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Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 2:07 am - December 25, 2011.
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In our first year blogging, I wrote a piece on why I, as Jew, wish people a Merry Christmas.  Then, as now, I felt it absurd that people try to strip this season of his sacred significance to Christians who celebrate today the birth of their Savior.  Knowing how holy this day is to those of that faith, I’ve keeping up my tradition, wishing people a Merry Christmas, wanting to share their joy with them.

Tomorrow, I’ll be doing just that with my brother-in-law, celebrating Christmas with him and my sister in their home as per their tradition.

Below, in slightly revised form, I include (as I did in 2009) my original “Merry Christmas” post.

In 2004, when then-California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger lit what most of us (including Jews) know as a Christmas tree. Some reporters sensed a controversy because his Democratic predecessor had called the decorated evergreen a “holiday tree.”

You see, that Democrat, like too many in our society, strove to eliminate all references to religion in public ceremonies and holiday displays. They seem to think that the Constitution has created some sort of wall of separation between church and state. Unfortunately, that expression (“wall of separation“) comes not from the U.S. Constitution, but from a letter of Thomas Jefferson. The actual text of the First Amendment reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” (quoting only the first part of the amendment referencing religion).

And frankly, this Jewish writer just doesn’t see how calling a decorated evergreen tree a “Christmas Tree” represents the establishment of religion. Or why it is so offensive.  Indeed, a few of my friends worry that they might be offending me if they wish me a “Merry Christmas.”

Those very individuals, however, some of them devout Christians, are touched when I wish them “Happy New Year” at Rosh Hashanah (the Jewish New Year). When I lit the Chanuka candles with gentile friends on this holiday’s fourth night, they were touched that I would share the festive tradition with them.

Why should non-Christians be offended by a Christian’s sharing his or her joy in celebrating a religious holiday of his faith when delight in sharing our joy in celebrating ours?

If someone wishes us a “Merry Christmas,” they speak from their heart, wanting to share the spirit of this festival (sacred to them) with us. So, let’s welcome their good Christmas wishes, even when expressed to their non-Christian fellows.

Religious expression often (yet, alas, not always) humanizes us. In the Jewish World Review, Rabbi Mitchell Wohlberg wrote:

let’s put the “Ch” back into Chanukah! And, yes, let Christians put Christ back into Christmas. Let us not attempt to secularize our religions, or to blur our religious differences. Let us learn to respect each other’s religion. Then there will truly be “peace on earth and goodwill toward all men” … and women as well!

He’s right. Let’s learn to respect each other’s religions. We can’t do that by secularizing religious holidays. Nor by eliminating all references to sacred traditions in the public square. Let us share the joys of our tradition and use them to build bridges of understanding.

Indeed, the great Peggy Noonan thinks this might even help the Democrats, writing:

Stop the war on religious expression in America. Have Terry McAuliffe come forward and announce that the Democratic Party knows that a small group of radicals continue to try to “scrub” such holidays as Christmas from the public square. They do this while citing the Constitution, but the Constitution does not say it is wrong or impolite to say “Merry Christmas” or illegal to have a crèche in the public square. The Constitution says we have freedom of religion, not from religion. Have Terry McAuliffe announce that from here on in the Democratic Party is on the side of those who want religion in the public square, and the Ten Commandments on the courthouse wall for that matter. Then he should put up a big sign that says “Merry Christmas” on the sidewalk in front of the Democratic National Committee Headquarters on South Capitol Street. The Democratic Party should put itself on the side of Christmas, and Hanukkah, and the fact of transcendent faith.

Read the whole article and delight in Peggy’s wisdom and writing.

The immediate past governor of the (once-)Golden State was right to restore the original name to the state’s “holiday tree,” calling it what it is and has been–a Christmas Tree. We should welcome public displays of religion in our society and as Rabbi Wohlberg suggested, using them as means to respect each other.

So, from this Jewish American, Merry Christmas to all our readers.

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48 Comments

  1. Merry Christmas

    Comment by rusty — December 25, 2011 @ 2:23 am - December 25, 2011

  2. Merry Christmas and Hanukkah sameach everybody!

    Comment by TGC — December 25, 2011 @ 2:29 am - December 25, 2011

  3. Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah, Dan ;-)

    Comment by Evan Hurst — December 25, 2011 @ 3:55 am - December 25, 2011

  4. Happy Chanuka and Merry Christmas, Daniel!

    Everybody: Happy Holiday Season, however you survive or celebrate it!

