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Richard Grenell steps down from Romney campaign

Just learned that Richard Grenell, the Romney campaign’s foreign policy spokesman has stepped down.  And also learned that he “was in the process of moving from Los Angeles to Boston.”  Didn’t know he was out here.  Although we are both gay conservatives, our paths have not crossed.

According to Jennifer Rubin who broke the story, Grenell issued this statement earlier today:

I have decided to resign from the Romney campaign as the Foreign Policy and National Security Spokesman. While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign. I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team.

It is unfortunate that certain social conservatives made much of Grenell’s sexuality.   Rubin finds that Romney camp’s expression of disappointment on the resignation serves as “a subtle retort to those calling for Grenell’s head, that he was not hired to advise on gay issues but on foreign policy matters.”  Emphasis added.   (Read the whole thing.)

Just because you hire a gay man for a job doesn’t mean you support the agenda of the left-wing gay groups.

And just because Grenell shares Mitt Romney’s foreign policy goals doesn’t mean the two men see eye to eye on every issue.  It is thus absurd to think, as one social conservative quoted in Rubin’s piece suggests, that Grenell might “decamp from Romney to Obama” should that latter come out in favor of federal recognition of same-sex marriage.  Does he really think gay people are so shallow that we’d back a candidate just because he has a better record on gay issues even when we disagree with him on nearly every other issue?

Rubin reports that the Romney campaign wanted to keep him on.

Media coverage, however, made Grenell’s personal life rather than his experience and foreign policy credentials the focus in stories about his appointment.  It’s not just social conservatives who are to blame.  The media are also to blame for sensationalizing this.

That said, social conservatives’ choice to focus on an aspect of Grenell’s private life irrelevant to his capacity to serve must have made this a trying time for this supremely qualified conservative.

Allahpundit offers an interesting observation:

From National Journal: “A source close to the Romney campaign denied that Grenell resigned because of complaints about his sexual orientation. Rather, the source said, Grenell had become a story himself, which a spokesman should never do.”

Even so, he points out that “some prominent social cons. . . objected to Grenell’s hiring”:

Tony Perkins’s Family Research Council criticized Romney for it here (scroll down) and both Gary Bauer and Dan Gainor of the Media Research Center have complained about it. Did any one of them turn up the pressure on Romney privately?

Grenell’s sexual orientation is irrelevant to his ability to serve as Romney’s foreign policy spokesman.  Heck, he’s worked in a similar capacity for other prominent–and respected–conservatives for years.  And he didn’t leave his party even as gay groups demonized Republicans.  And even when a Republican president came out in support of an amendment which would enshrine the traditional definition of marriage in the federal constitution.

This is not one of the Republican Party’s best days.

NB:  Tweaked the post to make the parts just before the “jump” clearer.

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  1. I’m giving the Romney campaign a pass on this one, unless I hear more damning details.

    Grenell was not scheduled to start working for the campaign until May 1. But he resigned on April 30th. He was not kept under wraps; he wasn’t even officially working for the campaign.

    Grenell is also an outspoken proponent of gay marriage who has harshly criticized Obama for not supporting gay marriage enough. Romney is even more opposed to gay marriage than Obama is. Many conservatives are. I am, and I’m gay. Perhaps the truth is that Grenell knew he would have to be even harsher towards his own President, and he did not want to take that path while being employed by him for different purposes (foreign policy advising).

    Comment by mike devx — May 2, 2012 @ 7:13 pm - May 2, 2012

  2. All I see are self-loathers who are desperate to be called “legitimate”. Really quite sad you are so willing to crawl and be spat on by the folks you want acceptance from. Tragic really.

    I don’t wish you well at all. Perhaps a stop at Marcus’ pray-the-gay-away federally funded shop of horrors would do you well?

    Comment by Al in SoCal — May 2, 2012 @ 7:19 pm - May 2, 2012

  3. Let’s set gay rights back to the ’50’s. They are so sure Obama will repeal DOMA, but do you really believe he wants gay marriage to be his legacy? If passed, gay marriage will impact the country for decades — in other words — a legal mess.

    Comment by Greg — May 2, 2012 @ 7:51 pm - May 2, 2012

  4. It’s hard for a progressive supporter of gay rights to read the comments here. To be gay and conservative, to be black and conservative, to be poor and conservative, is a contradiction in terms.

