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Where’s the concern about how antics (and crimes) of gay activists threaten to tarnish public perception of gay community?

Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 5:30 pm - June 26, 2012.
Filed under: Gay America,Liberal Hypocrisy

What is so bad about” the gay activists flipping off the Gipper’s portrait when visiting the White House at Obama’s invitation, our reader Nic wrote in the comments . . .

. . . is that the American Public only knows the gay community that moves under the banner of, “we’re queer we’re here get used to it!” These “activists” did nothing for the over all cause of the gay community. They made their cause look childish and sad.

Well, to be sure, thanks to folks like Ellen DeGeneres and Neil Patrick Harris, this is not the only image of gay people Americans have.  These activists, as Nic added in a followup comment, “do not represent the entire gay community who are concerned about taxes, the economy and the debt.”  Just like most Americans.

But, because these activists received such attention in the media last week — even the Huffington Post picked up the story, you’d think those who aspire to represent our community would have spoken out to, well, “differentiate themselves” from those juvenile antics.

Now, the Huffington Post has picked up another story which threatens to tarnish the image of gay people:

Police say they arrested 66-year-old Larry Brinkin, the high-profile gay activist, on possession of child pornography on Friday night.

. . . .

Brinkin retired from the Human Rights Commission in 2010, and has been a beloved member of the [San Francisco] gay community, with the Board of Supervisors even declaring the first week of February as “Larry Brinkin Week.”

Zombie has lots more.  It is not pleasant reading.

No, most gay people don’t indulge in child pornography.  This behavior is not representative of our community. But, given Mr. Brinkin’s prominence, you’d think our leaders would be quick to criticize his actions.

When I asked zombie if he was aware of any such criticism, he linked a comment in the San Francisco Chronicle (since removed) and alerted me to the Lesbian Conservative’s post where she thought that San Francisco’s “city fathers” would “have no other choice but to rename that cold first week in February [currently designated Larry Brinkin week] ….but then again, this is San Francisco, so maybe not.

Gay leaders should join her — and us — in asking that the City of San Francisco remove Mr. Brinkin’s name from that week.

What this man is alleged to have done is far more offensive (far, far, far more offensive) than what Sarah Palin’s daughter once said.  But, I could find nothing about it on HRC’s web-page.  Or NGLTF’s.  Or GLAAD’s.

FROM THE COMMENTS:  Chris H finds “hilarious my Facebook timeline is full of outrage from my gay left friends over some people’s disapproval of Oreo’s rainbow cookie yet not one person has made a peep about Brinkin.”  And I find it interesting that several of my conservative Facebook friends are delighted by the rainbow cookie.

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  1. From the links you provided taken from

    http://lezgetreal.com/2012/06/ca-gay-icon-larry-brinkin-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges/

    “Do not be surprised that anti-LGBT organizations will use this arrest against the Community; however, it is important to remember that most pedophiles identify as straight, and there are many straight people who have been arrested, charged, and convicted for possession of child pornography.”

    Typical. Whatever happens just remind people that opponents are worse… the spin doctors are out in full force.

    Comment by Susan — June 26, 2012 @ 5:45 pm - June 26, 2012

  2. One reason to keep them out of the Boy Scouts.

    Comment by anon23532 — June 26, 2012 @ 5:58 pm - June 26, 2012

  3. Yeah. Because every time Bryan Fischer says something heinous, there are dozens of disavowing messages and posts from his fellow conservatives on this site.

    Comment by pk — June 26, 2012 @ 6:14 pm - June 26, 2012

  4. Harming a child is nothing comparable by mere ‘words’ spoken. The fact that you come up with such a rebuttal speaks volumes about the group you are part of.

    Comment by susan — June 26, 2012 @ 6:22 pm - June 26, 2012

  5. So pk, why are you trying to hold conservatives to a standard that you won’t follow yourself?

    Oh, that’s right. No one should expect you to be treated equally. You’re gay, so you should be able to do whatever you want and have the community praise you for it. Rules are for OTHER people.

    Which is the mentality Larry Brinkin had, and which explains a great deal why he did what he did.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 26, 2012 @ 6:23 pm - June 26, 2012

  6. Liberals want to hold conservatives to a standard that liberals won’t follow themselves, even though conservatives want them to, even though conservatives won’t follow it themselves, even though liberals want them to, even though liberals won’t follow it themselves, even though conservatives want them to, even though conservatives won’t follow it themselves…

    ad infinitum.