    Comment by Donny D. — December 25, 2011 @ 10:47 am - December 25, 2011

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  6. Merry Christmas Dan! And Merry Christmas to all the GP’ers – V, NDT, Live…, Helio,… and anyone else I left out!

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 25, 2011 @ 11:35 am - December 25, 2011

  7. Merry Christmas!

    Some reporters sensed a controversy because his Democratic predecessor had called the decorated evergreen a “holiday tree.”

    You see, that Democrat, like too many in our society, strove to eliminate all references to religion in public ceremonies and holiday displays.

    Don’t Christmas trees have religious significance in themselves? How does calling it by a different name eliminate that?

    Comment by Naamloos — December 25, 2011 @ 1:07 pm - December 25, 2011

  8. As a Christian, I am delighted to wish you a HAPPY CHANNUKAH, B. Daniel. I see a lot of joy in BOTH celebrations, and wish the best to all.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — December 25, 2011 @ 1:55 pm - December 25, 2011

  9. Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah!
    So easy even an atheist can do it.
    Enjoy Y’all!

    Comment by JP — December 25, 2011 @ 2:10 pm - December 25, 2011

  10. A Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year, too.

    Comment by SoCalRobert — December 25, 2011 @ 2:42 pm - December 25, 2011

  11. The Highest Form of Wisdom is Kindness. – from the Talmud.

    Comment by rusty — December 25, 2011 @ 3:04 pm - December 25, 2011

  12. Indeed – I will never feel offended that someone else wishes something good for me. That they wish I be merry and happy, and that my life be filled with love and significance.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah! – and extend that to any other faith that is celebrating a season of hope, faith and love. There are enough loveless and lost people out there that we should not be turning allies in the hunt for a life filled with significance away.

    Comment by Ryan M. — December 25, 2011 @ 3:25 pm - December 25, 2011

  13. Jewish and You Know It

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjbLYXnQmE

    Not very clever on the lyrics, but it’s still kinda funny.

    Comment by TGC — December 25, 2011 @ 4:38 pm - December 25, 2011

  14. V, NDT, Live…, Helio,… and anyone else I left out!

    (sigh) Exiled to the kiddie table again.

    Comment by TGC — December 25, 2011 @ 4:40 pm - December 25, 2011

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  16. Merry Christmas y’all.

    Comment by Sebastian Shaw — December 25, 2011 @ 5:52 pm - December 25, 2011

  17. So to everyone,

    How would all of you react if a Muslim wanted to “share his faith with you”? If a Muslim wished you “Happy Ramadan,” or “Happy Eid Mubuarak” or even invited you to fast for one day and then “break the fast” in the evening with him at his home, how would you respond?

    Would you warmly wish him well on his Muslim holiday, or would you think he was trying to spread Sharia Law or indoctrinate your children with Islamic ideas?

    If you don’t believe in “secularizing religious holidays,” then that means that you have to recognize and be sensitive to not only Judeo-Christian holidays, but also holidays belonging to Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc etc.

    Sadly, Dan’s post did not address that. Not every U.S. citizen or legal resident is a Christian or Jew.

    When was the last time you wished a Muslim, “Happy Ramadan?” Or when did you last wish a Hindu, “Happy Diwali?”

    Comment by James — December 25, 2011 @ 9:50 pm - December 25, 2011

  18. Daniel may the blessings that stem from the celebration of Chanukkah be upon you.

    I hope you had a blessed Christmas.

    Comment by Straightaussie — December 25, 2011 @ 10:55 pm - December 25, 2011

  19. Would you warmly wish him well on his Muslim holiday, or would you think he was trying to spread Sharia Law or indoctrinate your children with Islamic ideas?

    This says more about you than it does any conservative.

    Not every U.S. citizen or legal resident is a Christian or Jew.

    The vast majority of Americans are Christian. And there are Americans that belong to a very large number of religions. It would be very difficult to address every single religion that has adherents in the US, especially only for the sake of ensuring they aren’t offended. And I would assume most of them recognize that they live in a predominantly Christian nation and so aren’t offended by harmless expressions of the Christian faith.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 25, 2011 @ 11:21 pm - December 25, 2011

  20. Don’t Christmas trees have religious significance in themselves?

    Religious significance where, and when?

    The borrowed custom of decorating evergreen trees in late December came to Tsarist Russia in the Victorian era, but never became associated with the solemn and austere Russian Orthodox holy-day of Christmas — they were always part of the purely secular festivities on New Year’s Eve/Day, and thus Soviet atheists saw no urgent need to discourage the custom. Even Stalin tolerated the New Year’s trees, so far as I know. (And the Russian term for a festively-decorated coniferous tree, yolotchka, literally means “cute li’l spruce” — the name has no etymological link with any holiday, religious or secular.)

