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Does intolerance of gay Republicans cause some erstwhile homocons to change* their political views?

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Every now and again, you meet a gay ex-Republican who tells you that he left the GOP because of the party’s intolerance.

Events this past week, however, have made it increasingly apparent that such folks left not because of the GOP’s supposed intolerance, but because of that they experienced in the gay community.  They were simply tired of being ostracized — and otherwise marginalized — for their political views.
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*(or hide)

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FROM THE COMMENTS:  Redneck Fag answers the title question in the affirmative:  “It happened to me when I was living in San Francisco during the Reagan years but it didn’t last long. I soon saw the problem: wanting to conform and be popular . . . .”

That does seem to be the problem.

Comments

  1. It is truly sad that there are gay people who have decided to go back into the closet to hide from people that once welcomed them with open arms. This is a very sad commentary on the gay community.

  2. “Does intolerance of gay Republicans cause some erstwhile homocons to change their political views?”

    Yes. It happened to me when I was living in San Francisco during the Reagan years but it didn’t last long. I soon saw the problem: wanting to conform and be popular with the other fags.

    Fortunately I realized that what I was trying to conform to was not worth the sacrifice of my self-respect.

  4. The ONLY time that I have ever been actually physically-assaulted for my political views was in a gay sports bar in Philadelphia for supporting the Republican p.o.v. in what started as a discussion of some minor local political matter back when Reagan was President.

    Times haven’t changed….

  5. Although my reasons are complex, one of the reasons I’m not fully “out” is that aside from this blog and a few similar outposts online, I feel like there’s no place for me in a gay community dominated by left-wing activist types. What’s the point of embracing a “community” built around a politics of victimhood and collectivism? No thanks, I’ll just be myself and maybe someday I’ll be fortunate enough to have a relationship again, but it’s not likely to be someone I’ll meet at some gay event built around leftist identity-politics.

  8. I went through a similar phase as well. I was leaning right when I came out, and went to the far left in a short period of time. After more than a year I went back to the right when I realized I was only trying to conform.

  10. With all due respect, love, and humor, Dan….well, DUH. 🙂

    I mean, we got an example of that today with one of our biggest liberal apologists, Sandhorse.

    If Mr. Savage were actually here commenting in such a boorish way, I MIGHT be prone to say as much. However, knowing that someone with no moral foundation cannot be held to one would probably lead me to believe that admonishing them would be a waste of time. So I would likely just ignore him.

    Versus:

    Now, when someone here and now who should know better begins casting aspersions at a fellow human being, proverbial stranger (and their parents) well then, I am inclined to say something. I tend hold people who claim to be subject to a Christian moral ethic to a higher standard then the world at large.

    Comment by Sandhorse — June 27, 2012 @ 4:24 pm – June 27, 2012

    So no matter what liberals do, Sandhorse and his fellow liberal apologists won’t say or do anything, and no matter what conservatives/people with moral standards do, Sandhorse will be sitting there tsk-tsking and attacking them.

    So let’s see. Freedom to do whatever the hell you want without consequence or accountability, or constant harassment and nagging to live up to standards that the people doing the harassment and nagging would never dream of imposing on themselves?

    The answer to that one isn’t difficult. Dan Savage and Joe Jervis, both of whom are foul-mouthed promiscuous idiotic bigots, receive accolades, awards, and invitations to the White House.

    GOProud, gay conservatives, and gay Christians get spat upon, called traitors, compared to Nazis, have people posting things like this about them, and are told repeatedly to kill themselves.

    Control through abuse is horrific, but effective. And Sandhorse and his fellow liberal apologists have given their leaders carte blanche to abuse others, and the Obama Party encourages this abuse as a means of keeping a captive donation/voting bloc.

  11. My mother used to say, “Consider the source.” People who heap abuse on us because they can’t stand opposing opinions — or original thought — aren’t worth worrying about. Their disapproval is a badge of honor.

  12. My closest circle of friends represent nearly the full political spectrum. We all get along well just the same.

    Being of a more conservative bent, I do sometimes get ‘strange looks’. Most often I get asked how I can vote republican when ‘they are out to get me’. I basically have two responses to that.

    1) I don’t just vote on single issues.

    2) Any influence I, and other gay conservitives, can have on the party would be a good thing.

    That usually gets my point accross.

    Overall, I haven’t ever run into any ‘Flaming liberals’, with one exception. It was after Sunday service, a politically active couple (not members or church attendees) from the PADN were collecting signatures from democrats for something, I can’t recall exacly what. Anyhow, after I advised them I was a registered republican, it was obvious I was no ‘use’ to them and they just moved on to the next person. Not even a ‘Good Day’.

    Some time after that I was at a political rally and this same person was speaking. It hurt my ears (and I’m not talking about the decibel level). To hear them talk, anyone who doesn’t vote for a Democrat lacks intelligence.

    All in all it doesn’t really bother me much. If anything, it re-enforeced my political affiliation.

    Truth be told, if you’ve been ‘out in the world’ for any length of time, one should have a thicker skin.

  13. I’ll gladly talk to a liberal who seems open-minded and actually willing to listen. A foolish political position isn’t always an indication of character. Some liberals can be decent people, and some conservatives can be jerks. I don’t waste my time repudiating people who cling to idiotic ideologies, no matter who they are. It’s foolish to think that all gay conservatives need to waste their time condemning Dan Savage and other gay leftists. Like most American conservatives, we’d rather not waste our time. We have, you know, jobs and lives and all that.

    I’ve never been outright mocked by gay friends for being a gay conservative. Then again, I don’t necessarily care about being a part of the gay community. My sexuality defines who I date, not my political leanings or my social circle. I have a fairly diverse social circle that leans more conservative, and if I spend any time debating, it’s usually with the rare conservative — usually of the evangelical Christian stripe — who thinks that being gay and conservatism are incompatible.