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Chick-fil-A: Latest object of the left’s “two-minute” hate
Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day: response to left-wing bullying

As we’ve noted on more than one occasion, all too many on the gay left — as well as some of their straight allies — are ever ready to call opposition to gay marriage as hate speech. Their reaction to prominent defenders of traditional marriage, like Chick-fil-A’s president Dan Cathy, resembles that of their reaction to certain prominent Republicans, from Ronald Reagan in the 1980s to Newt Gingrich in the 1990s to George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin in the 2000s, to the Koch Brothers in the current decade.

Some have developed quite a habit of using harsh language to decry what they describe as “hate”.  Indeed, more often than not, their language seems far more hateful than that of the supposed haters.  Like the loyal citizens of George Orwell’s Oceania, they seem to delight in venting their negative emotions upon those deemed enemies of the party.  Yet, their venting does seem to last longer than two minutes.

Mr. Cathy’s unapologetic advocacy of traditional marriage made him — and his chicken chain — an appropriate target to which certain leftists could direct their venom.  This whole hullabaloo seemed more about the need of some to vent than about the merits (or lack thereof) of the target’s arguments.

No wonder that Glenn Reynolds, like a good number of social moderates and libertarians, doesn’t think the response to this venting, AKA Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day . . .

can be interpreted as opposition to gay marriage, so much as a response to bullying. But I do think that the bullying has probably tainted the gay-marriage brand, which is too bad. The gay-marriage argument is already winning — there’s no need to engage in Rahm Emanuel-style attacks, and doing so merely invites pushback. And, frankly, I’m happy to live in a country where people’s response to bullying is to push back.

It is those very “Rahm Emanuel-style attacks” that served as the tipping point for many social libertarians (including yours truly).  As blogging law professor William A. Jacobsen put it:

The threat to free speech represented by the actions of the liberal political leaderships in ChicagoBoston, San Francisco, D.C., New York, and Philadelphia should be the ultimate wake up call.

If given the chance, the liberal boycott movement will cross the line, and there will be many politicians willing to help them do it.

When the politicians started pandering not just by pontificating against Chick-fil-A, but primarily by attempting to prevent the chicken chain’s franchises from setting up shop in their jurisdictions, this reached a tipping point and united (as one reader put it) all the various branches of the conservative coalition.  Even gay people felt compelled to participate — in order to stand up to the politically correct bullying.  It wasn’t about the merits of Mr. Cathy’s arguments, but about his right to make them in a public forum.

When the politicians got involved, it crossed a line for a good number of libertarians, including even some gay marriage advocates.

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  1. http://matthewpaulturner.net/f1/5-reasons-why-the-church-failed-yesterday/

    Comment by rusty — August 5, 2012 @ 1:09 pm - August 5, 2012

  2. The left has whined for decades that they resent having other people lecture them about values. Did it never occur to them that no one wanted to hear them lecture about values either?

    Comment by V the K — August 5, 2012 @ 1:17 pm - August 5, 2012

  3. You’ve got the wrong link for the Reynolds quote. It takes us to a Michael Barone article, instead. The Reynolds quote can be found here.

    While I’m at it, I should also point out this Lileks piece about the oh-so-predictable media spin on this story.

    [The link which begins with "doesn't think" will take you to Glenn's post --Dan.]

    Comment by Kurt — August 5, 2012 @ 1:44 pm - August 5, 2012

  4. As a “two minute hate”, the Gay-Left’s Chicken-a-fillet kerfuffle has been a total fiasco. They picked the wrong target for the wrong reasons and advocated the wrong response to their grievances. …Typical. **snort**

    Right in line with “…never do an opponent a small injury.”

    Comment by Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — August 5, 2012 @ 2:21 pm - August 5, 2012

  5. You wrote, “Mr. Cathy’s unapologetic advocacy of traditional marriage made him — and his chicken chain — an appropriate target to which certain leftists could direct their venom.”

    It’s not just about marriage. Chick Fil-A gave lots of money to the American Family Association, Family Research Council, and Exodus International, whose agendas go way beyond issues of marriage.