    Comment by pk — June 26, 2012 @ 6:34 pm - June 26, 2012

  7. So feel free to break the cycle yourself, pk.

    What’s that? Oh, you expect OTHER people to behave, but you exempt yourself because you’re gay.

    See, that’s the whole point. If you can excuse child molestation and pron because Bryan Fischer said something, you and your fellow liberal apologists are really too far off the deep end to even be taken seriously any more.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 26, 2012 @ 6:41 pm - June 26, 2012

  8. I AM breaking the cycle. In comments 3 and 6, I’m trying to point out how ludicrous it this cycle is, whether engaged in by our blogger host, or by liberals, or by conservatives.

    As for the other things in your comments, I don’t know whom the “you” refers to when you say things like, “If you can excuse child molestation and pron” or “You’re gay, so you should be able to do whatever you want” but they certainly don’t refer to me, so I’ll bow out and let you continue that line of commenting with whomever you had in mind.

    Comment by pk — June 26, 2012 @ 6:56 pm - June 26, 2012

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  10. Taken from the link provided @ comment #1:

    “Do not be surprised that anti-LGBT organizations will use this arrest against the Community; however, it is important to remember that most pedophiles identify as straight, and there are many straight people who have been arrested, charged, and convicted for possession of child pornography.”

    We have very scant knowledge of pedophiles, molesters, sex abusers of children. We only know what those who are caught and/or those who seek therapy have to say. We have no idea how many people out there are engaged in this depravity. We have no way of knowing the incidence of male on male child sexual abuse by heterosexual or homosexual identification of the perpetrator.

    Such a statement as “most pedophiles identify as straight” is statistically meaningless, even if provable. The numbers of straights and Gays in our population is not a confirmed ratio, but straights out number gays by at least ten to one.

    The issue is more one of “public relations” for gays. It is they who bear the burden of being “suspect” as child care givers, Boy Scout sponsors, and professionals in areas where children are involved.

    Society in general sees no difference between Jerry Sandusky and Kevin Jennings providing guidance on homosexuality in one on one counseling or mass sexuality indoctrination. Both are guilty of messing with children.

    In my opinion, the gay libs (who are dedicated to getting into the face of society in the public square) will attempt to spin the Brinkin mess in a thousand diverting ways.

    The fact is, it is the gay world that wants and deserves the respect of the other population. One method is to demand respect, go to court, parade and chastise and play the victim. Another way is to work on gaining respect and goodwill without all the bluster and bullying.

    Gays should be doubly disgusted with Brinkin, because of what he has turned out to be and because he has fed the suspicions of many.

    With due loyalty to the facts, if Brinkin in guilty of this stuff, he should be criticized by the gay world as forcefully as by the rest of the public square.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 26, 2012 @ 7:53 pm - June 26, 2012

  11. I find it hilarious my Facebook timeline is full of outrage from my gay left friends over some people’s disapproval of Oreo’s rainbow cookie yet not one person has made a peep about Brinkin.

    Comment by Chris H — June 26, 2012 @ 8:11 pm - June 26, 2012

  12. No one represents me but myself. Why does that I’m sexually attracted to men mean that vile people like Dan Savage represent me? That really pisses me off.

    heliotrope, you are exactly right. The gay “community” should be demanding Larry Brinkin’s head on a pike. That they are more concerned with people criticizing Oreos than condemning this son of a b*tch says a lot about them.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — June 26, 2012 @ 9:24 pm - June 26, 2012

  13. Oh yeah, and let’s remember that the real tragedy here is the violation of the children’s rights, not the image of the gay “community” being tarnished. The gay “community” should not condemn this son of a b*tch because he makes them look bad, but because he destroyed (or aided in the destruction of) people’s lives.

    Comment by Rattlesnake — June 26, 2012 @ 9:27 pm - June 26, 2012

  14. I’ve been catching this site on my Facebook for quite a while now, and have close conservative friends, both heterosexual and homosexual. And I can tell you this: the conservative friends are a LOT lower maintenance than the liberal gay ones. They pick their fights a lot wiser, but they’ll admit things they do wrong a lot sooner than the activist crowd will. And truth be told, many of the hardcore activists are simply tolerated for their shock value (and money), but when the cute wears off, they’re either ignored or viciously made fun of by other liberals.