    And in Western Europe, decorated fir-trees had originally been popularized by Martin Luther as a “Protestant replacement” for the Roman Catholic tradition of creches (aka “Nativity scenes”). So there was indeed a religious significance, but it wasn’t so much about celebrating the birth of Christ, as it was about celebrating NOT being a damned Papist!

    Comment by Throbert McGee — December 26, 2011 @ 12:18 am - December 26, 2011

  21. James, it was Muslims who flew planes into buildings and slaughtered nearly 3000 Americans on 9/11. And it’s Muslims who’ve spent 1000–yes, 1000–years trying to conquer the West, formerly known as Christendom, for Allah. Muslims have never been friends of the West and America is part of the West. And we Westerners have no obligation to be sensitive or inclusive toward a religious civilization that has violently sought our subjugation and even obliteration for a millennium. So yes, I would unapologetically and unashamedly look askance at any wishing of “Happy Ramadan” or any other display of Islam in the public square. This isn’t about “Islamophobia” but about recognizing the facts of history. You should try it, James.

    Comment by Seane-Anna — December 26, 2011 @ 12:46 am - December 26, 2011

  22. Religious significance where, and when?

    Maybe religious significance wasn’t the best term to use. But they are still heavily associated with Christmas. I don’t see how calling them “holiday trees” removes their association with Christmas.

    And, according to wikipedia (so I’m not sure how accurate this is) the Christmas tree represents the Garden of Eden. Other sources seem to give conflicting accounts of the origin of the Christmas tree.

    Whatever the case, the point I was trying to make was that it is associated with Christmas (and I did read the part of the Wikipedia page, which indicated that its significance was religious). Anyway, I apologize for making a factual error if I made one, for not researching the subject enough, and for not making the point I was trying to make clear enough.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 26, 2011 @ 12:58 am - December 26, 2011

  23. It is fallacious to attribute the desire to conquer the infidels and/or spread Sharia law and/or commit acts of terrorism to every Muslim.

    Having said that, Seane-Anna, I agree with everything in your comment. But I think James was asking more about interaction with a single Muslim, one that presumably is not radical nor wishes to spread Sharia law. I hate elements of the religion, but I don’t hate all of its adherents, and I wouldn’t disrespect an individual Muslim by disrespecting his beliefs (so long as his personal beliefs are reasonable).

    Furthermore, I would say that Islam is not a religion that deserves respect. It is intolerant of other religions, so why should other religions be tolerant of it? Until it moderates itself on a very large scale, it is contemptable. Still, I wouldn’t ascribe those detestable characteristics to an individual Muslim unless there was a reason to do so.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 26, 2011 @ 1:17 am - December 26, 2011

  24. Here I thought bringing in an evergreen was Germanic in origin and was popularized in Europe by Prince Albert (no, not THAT Prince Albert). Then again, I think that was from the History Channel “where the truth is history”.

    Comment by TGC — December 26, 2011 @ 1:19 am - December 26, 2011

  25. Speaking of which, why don’t we introduce the Krumpus over here. That would be cool.

    Comment by TGC — December 26, 2011 @ 1:20 am - December 26, 2011

  26. why don’t we introduce the Krumpus over here. That would be cool.

    I’m not sure little children would feel that way. From Wikipedia:

    When the Krampus finds a particularly naughty child, it stuffs the child in its sack and carries the frightened child away to its lair, presumably to devour for its Christmas dinner.

    I guess it might frighten the child into being good more than the threat of getting coal instead of presents would, though.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 26, 2011 @ 1:28 am - December 26, 2011

  27. “Happy Festivus for the Rest of Us!!”

    (Actually, I celebrate Chanukah myself and to
    you Dan, A Lichtiger Chanukah!)

    Comment by benj — December 26, 2011 @ 6:16 am - December 26, 2011

  28. If that Muslim was being respectful and not tryign to attack me? No problem. I probably wouldn’t go to his church service, but if he says “Happy Ramadan” I could say “Thank you”and move on, without being offended. You see, I’m actually secure enough in my beliefs that I wouldn’t feel threatened by it, unlike the sorts of people who file these asinine lawsuits. The people who file these lawsuits must feel very threatened over the weakness of their own beliefs, or lack of beliefs, if they think their belief system could be injured by seeing a nativity scene or hearing someone say ‘Merry Christmas”. . or Happy Hanukkah, or any other salutation. Its gotten ridiculous where people seem to think they have a ‘right’ not to be offended or have their beliefs challenged in public. You don’t have a right to be kept in bubble wrap to prevent someone from hurting your feelings. Come back with your ‘seperation’ argument when you see the GOVERNMENT forcing people to attend religious services with guns, or shutting down a religious service because its not the ‘State religion’. until then. . you got nothing.