    Comment by Tom1729 — August 5, 2012 @ 2:24 pm - August 5, 2012

  6. Do you know what, bigot Tom1729?

    No one cares, because you and your fellow Obama bigots are giving official and governmental sanction to the Nation of Islam while you are simultaneously denying Christians their rights under the First Amendment and bashing them.

    Yours is not a principled response. It’s the screaming of a childish and pathetic brat. And brats like yourself are only allowed to exist for as long as the tolerance of other people for your brattiness holds out.

    Done. Brat gays like yourself just blew it completely. You’re lazy, worthless, totalitarian BRATS who scream about “constitutional rights” while openly denying the constitutional rights of others.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 5, 2012 @ 2:46 pm - August 5, 2012

  7. Comment by rusty — August 5, 2012 @ 1:09 pm – August 5, 2012

    Guess what, rusty?

    No one cares about a desperate idiot who’s doing everything he can to spin for why he supports and endorses Christians being suppressed by law.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 5, 2012 @ 2:48 pm - August 5, 2012

  8. It’s not just about marriage. Chick Fil-A gave lots of money to the American Family Association, Family Research Council, and Exodus International, whose agendas go way beyond issues of marriage.

    And the SCOAMF has given ass loads of YOUR money to the Muslim Brotherhood. Still planning on voting for him and the jackasses that enabled this to happen?

    Comment by TGC — August 5, 2012 @ 2:51 pm - August 5, 2012

  9. Anything a lib wants is a “right,” and anything a lib opposes is “hate.”

    Quite simple, really.

    Comment by V the K — August 5, 2012 @ 3:05 pm - August 5, 2012

  10. Exactly, V the K.

    Look at how liberals act towards other people.

    Now, of course, rusty and his fellow gay bigots who supported this idiot won’t call that “hate”; in their tiny minds, they can be as offensive to whomever they want, and that person is just supposed to sit there and take it.

    Rusty really is the worst kind of exploiter. Gays and lesbians like him exist because people are tolerant and willing to give a little; in the minds of brats like rusty, that makes them marks to be exploited for their own purposes. That’s why rusty never makes an intelligent argument of his own; he just posts things to try to manipulate others and insist that you’re a “bad Christian” unless you give rusty and his fellow bigots exactly what they want.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 5, 2012 @ 3:32 pm - August 5, 2012

  11. 5 Reasons Why the Church Failed Yesterday : MATTHEW PAUL TURNER

    People felt hate and we ignored that. At the end of the day, regardless of whether or not your Christian understanding of scripture harbors hate or not, a large group of people felt hated. Again, we can debate this point all day long, but that does not change the fact that people felt hatred because of what happened yesterday. Whether or not hate actually existed is not the point, people felt hated.

    So apparently, whenever there’s a mass protest against something, anyone who is indirectly affected by it or is opposed to it should have their feelings automatically pre-validated by those that are doing the protesting and any possible action automatically taken into consideration before engaging in such protest.

    By extension, I then should feel personally hurt anytime someone buys an album or download of a rap song that contains antigay lyrics.

    Cue Feelings.

    Comment by RSG — August 5, 2012 @ 4:00 pm - August 5, 2012

  12. Chick Fil-A gave lots of money to the American Family Association, Family Research Council, and Exodus International

    Which is THEIR RIGHT.

    Likewise, you have the right to protest on your own time, or engage in consumer of them- but NOT the right to shut them down VIA GOVERNMENT. It’s called the “first amendment”, Tom – look into it. In something called the “Constitution of the United States of America”, Tom – look into that as well.

    Finally – Where are the Gay Left’s protests against Nation of Islam restaurants? Or against Mayor Emanuel, who welcomes the gay-hating Nation of Islam to Chicago?

    Supporting Chick-Fil-A against bullies who want government to block their restaurants from existing is indeed about free speech, and standing up to politically-correct bullying… and as well, about standing up to rank hypocrisy.