    Comment by Douglas — June 26, 2012 @ 9:53 pm - June 26, 2012

  15. Facebook page, my apologies.

    Comment by Douglas — June 26, 2012 @ 9:59 pm - June 26, 2012

  16. Child pornography is a vile crime and no person involved with it should be walking free, much less holding a leadership position. And perhaps the reason more people are talking about Oreos than about Brinkin is because more people have actually heard of Oreos before today.

    Comment by rolling — June 26, 2012 @ 10:02 pm - June 26, 2012

  17. Ken Mehlman: “At a personal level … one of the things I’ve learned is how many people were harmed by the campaigns in which I was involved. I apologize to them and tell them I am sorry. While there have been recent victories, this could still be a long struggle in which there will be setbacks, and I’ll do my part to be helpful.”

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 26, 2012 @ 10:43 pm - June 26, 2012

  18. Vince,

    I don’t understand your choice of comment.

    Comment by heliotrope — June 26, 2012 @ 11:12 pm - June 26, 2012

  19. COMPLETELY off topic heliotrope, but did you ever get to see Christopher Plummer in Beginners? A must see.

    Comment by rusty — June 26, 2012 @ 11:30 pm - June 26, 2012

  20. Vince making a non-sequetor? I’m shocked, shocked I say.

    As to this sub-human, it goes back to the denial aspects. If you look, the right is always demanded to repudiate its fringe element, but the left gets away with ‘casual denials’

    @Rattlesnake I think it comes from having a large perception as a ‘group’ and getting caught up in the propwash. I mean no one sees Lefties as a ‘group’ and myself, both Bushes and Reagan aren’t expected to think like Obama, though we’re all sinisterly gifted.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 27, 2012 @ 8:19 am - June 27, 2012

  21. Perhaps this would be a good point to remind people that liberal Democrats re-elected a confessed child-molester (Gerry Studds) to the House of Representatives 9 times.

    (Yes, by the Mark Foley standard, Gerry Studds was a child molester.)

    And liberal Hollywood made Victor Salva’s conviction for raping an 11 year old boy no barrier to career advancement.

    And Roman Polansky’s rape of a 13 year old girl is shrugged off by Hollywood liberals because “he’s a genius.”

    Oh, and the liberal Democrat “Safe School Czar” bragged to gay audiences for years about facilitating a restroom hook-up between a boy he described as age 15 and an older male. Kevin Jennings also supported youth conferences at which young teens were encouraged to engage in unsafe sex. (http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/index.html)

    So, the problem with asserting that gay liberals are appalled by the sexual abuse of minors is the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

    Comment by V the K — June 27, 2012 @ 10:56 am - June 27, 2012

  22. Oh my…

    Brinkin’s email: “I loved especially the 2 year old n—– getting nailed. Hope you’ll continue so I can see what the little blond b—- is going to get. White Power! White Supremacy! White D— Rules!”

    The HRC must be so proud.

    Link

    Comment by V the K — June 27, 2012 @ 12:09 pm - June 27, 2012

  23. Yes, by the Mark Foley standard, Gerry Studds was a child molester

    Let’s not forget Dan Crane.

    … the problem with asserting that gay liberals are appalled by the sexual abuse of minors is the mountain of evidence to the contrary

    Didn’t know gay liberals had to lift the burden of Roman Polanski’s transgressions. Can you explain that one?

    Victor Salva

    Holding gay liberals responsible for Hollywood’s ills. Am I reading this correctly?

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 27, 2012 @ 5:01 pm - June 27, 2012

  24. As to this sub-human

    While, I disagree with Savage’s language and tactics, this description seems rather harsh considering the whole picture, no?

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 27, 2012 @ 5:05 pm - June 27, 2012

  25. Let’s not forget Dan Crane.

    A perfect example. He, like Mark Foley, never went back to Congress after his scandal. Whereas Democrats re-elected Gerry Studds nine times.

    Which proves my point.

    Comment by V the K — June 27, 2012 @ 6:56 pm - June 27, 2012

  26. Great! So, my other comments addressing yours don’t help prove your point? ;)

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 27, 2012 @ 7:34 pm - June 27, 2012

  27. I sometimes forget how dim you are, Vince. The gay left is a subset of the left. The Hollywood left is also a subset of the left. The Hollywood left supports Polansky and Salva. And, unless you could provide a link to the contrary, the gay left has been silent at best WRT Polansky and Salva. There has certainly been no condemnation from those quarters that I am aware of.