    Tell me, please, what on earth one’s sexual orientation (or skin colour) has to do with anything. It has nothing to do with taxes, regulations, national defense, et cetera. It has barely anything to do with most cultural issues. You are a bigot because you view gay people as nothing but gay, and you view black people as nothing but black. It is that simple. Furthermore, you inaccurately believe Christians and conservatives are homophobes. You progressives are always calling conservatives “simple” because they view things in “black and white,” which is hilarious given what you think of blacks, gays, Christians, and conservatives (and your positions seem to be quite common among progressives). You simple, narrow-minded, bigoted progressives have given me much entertainment, so, for that, I thank you from my ice cold, right-wing, fascist, f*ggot, Jewish Nazi, black KKK heart.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — May 2, 2012 @ 8:02 pm - May 2, 2012

  5. What is with all of these ignorant progressives commenting with their “self-hating” slurs? My guess is that they are all either the same person, or that a link to this post was put up at Daily Kos or something.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — May 2, 2012 @ 8:04 pm - May 2, 2012

  6. Rattlesnake, they can’t help themselves. Instead of engaging their ideological adversaries, they prefer to attack them.

    Comment by B. Daniel Blatt — May 2, 2012 @ 8:13 pm - May 2, 2012

  7. Folks, coming here from the Daily Kos link is sort of like a trip to another plane of existence: one where gays who call themselves conservatives twist their logic and feelings over this matter into pretzels of justification and defense of a political party that was – to some degree – hijacked quite some time ago by religious fanatics and borderline fascists who happen to know how to drive media eyeballs. This ain’t your grandfather’s GOP anymore – hell, it ain’t your older sibling’s GOP! It is a far-right and white socially conservative movement that cares NOT ONE WHIT about the conservative fiscal values so many of you espouse. You would be MUCH MORE WELCOME in the Libertarian Party where they don’t give a damn about your sexual orientation. As for me and all my straight AND gay friends, we’re all real happy supporting the President and some of us are working hard to make it possible for some of you to get married – that is, if you want to, it should be your choice. And you know, that’s really what it all boils down to: fairness. I agree with you, it’s NOT FAIR that Grenell was forced to resign because his personal life was a distraction; but that doesn’t seem to matter to a lot of your fellow Republicans – they ain’t about being fair, they’re all about winning, no matter who gets hurt or who’s career is destroyed. That’s not the America I love and fight for: fairness, equality, decency and respect. Respectfully, I don’t see a lot of that coming out of Republicans mouths – even when it comes to each other. Perhaps if you “owned” these truths, you MIGHT begin to generate some change from within, but I doubt it.

    Comment by sdtrueman — May 2, 2012 @ 8:33 pm - May 2, 2012

  8. That’s funny, sdtrueman; we don’t see you and your fellow Kos Kidz condemning your Howard Dean for employment discrimination, your Jesse Jackson for sexual harassment, and your Obama Party for endorsing and supporting the Federal Marriage Amendment.

    So what’s pretty obvious is that you and your fellow Kos Kidz are antigay bigots who actually hate gay and lesbian people and lie to them about your “support”.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 2, 2012 @ 10:03 pm - May 2, 2012

  9. That’s not the America I love and fight for: fairness, equality, decency and respect.

    Comment by sdtrueman — May 2, 2012 @ 8:33 pm – May 2, 2012

    LMAO.

    Kos Kidz like you support and endorse tax cheats and welfare frauds as your leaders.

    Kos Kidz like yourself support and endorse outright criminal behavior and fraud in the name of Obama donations.

    Kos Kidz like yourself attack disabled children and call it “decent”.

    Nothing but lies from you Kos Kidz. Nothing but lies. You can continue to try to delude yourself, but you aren’t fooling anyone here.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — May 2, 2012 @ 10:08 pm - May 2, 2012

  10. So, there is a link at Daily Kos?

    one where gays who call themselves conservatives twist their logic and feelings over this matter into pretzels of justification and defense

    Please cite a specific example of where this happened.

    hijacked quite some time ago by religious fanatics and borderline fascists who happen to know how to drive media eyeballs. This ain’t your grandfather’s GOP anymore – hell, it ain’t your older sibling’s GOP! It is a far-right and white socially conservative movement that cares NOT ONE WHIT about the conservative fiscal values so many of you espouse.