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 5, 2012 @ 4:36 pm - August 5, 2012

  13. aargh, ‘consumer boycotts’

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — August 5, 2012 @ 4:36 pm - August 5, 2012

  14. I have no gripe with “principled” gays boycotting anybody and everybody who irks them. I understand why they would take the time and effort to pass out leaflets explaining their grievances and encouraging others to join in the boycott. I totally understand that the purpose of boycotting is to choke off the revenue and teach the “offending” party a terrible lesson. They are like striking union workers shutting down production and forcing an accommodation.

    But when the liberals pick up a theme and it goes viral and everyone is being bullied into obeying the politically correct line de jour, there is a natural tendency for an equal and opposite reaction to emerge.

    Each advocate of gay marriage, gay or straight, has to decide for himself if Cathy’s remarks are a shot across the bow and whether he must take up arms in response.

    But those who support Chick-fil-A are not necessarily getting involved beyond expressing how much stupidity they find in the whole MSM liberal piety dance and P. C. bullying excise.

    So, it seems to me, one side is all girded up with principled outrage and the other side is telling them get back on their mules and return to their basements and stew in their own juices.

    While nothing is so strong as an idea whose time has come, it is also true that nothing is so weak as trying to hector a crowd that has decided to send you and your silly-azz piety rage to the locker room.

    Just what the anti-Cathy people are set upon is a mystery to me. It appears that they have made royal fools of themselves. And like the drive-though clown who was reduced to a pile of steaming, seething crap by a stoic Rachael who did not back off of her dignity and kindness, many gays have managed to cover themselves with their own stink in this affair. It appears that they just do not get it.

    Bruce certainly made the non-issue concerning Chick-fil-A in his parody clip. Now the other team is up to bat. Let’s see the harm and damage Chick-fil-A has done to gays.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 5, 2012 @ 4:37 pm - August 5, 2012

  15. #2: “The left has whined for decades that they resent having other people lecture them about values. Did it never occur to them that no one wanted to hear them lecture about values either?”

    #9: “Anything a lib wants is a ‘right,’ and anything a lib opposes is ‘hate.’ Quite simple, really.”

    You’re batting 1000 today, V the K. Brevity & brilliance, as always.

    Comment by Sean A — August 5, 2012 @ 5:01 pm - August 5, 2012

  16. I beg to differ with G Reynolds assessment. Without collusion amongst the courts officers as in Massachusetts and California, gay marriage fails. In Europe, it fails due to replicable, empirical data. Do not expect the states to accept any sham decision made by the US Supreme Court.

    Gay ‘marriage’ not a right, prohibiting gay adoption not ‘discrimination’: European Court of Human Rights (REJECTION OF THE SOCIAL ACTIVISM OF THE APAs/ABA AND THE SWEDISH MODEL IN THE INTEREST OF CHILDREN)

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-marriage-not-a-right-prohibiting-gay-adoption-not-discrimination-europe#

    Russians overwhelmingly endorse ‘gay propaganda’ ban

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/russians-overwhelmingly-endorse-gay-propaganda-ban?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_campaign=448adc7414-LifeSiteNews_com_Canada_Headlines_04_19_2012&utm_medium=email#

    Comment by rjligier — August 5, 2012 @ 6:18 pm - August 5, 2012

  17. Anonymous Chick-fil-A insiders are saying the company’s owners have been so moved by the outpouring of appreciation on Wednesday that they are preparing a multimedia PR blitz to express their heartfelt thanks to all those who came to stand up proudly for God’s Word, the sanctity of straight marriage & divorce, and big chicken. The company wants everyone to know that those great Americans and the owners are all of one mind and stand together in solidarity. The PR blitz is being built around the slogan: At Chick-fil-A, hicks-r-us.

    Comment by Richard R — August 5, 2012 @ 7:07 pm - August 5, 2012

  18. Anonymous GLBT activist insiders are saying the organization has been so moved by the outpouring of appreciation on the Friday Same-Sex Kiss In that they are preparing a multimedia PR blitz to express their heartfelt thanks to all those who came to stand up proudly for whatever Same-Sex Kiss In symbolizes, the sanctity of gay marriage & divorce, and big glitter. The GLBT activists want everyone to know that those great Americans and their acolytes of gay rights are all of one mind and stand together in solidarity. The PR blitz is being built around the slogan: At GLBT, licks-r-us.