    Comment by Ryan M. — December 26, 2011 @ 9:27 am - December 26, 2011

  29. Who peed in your Cheerios™ this morning, James? What a miserable SOB you must be. Does *anyone* invite you to their holiday celebration? No? That’s what I thought. Go stew in your own misery, you puke. Oh, and Merry Christmas.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — December 26, 2011 @ 10:06 am - December 26, 2011

  30. James = Ebenezer Scrooge

    Merry Christmas!

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — December 26, 2011 @ 10:20 am - December 26, 2011

  31. Last year, just before Christmas a former colleague sent me a piece written by Ben Stein as to why he wasn´t offended by people wishing him a Merry Christmas. Unfortunately a recent virus caused me to lose it. ´I´ll ask if he still has it in his system. Many of my associates were Jewish and I had no problem to wish them a Happy Chanukah. They in turn wished me a Merry Christmas and I didn´t detect any revulsion for having said it. Moreover, I remember in high school my Jewish classmates also had a tree which they called a Channukah bush. I think it sounds a lot nicer than a holiday tree. Also, in the last assembly before the Christmas vacation both the Channukah and Christmas stories were acted out. For me it was a learning experience.

    Being retired in El Salvador I think this would be a great place to drive liberals, especially from the ACLU, nuts. Municipalities, factories, malls, major department stores have Nativity scenes, decorated trees, lighted angels, santas. The bags the stores use to bag your purchase carries the greeting ¨Feliz Navidad.¨ Many stores have statues of their patron saint. LIt is not unusual to hear the communist politicians speak on the importance of the Birth of Christ. PC isn´t to be found here.

    Comment by Roberto — December 26, 2011 @ 12:53 pm - December 26, 2011

  32. @Bastiat Fan & Peter Hughes –

    I don’t celebrate Christmas. And I do go to holiday parties. Just not Christian ones, because I am not a Christian. I go to religious celebrations of my own faith.

    Happy Holidays! :)

    Comment by James — December 26, 2011 @ 1:16 pm - December 26, 2011

  33. The hilarity of your comments, James, is how transparently obvious it is that you are demanding “tolerance” while screaming for absolute intolerance against Christians and Christianity.

    Cowards like yourself do not dare attack Islam in the same fashion that you do Christianity, because you know full well that you would be attacked and likely killed for it. Yet you say nothing against that and continue to attack Christians.

    You are a bigot, James. More than that, you are a coward.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 26, 2011 @ 2:38 pm - December 26, 2011

  34. NDT,

    The only “bigot” and “coward” around here is you. You are a gay man living in the liberal city of San Francisco, in a homosexual relationship with a man you refer to as “husbear,”and yet you assail and attack all other gay people for being “gay sex liberals” because they merely want to have a committed same-sex relationship with the same legal rights & protections that heterosexual couples do.

    You oppose same-sex marriage, and praise “reparative” therapy, even though it obviously hasn’t worked on you. Your constant obsession with pedophilia, sex toys, and the Folsom Street Fair that you display in most of your posts is proof of that.

    You accuse gays of “living on the Democratic plantation” while you spend your free time licking the boots of the most socially regressive Republicans who, if they had it their way, would send gays to the ovens. Even “pro-gay Republicans” are RINOs & too moderate in your book. You probably reminisce about the time that all gay people had to hide in the closet.

    This is probably the only blog (besides your own, obviously) that puts up with your vitriolic nonsense. Most of what you write is so extreme & inflammatory that one might wonder if you are a troll created by liberals & the Democratic Party, just to make all gay conservatives look bad.

    Comment by James — December 26, 2011 @ 5:02 pm - December 26, 2011

  35. the most socially regressive Republicans who, if they had it their way, would send gays to the ovens.

    Ah, you still have your talking points memo handy.

    one might wonder if you are a troll created by liberals & the Democratic Party

    Well that WOULD be the party that lynched blacks to keep them from voting and does a piss poor job of hiding their hatred for Jews.