    It never ceases to amaze me how wrong so many peoples’ ideas are about what conservatism is, and what some people think conservatives believe. Conservatives often mock this stereotype that the left has, and it is funny that so many people actually believe the stereotype.

    You would be MUCH MORE WELCOME in the Libertarian Party where they don’t give a damn about your sexual orientation.

    Most conservatives seem not to give a damn either.

    As for me and all my straight AND gay friends, we’re all real happy supporting the President and some of us are working hard to make it possible for some of you to get married

    Yes, because that is all every gay person everywhere cares about; having their relationships recognized as marriage by the government. You must really think all gay people are very dumb; Obama doesn’t even support gay marriage.

    I agree with you, it’s NOT FAIR that Grenell was forced to resign because his personal life was a distraction

    He wasn’t forced to resign, apparently. I am quite disappointed with all the assumptions that are being made here (by many people).

    they ain’t about being fair, they’re all about winning, no matter who gets hurt or who’s career is destroyed.

    Sarah Palin and Herman Cain were unavailable for comment.

    That’s not the America I love and fight for: fairness, equality, decency and respect.

    One of the reasons I respect the USA so much is that equality is neither mentioned nor implied anywhere in the constitution. Unless, that is, you were referring to equality of opportunity, but that’s never what progressives mean by “equality.”

    Comment by Rattlesnake — May 2, 2012 @ 10:11 pm - May 2, 2012

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  13. Is it my imagination or is there a heavy stink of desperation descending on these threads?

    That heavy stink is from Kostards like sdtrueman and Al in SoCal who over-medicate and forget to have the nurse change their adult diapers.

    Is that mean? Let me offer an insincere apology. rusty, be a dear and find Dan Savage’s apology and copy/paste it into here for me.

    Comment by V the K — May 3, 2012 @ 8:34 am - May 3, 2012

  14. I think heliotrope went into detail on the Savage apology
    In the Silence post at #9. There you go V!

    Smooches

    Comment by rusty — May 3, 2012 @ 10:14 am - May 3, 2012

  15. http://www.gaypatriot.net/2012/05/02/silence-in-response-to-anti-christian-rhetoric-is-an-option-for-hrc-the-dnc/

    V so sorry, forgot the link

    Comment by rusty — May 3, 2012 @ 10:18 am - May 3, 2012

  16. That’s not the America I love and fight for: fairness, equality, decency and respect.

    Comment by sdtrueman — May 2, 2012 @ 8:33 pm – May 2, 2012

    Sort of like

    Mr. Trouble never hangs around,
    When he hears this Mighty sound,

    Here I come to save the day!
    That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way!

    Yes sir, when there is a wrong to right,
    Mighty Mouse will join the fight!

    On the sea or on the land,
    He’s got the situation well in hand!

    Let us take sdtrueman at his words:

    Fairness: “free from discrimination, bias, dishonesty, etc; just; impartial”

    Now, just how do you take from one to give to another without discriminating in favor of the recipient and being biased against the one from whom the taking is targeted?

    Equality: the state or quality of being equal; correspondence in quantity, degree, value, rank, or ability.

    Do you value the arsonist equally with the firefighter? Is the drunk on the bench the equal in ability to the sober crossing guard? Is the boy with a hang nail who arrives early to the emergency room ahead of the shooting victim who is rushed in at a later time?

    Decency: The state or quality of being decent; propriety. Conformity to prevailing standards of propriety or modesty.

    Certainly attacking the Judeo-Christian ethic has not a thing to do with “prevailing standards.” Naw. Decency is simply in the mind of the beholder and is relative to the time and circumstances and the fantasies of the actor.

    Respect: esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability. deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy.

    This is what TRUE MAN is really after. Forget the Fairness, Equality, Decency babble. TRUE MAN wants Respect. He wants society to be forced to accept him on his terms of “fairness” and his terms of “equality” and his terms of “decency.”

    These words are all slippery, weasel words that look great on the revolutionary banner. They mean different things to different people and their meanings shift in a nano-second under stress or emergency or sudden intrusions of reality.

    People who babble in bumper sticker clichés are equally susceptible to falling in with the audacity of hope and change sheeple and seeing their own private vision of Utopia just around the bend and next to the unicorn grazing by the end of the rainbow.

