Over the past week or so, I have seen numerous postings on Facebook and a number of stories on CNN about a North Carolina pastor who somehow seems to have forgotten about the biblical injunction to love your neighbor:
I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers, but I couldn’t get it past the Congress,” Pastor Charles L. Worley can be seen telling his Providence Road Baptist Church congregation in the video, which had more than 250,000 YouTube views by Tuesday.
“Build a great big, large fence – 50 or a 100 miles long – and put all the lesbians in there,” Worley went on to say in his May 13 sermon at his Maiden, North Carolina, church. “Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed them. And you know in a few years, they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.”
Does this guy really believe that only homosexuals can produce homosexual children? (That would be news to my heterosexual Mom and Dad.) Even those trusting in the efficacy of “reparative therapy” don’t favor herding gay people into concentration camps.
As CNN and our Facebook friends focus on — and rightly condemn — Mr. Worley, I wonder where these folks were when other crackpots were preaching hate from their pulpits.
It is sick that members of Worley’s flock would stand by their pastor, preferring his word to the biblical command to love your neighbor. His congregation though is only one of many. But, he’s not the only pastor preaching hate. It would be nice to see CNN expose those on the Christian left who seem incapable of accepting that some of their neighbors merit affection.
FROM THE COMMENTS: Lori builds on my point:
The anti gay preacher is a loon and so is Wright. The media are all over this very inconsequential preacher (that conservatives sure think is flakey and hateful), but they were mum about Wright, who preached hating whites and hating America. It’s not just anti gay hate that needs to stop, it all needs to stop.
quarantine the gays vs. acknowledging economic and racial inequality
And, it’s Dan caught in the middle.
It all makes sense now.
Huh? Caught in the middle? I’m calling this guy a crackpot.
Ahhhh, that’s Pastor Crackpot.
We should be respectful to the loon. 😉
Dan, I imagine there is one or two people out there that got my point. Maybe not. But, your post on this crackpot came back to reprimanding the left, like everything else I’ve read of yours. When does a post of yours not lead to criticizing liberals. That’s rhetorical. Have a good night. God bless.
Cinesnatch, glad you agree with me that CNN is part of “the left” as I am reprimanding that network here (as well as, by implication, its ideological affiliates).
Dan’s point was well taken. The anti gay preacher is a loon and so is Wright. The media are all over this very inconsequential preacher (that conservatives sure think is flakey and hateful), but they were mum about Wright, who preached hating whites and hating America. It’s not just anti gay hate that needs to stop, it all needs to stop. And sorry, Cine, but it is the liberal media – and a lot of liberals – who are just peachy with hate, as long as it’s directed at a conservative (and a whitey conservative is especially a-ok). Besides, this is a conservative blog – what part of that do you think is incompatible with pointing out the flaws of liberals?
Inarguably, this “pastor” is on the extreme religious right and he has gathered a congregation of unknown (to me) size. Those 250,000 YouTube views have nothing to do with the size of his congregation nor is there any way whatsoever to determine the reason behind each person viewing the YouTube clip.
I am not certain what to make of this whole issue. Obviously, the “pastor” is comfortable with making such talk with his congregation. Whether each member of the congregation is satisfied with the talk is unknown.
But the larger question for me is “so what?” Is this guy the tip of a giant iceberg or a fossil remain? There were many thousands of pastors across the nation doing a commendable job of preaching at the same moment, but none of them will ever be on CNN or the news in general unless he crosses some line such as adultery, pedophilia, grand theft or espousing bigotry or defying political correctness.
Somewhere, right now, there is a liberal who is talking trash about religion and taking advantage of someone with no regard to morality or ethics. Whether we hear of him/her or not is beside the point. The point is that imperfect creatures exist and who, exactly, is surprised to learn that?
Well since Vince seems to be on a ‘consistency’ kick, I’m surprised that he doesn’t endorse Worley for president.
Or does Vince only support people who actually perform atrocities instead of just talk about them?
You forgot about hateful preachers like this.
I agree that nothing I’ve seen Jeremiah Wright saying is equivalent to calling for the death of a bunch of people. However, what Wright said is still despicable, and he has much more influence than this person in North Carolina.
And I would simply point out how the iconic leader of the gay and lesbian community has called for Republicans and conservatives to be murdered.
With the full endorsement and support of the Obama Party and Barack Obama.
You B Right LW, and I am not worried about folk like that getting into positions of power.
Worley Harris Phelps Wright. . .crazies, but hey they have the right to stand behind a pulpit and expound to the sheeple who gather round.