    Comment by TGC — December 26, 2011 @ 5:24 pm - December 26, 2011

  36. Actually, James, no one believes for a minute that you are interested in committed relationships. You are lying to cover up your anti-Christian and anti-Republican bigotry and hate, exemplified by your remark that all Christians and conservatives want to put gays in concentration camps and murder them.

    What makes your rhetoric particularly sick and disgusting is that you and your Ibama Party endorse and support regimes like Iran, Saddam’s Iraq, and the Palestinian Authority that openly advocate and carry out executions of gays, women, Christians and Jews.

    You are a bigot making excuses for your bigotry, James. Your hate mongering attack on me and my partner for daring to have a committed relationship shows how much of a liar you are. You are intolerant, bigoted, and cowardly.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 26, 2011 @ 6:48 pm - December 26, 2011

  37. Meanwhile, anyone want to see how little bootlicking plantation gay doesn’t mind discrimination when his Obama massas are doing it?

    Or employment discrimination?

    Or how about how James endorses and supports what he claims is “homophobic” — saying that marriage is between a man and a woman?

    Those facts, James, are why you and your fellow cowards have to shriek that Republicans and Christians want to put gays in concentration camps. You are such pathetic, sniveling little toadies that you can’t hold your Obama massas to ANY standards, so you lie about conservatives instead.

    Sick, disgusting little pervert. Your sexual orientation makes you a liar and anti-religious bigot, doesn’t it, James? Go ahead, admit that all “real gays” lie about Republicans, loathe Christians, and will say and do anything to keep Obama in power.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 26, 2011 @ 7:08 pm - December 26, 2011

  38. And how about seeing the behavior that sick little Obama gays like James support and endorse, hm? How about supporting rape of conservatives and screaming that criticism of their attacks on disabled children is “homophobic”?

    Or how about James and his disgusting fellow “real gays” trying to scare off investigation of child abuse by calling it “homophobic”?

    Notice again that I have links for every one of these — while all James can do is shriek and scream that all Republicans, conservatives, and Christians want to put gays in death camps.

    James is a liar, a coward, a bigot, and a hypocrite. And he acts that way because of his sexual orientation.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 26, 2011 @ 7:21 pm - December 26, 2011

  39. getting away from the name-calling and the bigotry expressed by James (the Øbot), I am getting back to the Christmas tree and its origin.

    First of all, the Wikpedia entry as explained here is absolute mushroom fodder. It was correct on one point alone – the Germanic origin, but even that is not necessarily correct.

    The Christmas tree was introduced by early Christians – at least pre-Reformation and post A.D. 400 or thereabouts. It is associated with the spread of Christianity to pagan lands.

    In some of those regions, and Germany was one of them, the pagans worshipped trees as though they were gods. In our modern terminology they were tree-huggers who thought that gods resided in the trees. This meant that the pagan people were superstitous about trees. Those early Christians were attempting to remove that superstition and to prove that trees were not gods.

    However, the placing of baubles and other things on the Christmas tree was a later tradition.

    Many of those things that are decried by some “Christians” for being pagan, and normally as a slur against the Catholic Church have a very logical explanation in that those early Christians were using the pagan holidays to best effect and to reinforce Christianity at the same time.

    Chanukka is a wonderful holdiday in which to also celebrate the birth of Christ. To a Christian the best way of understanding Chanukka is to think of it as the festival of lights (significance being on “I am the Light of the World”) It is the time for us to remember that Jews had also suffered persecution and were willing to die rather than give in to the pagans. Chanukka is a very powerful inspiration for Christians who actually understand the whole story. The rededication of the Temple in Jerusalem is therefore very significant because the statue of Apollo (I think that was the correct one that was placed in the Temple) was removed and the Temple was made holy once again.

    To Christians the birth of Jesus Christ is the return of YHWY to the Temple. Jesus Christ to us is the Light of the World.

    In a way the Christmas Tree represents both the Jewish holiday of Chanukka and the birth of Christ. When we light up the Christmas Tree we should be able to recall both of these events – their true significance and real meaning. Commercialization however, has blurred the purpose of such things.

    Comment by Straightaussie — December 26, 2011 @ 8:24 pm - December 26, 2011

  40. Those facts, James, are why you and your fellow cowards have to shriek that Republicans and Christians want to put gays in concentration camps.

    More of the liberal fear mongering to keep the obedient little faggots in line.

    Comment by TGC — December 26, 2011 @ 8:36 pm - December 26, 2011

  41. Yes, James. Republicans like RObert Byrd.

    Comment by Ryan M. — December 26, 2011 @ 10:01 pm - December 26, 2011

  42. Just found a charity that folks can donate to, if you still have a few bucks. There’s this guy who’s restoring MANOS: The Hands of Fate to HD. He needs at least $10k. That’s a worthy cause, right?

    http://www.manosinhd.com/

    TV’s Frank keeps plugging it on Facebook.