    Hopefully, (sd)TRUE MAN will return and argue rationally for his cause. It would be interesting to see what measure of mind underlies this salmagundi of bromides.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 10:46 am - May 3, 2012

  17. I would like any gay conservative to answer heliotrope’s questions at comment 48.

    Please address the allusions to necrophilia, pedophilia, sexual norms and protocols. Heliotrope seems to be making offensive false comparisons, but are they offensive to you? How would you address his questions / concerns?

    Also, heliotrope, it’s really not a secret which sort of Democrat created the KKK and what they call themselves now. Just ask JT Ready… oops… he’s dead.

    Comment by Edmund — May 3, 2012 @ 2:30 pm - May 3, 2012

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  19. Edmund,

    I am not making “offensive false comparisons” unless you are offended.

    What is the difference between pedophilia and “normal” heterosexuality?

    What is the difference between necrophilia and “normal” heterosexuality?

    What is the difference between homosexuality and “normal” heterosexuality?

    These are not trick questions. The average person should be able to answer them in just a few words.

    Now, let us talk about how something becomes “tolerated” and considered “normal” and garner “respect” in the public square.

    How and why is homosexuality worthy of more respect, tolerance, normalcy in the public square than action on other sexual orientations?

    Why don’t you take the time and effort to make it clear.

    As to protocols, why shouldn’t the public square accept adult men mentoring teens out of the closet and getting some harmless sexual adventure as a bonus for some sort of community commendation?

    I am fascinated in knowing how the moral relativism of the liberal mind works.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 3:13 pm - May 3, 2012

  20. Actually, heliotrope, I wasn’t offended. I wondered why you’d ask them and make a specific demand of gay people to answer them in your comment at 48, then backpedal now. You do, of course, realize that false comparisons are made by the more frothy right wing conservatives between male gays and pedophiles all the time. It happened just yesterday in the UK.

    The difference between homosexuality and heterosexuality is no more than the sum of its parts. That’s the general conclusion of most mental health professionals, and the reason why homosexual practice is legal in most places, specifically the USA and Western Europe.

    No one said that homosexuality deserves more respect than heterosexuality. Just the same equal protections under the law and legal incentives to form lasting attachments. The question then becomes, why does homosexual practice deserve LESS respect, tolerance, normalcy and legal protection than heterosexual practice?

    The example you cite – adult gay men with teens – is most often called pedophilia. There has been a raft of cases of schoolteachers and other adults having sex with teens of both the same and opposite sex. Most recently, it has been female teachers molesting teen boys. They are arrested when caught because it has been determined that teens cannot give informed consent for this activity with an adult. If you can explain why you think they shouldn’t be, have at it. But I think you might want to register with the Sex Offender Registry first. How do you think you would fare in the public square making and argument for *any* adult to have sex with *any* teen in a “mentoring’ context?

    And that makes applying your question solely to gay men moot.

    I am fascinated with know in how the right deals in false equivalencies to subjugate conservative gay men.

    Comment by Edmund — May 3, 2012 @ 3:44 pm - May 3, 2012

  21. Edmund,

    The difference between homosexuality and heterosexuality is no more than the sum of its parts. That’s the general conclusion of most mental health professionals, and the reason why homosexual practice is legal in most places, specifically the USA and Western Europe.

    Nice try, but no cigar.

    Every gay has the same protection under the law that I have and I would lay down my life to see that that remains true.

    So, let’s assume that you are on that old treadmill about being able to marry who you “want” to marry. You can marry under the exact same rules laid down by the public square many, many years ago that have permitted me to be married for nearly 50 years.

    But, of course, you want to marry some one of the same sex and the law does not permit that. So we are right back to the public square.

    You must convince the public square that the time has come for marriage enlightenment. You must show in an intelligent and convincing manner that the hi-jinx of gay-pride parades and sex fairs and anti-Christian bigotry are not the norm and do not promote the gay agenda.

    It is a little difficult for the public square to be convinced by concerted efforts to have gay marriage forced by the courts when the people at the polls are ignored.

    In 1982, The American Psychiatric Association acted upon various tests, samples and the impressive work of Gonsiorek to conclude that “homosexuality in and of itself is unrelated to psychological disturbance and maladjustment.” That is to say, that homosexuals as a group are not more psychologically disturbed on account of their homosexuality.