    Comment by heliotrope — August 5, 2012 @ 7:48 pm - August 5, 2012

  19. i would like to know just where the gay conservative groups are with their web ads exposing this crap with the support of the mb .. why are they so gd silent? there is so much that can and should be brought out in the open, what do they do, go to conventions and rub elbows and take photo ops?

    Comment by formerly left leaning lesbian — August 5, 2012 @ 7:52 pm - August 5, 2012

  20. #16 And according to the liberals, we’re supposed to be more like Europe.

    Comment by TGC — August 5, 2012 @ 8:23 pm - August 5, 2012

  21. @17: Richard R, please go straight to hell you childish bastard.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — August 5, 2012 @ 11:14 pm - August 5, 2012

  22. Didn’t Richard R once claim that leftists were way more funny and creative than conservatives?

    Not seeing it.

    Comment by V the K — August 6, 2012 @ 7:27 am - August 6, 2012

  23. Agreed V, Now Heliotrope’s version did make me laugh out loud.

    Both for the tagline and for the ‘overwhelming support’. I think I wasn’t quite whelmed by the turnout.

    Comment by The_Livewire — August 6, 2012 @ 7:43 am - August 6, 2012

  24. The problem with the left is they can´t or won´t distinguish between opinion and hate speech. For the, ALL OPIONS TO THE CONTRARY is HATE SPEECH. Isn´t this what the marxists said druing and after the civil war in Russia? Isn´t this how the Nazis gained gained power by bullying their opponents? If there wan´t the outpouring of support for the First Amendment at Chick fil A. We might have been going down the road that Moscow and Berlin once trod.

    Comment by Roberto — August 6, 2012 @ 12:49 pm - August 6, 2012

  25. Bastiat Fan,

    @17: Richard R, please go straight to hell you childish bastard.

    Since I’m not a person who cries “hate!” in response to every utterance from the opposition, I’ll assume you meant your comment in the most loving possible way.

    Comment by Richard R — August 6, 2012 @ 2:41 pm - August 6, 2012

  26. Richard R: frankly you can take it any way you want. And I imagine you do.

    Comment by Bastiat Fan — August 8, 2012 @ 1:55 am - August 8, 2012

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  35. The Orwellian analogy is a good one. Today I was thinking how Romney, now the target of all these attacks from the left from taking Death Squad money to build his fortune to bullying a gay kid in the 1960s, is just the newest replacement as the object of the 2 minutes hate. 4 years ago all I could see was the one goal of personally destroying Palin, and now it’s Romney. Very sad how the left no longer has any interest in debating policy.

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  38. …what do they do, go to conventions and rub elbows and take photo ops?

    Basically, yes. The gay left has held grassroots organizing conferences and seminars for decades now. Much of the progress as well as the increasing off-the-rails polemical behavior in the larger LGBTQXYZ movement derives from much of this grassroots organizing over the years. (Lord knows it’s not due to the various “annual dinners” held by one notable national organization.)

    Gay conservatives? Well, if it’s not happening at a Ritz-Carlton somewhere and it doesn’t involve talking about what already happened instead of what could happen, it’s just not worth doing or going to.

    Comment by RSG — August 10, 2012 @ 1:00 am - August 10, 2012

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  40. I am not gay. I don’t believe that the name Marriage should be used for anything except 1 man 1woman but I do believe that is about the limit of society’s involvement in personal activity. I feel that you should be able to enter into any situation that is O.K. between consenting adults and have the same rights, such as home ownership,hospital visits with your partners/partners ( polyamory) and taxes. This is none of my business and I cannot see how our semi-facists can come into your home or lives and bother you.
    I heard a gay woman say that conservative gay was an oxymoron, I replied “being gay doesn’t mean being stupid”,pissed her off.
    Stand up for freedom, and stand up for responsibility.

    Comment by V — August 12, 2012 @ 6:01 pm - August 12, 2012

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