Comment by rusty — May 24, 2012 @ 10:43 am – May 24, 2012
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You know, that other loon “pastor” Fred Phelps is a Democrat. I wonder if this whackdude is too? Just askin!
Oh, and if so, when wil the Democrat party ask both to no longer associate with their party?
You know, like we did when the Klansman David Duke ran as a Republican in Lousiana for state representative.
I think you may be missing the larger point, which is to associate the loons with the rest of the Christian flock. Interestingly enough I always hear about video of the extremists and loonies in the gay rights debate, almost never hear any even-handed or well reasoned objections to gay issues. While I don’t agree with Christian’s objections to gay marriage etc, I certainly don’t feel they are all the equivalent of schizophrenic ramblings or ignorant, backwater rednecks…
I agree the man is wrong, but I think the real point here should be why this and other videos (I believe the woman at the Lincoln, Nebraska who is mentally ill) that only represent the most extreme or mentally ill are the only people we see widespread by the media. Is that really how the leftist media sees all people of faith?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTRhOw76do
I do not understand what you object of the factually correct statement that 2 gay men left on a desert island will never be able to reproduce, parthenogenesis is not nature’s intended method of reproduction for the human kind.
It is simply the truth, this is why gays have to pay a female that they wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole to carry the baby and another to donate an egg. Nobody ever hinted that homosexuals are sterile. Neither is factually possible to build this fence and close all gays in. Looks like you are crying wolf which is typical of the left.
I personally do not believe in the genetic factor but you cannot discount the fact that some branches of pseudo science bought and paid by the wealthy gay community are doing everything in their power to establish the genetic concept to better advance propaganda. After all, some studies and polls done in countries like Sweden (and I say SWEDEN) established that when homosexuality is perceived as something genetic, % of acceptance of it doubles compared to when it is perceived as a ‘choice’ or a preference. And obviously the gay community wants to go down that route, no matter how scientifically hard it is to prove.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you push in one direction, do not complain that the opponents use that against you.
@Susan,
That statement may be true in a closed environment. However…
1) Anyone doing such a thing is repugnant (or a leftist).
2) Unless you’re going to lock the men in one camp and the women in another, you will have procreation (To steal shamelessly from Jurassic Park “Nature will find a way”). The ‘parts’ are all there, all it takes is a guy getting over the ‘icky girl parts’ and the girl doing likewise.
3) It’s stil inhumane.
@Tim
I agree with you about the ‘guilt by association’ game. It’s part of ND30’s ‘schtick’ that he uses the same tactic against lib posters, slapping them with the broad brush the left tries to use on us.
I, on the other hand, just use their own words against them specifically, like Vince defending admitted war criminals, Levi’s hatred of women, freedom, etc etc. 🙂
It is way more belieavable that Bush was actually able to build the infamous concentration camps than this pastor has to go on with his project. Were you also terrorized of the Republican concentration camps threat?
About your point n.2 it is clear from his statement that the 2 groups are separated.
So if instead of the fences with barbed wire he had mentioned 2 distant paradise islands with overabundance of delicious food and all kinds of entertainment luxuries, provided still you would have had the exact same effect (the ‘male’ island dying off of old age with no heirs, same goes for the female island) you would have found it more acceptable?
Once again, you (collectively) stomp your feet on the ground when you are told what it obvious to everybody.
“Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.” – Optimus Prime.
ANY sort of internment based on attractions or consentual relations between two (or more) consenting adults is WRONG. It doesn’t matter if it’s Bill and Ted, Mary and Sue, or Bill and Ted or Patti, Evan and John. (Bonus points for catching that reference.) As long as they’re consentual, and hurting no one, it’s not an issue.
Heck, I’ll even draw fire and say the creepy guy who’s attracted to kids is ok as long as he never acts on it.
The only reason this guy is even a blip is because it a) makes good press fodder and b) allows the left to paint with a broad brush. It ignores he’s been condemned by many of religious beliefs on the right. (Sister Toldja to name one).
That said I’m amused that a) you assume I’m gay and b) I believe the Bush Camp crap. Do I look like (crazy) Kevin to you?
Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice? 🙂
Or does it have something to do with an ‘Excellent Adventure’?
I was referring to Patti, Evan and John actually. The others are easy. That takes a true geek to ferret out 🙂
Bill and Ted does relate to the (soon to be) three movies, though.
the fact that I said “Once again, you (collectively)” meant I do not necessarily consider you gay, which is not the point here, I have noticed heterosexual are way more extreme in their gay-accommodating attitude than the gays themselves.