    As a result, in 1986 the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the official work of the American Psychiatric Association, dropped homosexuality as a pathology. This did not waive the possibility of ego-dystonic homosexuality as a trigger for societal related adjustment disorder.

    To that extent, homosexuality was deemed “normal” in terms of mental health. Pedophilia, necrophilia, etc. are still considered “mental health” problems, but aside from chemical castration or a lobotomy, the mental health community has made no inroads into what is still deemed a pathology.

    That is all well and good for chit-chat in the salon. But, the public square is nowhere near the point of accepting homosexuality as a distinction without a difference.

    Granted, the public square is more “tolerant” of what goes on where they do not have to see it, know about it, consider it, respect it, approve of it.

    Homosexual practice is not legal in most places other than in the privacy of one’s home.

    Sure, cruise ships, theme parks, hotels, resorts invite gays to spend their money to be together. For the most part, they are savvy enough to let the non-gays know what is going on so that they can make “other plans” if they like. This is smart business, because the public square is not hostile to gay couples in general, but they are not anxious to be caught up in a gay swarm.

    You are correct that no one said that homosexuality deserves more respect than heterosexuality. That would, of course, include me. So that dog won’t hunt.

    There are many wonderful people on this site who grudgingly put up with my “Neanderthal” battering away at getting your agenda thought out and becoming more intellectually convincing.

    I do not like spewing the issue that I know people are tired of hearing. I do not like making my associates uncomfortable. But the lazy left gays just want to cut to the chase and have government deem the issue settled and then enforce it with the force of law.

    You might even want me to be censored. Or try to shame me into censoring myself. Or bring me up on hate speech charges. Or, as in the Reign of Terror of France, you can unleash a bunch of gay harpies to drag me off to Madame Guillotine on suspicion of crimes against liberty of gays.

    You have an atavistic tone about your post that is always played out in societies who set out to cleanse themselves.

    When you call for a gay conservative on this site to defend my non-gay conservative speech, you are actually forcing a gay to put an important part of his identity aside and to talk up a cause he may not support. Why is that important to you?

    Are we at war? Can you not use words and reason to make a reasonable case for why all of society would benefit from gay marriage? Why the mission of the military is enhanced by gays serving openly. Have you no spirit or soul for your mission? Must church doctrine be destroyed for you to be happy?

    Examine your agenda and examine your world and try to be realistic in how you can make the gains you desire without resorting to demands and tantrums and sleazy innuendo.

    Is that Jerry Sandusky guy in the Penn State mess gay? If so, how do you differentiate him from the good gays? If not, why not? None of these are fun thoughts or questions. But you would be a fool if you do not think they are in common thoughts in the public square.

    You can either convert people missionary style or Islamic jihad style.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 4:54 pm - May 3, 2012

  22. That’s the general conclusion of most mental health professionals

    Didn’t the American Psychological Association a few years back try to promote the idea that paedophilia was normal and healthy, and didn’t they try to reclassify it as “adult-child sex” to remove the stigma?

    IIRC, Congress voted overwhelmingly to condemn the APA’s position, and all of the congressmen that voted against condemning it were Democrats. One was a certain congressman from Ohio whose chief of staff had an arrest for inappropriate contact with minors in his past. Democrats were so scandalized that they… elected him governor of Ohio a few years later.

    Comment by V the K — May 3, 2012 @ 6:23 pm - May 3, 2012

  23. You are correct, VtheK. I didn’t get too deep into the weeds with Edmund, because “(t)hat’s the general conclusion of most mental health professionals….” is a pretty clear tip-off that the we are in shallow waters.

    Nor did I get into the whole political make-up of the APA which goes off on confusing political pressure with an epiphany all the time.

    I loathe getting into discussing things in term of “normal” but that is the arena in which this whole agenda is being played out. My inner dictator is to impose civil unions and slam the door. But, even my cats boss me around.

    Wrestling with one’s own conscious and soul is far heavier lifting than storm trooping around and high-fiving.

    Any bets as to whether Edmund will assume the missionary position? (My bad.)

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 6:46 pm - May 3, 2012

  24. Helitrope, your “bad” as you put it, as well as your nasty personal attacks and windy supercilious bloviating, has cost you this debate. (Are you being paid by the word? That seldom produces quality prose or discussion and I’m still not sure which you were striving for.)

