pm - December 4, 2011

  22. And would you mind favoring us with whom you suppose the conservative messiah, eclipsing even Reagan, might be?

    Comment by TGC — December 4, 2011 @ 9:53 pm - December 4, 2011

  23. “And would you mind favoring us with whom you suppose the conservative messiah, eclipsing even Reagan, might be?

    Comment by TGC — December 4, 2011 @ 9:53 pm – December 4, 2011”

    No one that you would vote for as they stand as federalists/conservatives.

    Comment by rjligier — December 5, 2011 @ 10:59 am - December 5, 2011

  24. “And would you mind favoring us with whom you suppose the conservative messiah, eclipsing even Reagan, might be?”

    The creativity of Newt Gingrich.
    The executive acumen and poise of Mitt Romney.
    The charisma of Sarah Palin.
    The moral courage of Rick Santorum.
    The domestic policies of Ron Paul.
    The National Security policies of Dick Cheney.
    The immigration policies of… um… gosh, they all kind of suck, don’t they?

    Comment by V the K — December 5, 2011 @ 12:38 pm - December 5, 2011

  25. I am sorry to see Herman go. I felt that being an outsider he would take a different tct in resolving the nations problems. Nobody has been trained to be a president. Most grow into the job. Others never do, Obama a case in point. Herman, at least, having been an executive in the business world offered some expertise. My hope is that The Donald will jump back in, and no do a third party run. AI reaqlly would like to see an outsider, who hasn´t been tainted by the Beltway. Santorum is a loser, Ron Paul is a wacko. Mitt is too plastic for me and I still have lingering doubts about Newt.

    Comment by Roberto — December 5, 2011 @ 5:37 pm - December 5, 2011

  26. All this puts in my mind is the most visible reminder that the left is not about debating ideas or having dialogue, they are about dishonesty and character assassination, pure and simple. For those that criticize the right and religious so often about blind faith, they are themselves so sure of their ideology that any tactic, no matter how low, how destructive, or how dishonest is worth the cause in the end. I can’t see myself voting anything but L or R for a very very long time.

    Comment by Tim in MT — December 5, 2011 @ 5:45 pm - December 5, 2011

  27. No one that you would vote for as they stand as federalists/conservatives.

    WTELF???? What would you know about who I would vote for or not? You shouldn’t be making ASSumptions.

    Comment by TGC — December 5, 2011 @ 6:09 pm - December 5, 2011

  28. You may at your leisure, RJ, go back over the past 5-6 years on GP and see if you can find one instance where I’ve given any indication of whom I’ve voted for.

    The immigration policies of… um… gosh, they all kind of suck, don’t they?

    Which is why I ask whom he thinks would be better than Jeb. Still waiting, though. Bueller?

    Comment by TGC — December 5, 2011 @ 6:13 pm - December 5, 2011

  29. What happened to Cain was just plain vile, and he just couldn’t take it. I hope some deep investigations are done on those women to see who paid them to lie like cheap rugs.

    Comment by The Other Peter H — December 5, 2011 @ 7:15 pm - December 5, 2011

  30. My hope is that The Donald will jump back in, and no do a third party run.

    If Donald Trump runs, Obama is pretty much guaranteed a second term.

    #26, agreed.

    Now that Herman Cain is out, and there really isn’t any remotely palatable candidates left* (if I were American, I might even vote for Michele Bachmann despite her lack of experience), I would start focusing on defeating Obama. Hopefully, whoever ends up winning the Republican nomination can be influenced by conservatives in Congress (if he can beat Obama).

    *I saw an article about Newt Gingrich somewhere that made me realize how unattractive he is as a canditate, but I can’t find it now. But, I guess he at least presents himself as a conservative and is actually believable when he does.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 5, 2011 @ 8:37 pm - December 5, 2011

  31. What happened to Cain was just plain vile,

    And it seems Granny Botox is about to take a stab at Newt.

    Comment by TGC — December 5, 2011 @ 9:42 pm - December 5, 2011

  32. The immigration policies of… um… gosh, they all kind of suck, don’t they?

    That makes me genuinely curious as to what you’d consider to be the ideal immigration policy. Whatever you say, it should be good for a laugh at least.

    Comment by Serenity — December 6, 2011 @ 1:23 am - December 6, 2011

  33. The border should be secured through a combination of fencing, patrols, and military presence depending on terrain and urbanization. Also, since half of illegal immigrants are visa over-stayers, there should be a crack down on those as well. None of the candidates has addressed the issue of visa over-stayers.

    Employers should face severe financial penalties for hiring illegals and the enforcement operations against employers that the Obama Regime has suspended should be reinstated. Cities that declare themselves ‘Sanctuary Cities’ should be ineligible for Federal funding. The lawsuits against states that enforce immigration laws would be dropped.

    When the border is secure and penalties are in place, those illegal immigrants already here should be provided assistance in returning to their countries of origin. An expanded work program should be put in place, overseen by state and local authorities. Workers under the program will be taxed heavily, as will employers who use workers under the program. Some illegals already here will be eligible to remain under the work program, but they will not have access to welfare or other benefits. They will not be allowed to become citizens, and their legal status can be revoked for violations of the law.

    Oh, yeah, and birthright citizenship needs to go. If it’s a violation of human rights not to automatically give citizenship to people who happen to be born in your country, then most of the countries of the world are violating that right.

    Comment by V the K — December 6, 2011 @ 6:20 am - December 6, 2011

  34. I believe a person is innocent until proven guilty. So far there has been no tangible evidence that Herman is guilty. He did the right thing in suspending his campaign. He should be actively working to prove that he has been slandered, If he can do so with all dispatch, he could be very well end up being the VP candidate.

    Comment by Roberto — December 6, 2011 @ 2:24 pm - December 6, 2011

  35. Whatever you say, it should be good for a laugh at least.

    First and foremost, it wouldn’t include biting on a pillow like the Brits have done with the Islamofascists.

    Comment by TGC — December 6, 2011 @ 5:11 pm - December 6, 2011

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