    Comment by TGC — December 26, 2011 @ 10:51 pm - December 26, 2011

  43. socially regressive Republicans who, if they had it their way, would send gays to the ovens.

    That is one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever heard.

    Thanks for giving yet another example of the well-documented bigotry of the left.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 27, 2011 @ 12:27 am - December 27, 2011

  44. The love of Christ extends to all here and I have you in my heart.

    James, I love you. I am a social conservative who would give his life to keep you safe from the ovens you fear. This I pledge.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 27, 2011 @ 8:17 am - December 27, 2011

  45. James, I love you. I am a social conservative who would give his life to keep you safe from the ovens you fear. This I pledge.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 27, 2011 @ 8:17 am – December 27, 2011

    I think we miss another fundamental point, Heliotrope.

    James, Levi, Evan Hurst, Rob Tisinai, and the rest of the left that obsess about concentration camps for gays do so for one simple reason: they are merely assuming that conservatives would do to them what they want to do to conservatives.

    Hilariously, they shriek about Obama assassination art — but revel in their own.

    Your sentiments, Heliotrope, are utterly foreign to them. The Left has no use for human life that cannot be bent to their own purposes. If children are inconvenient or unneeded for political props, they are killed. If the poor cannot be used to extort money from others, they are discarded. Political opponents and those who would criticize the Left and the Obama Party are subhuman and can be exterminated.

    It is the true image of Christ that you can and would sacrifice yourself for someone like James who would just as rather see you killed for your faith. This is because you believe in something that goes beyond the flavor of the moment and value of the minute. This is why the Left and the Obama Party are so hostile to religious belief, and in particular to Christianity and Judaism; faiths that place value on going in the opposite direction of rank self-interest undercut and destroy the fundamental goals and value systems that the Left seeks to incalculate.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2011 @ 11:09 am - December 27, 2011

  46. Hilariously, they shriek about Obama assassination art

    As that link points out, they shriek about much less than “Obama assassination art” (namely a sign reading “Abort Obama Not the Unborn,” which given the definition of “abort,” is clearly not a death threat; and a shirt calling Obama a socialist).

    It is also important to remember that the alleged (as of yet unproven, as well as isolated) spitting on of a black man at a tea party event caused widespread condemnation and outrage, but the numerous death wishes against various people (such as wall street executives) at OWS caused nary a word from leftists (including Obama, who, of course, endorsed OWS).

    Anecdotally, I have never seen a conservative wish for Obama’s death. The only people conservatives wish death upon are people who have actually killed other people. And I’m willing to bet that those Bush-death wishers would fiercely oppose the execution of an actual murderer, all while supporting the abortion of an innocent foetus.

    Comment by Naamloos — December 27, 2011 @ 11:56 am - December 27, 2011

  47. NDT,

    I know. But I can do no less than pray that James can see the light.

    Comment by Heliotrope — December 27, 2011 @ 1:00 pm - December 27, 2011

  48. Anecdotally, I have never seen a conservative wish for Obama’s death. The only people conservatives wish death upon are people who have actually killed other people. And I’m willing to bet that those Bush-death wishers would fiercely oppose the execution of an actual murderer, all while supporting the abortion of an innocent foetus.

    Namloos, you hit upon the fundamental contradiction of the left — and what I think is a window into their personality.

    They fundamentally oppose the death penalty for those who kill or facilitate killing. Bill Ayers is an Obama Party hero. Mumia is an Obama Party hero. Kill a police officer, kill a conservative, or facilitate the killing of our soldiers, such as did LGBT hero Bradley Manning, and you have the full protection and defense of the Obama Party and the gay and lesbian community. Yet be an innocent, unborn child, and you are nothing but medical waste that they not only encourage removing, but demand be done at taxpayer expense.

    When you look at all of these, the one unifying factor is inconvenience. Conservatives, Christians, Jews, Republicans, police officers, and soldiers inconvenience leftists, so they must be removed and killed. Babies inconvenience those who wish to be promiscuous and have sex without responsibility, so they must be killed. Old people inconvenience their liberal offspring who don’t want to pay for their care, so they must be killed. Your reason for existing is solely to service leftist needs, and if you don’t, you have no right to exist.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — December 27, 2011 @ 1:32 pm - December 27, 2011

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