    Actually, contrary to your statement that I am not free to marry the person of my choosing, I’m gay and married since 2005, living together with my spouse monogamously since 1999. While that may not equate to your sainted wife tolerating things that would probably make most people mad after 50 bitter years, my marriage is true and it’s legal. We’re part of a lawsuit against DOMA that is temporarily stalled, but it’s sure to move with all due expedience after November.

    You seem to have an ….inordinate… interest in what you call gay hi-jinx: pride parades, sex fairs and anti-Christian bigotry. And you seem to think that it is the responsibility of gay people to show the public square why they don’t apply to gay people in general. Any thoughts on Mardis Gras and what needs to be “shown” in order to have beads thrown at one? (Hint: I don’t have them.) Do heterosexuals need to repudiate this spectacle in order to marry. I’d wager most wouldn’t. How about the drunken mess of St. Patrick’s Day? Do American Irish have to show “we’re not all like that” in order to be treated equally under the law?

    At any rate, my time for this is up. Since you reference being married for 50 years, I can conlude that you must be around 68 years old or perhaps significantly older. So… your time for this is just about up, too. May you find peace sooner rather than later.

    Comment by Edmund — May 3, 2012 @ 8:23 pm - May 3, 2012

  25. ….your nasty personal attacks and windy supercilious bloviating, has cost you this debate.

    ….

    you must be around 68 years old or perhaps significantly older. So… your time for this is just about up, too. May you find peace sooner rather than later.

    Classy.

    Never had anyone wish an early death to me. You must have a very unique sense of principles and an belief system bloated with entitlement.

    For the sake of clarity, your “marriage” cements you to a few venues, because it is not covered under the full faith and credit clause.

    I bear you no ill will. In fact, I wish you a long and prosperous life. I will include you in my prayers. Not out of revenge, but in keeping with my faith and love for all of God’s children.

    You are not an atypical hard case for liberalism. You just don’t want to pay the price of earning respect.

    I do not have an inordinate interest in gay hi-jinx. They are what they are. Dan Savage, after all, fantasizes in public about his penis in Brad Pitt’s mouth or punishing Rick Santorum with anal rape. It is not your responsibility to stop Savage from making the gay agenda into a mockery.

    But, if you are a reasoned and reasonable individual, it is your responsibility to show the public square that Dan Savage is the fringe idiot, not you.

    You will not discuss this, because you are ideologically castrated.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 9:15 pm - May 3, 2012

  26. Not death. Peace. The peace that an older person should have in his soul as he approaches life’s final marker. La paix, Venez vite pour ce vieillard amer fatigué! There’s a lot of smoke and little light coming from your intellectual fire at this point. But I will continue to pray that you – and all who think and act as you do – find the peace that God promises all who believe in him.

    If you were a reasoned and reasonable indivudual who ever got out of the public square so that you could make friends in an actual neighborhood, you would realize that no one has to prove what he is not, only what he is.

    Comment by Edmund — May 3, 2012 @ 9:45 pm - May 3, 2012

  27. <blockquote<You will not discuss this, because you are ideologically castrated.And, right on cue, you did not take up the debate.

    Instead: Not death. Peace…. There’s a lot of smoke and little light coming from your intellectual fire at this point…. If you were a reasoned and reasonable indivudual who ever got out of the public square so that you could make friends in an actual neighborhood, you would realize that no one has to prove what he is not, only what he is.

    You, apparently the grand champion of all pissing contests. Neat. Makes a great entry on your curriculum vitae.

    It is you who came challenging gays to on this site to defend or disavow my statements which I made all by myself alone.

    Now stick to your game and carry it through or admit that you are a typical shift-the-topic, ignore facts and name-calling liberal who is incapable of honest debate.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 10:07 pm - May 3, 2012

  28. And with naught but arglebargle at 77… res ipsa loquitur!

    Comment by Edmund — May 3, 2012 @ 10:09 pm - May 3, 2012

  29. Admission accepted.

    Comment by heliotrope — May 3, 2012 @ 10:27 pm - May 3, 2012

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  31. I applaud the Romney campaign for being open-minded and obviously seeing that Mr. Grenell has the skills and experience for the job. I am sickened that it seems as if the media has won this battle by removing an opponent by using Saul Alinsky tactics, once again.

    Comment by Kelley — May 7, 2012 @ 2:27 pm - May 7, 2012

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