    Also, Harry Hay, one of the founders of NAMBLA, is still thought of quite highly on the gay left, is he not?

    Comment by V the K — June 27, 2012 @ 8:12 pm - June 27, 2012

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  29. Yeah, VTK, Harry Hay is spoken of often and in glowing words in the liberal circles I run in. In fact, tomorrow night is my monthly Harry Hay appreciation meeting. Thanks for reminding me. After that, my friends and I are going to have a screening of Powder while we worship Victor Salva and prepare next year’s Pride float in commemoration of the both of them.

    While we’re at it, should I just assume then, that people on the right take responsibility for Evangelicals. Last time I checked, the religious crazies out-number The Hollywood Elite by a considerable amount.

    It’s not me that’s dim, VTK, it’s the light-bulb in your head that needs changing. Don’t forget to turn it off before you go to sleep tonight.

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 28, 2012 @ 1:08 am - June 28, 2012

  30. Prove me wrong, Vince. Link to a condemnation of Harry Hay or Victor Salva from the HRC, the NGLTF, P-FLAG, The Advocate, or some other major Gay Activist Organization.

    Shouldn’t be hard, should it?

    Comment by V the K — June 28, 2012 @ 8:13 am - June 28, 2012

  31. Timothy Kincaid. Box Turtle Bulletin

    I don’t defend Harry Hay. He was a kook and his dedication to anti-establishment activism and non-conformity above all sometimes led to very poor choices (like his defense of NAMBLA) and ultimately enmity with the newly arising community activists. By his death he was an anachronism and an embarrassment.

    Comment by rusty — June 28, 2012 @ 8:51 am - June 28, 2012

  32. Thanks, Rusty, for doing that, but if I may predict:
    1) Kincaid isn’t significant enough for VTK
    2) And, I wasn’t the one who provided that information

    Ergo, VTK not satisfied with your response.

    BTW, prove me wrong, VTK, that PFLAG (PARENTS, FAMILIES and FRIENDS of Lesbians and Gays) even knows who Harry Hay is. Shouldn’t be hard, should it? I mean, you are the one who CAREFULLY chose the organizations that should have taken a stand against Hays. I guess simply because PFLAG has “gay” in their name, they should know who Hay is and, therefore, should be responsible to take a stand against him.

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 28, 2012 @ 2:00 pm - June 28, 2012

  33. V the K,

    I think this is a condmenation of Harry Hay in the Advocate.

    Oh, wait, that’s pointing out how he’s admired by the people of Silver Lake.

    I doubt you can call ‘Box Turtle Bulletin’ a major gay activist organization.

    I also find This on Box Turtle Bulletin. Seems pretty cleara celebration of his life.

    This made me sigh.

    Hay may have been wrong about almost everything. But in the end we do not insist that founders have the right answers, not even ask the right questions. We can honor them as founders and leave it at that.

    Let’s hear it for Moral Relativism! “It’s a shame the IRA blew up all those people, but where would we be without them!” “Che killed all those people, but we should look past that.” Gods.

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 28, 2012 @ 2:59 pm - June 28, 2012

  34. Oh and Vince?

    BTW, prove me wrong, VTK, that PFLAG (PARENTS, FAMILIES and FRIENDS of Lesbians and Gays) even knows who Harry Hay is.

    Done done and done.

    Nice try though.

    Pride President Calvin Gipson said :
    “At the public polling place, many people mentioned that it was difficult to choose who to vote for because so many of the nominees are deserving of this honor for their work. Harry Hay is a treasure because his struggle against gay oppression spans over 50 years. He truly has laid the foundation for many of the freedoms that we enjoy today.

    Many of us have relied on PFLAG for comfort and advice at our most tender moment of coming out to our family and friends. Our deepest respect is extended to Harry Hay, PFLAG and all grand marshal nominees.”

    Comment by The_Livewire — June 28, 2012 @ 3:02 pm - June 28, 2012

  35. I stand corrected, TLW. Thank you.

    Or, as I also like to say, words you don’t hear very often from GP commenters.

    Comment by Cinesnatch — June 28, 2012 @ 4:17 pm - June 28, 2012

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